View Full Version : Hall of Fame Ceremony
Marc the Smark
04-02-2005, 01:11 PM
What time does it start tonight? And are they going to show everyone, or just Hogan?
It starts at 11, when Velocity usually is shown. I would imagine that it's either just Hogan or the last few.
John la Rock
04-02-2005, 01:39 PM
ya I'd say it's Piper than Hogan
James Steele
04-02-2005, 02:06 PM
That sucks, I want to see the whole damn induction ceremony. Even though I never thought I'd see Hulk Hogan join the "Vince McMahon Kiss My Ass Club".
Team Sheep
04-02-2005, 02:26 PM
Anyone know if it's on in the UK?
Loose Cannon
04-02-2005, 04:20 PM
JUST HOGAN
Said this like a week ago.
Disturbed316
04-02-2005, 04:45 PM
As much as I loved Hogan, it's pretty pointless if it's just him. The 2004 ceremony was actually really good. Lots of jokes and funny stuff consider it was ment to be a "serious" thing. Oh, and everyone had their time to say something.
Shaggy
04-02-2005, 05:06 PM
Well then I guess there is no Velocity this week...damn. I actually wanted to see it this week. Wont be home for the Hall of Fame thing but taping it will work.
James Steele
04-02-2005, 05:08 PM
I hope Roddy Piper decides to kick Hogan's ass right then and there. Then kicks Stallone in the nuts and yell "That's for Rocky V"
if it is an hour they might show the highlights of the others.
redoneja
04-02-2005, 06:46 PM
only showing Hogan= kicking Volkoff, Iron Shiek, Piper, Orndorff, Orton, Jimmy Hart n the nuts and saying "Thanks for everything but we just don't care"
Corndad
04-02-2005, 10:14 PM
I hope Roddy Piper decides to kick Hogan's ass right then and there. Then kicks Stallone in the nuts and yell "That's for Rocky V"
I would rep you like 1000 times over if didnt have to "spread it out" before giving to ya again :lol:
good they added piper i think it will be a set up for tomorow.
SuperSlim
04-02-2005, 11:10 PM
Cena looks like an idiot ith ath huge chain and thing on him
yea cena looks bad, what the hell is this ad right when piper is about to speak.
piper asks if hbo was there great dig at vince.
#1-norm-fan
04-02-2005, 11:31 PM
this is bullshit hogan doesnt belong hter!
The Answer
04-02-2005, 11:32 PM
Hulk still Rules!!!
The Answer
04-02-2005, 11:32 PM
this is bullshit hogan doesnt belong hter!
How do you figure that?
i wish he would have come out to vodoo child.
The Answer
04-02-2005, 11:44 PM
i wish he would have come out to vodoo child.
What an ovation!!!
The Answer
04-02-2005, 11:48 PM
This is incredible he is crying and everything!!!!. Even Big Show is crying
Corkscrewed
04-02-2005, 11:50 PM
Geez, this is gonna go on until the hour hits. And he won't make his speech. :lol:
Corkscrewed
04-02-2005, 11:51 PM
Did you see his daughter try to sit down prematurely, then go something like 'Oh wait, not yet?' :lol:
And shit.. now "Thank You Hogan" chants.
The Answer
04-02-2005, 11:51 PM
Thank you Hogan you made this buisness :y: :y:
they all respect him, which means vince will give him another run.
I-Hate-You
04-02-2005, 11:51 PM
Triple H (thinking while clapping): I hate you forever because I can't draw worth a shit.
Corkscrewed
04-02-2005, 11:53 PM
Meltzer reports that Hulk Hogan will get another four year run, eclipsing JBL's recent run and Diesel's run, due to his popular reception at the Hall of Fame Ceremony. Vince was reported to have been very pleased with the "One more match" chants and will schedule that at Backlash, then spend 48 months hyping his title defense.
CREDIT: PW Insider
The Answer
04-02-2005, 11:54 PM
Metzer reports that Hulk Hogan will get another four year run, eclipsing JBL's recent run and Diesel's run, due to his popular reception at the Hall of Fame Ceremony. Vince was reported to have been very pleased with the "One more match" chants and will schedule that at Backlash, then spend 48 months hyping his title defense.
CREDIT: PW Insider
LOL and that would still draw more than anyone in WWE currently
This is great tv they need to do this every year.
Gouda
04-03-2005, 12:04 AM
Damn. I wanted to see The Sheik's speech.
Piper was one hilarious guy.
Cena looked like a moron.
Ric Flair was sweating mighty heavily sitting there and laughing at Piper's jokes.
When Ric Flair was introducing Piper and called him "the most entertaining man in history" the camera immediatley cut to HHH.
When Hogan said "I finally made it" I added "I finally cut off the audience!"
The respect was nice but after awhile it just dragged on too long.
