View Full Version : John Cena: Same crap, same tired crap
The Naitch
04-10-2005, 06:29 PM
Anyone think people will start booing him more and more? I hope so. Same tired crap. Only people who would cheer for Cena would probably be guys like Savior and whatnot. Same crap. Same tired crap.
Stupid Gertwitz.
Cena is my favourite wrestler on the active roster :(
Loose Cannon
04-10-2005, 06:36 PM
Yep, in crowds like NY,. Canada, Detroit, Philly he's going to be getting booed more and more. Bet on it.
Ruien
04-10-2005, 06:38 PM
Yep, in crowds like NY,. Canada, Detroit, Philly he's going to be getting booed more and more. Bet on it.
You forgot Chicago
RGWhat316
04-10-2005, 06:59 PM
I dunno about Detroit. We have usually cheered him pretty well when he comes here. But it seems people liked him more when he was making fun of other people. So until he is allowed to actually freestyle, booing could happen.
M. Banana
04-10-2005, 07:00 PM
The wigga population is growing, which only means more cheers for Cena.
Gouda
04-10-2005, 07:06 PM
Yeah. In the crowds that act "different" he'll start to get booed. I guarantee it.
Marcyo
04-10-2005, 07:08 PM
Just like HBK in toronto.
Maybe not that much but it'll come. :y:
jjmoney21
04-10-2005, 07:20 PM
yeah, same crap all the time
M. Banana
04-10-2005, 07:38 PM
Are there a such thing as smark crowds?
Batsu
04-10-2005, 07:49 PM
Yeah.
Cena's F-U is long overdue for a makeover. Turn it into a TKO or make it situout. Do SOMETHING.
Otherwise, Cena in 2005 = Rock in 2000, right up until the point he jobbed to Angle, just about. Only thing with Cena is that Cena was kept away from the WWE title waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. He should have won that as his momentum was really moving.
Marcyo
04-10-2005, 07:49 PM
Toronto is the closest thing to a smark crowd.
YOUR Hero
04-10-2005, 07:50 PM
You can't boo this
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M. Banana
04-10-2005, 07:53 PM
Looks like a pic of you grabbing your bush.
YOUR Hero
04-10-2005, 07:59 PM
It's supposed to be waving....moving. :grrr:
James Steele
04-10-2005, 07:59 PM
You are a dirty bastard MB.
M. Banana
04-10-2005, 08:00 PM
My hand doesn't make black marks when I wave it.
*waves*
Oh wait, yes it does.
Gone Mad
04-10-2005, 08:01 PM
THECHAMPISHERE! How can anyone hate this guy? THECHAMPISHERE! He is one of the best things to come out WWE in a while. THECHAMPISHERE! Though he is supposed to be a gangsta, and if the crowd doesn't like him, Cena will play along with them. THECHAMPISHERE! But yea, at it takes for a new heel turn is that one crowd that will act different towards him, so time will tell.
.....Champishere. :shifty:
James Steele
04-10-2005, 08:02 PM
It works! Whenever Cena does it, I can only see a jackass.
:p
M. Banana
04-10-2005, 08:04 PM
Three dollars says we'll get a "DA CHAMP IS HURR" member within two weeks.
Gone Mad
04-10-2005, 08:04 PM
BTW, he said that damn phrase 3 too many times! God, I get it, you're here!
M. Banana
04-10-2005, 08:08 PM
Cena's Promo:
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Kane Knight
04-10-2005, 08:24 PM
Yeah.
Cena's F-U is long overdue for a makeover. Turn it into a TKO or make it situout. Do SOMETHING.
Otherwise, Cena in 2005 = Rock in 2000, right up until the point he jobbed to Angle, just about. Only thing with Cena is that Cena was kept away from the WWE title waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. He should have won that as his momentum was really moving.
:y: couldn't agree more. This is getting pretty stupid now.
YOUR Hero
04-10-2005, 08:50 PM
Cena didn't need the belt yet then. He was already over. Now that his popularity is waining some, it was the right time to boost him with the belt. JBL needed the belt earlier in to cement his character, without the belt, his chahracter didn't work as well. Hopefully they use the belt properly on him.
HeartBreakMan2k
04-10-2005, 09:54 PM
Toronto is the closest thing to a smark crowd.
The ECW crowd?
Funky Fly
04-10-2005, 09:55 PM
Canada is not one single venue, Loose Cannon.
