My Wrestlemania 21 Fantasy

[redoneja]

Well, Wrestlmania is juat around the corner and every year I always share my "fantasies" for WM with my friends. So here's what I wish would happen on a match by match basis(note that I am only using matches that are already announced or most likely to happen):

Match- Trish Stratus v Christy Hemme
Christy is too green, I want Trish to rip off her top and deliver a Chick Kick for the win.

Match- Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Although my heart goes to Christian(PUSH HIM VINCE!!) I want Edge to pull out the win by the skin of his teeth.

Match- US Championship Orlando Jones v Booker T
I like both these guys and this match would be the most prominent match in recent memory involving two African-American singles stars. I think that Booker has been unfairly cast to the side on Smackdown, and I would like to see him capture the title.

Match- Rey Mysterio v Eddie Guerrero
The only match that really stands out to me from WCW as a technical classic is Rey Mysterio v Eddie Guerrero at Halloween Havoc 1997. I expect no less of this match. I don't have a big favorite in this match but I guess I'd like to see Eddie hit the Frog Splash for the win

Match- Randy Orton v The Undertaker
12-0. Like Jake Roberts said, " That means alot to me." The Undertaker to me is Wrestlemania for this generation like Hogan was Wrestlemania for the last. Orton has plenty of time to make an impact, he'll turn 25 two days before Wrestlemania. Call me old-school, but I think legacies should be made after years of wrestling. So as far as this match goes- Taker hits the Tombstone for the 1-2-3.

Match- Kurt Angle v Shawn Michaels
This match is going to be the Gotch v Hackenschmidt of our time. Two of the three greatest WRESTLERS of the last ten years(the other being Bret Hart) will be going at it in the ring. As much as I like Michaels, I believe he is in the twilight of his career and should take the job for Angle, much like Bret and Taker did for Michaels in the late 90's(not that either one was in their twilight at the time). I would like to see Michaels tap out for the first time(that I can recall) since Survivor Series 1992(to Bret Hart).

Match- WWE Championship JBL v John Cena
Quite Simple. Cena doesn't have it right now. JBL cleanly wins. In my opinion Angle should be the champion although I do believe JBL is doing a decent job.

Match- Sumo Match Akebono v Big Show
Who cares? I want Wrestlemania not SumoWrestlemania. Big Show has NEVER won at Wrestlemania. The largest wrestler in 20 years is 0-5 at WM! HE NEEDS TO WIN MORE THAN MAE YOUNG NEEDS A RESPIRATOR!

Match- World Heavyweight Championship Triple H v Batista
Batista's time will come but not now. His technique needs to be a little more polished. I want Triple H to win clean.

Epilouge
Triple H is in the ring, celebrating after a hard-fought victory over Batista. Suddenly, Edge's music hits, Edge comes out and demands his title match right there! After a relativley short match, Edge hits the spear and 1-2-3 we have a new World Heavyweight Champion. As Edge is celebrating Jericho comes out and stands at the head of the ramp and stares him down.

:yes: :drool: :yes:

[Marcyo]

JS, we're waiting for your reply.

[M. Banana]

Orton's gonna win it bitch.

[Marcyo]

Yeah, same for batista.

[Rammsteinmad]

And why would Jericho stare down Edge? It's not like he's a potential Main eventer is it?

[Marcyo]

LOL, Ruein balanced-repped me on the first post i made. Talk about a waste of time.

[The Show Off]

the 1-2-3.
Match- Kurt Angle v Shawn Michaels
This match is going to be the Gotch v Hackenschmidt of our time. Two of the three greatest WRESTLERS of the last ten years(the other being Bret Hart) will be going at it in the ring. As much as I like Michaels, I believe he is in the twilight of his career and should take the job for Angle, much like Bret and Taker did for Michaels in the late 90's(not that either one was in their twilight at the time). I would like to see Michaels tap out for the first time(that I can recall) since Survivor Series 1992(to Bret Hart).


Shawn Michaels tapped out at Backlash '04.

[Justdisturbed]

i like the ending - edge new champ - i think he has put in the years and deserves to hold the world title since his last single champ reign was stripped from him and i always thought jericho is main event class

[Kane Knight]

So there he was, in the nightie I bought him last year for our anniversary.

"Making his way to the ring..."