Corkscrewed
04-03-2005, 12:05 AM
Mark my words, 10 years from now, when Austin gets inducted into the HoF, the crowd will chant "WHAT" every two seconds, the speech will last 46 minutes, and the show will be the most expensive overrun in WWE history.
Corkscrewed
04-03-2005, 12:06 AM
Yeah, Piper was awesome. I enjoyed his speech and induction way more than Hogan's.
Marc the Smark
04-03-2005, 12:14 AM
A couple of observations........
1. I feel bad for the guys whose inductions weren't televised. Like somebody already said, it's like saying, "you're not important enough."
2. Did you notice when Stallone came out, everyone stood up EXCEPT Bob Orton and Paul Orndorff? It's like they were protesting, and I was actually quite happy. Do you really think "Rambo" belonged on that stage tonight??? Does Hogan think none of the guys he worked with in wrestling were good enough to induct him??????
3. Did you notice when Hogan started hugging the other guys, Orndorff again did not stand up??? What did you think about that????????????
4. I finally saw tonight how much Hogan LOVES himself. He could have started his speech about 20 minutes sooner, and the people would have stopped. He could have started his speech sooner, and would have had more time to thank the people who made him (including Vince McMahon). Instead, he stood there, taking it all in, and thinking only about himself. :n:
Any comments?
yea piper kicked ass i wonder why stone cold an y2j backed out. i am suprised he got away with that hbo remark.
Marc the Smark
04-03-2005, 12:16 AM
yea piper kicked ass i wonder why stone cold an y2j backed out. i am suprised he got away with that hbo remark.
It was live tv. There was nothing they could do.
Gone Mad
04-03-2005, 12:17 AM
Piper was WAY better than Hogan in the HOF ceremony. My niece was still awake and she got some of Piper's jokes, Hogan she was bored with after a while.
And BTW I think it was the wife that sat down prematurely too. I caught both of the times and just LMAO.
PullMyFinger
04-03-2005, 12:34 AM
Rocky V sucked, indeed.
Loose Cannon
04-03-2005, 03:01 AM
Did someone say Hogan doesn't belong there? what the hell? You can't deny how much money and how many fans he made and brought into wrestling. He deserved to stand up there for as long as he wanted too. I'm not a huge fan of Hogan by any means, but the impact he's had on the business is uncanny. It's realy true that the those guys sitting behind him wouldn't have made as much money as they did back in the 80's if it wasn't for Hogan.
The reaction he got was well deserved and I'm glad the fans kept going.
Loose Cannon
04-03-2005, 03:05 AM
By the way, Orndorff is in pretty bad shape, so that's why he didn't get up.
PureHatred
04-03-2005, 03:27 AM
HOF > Slammys
Hired Hitman
04-03-2005, 04:59 AM
Could somebody please post the jokes Piper told?
Thanks in advance :)
#1-norm-fan
04-03-2005, 05:03 AM
That was amazing!!!!!!!!!
Also, the theater was much bigger than I was expecting. I was cheering for Hogan for the first time since I was a kid. Piper is the man though. He was great beyond words tonight. And despite all the bad things people have said about Flair recently, seeing how much he genuinely enjoyed being there was awesome.
I didn't mind Stallone inducting Hogan. They are good friends, let him do it. I didn't hear people booing John Elway's daughter when she inducted her dad into the Pro Football Hall of Fame because she "didn't have anything to do with football." You can say there is a difference between family and friends but who cares. It was Hogan's moment.
On a side note, the thing I love most about things like these are just seeing the guys be themselves. Like seeing JBL and Triple H and Kurt Angle smiling and applauding guys like Hogan and Piper and such was cool to watch.
#1-norm-fan
04-03-2005, 05:05 AM
HOF > Slammys
Yeah. I am SO INCREDIBLY ready for WrestleMania now. Piper saying "You ain't seen nothing yet, WrestleMania 21..." and Hogan talking about how he can't wait to watch WM and see the guys leave it all in the ring gave me goosebumps.
FourFifty
04-03-2005, 06:19 AM
Thank you Hogan you made this buisness :y: :y:
Maybe this should be a topic of its own, but Hulk Hogan is, without a doubt, the most over-rated face in wrestling history. Savage could have just as easily taken his place.
Thank You Hogan, but if you were not there, Thank you Savage. The elbowdrop is so much cooler than the leg drop.
What about thank you Piper? Awesome mic skills, he was years ahead of his time. How come he didn't fued with Andre the Giant?
And why was Hacksaw the first man to knock out Andre?
Hogan did not make the buisness... Vince made it, with a little help from the fans.
/puts on fire proff jacket, ready for flaming.
Marc the Smark
04-03-2005, 10:18 AM
Maybe this should be a topic of its own, but Hulk Hogan is, without a doubt, the most over-rated face in wrestling history. Savage could have just as easily taken his place.
