Triple H's Long Promos

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Watching Triple H's promo on Raw, I got to thinking...

People have complained about how his long promos are 'the same every week' or 'hogging air time' but there is a reason that he's allowed to talk for so long. And it ain't because he's married to the boss' daughter.

It's because he is that damn good.

There are very few people who can deliver such well memorised/improvised promos. The way he is so natural gives whatever he is saying instant credibility and, even though some of you might not like to admit it, he draws you into what he is saying.

Triple H, in my mind, immediately puts people over as soon as he mentions them in his promos. The way he's been booked since he was given the World Title means that if you're hanging with him, you're doing something right, and the fans appreciate that. Cutting a 20 minute promo on Batista every week does nothing but good if you ask me.

To anyone who says that half his air time should go to someone like Hassan, think about it... Triple H is the one about to headline the biggest PPV of the year, and he's damn good at talking for a long time, so why not let him get on with it?

It makes sense to me.

[Stickman]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[Corkscrewed]

!!!!!!

[Innovator]

His promo was good tonight...but I did fear the worst when he pulled the chair out to sit.

[John la Rock]

ya I agree. HHH is no Rock but he can cut one hell of a promo

[Shadow]

He might be good at promo work but...he's got a formula that he sticks to that bores most of us. Yeah, he's good at getting people over in his promos but it's just gotton so old. He's been the Heavyweight champion for so long, people are sick of him.

I'm tired and stoned. LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!

[SuperSlim]

HHH can deliver and deliver well. Sometimes I'm against the time he takes to say it all but in the end it's all worth it cause it actually makes everything better.

[Mayo]

Hard to tell if this was one of your old "real wrestling stories" that you used to do back in the day :lol:

Yeah I realy don't mind Trips' mic work at any time, although it does kind of sound the same much of the time, he does the job and to the casual fan I think he seems pretty legit. Casual fans though will be bored that he's always champ though and hence they may change the channel.

[Esoteric]

yeah he is pretty good on the mic....but god the raw formula usually is like 4 matches and a triple h monolgue for the longest..... i think the wwe should just give him like an hour long show on tuesday where he can talk maybe he can do hamlet. im getting tired of long ass promos instead of wrestling

[DaveWadding]

He might be good at promo work but...he's got a formula that he sticks to that bores most of us. Yeah, he's good at getting people over in his promos but it's just gotton so old. He's been the Heavyweight champion for so long, people are sick of him.

I'm tired and stoned. LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!
Did you service Master Hardy orally today?

[Shadow]

Did you service Master Hardy orally today?

No. I do that on Fridays anyways.

[Kane Knight]

In all seriousness, people can preach how good he is. I haven't seen a full Triple H promo in years, because 2 minutes in, I'm zapping him.

He gets long promos not because he's thast good, but because he failed speech class and it takes him 10 minutes to get a single thought out.

Sorry, too drained to take Jabba with his usual grain of salt.

[PullMyFinger]

I don't think anyone is questioning his talent on the mic or wrestling. People are just sick of seeing him do the same shit week in and week out. They want some new fresh face, compared to seeing him all the time.

[VJW]

It's just that he does it over and over again. Fans don't hate him because what he says pisses him off, they hate him because he's selfish. I'm convinced that he thinks that a good heel is either.

[Kane Knight]

I don't think anyone is questioning his talent on the mic or wrestling. People are just sick of seeing him do the same shit week in and week out. They want some new fresh face, compared to seeing him all the time.
If that's true, then why was the Rock so over, with the same four lines every week?

You know, I appreciate JBL's mic work, hate him or not. He's got skill. I pay attention to him. Triple H is a human piss break.

[VJW]

Triple H is a human piss break.

Hm, I guess everybody has their purpose.

[Kane Knight]

Hm, I guess everybody has their purpose.
Too bad there are so many of them in the WWE./

[I-Hate-You]

I agree with KK. I haven't seen a full Triple H promo in years. I'll see him on, listen to him for a second and then walk out of the room and miss the rest. During his promo tonight, I watched a little, to the point where the lights dimmed, and then went outside to jog.

[Funky Fly]

Just about any other person with good mic skills in the WWE could have given that same promo in half to 3/4 of the time HHH spent. Not that the promo was bad, because it was great (unlike RKO's tonight), it's just that it took way too long.