[The Overdrive]

If anyone should win that Money In The Bank match it's CLB. Michaels shoulde beat Angle (even though it's obvious Kurt's gonna win) then CLB and Michaels feud and feud right up untill Summer Slam setting up a ladder match between HBK and him. Shawn beats CLB setting up a Triple Threat match for the World Title. Yes, CLB finally uses his number one contender's ticket in September at Unforgiven, and since HBK beat CLB Bischoff says that HBK will be the third man in the title match. Now, you COULD have Batistia vs. Shawn vs. CLB, but I'd much rather see Edge vs. Shawn vs. CLB. CLB wins the title finally and loses it to Orton or Jericho at Wrestle Mania 22 in the RAW Main Event.

Thats just how I'd do things.

[TerranRich]

Man, they have so much potential for the Money in the Bank ladder match and the 12-month title-challenge contract. It's a very original and good idea, and I am PRAYING that WWE utilizes the right way. I like the idea of Edge winning the title after Batista loses to HHH. That is the ONLY way I'd be happy if Batista lost. Otherwise, I won't be happy with HHH retaining.

[redoneja]

Thanks for reminding me about Michaels tapping at Backlash 04 and I apologize for the error. I think that the only way the WWE will utilize the Money in the Bank match properly is if the winner(hopefully Edge, but I'd settle for Jericho) uses his clause to create some sort of controversy

[Anybody Thrilla]

Orlando Jordan. Not Jones. That 7 Up guy can fuck the fuck off.

[redoneja]

no no I meant Orlando Jones :shifty: just you wait and see

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well here's how I see the card shaping up:

Main Card:
-Triple H vs. Batista
-John Bradshaw Layfield vs. John Cena
-Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels
-The Undertaker vs. Randy Orton
-Money in the Bank Ladder Match: Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit vs. Edge vs. Christian vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Kane
-Sumo Match: The Big Show vs. Akebono
-Orlando Jordan vs. Booker T
-Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio
-Trish Startus vs. Christy Hemme
-Chavo Guerrero vs. Paul London

Heat:
-William Regal & Tajiri vs. Chris Masters & Gene Snitsky
-Victoria vs. Molly Holly
-No DQ: Mark Jindrak vs. Luther Reigns
-The Basham Brothers vs. Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas

There probably won't be tha many matches on the Heat card, but I really think they should start making the Mania pre-shows worth something. I'd include all the Heat matches in the WrestleMania 21 DVD. 4 extra matches would make each DVD more appealing to buy, IMO.

I'd hope the matches turn out something like this:

Triple H vs. Batista
Give Batista a clean victory here. Maybe even a squash victory if Triple H really wants to make Batista look good. Don't tell me 20 minutes of Batista whipping Triple H's ass wouldn't be entertaining.

I can see Batista losing, but ONLY if Randy Orton or the winner of the Money in the Bank Ladder Match costs him the match. I can really see a strong version of Evolution taking form after WrestleMania, with Triple H, Ric Flair, Randy Orton & Charlie Haas as its members.

I can see Batista winning via disqualification when the MOTB Ladder Match winner interferes. The MOTBLM winner then cashes in his title shot, and pins the Batista-beaten Triple H for the 1-2-3 to become the new World Heavyweight Championship.

I think I remain in favour of Batista going over strong, though.

JBL vs. Cena
Many people disagree with this, but I think Cena may not be ready to be the top face of the company. People say that if JBL wins, SmackDown! is finished, but if something like Cena losing turns them away, they may aswell not be fans because everyone loses sometime. Storyline-wise, JBL would have everything in the book lined up to try and stop Cena from taking his title. If the WWE give two craps about the JBL character, they'd at leats give him the dignity to have Cena beat him by disqualification at the most.

I can see Cena getting ambushed in the back by The Basham Brothers with tyre-irons, with them signalling out his knee and skull. Cena still wanting to fight actually enters the match and holds his own, even kicking out at the Clothesline from Hell at one point. Cena hoists JBL up for the F-U, but Orlando Jordan is in with a tyre-iron and hits Cena in the knee. He then gives Cena one over the skull. The referee is about to ring the bell for the DQ, but Cena tells him he wants to fight. OJ then whips Cena's ass, and JBL covers, but the referee doesn't count. JBL then forces the referee to count the pin, but Cena gets out a two-count. JBL then kicks Cena's ass some more, but Cena makes a comeback and actually hits the F-U on JBL. In come The Basham Brothers but Cena takes them out easily. OJ goes to hit Cena, but Cena dodges and hits the Killswitch on Jordan. Another F-U on the way for JBL, when all of a sudden out comes Cena's mother (who I can actually see JBL bringing into the storyline as a characer for some reason) begins to strip for the crowd so she can get some money from Layfield. Cena then forces her to leave ashamed she would go so low for JBL. BAM! Tyre-iron to the crotch of Cena by JBL. WHAM! Clothesline from Hell. 1-2-3! JBL retains.

