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Yeah, only about two more games. :p
Seriously, though, RP rips me for saying the Pistons are going to win three in a row, then all of a sudden that's what's "supposed" to happen?
Pick a side, dude.
The consensus was that Detroit was either gunna sweep or just lose 1. I ripped you because of the fact that we went up 2-1 and you said that. Almost as if you just dismissed our 2 wins.
The Pistons are very capable of winning the next 2 games.
Remember last year when Detroit's playoff run was over after the triple-overtime loss to New Jersey? What happened after that?
All it takes is one bit of adversity (whether it's losing a marathon or getting denied a chance to tie), and this team bounces back. They just needed a fire lit under their ass, and last night was what they needed. This series doesn't make it to game seven. Detroit won't lose again.
Until they play Miami. Then they'll lose two or three games.
Indiana is the poster child for adversity.
To dispute you claim that Detroit wont lose again. Indiana is 4-2 on the road this year in the playoffs. There 3-1 in the last 4 games played in Detroit. ( Including a Bomb Threat called in on the second game)
They arent a pushover team. I think its gunna go 7 for sure and Game 7 might be a toss up.
Let me ask you this Loop. Giving the circumstances reguarding Indiana's season and Detroit being the defending champions. Should this series even be 2-2?
loopydate
05-16-2005, 10:06 PM
No. And that's definitely something we agree on. Detroit is playing way below the level they're capable of, and Indiana is (or was in games 2 and 3) playing way above the level they should be playing at, considering what they've been through.
The fact that the Pacers even made the playoffs, despite injuries, suspensions, and everything else is one of the more impressive feats I've seen in a long time.
So, yeah, by all accounts, this series should not be tied at 2-2. Although, for that matter, neither should either of the Western series. That's the beauty of the NBA Playoffs. If you don't play to your potential, you're not going to breeze through, no matter how great your team is. Detroit is going to have to play their asses off for the rest of this series and throughout any others they get to.
And after the way they played Game 4, I stick by my earlier assertion that they win this series in 6. I think that Games 2 and 3 showed them how much they'd been slacking, and I don't think we'll see that again. These players are too talented, and Larry Brown is too good of a coach to allow that to happen.
(And, for the record, I didn't neg rep you before because I disagreed with you. I welcome disagreement, as long as your points are well made [as they have been in your last few posts] Rather, I did it because I thought the "beating Detroit 4 times, including once in the stands" joke was in poor taste, and not even a little bit funny. I just hope the courts don't take it easy on those assholes when the season's over.)
Jesus Shuttlesworth
05-16-2005, 10:40 PM
What happened to the Patriots avatar?
MoRcHeEbA
05-16-2005, 10:46 PM
lol yeah I thought he said he would keep it till the Colts beat the pats
Jesus Shuttlesworth
05-16-2005, 11:21 PM
AKA FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE
AKA FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE
:|
I'll put it back up when the Pacers are done this year.
(And, for the record, I didn't neg rep you before because I disagreed with you. I welcome disagreement, as long as your points are well made [as they have been in your last few posts] Rather, I did it because I thought the "beating Detroit 4 times, including once in the stands" joke was in poor taste, and not even a little bit funny. I just hope the courts don't take it easy on those assholes when the season's over.)
Low blow. I know. Why would they not take it easy on the players? They gave the cup thrower and the chair thrower probation didnt they?
Old news tho. I was just pissed thats why i said it.
Indiana is gunna come out strong tonight. This might be the best game of the series when its over
Jermaine O'Neal has truely blew it in this series.
Loop your probably right. We are being schooled right now. Its really pathetic.
I concede. Pacers are not winning this series. Detroit is 5x better.
We dont deserve to be on the same court.
This is why they didnt trade Artest in the midseason.
Indiana is gunna come out strong tonight. This might be the best game of the series when its over
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :nono:
BCWWF
05-17-2005, 09:31 PM
I love Artest
Optik
05-17-2005, 11:10 PM
I feel the need to join in on the laughin especially after hearing what Jackson had to say after the game. But, I'm really hoping the Pacers can go back to Indie and take the next game forcing the series to 7 inorder to give the Heat some more recovery time....
SammyG
05-18-2005, 12:35 AM
stephen jackson is the fucking shit, LOVE HIM
Splaya
05-18-2005, 01:03 AM
Are you serious? You think Indiana went through all the shit they went through this year, to take a 2-1 lead and give up 3 straight to Detroit and lose the series?
Here you go. Indiana in 5 bitch! Now empty your crack pipe and put that rock in there and smoke it!
Detroit wins the next 3.... what a moron.
Indiana in 5 eh. Suck a fat baby's balls, bitch. Detroit will not lose the next 2 and they are in the next round of the playoffs, whereas Reggie can start working on trainging for the Pebble Beach Pro-Am because his summer starts this weekend :mad:
Indiana in 5 eh. Suck a fat baby's balls, bitch. Detroit will not lose the next 2 and they are in the next round of the playoffs, whereas Reggie can start working on trainging for the Pebble Beach Pro-Am because his summer starts this weekend :mad:
:(
stephen jackson is the fucking shit, LOVE HIM
What did he say Sammy?
SammyG
05-18-2005, 12:14 PM
He didnt say anything, i just love him as a player. He hustles, always gives 100 percent. He also looks like a gangster. He should put some diamond teeth in
The Outlaw
05-18-2005, 06:05 PM
Yeah hes also a pussy
Optik
05-18-2005, 07:08 PM
After the game Jackson came out basically saying the team sucks compared to detroit and he doesn't think they have any hope if they continue playing like this....
SammyG
05-18-2005, 07:45 PM
he reminds me of slim thug
SammyG
05-18-2005, 07:47 PM
Who tha boss nigga, who the mothafuckin boss
BCWWF
05-19-2005, 04:15 AM
Jackson looks kinda badass on the court, but when they show his face in interviews and stuff he is so ugly
Splaya
05-19-2005, 10:46 PM
I don't care how much everyone hates the Pacers and the Pistons. What Larry Brown did was absolute class. that showed how much Reggie has done for the NBA over the years. Congratulations to the Pistons. Rectal Pertruder, hell of a series man. I am glad to say that the Pistons had to go through the Pacers to win this series and advance to the Eastern Finals. Hell of a series, friend.
loopydate
05-19-2005, 11:43 PM
That was one of the coolest sports moments of the last...I don't know how long.