[BatistaBomb]

the basic triple h promo is i am the gameuh and i am that damn gooduh and at wrestlemania i'm gonna kickuh batistas assuh because i am the greatest wrestler of all timeuh

[Kane Knight]

I agree with KK. I haven't seen a full Triple H promo in years. I'll see him on, listen to him for a second and then walk out of the room and miss the rest. During his promo tonight, I watched a little, to the point where the lights dimmed, and then went outside to jog.
And when you came back, he was still going strong...

This isn't good mic skills.

Hell, Howard Stern can get conservatives to listen in so they can bitch about him round the water cooler. Same with Rush and the Dems. They CAPTIVATE an audience that hates them.

Triple H can't captivate people. Nobody can when they're spending twice the time needed to say something. Long-winded is bad.

JBL makes me want to listen. Heel Rock did the same thing. He had me and my friends bitching about his attitude the next day. :D Jericho did it. Triple H doesn't.

While you can argue that he has good mic skills, he just takes too long to say it, I say that brevity, a to-the-point style, is incredibly important to mic skills. I'm not saying every promo should be 30 seconds long, but you should say what you need to say, and not waste large ammounts of time.

[Loose Cannon]

LOL, I don't know if this is bullshit or not from you because of the first sentenceof your last paragraph there. Yea, let's give HHH 20 minutes for a 6 minute promo and leave a hot young prospect off the show. I love that idea.

I said it yesterday in another thread and I'll say it again in here, HHH's promos turn people off and they lose viewers most of the time. He takes wayyyyyyyyyy to long to say what he has to say. Nobody gives a shit about what the hell he's saying 5 minutes in.

Funny, last night I flipped to "24" during the HHH promo. "24" went to commercial and I flipped back to Raw. HHH still talking. Flipped back to "24" for about 9 minutes. Flipped to Raw again during commercial and the fucker is still talking. My brother goes "What the fuck is he doing, delievering a State of the Union Address?" :lol: That was a funny one.

HHH is ok if he's not given 8-20 minutes for talking.

[Kane Knight]

My brother goes "What the fuck is he doing, delievering a State of the Union Address?" :lol: That was a funny one.
Even Bush is better spoken.

[Blue Demon]

I-uhhhhhhh am sick-uhhhhhhh of HHH-uhhhhhhh

[Kane Knight]

I-uhhhhhhh am sick-uhhhhhhh of HHH-uhhhhhhh
I agreeee-uhhh...With the Fop-uhhhhh

[PullMyFinger]

Any of you think that if HHH divorces Steph, he goes to TNA?

[Kane Knight]

Any of you think that if HHH divorces Steph, he goes to TNA?
Like he'd want to lay down for Jarrett (Or worse, marry him).

[Kane Knight]

Incidentally, if Triple H could keep it short, he'd probably be damn good on the mic. It's the fact that he's longwinded and BORING. I liked the "I am gonna beat him like a bag of puppies" line. :D

[redoneja]

Has anybody ever watched any old NWA stuff featuring Harley Race? Well if you have then you would see a striking resemblance. HHH is not only resembling Race in his moves, but also in his apperance and speech. Anyone notice HHH's new beard? Guess who sported that back in the day. Instead of bashing HHH's promos like others, I see them as a sort of emulation of someone who has had a big influence on Trips.

[Gerard]

I went to take a dump, came back and he was still gabbing away. :wtf:

[mike627]

I think his promos from late 97-01 were golden after that....meh

[BatistaBomb]

I went to take a dump, came back and he was still gabbing away. :wtf:


so basically it was still shit when you came back to the tv

[YOUR Hero]

He rambles, it's not like he's eloquently speaking. He's fooled you guys by being the only one really given any mic time, so know you think he's good. A curse on all your gardens.

[redoneja]

*Walks Outside* AH MY GARDENS!!!!!!!! :'( :wavesad: Goodbye lovely flowers....goodbye.

[Aussie Skier]

HHH does do occasionally great promos.

When he was on the highlite reel with Eugene last year, he was brilliant.

WHen he talks slowly, breathes deeply and uses cheap heel tactics like "i don't bother this girl when she's working on the corner", then he sucks.

personally, i think he's ok. BUT, 15 mins of a HHH promo is way too long!