See: The Rock, New Age Outlaws, Stone Cold Steve Austin
Repeating shit seems to work very well when the guys are over.
Kane Knight
04-10-2005, 10:17 PM
See: The Rock, New Age Outlaws, Stone Cold Steve Austin
Repeating shit seems to work very well when the guys are over.
It would also help if Cena wasn't past the peak of his popularity.
It would also help if Cena wasn't past the peak of his popularity.You could also argue that Sheriff Austin and Hollywood Rock were both past their peak and yet the marks still cheered for everything that they said.
Kane Knight
04-10-2005, 10:36 PM
You could also argue that Sheriff Austin and Hollywood Rock were both past their peak and yet the marks still cheered for everything that they said.
I forget: Was Sherriff Austin champion at the time, and thus expected to be a primary draw past his time?
James Steele
04-10-2005, 10:46 PM
*gasps*
http://gohan3k.com/tpww/thechampishere.jpg
I forget: Was Sherriff Austin champion at the time, and thus expected to be a primary draw past his time?No but he still had a shitload of tv time that could have gone to younger stars because people still cheered him.
This is far from my original point of having repeated catchphrases being effective, however.
Gertner
04-10-2005, 11:07 PM
It's time for a change. JBL could use a title push
Kane Knight
04-10-2005, 11:14 PM
No but he still had a shitload of tv time that could have gone to younger stars because people still cheered him.
This is far from my original point of having repeated catchphrases being effective, however.
It's not far from the original point at all. You are arguing that the "past his prime" Rocky is an example of how someone in Cena's position is effective and viable. However, the Rock returned with some new catchphrases which mixed things up, which is Hardly what Cena's done so far. The Rock in his prime used a combination of mic skills AS WELL AS pavlovian responses.
It's not far from the original point at all. You are arguing that the "past his prime" Rocky is an example of how someone in Cena's position is effective and viable. However, the Rock returned with some new catchphrases which mixed things up, which is Hardly what Cena's done so far. The Rock in his prime used a combination of mic skills AS WELL AS pavlovian responses.I suppose the whole FCC garbage did tame his badass image quite a bit, but the whole rebel shtick with defacing titles and creating a bond with the "chain gang" help him get over with the younger marks. Couple that with his ass-kicking attitude and it plays into the hands of the fans.
Savio
04-11-2005, 12:13 AM
Only people who would cheer for Cena would probably be guys like Savior and whatnot.Why cuz I RP as him? No. If you read my life story you'd know I think he should go back to heel.
Chain gang = dumb shit.
Londoner
04-11-2005, 01:36 AM
^I agree witht he chain gang being shit, he doesnt need to be a heel, just needs to come up with something new as a face. I wouldnt mind him beign a heel though.
Dave Youell
04-11-2005, 03:49 AM
Yeah.
Cena's F-U is long overdue for a makeover. Turn it into a TKO or make it situout. Do SOMETHING.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I'll have to change my finish, i've only gotten away with it this long because no one remembers marc mero
Dave Youell
04-11-2005, 03:52 AM
oh and the most Smarked up crowd IMO would be the ROH crowds, anywhere
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
04-11-2005, 07:17 AM
Give him a moustache and turn him Nazi.
http://img116.exs.cx/img116/1009/Tron.gif
It worked in C-Fedding... So it must work in real life too...
Nowhere Man
04-11-2005, 08:49 AM
*marks out for Hip-Hop Hitler*
Marcyo
04-11-2005, 10:42 AM
*marks out for Hip-Hop Hitler*
BigDaddyCool
04-11-2005, 08:38 PM
Give him a moustache and turn him Nazi.
http://img116.exs.cx/img116/1009/Tron.gif
It worked in C-Fedding... So it must work in real life too...
:rofl:
Regarding Cena I have always thought that he played the heel better than being a face. Maybe if they let him write his own stuff which seemed to quite well when he did it before. BTW I am ready to cringe at what he does with the WWE title.
Kane Knight
04-11-2005, 10:24 PM
Regarding Cena I have always thought that he played the heel better than being a face. Maybe if they let him write his own stuff which seemed to quite well when he did it before. BTW I am ready to cringe at what he does with the WWE title.
I don't think he'd be that bad a face, if they didn't fuck wih him and prevent him from really doing freestyles like he used to.