If the casual fans who apparently "love" Cena don't stick with him through a time when he was obviously screwed out of the belt, yet still put on a great match even though he was "injured" earlier that night, then I realy don't think Cena deserves to be the mega-face the WWE puts over JBL.

I love Cena as the person and the wrestler, but his character as always been going for a title for at least a year. He defeated The Big Show for the US Title, then he got stripped of the belt, won it from Booker T, lost it to Carlito, won it back, lost it to OJ. Now it looks like he's going to win the WWE Championship from JBL. Now I can see why people think it would be the best move to hav Cena win the belt, and I admit to having no knowledge of the wrestling business' workings at all, but I think if Cena is all that then he should be able to carry a feud without a title needing to be involved, or to be put over all the time.

The Rock lost so much in his career, yet he was still able to sell tickets. The Rock didn't win at WrestleMania 2000, and granted he had been WWE Champion before, and I admit to not being a wrestling fan at that time, but I think it would have made the crowd happier if The Rock had won the title from Triple H right then and there.

I personally believe that Cena shouldn't need the WWE Championship to be over with the fans. If he does, well then maybe he isn't the right pick for the "saviour" of the WWE afterall.

JBL is my hopeful winner of this match, and for him to drop the WWE Championship at Judgment Day to Rey Mysterio, or for him to hold onto the belt until The Great American Bash where he loses the belt to a returning John Cena who beats in a Texas Bullrope Match.

Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels
Angle goes over. 'Nuff said. I like HBK, but too much good comes out of Angle winning. SmackDown! gets one-up on RAW. The people Angle have put over (Cena, etc.) look even more golden now. Most importantly, Angle solidifies his spot in the WWE, and makes himself into a legend, in my book. It could be match of the night, maybe even the best WrestleMania match ever. And it definately could be the greatest WrestleMania moment of all time when Angle catches the Sweet Chin Music, sinches in an Ankle Lock, then drops to the mat in an Anchor Lock as HBK has nowhere to go and taps out. I am really excited about this match.

Legend vs. Legend Killer
I personally think Randy Orton needs to go over here. I think this will be a great match, and will be a WrestleMania moment, but I'm not too excied about this one, and have lost the urge to talk about it.

Actually I've lost the urge to talk about anything now, but this is a great card, and it could be the greatest Mania ever in my eyes (looking at this positivly). Well, it probably won't be, but if everyone puts in 100% and pours their souls into this card, I don't think the results will matter, because the performances will be so damn good. Give each match 20 minutes, and in the case of matches like The Big Show vs. Akebono and Trish Stratus vs. Christy Hemme where there is no need for 20 minutes, feed their extra time to Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels and the Money in the Bank Ladder Match respectively.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is how my card would go. I'll put the approximate time of each match. I allowed 20 minutes for promos, etc.

WrestleMania- Heat
Singles Match
Mark Jindrak vs. Rene Dupree
Winner: Mark Jindrak via pinfall. (10 mins)

Tag Team Match
Luther Reigns & Heidenreich vs. Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas
Winner: Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas via submission. (15 mins)

Singles Match
Booker T vs. Kenzo Suzuki
Winner: Booker T via pinfall. (10 mins)

Special Guest Referee: Val Venis
Molly Holly vs. Victoria
Winner: Victoria via pinfall. (10 mins)

WrestleMania 21- Main Card
Fatal Fourway Tag Team Elimination Match for the World Tag Team Championship
William Regal & Tajiri vs. Maven & Simon Dean vs. Rhyno & Val Venis vs. La Resistance
Winners: Rhyno & Val Venis via pinfall. (15 mins)

WWE United States Championship
Orlando Jordan vs. Marty Janetty
Winner: Marty Janetty via pinfall. (15 mins)

WWE Women’s Championship
Trish Stratus vs. Christy Hemme
Winner: Trish Stratus via pinfall. (10 mins)

Tag Team Match
Scotty 2 Hotty & Funaki vs. Billy Kidman & Akio
Winners: Scotty 2 Hotty & Funaki via pinfall. (10 mins)

WWE Cruiserweight Championship
Chavo Guerrero vs. Paul London
Winner: Paul London via pinfall. (20 mins)

Sumo Match
The Big Show vs. Akebono
Winner: The Big Show. (10 mins)

Winner Gets to Choose New Partner
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio
Winner: Eddie Guerrero via pinfall. (20 mins)