[Aussie Skier]

Incidentally, if Triple H could keep it short, he'd probably be damn good on the mic. It's the fact that he's longwinded and BORING. I liked the "I am gonna beat him like a bag of puppies" line. :D

exactly

and he does have some good lines.
"Hand over the number jumping bean"

[Cactus Sid]

Triple H, in my mind, immediately puts people over as soon as he mentions them in his promos. The way he's been booked since he was given the World Title means that if you're hanging with him, you're doing something right, and the fans appreciate that. Cutting a 20 minute promo on Batista every week does nothing but good if you ask me.

You know, from what I've read, he put over 2 people and buried everyone else in the promotion.

The 2 people he puts over? Himself, and Batista.....the next guy he can make money off.

Considering Triple H isn't a huge draw, a 20 minute promo could be murder on the ratings. I'm willing to bet that the quarter hour ratings for that segment was one of the lowest on the show.

[M. Banana]

He hasn't-uhhh, done this-uhhh, since-uhhh, the 90's-uhhh..

[M. Banana]

A curse on all your gardens...

Where've I heard that before?

[M. Banana]

The word 'Mercutio' comes to mind for some reason..

[Kane Knight]

A curse on all your gardens...

Where've I heard that before?
It's old man slang.

[SuperSlim]

who used old man slang? that is awful.

[Kane Knight]

YOUR Grandpa.

[SuperSlim]

:eek:

[Mr. Marcus]

More Matter, Less Art.

[Kane Knight]

More Matter, Less Art.
:y:

[Londoner]

Anyway, back on topic. I agree hhh's promo's can be good, but basically he needs to shorten them down to about 5-10 mins also not 10-20 mins. I also flicked the channel over about three times while he was talking,then i stopped turning the channel and put it on mute..i had enough time to listen to a song that lasted 7 mins before he finished...i feel sorry for the people who were watching it there, i even heard a few 'boring' chants, did anyone else hear them?It was at the start of it when he was talking all the usual shit.

[Kane Knight]

Anyway, back on topic. I agree hhh's promo's can be good, but basically he needs to shorten them down to about 5-10 mins also not 10-20 mins. I also flicked the channel over about three times while he was talking,then i stopped turning the channel and put it on mute..i had enough time to listen to a song that lasted 7 mins before he finished...i feel sorry for the people who were watching it there, i even heard a few 'boring' chants, did anyone else hear them?It was at the start of it when he was talking all the usual shit.
See, herein is the problem...

Triple H could be Jesus, Martin Luther King, Winston Churchill, or Superman. He could rock the mic like his lips were magic. He could fellate the audience, and the pauses, the boring rhetoric, and the drawl (He mayuh...Not talkuh...Like thisuh, anymore, but still...) would still KILL him.

You see, nobody can appreciate your brilliance if they're flipping to another channel. Or (My personal favorite) talking it up with friends with the volume down while drunk.

[The CyNick]

Yeah I dont know what people were smoking to think that was a great promo. After watching it, I thought it was terrible.

As some other people have mentioned, the main problem is that he took 3 times as long as it would take a good promo guy to say the exact same thing.

In terms of putting people over, he did none of that. He buried Orton, buried the Orton-Taker match at Mania, burried Smackdown, buried JBL, and buried Cena.

The only person he kinda put over was Taker by saying Taker would kill Orton.

Aside from that it was a typical deal from HHH where he makes 95% of the roster look irrelevant so he can try to convince himself that he's the best in the business.

The funniest part was when he put down JBL calling himself a "God". The funny thing was that when JBL calls himself a "God" the joke is we all know he's not, but by saying it he comes off better as a heel. The difference with Hunter is that he actually believes he's the best, which is a joke. There are better promo guys than him, there are better workers, there are guys who sell more tickets, there are guys who are more over, and there are guys who have a better combination of all those things.

Dont get me wrong, I think Hunter is a good talent, but listening to him yammer on for 20+ minutes about how he's the best at the expense of the rest of the company isn't my idea of doing a good promo.

[John la Rock]

Cynick

no offence but isn't the goal of a promo to put yourself over?

In promos, putting someone else over makes you look extremely weak.

And HHH didn't "burry" these people like you said

[Kane Knight]

Cynick

no offence but isn't the goal of a promo to put yourself over?

In promos, putting someone else over makes you look extremely weak.