On the topic of Cena, anyone else find it hilarious to watch the WWE Champion do a 3 minute rap about a fucking energy drink during RAW? For some reason I just can't take him seriously anymore, he's like this walking wankster joke who just happens to be the champ.
redoneja
04-12-2005, 09:58 PM
Hey Youell, didn't The Messiah use a TKO for his finish?
olympic hitman
04-12-2005, 10:45 PM
See: The Rock, New Age Outlaws, Stone Cold Steve Austin
Repeating shit seems to work very well when the guys are over.
You are exactly right. When something works, it works.
Cena is no more repeating himself than other workers. The Undertaker has been saying "Rest in Peace" for damn near 20 years now. Does that mean he should retire? No[in my opinion anyway].
Cena is a young,talented guy who WILL be the future of the WWE & Smackdown for years to come, like it or not. I do think he should change his matches up some, however. He needs a few more power moves and some suplexes and maybe some submissions as well. Other than that, nothing short of a future heel turn will change him. And right now, like it or not, his character is working....NUFF SAID.
M. Banana
04-12-2005, 10:46 PM
DA CHAMP IS HURR!!111
M. Banana
04-12-2005, 10:47 PM
Raise your hand if you've ever threw your television out the window when Cena's said that.
Kane Knight
04-12-2005, 11:17 PM
*raises hand*
Mr. JL
04-13-2005, 01:28 AM
They should have given John Cena the WWE Title back in 2003. Just like they should have given RVD the WWF Title back in 2001.
Kane Knight
04-13-2005, 01:31 AM
Preach, bruddah.
Mr. JL
04-13-2005, 01:38 AM
...i think all of my posts ALWAYS come back to RVD in some fashion
Cena is a young,talented guy who WILL be the future of the WWE & Smackdown for years to come, like it or not. I do think he should change his matches up some, however. He needs a few more power moves and some suplexes and maybe some submissions as well. Other than that, nothing short of a future heel turn will change him. And right now, like it or not, his character is working....NUFF SAID.
Uh, John Cena will not last and will not be the future of anything if he continues on this bland, white boy, wankster ass rapper shit he's on right now. He was good before the writers started doing his raps for him, but right now, he's losing a whole helluva lot of his overness to mediocrity.
Besides, even if he does start becoming the "edgy" rapper again, that shit won't last forever.
Oh, and while we're on the topic of John Cena's problems, HE NEEDS A NEW GOD DAMN FINISHER!
Kane Knight
04-13-2005, 01:58 AM
...i think all of my posts ALWAYS come back to RVD in some fashion
Well, in this case, it makes sense. You put the title on a hot prospect when you want to push them higher.
RVD was over, they blkew it. Cena was over, they may have blown it. I dunno yet.
olympic hitman
04-13-2005, 02:32 AM
Uh, John Cena will not last and will not be the future of anything if he continues on this bland, white boy, wankster ass rapper shit he's on right now. He was good before the writers started doing his raps for him, but right now, he's losing a whole helluva lot of his overness to mediocrity.
Besides, even if he does start becoming the "edgy" rapper again, that shit won't last forever.
Oh, and while we're on the topic of John Cena's problems, HE NEEDS A NEW GOD DAMN FINISHER!
While I'll admit, Cena could do better, he's far from the worst wrestler I've ever seen.
Does he need to work on his rhymes? Of course.
Am I tired of hearing "The Champ is HERE!!!" ten million times? A resounding YES. He needs some more catchphrases.
Does that mean I totally hate Cena's character? No. I think there's definite room for improvement. But, he's watchable.
As far as you commenting on the white rapper thing, it's the base for his character. Why would he change? It'd make no sense. That'd be like Taker saying he's not "dead"[even though we know it's the character]. Or like Flair saying he's not the "Nature Boy". It'd be ludicrious.
I much prefer the heel "edgy" Cena, but, it's his time to be face. He's "over" and is the top face on Smackdown[debatably so, considering Guerrero is the MOST over face, but, the WWE doesn't seem to care anyway].
Oh well. Some people will never be satisfied no matter what.
I do, however, agree with ya on one thing; Cena does need a new finisher. The F-U was funny when he first started doing it, as he was mocking Brock Lesnar's F5. However, the move has lost it's appeal and looks too damn weak. Perhaps he should re-think the finisher situation :wave:
Kane Knight
04-13-2005, 02:36 AM
Besides, even if he does start becoming the "edgy" rapper again, that shit won't last forever.
Just like Austin.
But seriously, Cena has it. That X Factor that blows the competition out of the water. Now if only they would let him run with it, because he's shit now.
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