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit vs. Kane vs. Edge vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Christian
Winner: Christian. This match is also for the WWE Intercontinental Championship. (30 mins)

Interpromotional Match
The Undertaker vs. Randy Orton
Winner: Randy Orton via pinfall. (20 mins)

Interpromotional Match
Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels
Winner: Kurt Angle via submission. (30 mins)

WWE Championship
John Bradshaw Layfield vs. John Cena
Winner: John Bradshaw Layfield via pinfall. (20 mins)

World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H vs. Batista
Winner: Batista via pinfall. (20 mins)

So when it's all said and done, here is how the title scene would look on each brand:

World Heavyweight Champion: Batista
World Tag Team Champion: Val Venis & Rhyno
WWE Intercontinental Champion: Christian
WWE Women’s Champions: Trish Stratus

WWE Champion: John Bradshaw Layfield
WWE Tag Team Championship: Eddie Guerrero & ?????
WWE United States Championship: Marty Janetty
WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Paul London

[The CyNick]

The extra matches pretty much depends on how long the show is going to be.

I haven't heard a definate answer, but I belive they are going less than 4 hours, instead of 4 hours + like they did for Mania 20.

If thats the case, then the card is just about set. Mysterio-Eddie hasn't been made official, but it looks like it will be. That would put them at 8 matches plus the Piper's Pit deal and th HOF segment. I would say at most, they could only add one more match or at the very most 2 in order to give everything sufficient time.

Its funny to me that they took the US title off Cena, and still havem't done anything with OJ in terms of a match for program. Now it seems even more rediculous that they took the title off Cena. Anyway, it would seem logical to do some type of 6 man match with OJ and the Bashams against say Book and maybe Holly and Haas, or possibly the Dudleys (Table Match).

The other possibility is Chavo-London for the CW title. Its already set up (London won a #1 contenders match, and Chavo screwed him out of the title last month). But Chavo is in the middle of the Mysterio-Eddie storyline, and they made a point fo sayin London gets a title shot "somewhere down the road" instead of just saying it would happen at Mania. That tells me the match wont happen at Mania.

The other programs like Heidenreich-Booker and Reigns-Jindrak have been blown off on TV with the babyface win. So I cant see those goin at Mania either. The rest of the guys on Velocity, who are not on SD, likely wont get a match becxause they are never on TV, unless its in some type of Battle Royal or something.

On RAW there are even less things going on. Snitsky-Benjamin seems to be over, so he's got nothing. Everyone else who gets regular TV time on RAW is accounted for. I wouldn't expect guys like Val Venis to be on the card when they are hardly on TV. Mania should look like a card that is hard to get on, not one that everyone gets to participate in.

The only match I could see being adding on the RAW side is a possible tag team match. I could see them doing Regal/Tajiri vs La Res (maybe with a stip this is La Res' last shot at the titles) only to have Eguene do a run in and help out the champs.

As for the results, Cena and Batista both HAVE to win. Ive said it a bunch of times, but anyone who doubts Cena really needs to watch SD. He's over, and we've seen what happens to guys like Jericho, RVD and so on, when the fans get behind someone only to have them fall short. Cena and Batista both need the big win in order to establish themselves as the top guys in the company. Its simple as that.

In terms of the layout of the matches. My guess is that HHH will want to do a straight up wrestling match and just put Dave over. The problem will be he'll want to go like20-25 minutes, and that wont make Dave look like a monster and could really expose him. If I was booking, I would do a 6 minute squash, but that will NEVER happen.

With Cena, I think they should throw everything out there to make it seem like he's going to lose. I would do a couple of ref bumps, bring out the Bashams and OJ, and have Cena keep kicking out of near falls. Finally Cena would win. Afterwards they could set up the rematch and have JBL talk about how the Cabinet failed him, and he could beat Cena one on one, which of course he wouldn't. Anyway, I just think they need to make Cena fight all the odds and overcome them. It'll probably tell the fans that Cena is the guy to get behind.

Rest of the top matches; I would of course have Orton go over Taker, and I think I would put Angle over HBK. Maybe with help from Jannetty. Send HBK to SD, or send Marty to RAW, and have them work a program.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree with a lot you said, but I still stand by my original opinion that Cena doesn't need to win. Batista I agree with, but I think Cena can take a loss, especially to JBL (who the fans are seeing as unbeatable for the fact he doesn't play the same game). Cena can win the title from JBL any night of the week and make it look like win of the century.

Hell, I can see them having Cena win the title at a house show, then playing a video before the SmackDown! intro showing the match. It might boost WWELive! event attendence, and it might wake the fans up to see Cena walk straight into the show as WWE Champion.