And HHH didn't "burry" these people like you said
The goal of wrestling is to get exposure, and so if the end result is to crush everyone else and make the business weaker for it, then you're doing a good job. :y:

Just like the goal of a heel is to make people care less and flip channels while he talks. People not watching the show out of boredom=teh ratingz

[Danny Electric]

Romeo and Juliet

[redoneja]

If HHH is the best in the business then wrestling is in deep shit.

Seriously

[Fignuts]

If HHH is the best in the business then wrestling is in deep shit.

Seriously

Explain Why.

[redoneja]

Simple
HHH isn't a great promo guy(Flair is STILL better), has lost some of his in-ring ability, and can't put on a good match w/ just anyone(like Angle, Chris Daniels, and AJ Styles can).
Edge, Benjamin, Angle, Beniot, Guerrero, Mysterio.....all these guys are better than HHH IMO.

[Kane Knight]

If HHH is the best in the business then wrestling is in deep shit.

Seriously
Wrestling has been in deep shit forever. Hello?

[The CyNick]

Cynick

no offence but isn't the goal of a promo to put yourself over?

In promos, putting someone else over makes you look extremely weak.

And HHH didn't "burry" these people like you said


Hunter's only objective should be to make people want to see Batista kick his ass.

Making JBL, Cena, SD and Randy Orton look inferior does not do that.

And yeah he did bury them, watch it again if you have to.

[ford fairlane]

i think hhh promos are usually very good

the reason i think this weeks was a bit below par was since batista made it clear he was going after hhh's title very little has happened between them to add more fuel to the fire

so basically the reason he was repeating was that was all he could do as nothing has happened

if you get what im tryin to say

[Justdisturbed]

i think he deserves to have raw centred around him and him always beeing in title contention or title matches just because there is no bigger heel or even a heel equal to his to replace him.

i personally feel he is in the top three for promos (with the rock and Y2J)

and i just hope that batista doesnt beat H and he goes up against someone more equal liek chris masters or sum boring powerhouse like him.

[PureHatred]

i think hhh promos are usually very good

the reason i think this weeks was a bit below par was since batista made it clear he was going after hhh's title very little has happened between them to add more fuel to the fire

so basically the reason he was repeating was that was all he could do as nothing has happened

if you get what im tryin to say

You know what.....I totally understood that.

The WWE has booked thie Batista/HHH feud in a way that its basically stagnant at this point. Batista turned on Evolution, HHH sends the entire roster after Batista to no avail, Triple H looks stunned, and JR screams like he's beating a government mule. We haven't got any of the usual "face gets laid out" segments. They haven't played up any of the intrigue as to where Flair's loyalties where like with Orton.

So Trips got 20 minutes to say the exact same thing he's been saying for weeks. Seriously, after 20 minutes there needed to be a bigger pay-off than, "I'm putting the animal down!!!"

Maybe if he'd told us that Dave had killed a woman in college, or that Ric was going to marry Batista's gay father...now that's a feud.

[The CyNick]

Its actually smart (and kinda shocking) that they haven't laid Batista out yet. The way he needs to be booked, he cant be selling, especially in a beat down by the guy he's challenging and a 50 year old man.

I think they really hurt the program with Batista's promo a couple of weeks ago where he couldn't come up with any logical reason to go after Hunter. There was no meat to the promo, it was just 'I want to win the title'.

The thing they have going for them is that they did such a great job teasing the Batista turn that fans were going to be into it no matter what they did.

But I haven't found any of the TV since Batista did the contract signing has made me want to see the match any more than I did before.

Just about every other match on the card has been built up much better in the sense that each week has escalated the fued to the point that you want to see the match more and more. I just cant say that for HHH-Batista, but like I said, it was built up so well before it probably doesn't matter.

[Kane Knight]

Its actually smart (and kinda shocking) that they haven't laid Batista out yet. The way he needs to be booked, he cant be selling, especially in a beat down by the guy he's challenging and a 50 year old man.

I think they really hurt the program with Batista's promo a couple of weeks ago where he couldn't come up with any logical reason to go after Hunter. There was no meat to the promo, it was just 'I want to win the title'.

The thing they have going for them is that they did such a great job teasing the Batista turn that fans were going to be into it no matter what they did.

But I haven't found any of the TV since Batista did the contract signing has made me want to see the match any more than I did before.

Just about every other match on the card has been built up much better in the sense that each week has escalated the fued to the point that you want to see the match more and more. I just cant say that for HHH-Batista, but like I said, it was built up so well before it probably doesn't matter.
Awesome post.