The fact that the OPPOSING COACH thought enough of Reggie Miller to call a time out for his curtain call so that both teams could give him a standing ovation along with the crowd, was one of the classiest things I've ever seen.
Reggie is one of the greatest shooters the game has ever seen (and, probably, will ever see) and he will be missed.
And now it's time for the series that everyone has been clamoring for...pretty much all season. Pistons/Heat is going to be hot (if Shaq can walk).
Shawn
05-19-2005, 11:50 PM
Hey this ir Rectal Pertruder.I got banned for a couple days for something else so i'll post on this handle. What Larry Brown did was one of thre greatest things i've ever seen. I wish Detroit the best of luck on winning another title. I thank the Pistons for doing what they did and showing the class that they showed in thanking Reggie Miller. Good luck Pistons. You deserve the best after tonight.
Thank you Reggie Miler. Thank you so much. :'(
Shawn
05-19-2005, 11:56 PM
Larry Brown , after tonight, is one of the best coaches in the NBA. I Hope Shaq is healthy, because i think Detroit might be the best in the league and i dont wanna see any excuses. Good luck Detroit.
Shawn
05-20-2005, 12:04 AM
I cant say enough about what the Pistons and Larry Brown did . I'll post when i get Rectal Pertruder back to post.
Splaya
05-20-2005, 12:17 AM
Thank you Shawn. Thank you very much
Loose Cannon
05-20-2005, 01:21 AM
You're a hell of a guy Pertruder
MoRcHeEbA
05-20-2005, 01:33 AM
lol remember when Reggie ALWAYS OWNED THE KNICKS
The Miz
05-20-2005, 04:34 PM
Indiana in 5 bitch!
The Miz
05-20-2005, 04:35 PM
Are you serious? You think Indiana went through all the shit they went through this year, to take a 2-1 lead and give up 3 straight to Detroit and lose the series?
Here you go. Indiana in 5 bitch! Now empty your crack pipe and put that rock in there and smoke it!
Detroit wins the next 3.... what a moron. LOL this is the funniest post ever... EXACTLY what you said would not happen, happened.
The Outlaw
05-20-2005, 04:46 PM
LOL word
Optik
05-20-2005, 05:22 PM
Yeh pretty good came except I was really rooting for Indie to atleast take it to game 7. Would have given the big man some more needed rest, if Shaq can't play it's over for Miami. Yeh, we got Mourning but he is at his best when playing in spurts and if its going to be hard for Zo to cover Ben I can imagine Doleac trying to if Mourning needs a break, and it's not like their going to have alot of help from Haslem cause hes going to be busy with either Rasheed or maybe even Prince...
LOL this is the funniest post ever... EXACTLY what you said would not happen, happened.
Eat a dik
Crimson
05-20-2005, 08:01 PM
I started laughing when Reggie was holding his tears back..he looked funny. but it was a very cool moment.
And the Sonics are retarded if they dont sign Nate AND Ray...cheapmotherfuckers own starbucks you would think they could afford the best shooter in the game.
The Outlaw
05-20-2005, 11:18 PM
Eat a dik
lol wrong avatar buddy
The Answer
05-20-2005, 11:59 PM
Kid Canada does it again..
RoXer
05-21-2005, 12:10 AM
I :HEART: SUNS
BCWWF
05-21-2005, 02:27 AM
He is a believer, whats the fun in sports if you don't believe?
He is a believer, whats the fun in sports if you don't believe?
:y:
Loose Cannon
05-21-2005, 12:11 PM
Nash is a god. I thought it was Game 7 and then they just bounce back. Fucking hott.
The Miz
05-21-2005, 02:40 PM
Believing is different from making outrageous claims and looking like a moron
Whats so outrageous about it? Believing my team is gunna win 2 games in a row after they went up 2-1 and game 4 was at Indiana and Indiana plays better on the road. I'm not sure where you got the term "Outrageous". I gave Detroit tons of credit when my team lost. I admitted i was wrong and thanked them for what they did for Reggie. Your just pulling stupid opinions out of your ass. I'm obviously not gunna win a popularity contest with you, but you're a moron.
The Miz
05-22-2005, 11:41 AM
They were a 7 seed, a team that barely made the playoffs, going up against the defending world champions that had not lost any key players from their championship run. What are the chances that a 44-38 team, missing possibly their best player, if not their best defender, led by a 39 year old catch-and-shoot player, can take 4 out of 5 from the most complete team in the NBA, a team that's coach was the coach of the USA olympic team, a team that has the best defense in the NBA and includes the defensive player of the year. I'm not saying that the Pacers couldn't pull off an pset against the Pistons, but there was no chance in hell the Pacers could beat the Pistons 4-1. None.
I am a diehard Sonics fan and did not stop believing until the buzzer sounded after the 4th quarter in Game 6. I knew San Antonio was the surperior team but I thought that with an unhealthy Tim Duncan, a slumping Tony Parker, and a hot-as-ever Sonics team; that we could pull it off. I thought the Sonics had a chance at winning the series, but I did not come to TPWW and post "Sonics in 5" or anything equally ridiculous. I knew the Sonics were not going to just walk all over a superior team. I had faith in my team from Day 1 but did not look like a jackass by making outrageous claims.
Believeing in your team is great but you have to expect to be made fun of if you say stupid shit that has no chance of happening.
The Miz
05-22-2005, 11:42 AM
*cough*vikingswinningsuperbowl*cough*
Jesus Shuttlesworth
05-22-2005, 12:46 PM
PUT AWAY YOUR CRACK PIPE
SammyG
05-22-2005, 02:34 PM
That was a really classy move by Detroit for Reggie, and Rectal Pertruder is just a die hard Pacers fan and believed in his team, whats so wrong bout that
The Outlaw
05-22-2005, 04:14 PM
That was a really classy move by Detroit for Reggie, and Rectal Pertruder is just a die hard Pacers fan and believed in his team, whats so wrong bout that
Did you even read the miz's post?