Anyway, it's not that I don't see the point of Cena winning, I just don't think losing and winning another night would hurt Cena as much as everyone says it would.

Orlando Jordan needs to be added to the card. He's the WWE United States Champion, and needs to at least wrestle on Heat. It seems Booker T and Heidenreich might be becomming a tag team in the near future (God I hope not), so maybe some kind of six-man involving Orlando Jordan & The Bashams against Booker T, Heidenreich & Marty Janetty will take place? I think Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas would be better partnersfor Booker, though.

Why not make that six-man for the United States Championship and WWE Tag Team Championship? The Bashams beat Eddie & Rey next week on SmackDown!, when Eddie walks out on Rey. Later on, Booker T beats OJ via disqualification when The Bashams run-in and beat him down. Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas save the day, and we pretty much have the match staring in front of us. The winning side gets all the titles.

As for who wins, I'd give it to The Cabinet throug some shifty heel work, and then at Judgment Day we have a blowoff to the feuds with OJ defending against Booker T (or JBL defending if Cena beats him at Mania, since I can see JBL demanding OJ presents him with the US Title if he loses) and The Bashams facing off against Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas. Actually, they sound like potential SmackDown! after Mania matches.

I would also have a squash match with Batista kicking Triple H's ass, but I doubt it will happen. It would be nice, and would solidify Batista as the bearer of a new era, but it won't happen. Maybe have Vince declare that a draft will take place on RAW in two weeks, and have the show finish with Cena staring down Batista. If it were up to me, Cena would limp out after being screwed out of the title earlier, stare down Batista and mouth "It could be you.", after he promised to win a World Championship very soon while he was getting patched up in the trainer's room.

In the draft I'd have John Cena, The Undertaker, Charlie Haas, Hardcore Holly & Heidenreich head over to RAW. Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Muhammad Hassan & Kane head over to SmackDown!. Vince McMahon then rules (They can do this via the titantron if Vince McMahon doesn't feel comfortable showing up on-screen in his current state. Or better yet, have Shane McMahon come on-screen and announce that due to his father's absense, he is now the Chairman of the WWE.) that an female trainded or is currently training to wrestle can head over to RAW. Miss Jackie, Dawn Marie & Michelle McCool head over to RAW, SD! gets Stacy Keibler as compensation. Any cruiserweights are moved over to SD!. The Hurricane, Tajiri (vacating the World Tag Team Championship), Simon Dean, Maven, Steven Richards & Matt Hardy (say the last three are 220lbs) join the SmackDown! roster. Luther Reigns is awarded to RAW for their loses.

[redoneja]

I agree with Alienoid that John Cena is not ready to win the big one. I somewhat disagree that Batista should beat HHH. Unless Batista squashes HHH in 3 minutes then HHH should retain, although not cleanly. I like the idea of the Money in the Bank winner challenging HHH that night and winning the championship that night. WWE NEEDS to do something to create controversy and excitement. I just watched the last TNA PPV(Destination-X) and I think that TNA is doing a tremendous job in terms of match quality as far as the X-Division goes. All TNA needs is a big name star(ahem, The Rock, Brock Lesnar, or even Goldberg) to come in and take the title off Jarret and I believe TNA will only then become a threat to WWE supremacy. WWE needs to realize that the young guys in TNA are serious and that the two current brands(especially Smackdown) needs to evolve(no pun intended).

[Marcyo]

I agree with Alienoid that John Cena is not ready to win the big one. I somewhat disagree that Batista should beat HHH.

I don't know. If the two major title matches are won by heels, it will somewhat ruin the show. You know the average fan will pay to see Batista and Cena win, not come up short because the other cheated or whatever else.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I completely agree with the assessment that two heel wins could potentially rui nthe show, but I think one heel win wouldn't be too disasterous.

I can see Cena having the most entertaining match of his career with JBL, just because of the gimmick they could run with the match. Cena can win the match five times, but is continuously screwed out of the title by The Cabinet, etc. He is attacked earlier in the night by The Basham Brothers with crowbars, and he'll go on to give it 100% and just come up short. You can even have the referee go to DQ JBL when he intentially tries to get himself disqualified when The Cabinet comes in, in front of the referee to attack Cena. Cena refuses to let JBL escape with only a DQ loss and asks the referee to keep this going.

So you now have JBL vs. Cena in a match where Cena can get DQ'd, but Layfield, Orlando Jordan & The Basham Brothers can't. Then Cena works the match all battered and bruised and acing injured, and you have yourselves a classic underdog match.