Beating down Batista would be counterproductive.

[Kane Knight]

Okay, I decided I was gonna make it brief, then changed my mind.

Here's part 2:

The Batista-Triple H feud is supported only by its lead up, and at this point, they'd be hard pressed to piss it all away. People still dug even the shittiest Batista promo, because it's the payoff. The WWE really built up his turn right, and now he's mad over.

Too bad they're going to waste that at this rate, because the novely boost he gets for this won't last once people get used to it. While he was getting some good pops even as a heel, there's only so long this can coast. Luckily for the WWE, it'll probably be right through Wrestlemania, after which it's okay if they bury him.

I also agree that the other matches have been built up better. It's a shame, because I end up with a feeling of Deja Vu, like I saw this last week. Even Pick Your Poison, wehich sounded good to me, really did NOTHING to "elevate" or "escalate" the feud. I appreciate the power of the "unstoppable" force, but it feels wasted within this setup.

[The CyNick]

It should be easy to book Batista.

Go back to the library, find the old tapes of Goldberg in 98 and do that!

Batista is not great on the mic or in the ring, he might be decent if given a chance to work on those things, but by then people will see through him, and whatever mystique he has will be gone.

Therefore you ahve to book him to kill everyone. The problem is they wont do that. We've already seen him selling for Kane, Snitcky and even Ric freakin Flair. I love Flair, but there's no way a 50 year old man should get offence on an "animal".

Thats why I fear they will blow it big time with Batista. I think he'll work long matches with Hunter at Mania and likely Backlash as well. And they will have him try to cut promos in the ring. These things will expose him and he'll sputter, and Hunter will get the belt back.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but I said the exact same thing about Benoit last year at this time, and well, I ended being dead on. So.

[Kane Knight]

It should be easy to book Batista.

Go back to the library, find the old tapes of Goldberg in 98 and do that!

Batista is not great on the mic or in the ring, he might be decent if given a chance to work on those things, but by then people will see through him, and whatever mystique he has will be gone.

Therefore you ahve to book him to kill everyone. The problem is they wont do that. We've already seen him selling for Kane, Snitcky and even Ric freakin Flair. I love Flair, but there's no way a 50 year old man should get offence on an "animal".

Thats why I fear they will blow it big time with Batista. I think he'll work long matches with Hunter at Mania and likely Backlash as well. And they will have him try to cut promos in the ring. These things will expose him and he'll sputter, and Hunter will get the belt back.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but I said the exact same thing about Benoit last year at this time, and well, I ended being dead on. So.
Agreed. It should be simple, but the WWE has massive ego problems, so even the few professionals who will lay down are meaningless compared to Ric Flair actually hurting the animal.

I can let them get away with Kane, who's supposed to be a monster, and to some extent, even Snitsky, but the lack of capacity to actually put people over is freaking pathetic.

[MVP]

Let's face it. The night after Mania won't be about celebrating Batista's title win, it will be about Hunter's rematch.

[Kane Knight]

Let's face it. The night after Mania won't be about celebrating Batista's title win, it will be about Hunter's rematch.
Or beating up the guy who screwed him.

[PureHatred]

To be honest, I'm hoping the WWE drops the ball on this. I know that outside of his look, Batista has no qualities that merit putting him in the main event at the biggest PPV of the year.

He's no great shakes in the ring or on the mic, and if he didn't look like some juiced up freak and if there wasn't the semi-novelty of him turning on Evolution, no one would care. He's exactly the same guy that fans ragged on months ago for having to be carried in tag matches by Ric Flair.

So I'm actually hoping that the WWE hurries up and kills his heat on the off-chance that I'll enjoy the next performer who gets a run in the main event.

Of course, since whoever gets elevated next will just be another body flung on the pit of spikes that is HHH's ego.....meh.

Fuck, I need to start watching Smackdown.

[Kane Knight]

You know, the WWE's "If we tone down the good wrestlers, our main event won't look so weak" is working to an extent.

Batista's not great in the ring, but he's a solid worker capable of making his moves look SICK. I'm not saying he's the next Hall of Famer, or he could make Bret Hart look like a sloppy worker, but he can be enjoyable.

Granted, you could stick any other Hoss with a decent amount of skill in the same position,. and he'd likely go over interchangably. And if I could see NOVA in the WWE, or cruiserweights that actually FLY, I'd probably be going "Dave Who?"