SammyG
05-22-2005, 06:59 PM
whoopsie
Y2Ant
05-22-2005, 07:57 PM
whoooooo we get the conference finals live on sky sports, can finally watch some games now
I thought phoenix and miami were the favorites, but the guys on ESPN.com are predicting detroit and san antonio to win :o
Optik
05-22-2005, 10:23 PM
Not that I care, because I really don't, anal how come you switched up to a Detroit avatar?
Plus, good first game between Spurs and Suns today....
Hey Miz. I totally agree. Detroit was the better team, but i truely believed in my team after game 3. I just dont think you should throw words like " moron" around, because i gave the Pistons plenty of credit. More then i probably should have.
The reason i have a Pistons avatar is because when i talk shit about my team. I feel like i should own up if i'm wrong. So i put the Pistons avatar up. As punishment for me talking shit. Then being proven wrong. Thats why I have the Pistons avatar up.
They were a 7 seed, a team that barely made the playoffs, going up against the defending world champions that had not lost any key players from their championship run. What are the chances that a 44-38 team, missing possibly their best player, if not their best defender, led by a 39 year old catch-and-shoot player, can take 4 out of 5 from the most complete team in the NBA, a team that's coach was the coach of the USA olympic team, a team that has the best defense in the NBA and includes the defensive player of the year. I'm not saying that the Pacers couldn't pull off an pset against the Pistons, but there was no chance in hell the Pacers could beat the Pistons 4-1. None.
I am a diehard Sonics fan and did not stop believing until the buzzer sounded after the 4th quarter in Game 6. I knew San Antonio was the surperior team but I thought that with an unhealthy Tim Duncan, a slumping Tony Parker, and a hot-as-ever Sonics team; that we could pull it off. I thought the Sonics had a chance at winning the series, but I did not come to TPWW and post "Sonics in 5" or anything equally ridiculous. I knew the Sonics were not going to just walk all over a superior team. I had faith in my team from Day 1 but did not look like a jackass by making outrageous claims.
Believeing in your team is great but you have to expect to be made fun of if you say stupid shit that has no chance of happening.
My team was a 6th seed. Without Artest they were still one of the best defensive teams and they had Detroit down 2-1 with the 4th game in INDY. Pair that with the fact that they were better on the road then they were at home , both in the regular season and in the playoffs... Wheres the reach? I mean i know i'm ballsy saying they will win in 5 but its not like the stats didnt back me up. The comment was more in reaction towards Loops comment. I was emotional atm but still. It wasnt that outrageous to say considering the circumstances. There was no personal feelings though. I just represent my teams. Colts, or Pacers. I'm a life long fan.
I really think the Spurs are the real deal, but i also think the Suns are so amazing that i would not be suprised if they won the title this year. I still will put my money on the Pistons, but Pheonix's weapons are so deadly. I wont be suprised if they win it all.
Ninti the Mad
05-24-2005, 01:50 AM
Detroit what
Miami can suck my balls.
BCWWF
05-24-2005, 03:05 AM
San Antonio is still a much more overall sound team then Miami or Detroit. They have a size advantage over Detroit, and they play the same defensive game, and they are overall simply better then Miami, especially without Shaquile. The only way Detroit wins is if they play a fatigued Phoenix, and really right now I don't see Miami winning under any circumstance.
Crimson
05-24-2005, 07:48 PM
I picked det/SA before the season so fuck all yall. :)
jeanie buss is hot....anyone see her on espn today? i bet the Knicks or Lakers get a top 3 pick...
Ninti the Mad
05-24-2005, 08:17 PM
Thats not really a big feat.
Detroit defending champions... Spurs defensive powerhouse
Plus, its still too early in the series to actually know who will make it to the finals.
Y2Ant
05-24-2005, 08:38 PM
I want the Spurs and Pistons to win :o
Crimson
05-24-2005, 10:47 PM
Thats not really a big feat.
Detroit defending champions... Spurs defensive powerhouse
Plus, its still too early in the series to actually know who will make it to the finals.
I know that. i was also going along with everyone else who has Detroit/Sanantonio after game 1 wins.
Ninti the Mad
05-25-2005, 12:14 AM
hehe
Jesus Shuttlesworth
05-25-2005, 01:15 AM
I don't think its the over just yet, maybe the Suns can win 2 in SA now. I don't think its going to happen. The series isn't a wrap yet..but it is pretty damn close.
Ninti the Mad
05-25-2005, 01:39 AM
I doubt it.
The Spurs only lost 3 at home in the regular season. THREE.
Thats fucking impressive.
I think Suns can win 1 in SA but still.
BCWWF
05-25-2005, 02:46 AM
The Spurs completely throw off Phoenix's way of playing. They clog up the court and don't allow them to run like they normally do. The Spurs are and have been the best team in basketball all year, they just happen to be one of the least exciting teams as well.
Optik
05-25-2005, 10:27 PM
Wow, Miami really must be on a mission to throw away this game comeon....
SammyG
05-25-2005, 10:46 PM
Lets see if they can hang on
Optik
05-29-2005, 03:29 AM
Well, we just saw the Spurs end Suns season, too bad. Maybe if Johnson can play a little more effectively and not go 5 of 15 in game 4 they might extend it to atleast 5 and take it back to Phoenix, cause everyone knows the finals in the East won't be finished for awhile....
packt up
05-29-2005, 10:26 AM
I've not seen any of the games because I'm a poor University student in the UK :( so can someone explain where Shawn Marion has gone in this series? He must be averageing like 6 points or something.
The Outlaw
05-29-2005, 10:12 PM
Anyone hear Van gundy's comments on Detroit's crowd? They are giving it even more validity now.
The Outlaw
05-29-2005, 11:05 PM
Anyone hear Van gundy's comments on Detroit's crowd? They are giving it even more validity now.
BCWWF
05-30-2005, 02:30 AM
The Miami-Detroit series is great. Easilly the two best teams. Wade has become a bona-fide superstar, if you want one guard in the league right now its Wade. He is on the same level as Kobe, T-Mac, Ray Allen, Vince, any of them. Don't go off attributing all of his success to Shaquile, Wade was going to be amazing anyway but Shaq just makes him that much better.