Thank You Hogan, but if you were not there, Thank you Savage. The elbowdrop is so much cooler than the leg drop.
What about thank you Piper? Awesome mic skills, he was years ahead of his time. How come he didn't fued with Andre the Giant?
And why was Hacksaw the first man to knock out Andre?
Hogan did not make the buisness... Vince made it, with a little help from the fans.
I agree with some of this. Sure, Hogan did a lot for the business, but the business did a lot for Hogan. Sure, Hogan helped to make Vince, but Vince helped to make Hogan. Hogan could never have done it without Vince, but Vince could have done without Hogan because he could have easily picked someone else. So what does Hogan do? Instead of thanking the McMahons, he stands there all that time and lets the people chant his name :roll: He should have started talking, and the people would have stopped. (Hasn't anyone else here seen Bob Barker on The Price is Right?) And NO, I don't think "Rambo" should have inducted Hogan, because I think it's a slap in the face to all the other wrestlers? What, none of the wrestlers Hogan worked with were good enough to induct him???? And yeah, I think the other wrestlers were slapped in the face because there inductions weren't televised. It's like saying, "thanks, but you're not good enough to be shown on tv." And to the person who said Orndorff is in bad shape, that's why he didn't stand up, are you sure about that????? When Stallone first came out, everyone stood except Orton and Orndorff. I was happy they didn't. Then when Hogan started hugging all the other guys (which, by the way, Piper and The Sheik have never said one good about Hogan, who WTF?) Orndorff again remained seated. Maybe Orndorff was pissed for being overlooked.
Gerard
04-03-2005, 10:32 AM
You ever think it had something to do with mcmahon getting stallone to induct hogan? Wrestlemania goes hollywood and a big name hollywood actor at the hall of fame seems to fit the theme pretty well i woulda thought. :wtf:
Gouda
04-03-2005, 10:33 AM
HOF > Slammys
They actually had some large Slammy award statues as partof the set. :lol:
Marc the Smark
04-03-2005, 10:37 AM
-- Randy Orton inducted his father, while also acknowledging his grandfather's presence in the crowd. Bob Orton offered little in the way of a speech.
-- Jim Ross inducted Nikolai Volkoff, who gave an emotional speech about having to represent the very country he was so eager to leave during his WWE run.
-- Sgt. Slaughter inducted Iron Sheik, who gave a entertaining and, at times, incoherent speech that even got Gene Okerlund a bit frustrated.
-- Bobby Heenan inducted Paul Orndoff, who was said to be gracious and bitter at the same time. He also gave a shout out to his kids, evidently not knowing that his speech would not air on the Spike TV telecast.
-- Jerry Lawler inducted Jimmy Hart, who gave a solid speech with a lot of thank-yous, including credit to his megaphone.
-- After Hogan's speech, his family took the stage and presented The Hulkster with a glass case of various memorabilia.
Loose Cannon
04-03-2005, 11:39 AM
I agree with some of this. Sure, Hogan did a lot for the business, but the business did a lot for Hogan. Sure, Hogan helped to make Vince, but Vince helped to make Hogan. Hogan could never have done it without Vince, but Vince could have done without Hogan because he could have easily picked someone else. So what does Hogan do? Instead of thanking the McMahons, he stands there all that time and lets the people chant his name :roll: He should have started talking, and the people would have stopped. (Hasn't anyone else here seen Bob Barker on The Price is Right?) And NO, I don't think "Rambo" should have inducted Hogan, because I think it's a slap in the face to all the other wrestlers? What, none of the wrestlers Hogan worked with were good enough to induct him???? And yeah, I think the other wrestlers were slapped in the face because there inductions weren't televised. It's like saying, "thanks, but you're not good enough to be shown on tv." And to the person who said Orndorff is in bad shape, that's why he didn't stand up, are you sure about that????? When Stallone first came out, everyone stood except Orton and Orndorff. I was happy they didn't. Then when Hogan started hugging all the other guys (which, by the way, Piper and The Sheik have never said one good about Hogan, who WTF?) Orndorff again remained seated. Maybe Orndorff was pissed for being overlooked.
my god. what is wrong with you? You have just defined the phrase "jumping to conclusions" very well. Thank you.
Vince and Co. were the ones who got Stallone to induct Hogan because celebrities, at least one, usually always appear at these things.
Spike TV only showed Hogan and Piper cause they only had an hour. Hogan = Ratings. Ratings = Money. You think many people watching that would of gave two shits to see Orton, Volkoff, Shiek, Orndorff or Hart speak? Hell no. Only real hardcore fans care about them. So why put them on? Put the guys people won't turn off on.
Yea, I was the "person" who said Orndorff didn't stand because he was probably weak by then. He did have severe nerve damage and a neck injury a long time ago that still affects him to this day. His spine is in bad shape too.