That being said, one of the things that makes Shaq so much better then any other center in the league is his awareness. When he posts up, he doesn't automatically shoot. There are countless centers who could do that (obviously not as effectively) and become better players. Michael Olowokandi for example, I've never seen him pass the ball in his life, he just takes shitty shots everytime he touches the ball. Any center posting up will open up the floor to an extent. With Shaq you don't know if he is going to turn on you and slam it down or kick it out, and that is what makes him so much more effective then say Erick Dampier. Obviously Shaq is a monster, but he is a smart player too and I don't think he gets that credit.
BCWWF
05-30-2005, 02:37 AM
Also, I am going for Detroit because I just like them better for some reason (and my friend wants Miami so it would be boring to go the same way), but I am glad that Shaq is back. Either team who wins deserves to be in the finals and can hopefully defeat the Spurs, but its going to be a great series and with Shaq back in the lineup it guarantees for even better games.
The Spurs-Suns is boring to watch because the Spurs collapse on the Suns, they can't do anything. What made the Suns so good earlier in the year was that Nash could drive into the lane and kick it out to Johnson, Q, or Marion for a three, or else they could send it back in to Amare who would be home free. I know Q has lost his touch but it doesn't seem like they are even trying that anymore. They just force the ball inside and get blocked by Nazr etc.
Anyway, it looks like the Suns are going to be beat, and its been pretty clear all year that the Spurs are the best team in the West, but that doesn't take anything away from the Suns. I know there are people here who have been calling this all year, the Suns run out of gas, bla bla, but they didn't, they just ran into the team that they can't beat. Their style can win them a lot of games, but not against a team so sound on offense and defense like the Spurs. The Suns had an impressive win over Dallas, they deserved to get that far, but San Antonio is just a great overall team and they play the kind of defense that you can not run around.
Also, I think Ginobili and Parker are the two most underrated players out there. Yeah Tim Duncan is an amazing player, but he gets all the credit and he shouldn't. Parker is arguably one of the best points in the game right now. Nobody can guard him.
That block by Amare on Duncan was absolutely sick. I'm not counting the Suns out at all. I've seen the Spurs blow series leads before. It would be a mistake to not win game 5 if your the Spurs.
BCWWF
05-31-2005, 03:19 AM
That is if there is a game 5
Why would there not be a game 5?
DaveWadding
05-31-2005, 03:45 AM
That is if there is a game 5
I like you, dude. but you're pretty stupid :nono:
Ninti the Mad
05-31-2005, 10:59 AM
Suns got pretty luck last game.
I dont know why the Spurs missed so many free throws. They would've won if they hit their free throws.
Anyway, I know they will come out strong Game 5 and finish this series.
The Outlaw
05-31-2005, 12:51 PM
That is if there is a game 5
lol what
Hot game though. Seemed like the Spurs players were being bitches the whole game and wanted all the calls. Tim wanted a goaltending when Amare made that nasty block at the end. :|
I kinda wish Johnson would have been available the first 3 games.
Still tho, hot game. Looking forward to game 5.
The Miz
05-31-2005, 01:30 PM
Duncan compalins about every call
Splaya
05-31-2005, 01:43 PM
League sources leaking this information is killing the Pistons. In any event, this just enters Detroit into the Phil Jackson sweepstakes.
Splaya
05-31-2005, 01:43 PM
When I say this information, I mean about Larry Brown becoming Cavs President of Basketball operations.
BCWWF
05-31-2005, 03:44 PM
My bad, I completely missed that game 4 was on last night :embarrassed:
The Miz
05-31-2005, 05:04 PM
Good job Larry Brown, talk about killing your team's momentum. Heat in 6.
Ninti the Mad
05-31-2005, 07:37 PM
lol what
Hot game though. Seemed like the Spurs players were being bitches the whole game and wanted all the calls. Tim wanted a goaltending when Amare made that nasty block at the end. :|
I kinda wish Johnson would have been available the first 3 games.
Still tho, hot game. Looking forward to game 5.
Johnson was available the third game.
Ninti the Mad
05-31-2005, 07:38 PM
And the Suns did get away with alot of calls.
I'm not worried though. After a game like this, it's usually trendy for them to come out with a blowout.
We'll see though.
They really need that freethrow ability from the first 3 games.
The Outlaw
05-31-2005, 11:10 PM
Haha ok dude :y:
If you want to see a team getting calls, See : Shaq's third foul. Pretty ridunkulous. I just turned it off, knew it was going to be a long night.
I don't believe the whole Larry Brown taking away his team's chemistry and momentum thing. This team is too professional to let that mess with them.
Had to make the series interesting again though...
loopydate
06-01-2005, 12:10 AM
Brown emphatically denied the Cleveland rumors tonight. This breaking news was coming from the same (I think) ESPN reporter who said that - if he was healthy enough - Brown would absolutely be coming back to coach the Pistons next year.
Until he signs that contract, I'm not going to believe it, and his players shouldn't either. Besides that, Brown is notorious for playing teams against each other in games of "do we have him?" He'll stay with Detroit unless his health worsens in the next couple of weeks.
Besides, why wouldn't he want to stick around for a threepeat?
BCWWF
06-01-2005, 03:11 AM
The worst case I have ever seen (biased) of non-calling in a basketball game was in the Western Finals last year, when Shaq got 5 fouls early, like I think it might have even been in the third quarter, but the officials like absolutely refused to give him his sixth. It was rediculous, and they won the game because of it. Ugh.
The Miz
06-01-2005, 11:44 PM
I just realized Mike D'Antoni won coach of the year. WTF why. Cuz his team had the best record? Please. Poppovich outcoached him miserably this series, and then there's that Brown guy in Detroit.
And to anybody who actually thought the Suns would make the finals, I say this to you: haha, you're dumb
BCWWF
06-02-2005, 01:19 AM
I was actually thinking about making a thread similar to Miz's post, and I probably will.
Anyway, I didn't think the Suns could do it but I had hope. They didn't look like the Suns in this series, the Spurs just know how to stop them, but honestly, a Detroit vs. San Antonio finals could be pretty slow.
Ninti the Mad
06-02-2005, 03:03 AM
And the Suns are vanquished.
Ninti the Mad
06-02-2005, 03:05 AM
I rather Detroit win now.
Shaq is gay.
The Miz
06-02-2005, 12:28 PM
I want Miami/San Antonio, I hate 78-73 games
Splaya
06-02-2005, 12:39 PM
I just realized Mike D'Antoni won coach of the year. WTF why. Cuz his team had the best record? Please. Poppovich outcoached him miserably this series, and then there's that Brown guy in Detroit.
And to anybody who actually thought the Suns would make the finals, I say this to you: haha, you're dumb
Yeah get Wadding and Roxer's asses in here so we can make fun of them.
BCWWF
06-02-2005, 08:47 PM
It would be pretty cool if Miami won. Wade is simply the shit, I think he is more the superstar on that team then Shaq.
Also, Splaya, weren't you the one who thought the Detroit Tigers had a chance in the Central? Also, on another note, didn't Dmitri Young tell the press early in the season that they didn't have to worry about the Twins because the AL Central was going to be between the Tigers and the Indians? What DMITRI YOU FAT PIECE OF SHIT. Go on.
loopydate
06-02-2005, 09:35 PM
Yeah, like anybody thought that the White Sox were going to be one of the best teams in baseball before the season.
And it's halftime of Game 5 as I write this and, so far, this is the worst officiating job I've seen...well, since Tuesday night. Seriously, it's like the Heat are playing 8-5 right now. Detroit is getting whistled for the most ridiculous crap (see the "charge" where Dooling - I think it was Dooling - was still mid-stride; Ben Wallace "fouling" Wade while Wade walked through the lane). There have been a couple of calls where the Pistons have been called for offensive fouls where the Heat player was inside the arc. And it's like watching a 2003 Lakers game with the amount of no-calls on Shaq.
I swear, if this is the way the game is being called now, someone should sign Akebono to an NBA contract, get him some conditioning training, and put him on the court. If you're allowed to just push your man under the basket and not get called for an offensive foul, Akebono could be the next dominant NBA center.
As much as I like Shaq as a "character," I hate hate hate the way he plays the game. They might as well just hand the referees Miami jerseys when they walk in the door.
The Whitesoxs were actually picked by many to win that division.
BCWWF
06-03-2005, 12:57 AM
And by many you mean absolutely nobody? I hate to veer off topic, but when the Twins return a pitching staff that included the cy young winner and the lowest team ERA, brings in two top prospects, is the reigning champ for three years and the Indians have a breakout year with tons of young players, nobody would picks a team who just traded away their best two players (Ordonez, Lee) and has two good pitchers (Buerhle, Garcia).
Don't get me wrong, the White Sox are legit, but to say that you called them being this good and pretending you somehow predicted that John Garland and the rest of their team finally broke out of their shells is utter BS. If you did actually predict them, you were just trying to be different. Shut up. Go Twins and Mets.
BCWWF
06-03-2005, 01:02 AM
I feel obligated to go back on topic for ya'll now.
I don't think its stupid for people to think the Suns had a chance this year. Realistically, they have the number of every team in the NBA besides the Spurs, maybe one or two others (I don't know how they matched up against Detroit and Miami). If the Spurs had gotten knocked out in an earlier round, there is no doubt that the Suns can beat every other team in the West. Houston, Denver, Sacramento, Seattle, whoever. It was pretty much a fact all year that the Spurs were the best team in the West, but the way that the Suns play they are going to win a lot of games, its that simple. Like I said in another thread, you can be the best team but not neccessarily win the championship. Where the false hope for us Phoenix fans came was when Tim Duncan went down with an injury late in the regular season and the Spurs looked like...well the Timberwolves. They couldn't beat the Washington Generals. The only problem is that Duncan came back and the Spurs got back to normal, and I think that it is going to take a miracle for them to lose four games.
So in conclusion, its not the Suns inadequacy, its the Spurs pure domination.
RoXer
06-03-2005, 02:32 AM
I'm blaming most of it on Marion. He scored like what, 10 points the whole series? And he scored 4 or so while Johnson was out the first two games. Sure, Jim Jackson picked up SOME slack, but Marion needed to be more of an offensive presence.
Good season though. Can't wait till next year. Although, I will say this...I'm kind of glad the Suns didn't win. I have noticed Amare becoming a huge whiney bitch. If you ask me, he's starting to turn into a Kobe. Hopefully, this loss will knock him down a peg or two and humble him.
And you gotta admit, this year has been pretty impressive for the team's first year. The only returning players were Marion, JJ, and Amare (And I guess Voskuhl and Barbosa). They traded a bunch scrubs (Chabarkaba, Jacobsen [Although, Jacobsen is pretty good]) for some depth. Hopefully, they'll have a good draft this year.
CAN'T WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!!!
RoXer
06-03-2005, 02:36 AM
P.S.
Quote me on this. As of Thursday, June 2nd, 2005, I, Joey RoXer, predict that:
THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS WILL BE A PLAYOFF CONTENDER. POSSIBLY AS HIGH AS A 4TH SEED.
If they can make an incredible draft pick, then this team will be the 04-05 Suns.
That is, if they don't pull a Warriors type of move and trade Davis for nothing. (Which I seriously don't even think they will do.)
BCWWF
06-03-2005, 03:11 AM
Isn't there a good chance that Joe Johnson signs somewhere else next year? If you ask me that ruins the Suns. They need both Joe and Q to be hot to be good. Q was like everything in the first half of the season.
Ninti the Mad
06-03-2005, 09:47 AM
What impresses me is that the Spurs played reserve with the Suns because of all the injuries.
Nesterovic and Duncan with sprained ankles. Brown with a disc injury. Ginobili just plain fucked up.
Now that the finals are here... they can let loose. Everything is going on the line.
SPURS ARENT BORING!!!
The Miz
06-03-2005, 12:02 PM
P.S.
Quote me on this. As of Thursday, June 2nd, 2005, I, Joey RoXer, predict that:
THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS WILL BE A PLAYOFF CONTENDER. POSSIBLY AS HIGH AS A 4TH SEED.