And I Never heard anything once that Orndorff has problems with Hogan. He and Hogan made a ton of money in 86 and he's said he's loved working with him.
Loose Cannon
04-03-2005, 11:47 AM
oh and I don't know how you call a guy "over-rated" when he basically made the most money in the history of the business, brought the mainstream to wrestling, brought in more fans then ever imagined, helped put Wrestlemania on the map, and basically made everyone else around him more money for him being there.
Joe Kerr
04-03-2005, 12:08 PM
When people think of wrestling Hulk Hogan is the biggest name that comes to there mind. I dont think anyone including The Rock or Stone cold steve austin will be bigger than Hulk Hogan. Im also certain Hogan will come back for maybe a year. One final run and it wont be that Mr. America crap.
The Answer
04-03-2005, 12:09 PM
oh and I don't know how you call a guy "over-rated" when he basically made the most money in the history of the business, brought the mainstream to wrestling, brought in more fans then ever imagined, helped put Wrestlemania on the map, and basically made everyone else around him more money for him being there.
:yes: :yes:
John la Rock
04-03-2005, 12:13 PM
HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN
KingofOldSchool
04-03-2005, 12:42 PM
*snore*
if anyone built hogan it was vince sr not vince jr, but then made the mistake to fire hogan after he did rocky3. vince sr did not want hogan doing that movie so hogan made it big despite the wwe not becouse.
The CyNick
04-03-2005, 02:10 PM
I always fear when he gets these kinds of reactions.
Yes he deserves it, but the worst thing that can happen if for Vince and co to see that, and think "Hogan is the most over guy, we should push him again".
We all seen how successful that was the last time.
I do think they should use this to push one more match for Hogan (maybe next year at Mania) or even Summerslam this year. But dont go beyond that.
I heard an Austin-Hogan chant, so maybe thats the way to go. Or maybe something like Austin and Hogan in a tag, say at Summerslam, and then that leads to some kind of tension, and a singles in Chicago next year.
If Vince ever retires he should get a 1 hour standing ovatiuon, because he's done more for the business than everyone else combined. EVen though he can be a huge dumbass at times.
KingofOldSchool
04-03-2005, 02:38 PM
If Vince ever retires he should get a 1 hour standing ovatiuon, because he's done more for the business than everyone else combined. EVen though he can be a huge dumbass at times.
Loose Cannon
04-03-2005, 02:41 PM
Yea, Hogan/Austin has to be the match. That's really all I wanna see from those two.
adamwwe
04-03-2005, 02:43 PM
Hulk Hogan was right for the character. Saying Vince could have "picked anyone" to play that role is a bit over the top IMHO, but Vince was smart enough to pick the right guy. Savage was right for the role he played, Hogan was right for the role he played.
There's no such thing as an "on his/her own" star. Terry Bollea was perfect for the role of The Hulkster, and Vince McMahon's WWE(F) was the perfect company to house that character. It came together and worked to an extent that doesn't happen very often, and both Vince and Hogan equally deserve the kind of reward Hogan was given last night.
And about Hogan stalling and letting the fans go on and on:
1) Wrestlers thrive on fan reaction. Thats what its all about.
2) He didn't ask for it, but he got it. They didn't have to chant "Thank you Hogan", "Austin/Hogan" and "One more match" just because he was stalling for it. They could have forced him to talk by shutting up. The guy was in character and having fun with it, and the fans ate it up. It was great.
Corkscrewed
04-03-2005, 03:41 PM
I did notice Hogan hamming it up. And yeah, it says tons about his characters, just soaking up the ovation that got a bit tiring after it hit the 4 hour mark (exaggeration). He definitely deserves the HOF, but I can't attest to being a fan of Terry Bolea, the selfish, egotistical person.
Nevertheless, his contribution to the industry cannot be denied.
I didn't quite get the HBO joke Piper made (I also had to do something at that moment). Care to elaborate?
adamwwe
04-03-2005, 03:45 PM
Piper was let go last time due to comments about drug use and other negative feelings about wrestling and his character on an HBO special.
#1-norm-fan
04-03-2005, 03:58 PM
I'm not going one way or the other on the Hogan situation.
On one hand, it WAS his night, he should have been able to handle it the way he wanted.
On the other hand, you gotta get in there and force some time to thank some guys that were responsible in some way for the moment.
#1-norm-fan
04-03-2005, 03:59 PM
Piper short-selling his acting was :nono: btw.
Has the man seen "They Live" himself? That move was F'ING AMAZING!
and vince was on the same hbo show an vince looked like an ass so he blamed piper for it so he fired him, it had to do with the many early deaths in wrestling.
TerranRich
04-03-2005, 07:03 PM
Are they replaying the HOF ceremony? I completely forgot to TiVo the damn thing.
They replayed it before Heat, I doubt it will be replayed again...
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