If they can make an incredible draft pick, then this team will be the 04-05 Suns.
That is, if they don't pull a Warriors type of move and trade Davis for nothing. (Which I seriously don't even think they will do.)
Reasons why this will not happen
1. Warriors are the worst drafters in NBA history, they will either draft some useless foreign big man or trade the pick for nothing.
2. If things are going good by the All-Star Break they will trade Dunleavy and/or Davis and completely ruin the team's chemistry. If things are going shitty they will trade their entire roster. Chris Mullin always panicks.
3. Their bench is weak. Derek Fisher and can be a good spark and Mickael Pietrus can give productive minutes for JRich but other than that they are shitty. Calbert Cheany, Zarko Cabarkapa, Andris Biderins, yuck.
4. Richardson has too big of an ego to do what Shawn Marion and Amare Statudemire did and let the point guard run the team.
5. Face it, Dunleavy has been a bust
6. Adonal Foyle SUCKS. Just plain out SUCKS. The most overpaid player in professional sports, he'll make $6.5 million next year to give 5 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 blocks a game. That salary along with Baron Davis' $12.3 million prohibits them from picking up a good SF or C which they really need.
7. They're the Warriors! Come on, maybe in a few years, but the bets I could see them doing is slipping in at 7 or 8 and getting swept in the first round.
DaveWadding
06-03-2005, 12:19 PM
Isn't there a good chance that Joe Johnson signs somewhere else next year? If you ask me that ruins the Suns. They need both Joe and Q to be hot to be good. Q was like everything in the first half of the season.
The Suns are swearing up and down that they WILL resign JJ (but its not like I'd actually believe the bullshit in the papers).
Supposively they're also working out a max extension for Mare, too.
RoXer
06-03-2005, 02:27 PM
Yeah, they were looking to trade JJ at the deadline last year because he was going to ask for a gripload of money this year. We'll see.
RoXer
06-03-2005, 02:37 PM
Reasons why this will not happen
1. Warriors are the worst drafters in NBA history, they will either draft some useless foreign big man or trade the pick for nothing.
2. If things are going good by the All-Star Break they will trade Dunleavy and/or Davis and completely ruin the team's chemistry. If things are going shitty they will trade their entire roster. Chris Mullin always panicks.
3. Their bench is weak. Derek Fisher and can be a good spark and Mickael Pietrus can give productive minutes for JRich but other than that they are shitty. Calbert Cheany, Zarko Cabarkapa, Andris Biderins, yuck.
4. Richardson has too big of an ego to do what Shawn Marion and Amare Statudemire did and let the point guard run the team.
5. Face it, Dunleavy has been a bust
6. Adonal Foyle SUCKS. Just plain out SUCKS. The most overpaid player in professional sports, he'll make $6.5 million next year to give 5 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 blocks a game. That salary along with Baron Davis' $12.3 million prohibits them from picking up a good SF or C which they really need.
7. They're the Warriors! Come on, maybe in a few years, but the bets I could see them doing is slipping in at 7 or 8 and getting swept in the first round.
1. I absolutley agree. That's why I said if. Hopefully they won't blow it. It's a big IF though.
2. If they trade Dunleavy, all the better. No one in the Bay Area really likes him. I'm not too sure how he is in the locker room though.
And Davis, yeah like I said hopefully they won't do anything stupid by trading him. But fuck Dunleavy.
3. Fisher is ok. I think Pietrus is underrated. And yes, everyone else is pretty terrible.
4. I didn't mean that they would play like the Suns, I meant they will have a great turn-around year like them.
5. Yes, which is why no one would care if he was traded.
6. Big problem here. Which makes me wonder what they'll go for in the draft. Maybe a younger C. How long does Foyle have on his contract? But yeah, I have no suggestions on how they should handle it.
7. I know, but they're overdue. Possibly a 4 seed. Definitly a playoff contender.
The Miz
06-03-2005, 04:53 PM
Foyle's locked up through 09
RoXer
06-03-2005, 05:10 PM
Sonofabitch.
You never know, he could have some breakout year...it's possible.
BCWWF
06-03-2005, 05:26 PM
Foyle may be overpayed, but he isn't the most overpaid in professional sports, not even the NBA. Take a look.
Dikembe Mutombo - New Jersey/Houston - $18,771,511
Allan Houston - New York - $17,531,250
Anfernee Hardaway - New York - $14,625,000
Keith Van Horn - Dallas - $14,487,000
Jalen Rose - Toronto - $14,487,000
Latrell Sprewell - Minnteosta - $14,462,500
Brian Grant - LA Lakers - $13,233,434
Tim Thomas - New York - $12,900,000
To put those into some perspective
Kevin Garnett - Minnesota - $16,000,000
Jason Kidd - New Jersey - $14,791,000
Ray Allen - Seattle - $14,625,000
Tracy McGrady - Houston - $14,487,000
Tim Duncan - San Antonio - $14,260,640
Kobe Bryant - LA Lakers - $14,175,000
Dirk Nowitzki - Dallas - $12,584,688
Paul Pierce - Boston - $12,569,688
Baron Davis - Golden State - $12,330
Just for kicks:
Shaquile O'Neal - Miami - $27,696,429 :eek: (Highest paid by 9 million last year)
Thats what is wrong with the NBA if you ask me. I just named 9 of the top 10 players in the NBA, and none of them got paid higher then Dikembe Mutombo or Allan Houston last year. At least make them earn it. Football and baseball have much better contract rules then basketball, and this is why.
The Outlaw
06-03-2005, 05:55 PM
Is that just their contract? Without extras and whatnot? If it is, while I do agree that all of the players on the first list are overpayed, I do not think that Dikembe Mutombo, Allan Houston, Anfernee Hardaway, Keith Van Horn, Jalen Rose, Latrell Sprewell, Brian Grant, or Tim Thomas gets anywhere near the merchandise money than all of the guys on the second list.
Maybe I'm way off, but that's what I see...
Also, anyone see Rasheed's interview? Pretty ridiculous. You had three shots, that was not the refs fault. The announcers even saw it.
Hey loopydate, if you think Shaq gets all the calls, see the four charges they called on him. Especially the one where they waved the basket off, which was his fifth I think. Get out of here with that. Out of the four charges they called on him, two were legit. It's pretty rough to call against Shaq. Yeah, there were some BS calls but it's been that way for both teams. They have been very inconsistent throughout the playoffs. I thought one of Sheed's charges were pretty terrible. The one you are talking about was the most blatantly obvious one though. You can't elbow someone in the face on your way to the goal and NOT expect to get a charge called on you. The ones where DWade drew the two on him, I thought only one of them could have been called, but I thought they should have both been no calls, because DWade pulled out some straight up Vlade Divac shit.
The Miz
06-03-2005, 11:36 PM
Mutombo: 4 points, 5 boards, 1 block off the bench
Houston: 12 points, 2 assists
Hardaway: 7 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists off the bench
Van Horn: 11 points, 5 rebs off the bench
Rose: 19 points, 3 rebounds
Sprewell: 13 points, 3 rebs
Grant: 4 points, 4 rebounds off the bench
Thomas: 12 points, 3 rebs
Foyle: FIVE POINTS AND FIVE REBOUNDS. THIS GUY IS THE STARTING CENTER.
(these were season averages)
Cmon, even though I'll agree that all of those guys are overpaid, they are at least semi-productive. Adonal Foyle gets paid 7 million dollars to do absolutely NOTHING.
And by many you mean absolutely nobody? I hate to veer off topic, but when the Twins return a pitching staff that included the cy young winner and the lowest team ERA, brings in two top prospects, is the reigning champ for three years and the Indians have a breakout year with tons of young players, nobody would picks a team who just traded away their best two players (Ordonez, Lee) and has two good pitchers (Buerhle, Garcia).
Don't get me wrong, the White Sox are legit, but to say that you called them being this good and pretending you somehow predicted that John Garland and the rest of their team finally broke out of their shells is utter BS. If you did actually predict them, you were just trying to be different. Shut up. Go Twins and Mets.
You fucking moron! Read my post. Then step back from your computer and think about what the hell you post before you post it. I didnt pick the Whitesox. I hate the fucking Whitesox ,because i'm a Cub fan.
Seriously. I agree with Wadding. I actually like you, but man you can be a retard sometimes.
As far as the contracts go. Its easy to say " Wow make them earn it ", but we would also be the same people that bash a guy when he wants to hold out, because he wants more money and he actually did earn it.
If the superstars of today have to play out there contracts then the superstars of yesterday should be held to the same standard. Why would you expect different from guys like Mutombo or Houston. You cant say " This guy makes too much money.He should re-negotiate" . Then say " This guy signed into that contract. He shouldnt hold out. He should honor that contract." I guess what i'm saying is you cant have it both ways.
BCWWF
06-04-2005, 01:46 AM
I'm just saying that nobody who matters predicted the White Sox to do anything this year, and anybody who says they did had no logical reasoning behind it. For the most part.
Outlaw, that is probably correct. I know LeBron (not on the list obviously), but he signed a contract near $100 million or something with Nike. So yeah you can get a hell of a lot of money outside of your playing contract, but thats not really what I mean.
My beef is that the way the NBA works right now, a player has a somewhat good year (Adonal Foyle for example), then he gets signed to a huge contract and then sucks it up for the rest of his career because some dumbass like Isiah Thomas has money to throw around. If you look at that list, there are two shitty New York players in the top 25 paid for last season, and Marbury was up there too. They by far have the biggest payroll, but their team is utter shit. Then the other part of the problem, if a guy is worth two million or so, then he is coveted by a couple teams, instead of going to the place where he fits in best or has the best chance at winning, a team like the Knicks can just offer him 10 million and he goes there, has no more motivation to win, and thus ruins the league. Then to add onto that, the guy next season says "I was just as good as him and he got this contract, so I want the same"...INFLATION. I hate to say it but really Kevin Garnett started it all. I don't know if I would go as far as non-guaranteed contracts, but at least a hard cap would completely cut down on shitty overprices.
Think about it, if a team can simply not spend over say 80 million, they are not going to sign a guy like Adonal Foyle to a big contract unless they know he's going to be good. He would have a pretty much set value, have a couple team offer him it, but a team like the Knicks wouldn't just put their foot in the door and offer him twice his worth. Also you couldn't have guys making like 30,000,000 without being on a losing team, so everything would balance out.
The NBA really has issues and it was terribly exposed with Latrell Sprewell this season. He made it clear that he was worried about money rather then winning a championship, and made a laughingstock of the league by saying he needed to feed his family. The way it is set up is to just let guys get really rich and relax, and that takes away way too much of the passion that is what makes basketball great.
BCWWF
06-04-2005, 11:13 AM
This isn't playoffs but its NBA related. In our paper today it was said that out of respect for the way George Mikan paved the way for him, Shaq has offered to pay all of the funeral expenses. Thats a reason to like Shaq, you hear of him doing stuff like that much more then a lot of players. Not nearly as significant, but I heard a story about Mark Madsen showing up to Lakers camp in a minivan and Shaq went out and bought him a sweet car to welcome him to the NBA.
BCWWF
06-04-2005, 03:16 PM
To: Rectal Protruder
Re: Neg Rep
I don't see how I looked like such an idiot? I stated the truth and you overreacted after taking things way too damn seriously. I feel like I am on the wrong end. Its supposed to be my that overreacts.
Sincerely,
BCWWF
Y2Ant
06-06-2005, 08:54 AM
Detriot what
The Miz
06-06-2005, 08:56 AM
Miami basically threw the game Ant, it's all about Game 7 tomorrow
SammyG
06-06-2005, 10:50 PM
if wade doesnt play, detroit will dominate easily
The Outlaw
06-07-2005, 07:57 PM
One request:
Fire http://www.bbsr.de/images/nba/dick_bavetta_gross.jpg
Ninti the Mad
06-07-2005, 10:47 PM
haha
Fuck Miami.
RoXer
06-08-2005, 07:10 AM
I'm actually looking foward to this series.
Y2Ant
06-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Miami basically threw the game Ant, it's all about Game 7 tomorrow
Detroit what :cool:
The Outlaw
06-08-2005, 09:23 AM
Ehh, we were too banged up to play another 7 game series anyway. I'll be pulling for my home town boyyyy in the finals though. If only Horry was on the Pistons too, seeing as he is one of the few Spur players that isn't a bitch. :'(
Splaya
06-08-2005, 11:11 AM
YOU ALL CAN SUCK MY FUCKING COCK
Detroit in the finals :)
The Miz
06-08-2005, 11:22 AM
One request:
Fire http://www.bbsr.de/images/nba/dick_bavetta_gross.jpg
God you guys have no idea what a bunch of crybabies you sound like when you complain about officiating. Detroit = made stops when they needed to Miami = didn't. Detroit = hit clutch free throws Miami = didn't. I guess it's Dick Bavetta's fault Damon Jones and Shaq couldn't hit free throws in the final minutes.
Splaya
06-08-2005, 11:35 AM
God you guys have no idea what a bunch of crybabies you sound like when you complain about officiating. Detroit = made stops when they needed to Miami = didn't. Detroit = hit clutch free throws Miami = didn't. I guess it's Dick Bavetta's fault Damon Jones and Shaq couldn't hit free throws in the final minutes.
I agree with u so much, that I am going to rep you for the first time ever.
Also, Detroit was this team that could not hit their free throws, just like the Miz said. What happens, Detroit goes 6 for 6 in the last minute, and Rasheed Wallace, the goat that the media loved to tear apart, makes a critical basket in the last minute and 2 free throws. Wade goes 0 for 6 in the fourth and doesn't get a point. Don't get me wrong, I give Wade all the credit in the world. He took the needle and played. It's Shaw's fault that the Heat lost. I was listening to Jim Rome on the radio today, and he said it's time to take the S away from Shaq. He's not Superman anymore, he's effective, but not Superman. I agree with him 120%. Detroit proved all the doubters wrong.
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETROIT BASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSKETBALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
road doggy dogg
06-08-2005, 11:43 AM
Not a basketball fan at all but out of boredom I watched the game last night. Hot stuff. That Wade guy is pritty ridiculous, even though he was injured. Shaq still looks like a genie. Detroit what
BCWWF
06-08-2005, 01:38 PM
Personally I would have been happy with whoever won, because both Miami and Detroit are cool teams and way cooler then San Antonio (although I'm not a particular fan of either of them).
The one thing that kind of takes away from this series though, is that Shaq and Wade both battled injury problems, so there is always going to be the "If we were healthy" excuse. I'm not saying that Miami is wrong in saying that, because in my opinion if Sam Cassell or even Troy Hudson were healthy last season, I can't imagine the Wolves losing to the Lakers in that series. But it just takes away from the whole thing, like that series wasn't difinative. On the positive note, I wouldn't be surprised to see the same two teams back here next year.
I like Udonis Haslem, he seems pretty cool, but he is the kind of guy that you can tell would be pretty awful without Shaq. Maybe not awful, but the kind of guy who is going to get a big contract to Atlanta or something, and then just not do anything. BAH.
Completely changing the topic, my friend and I were talking last night about the Kings. In a way, I could see them completely pulling a Timberwolves and sucking next year, but in another way they have a strong top 6. What will they do?
In my opinion, they have to move Peja. It kinda seems like they move one or the other, and in my opinion I would much rather have Bibby, and Peja would probably bring a lot more back. I think they need a better forward then Brian Skinner, but who knows. Maybe Lamar Odom would be a good player there (but the Lakers would be retarded to make that trade). Do you think they make a trade and who for?
The Miz
06-08-2005, 01:49 PM
The run and gun, crazy cowbell fans, Laker rival Kings are done. This team needs a new personality, I don't see why they don't trade Bibby and Stojakovic, both are past their primes but still have good trade value. Get some young guys in there and start rebuilding.
BCWWF
06-08-2005, 03:16 PM
The Timberwolves need a new point guard, there are the rumors of Jason Kidd, which I think are highly unlikely, and recent rumors of Jason Williams, but if there was some way to pull it off I would love to have Bibby on the Wolves. I just don't think the Wolves have any guys worth a nickel on the trade market right now.
Ninti the Mad
06-08-2005, 04:42 PM
Now it is time to shift to hating Detroit into the finals.
The Outlaw
06-08-2005, 08:06 PM
God you guys have no idea what a bunch of crybabies you sound like when you complain about officiating. Detroit = made stops when they needed to Miami = didn't. Detroit = hit clutch free throws Miami = didn't. I guess it's Dick Bavetta's fault Damon Jones and Shaq couldn't hit free throws in the final minutes.lol you fucking douche
He's been missing calls for years now, get a clue. I wasn't even blaming the game on him. Shaq = made three of his last four. Damon Jones = missed only one as well. So, what now?
The Miz
06-08-2005, 08:22 PM
When you say "Fire Dick Bavetta" immediately after your team gets eliminated from the playoffs, one can only assume you're hinting that the refs cost the game. If not, be clearer next time.
Detroit did not miss a free throw in the final 4 minutes. Shaquille "I always hit them when they count" O'Neal missed one and Damon Jones missed one. In the regular season, Damon Jones shot 80% and Rasheed Wallace shot 70%. Rasheed nailed his with no problem and Jones went 1-of-2. In the final minutes of the 4th quarter, no matter what your percentage is, you HAVE to hit free throws. Sheed, Prince and Billups stepped up and Shaq and Jones didn't. Had the Heat had hit all the free throws like the Pistons had, it would have been a two-point game when they had the last shot, and I can assure you Van Gundy would actually have a play drawn up instead of Wade pulling up for a three. The little things are why the Pistons continue to win.
RoXer
06-08-2005, 09:41 PM
I have no idea who to root for in this series. I love the way both teams play. Think I'll give the edge to the Pistons.
The Outlaw
06-09-2005, 05:19 PM
When you say "Fire Dick Bavetta" immediately after your team gets eliminated from the playoffs, one can only assume you're hinting that the refs cost the game. If not, be clearer next time.
Detroit did not miss a free throw in the final 4 minutes. Shaquille "I always hit them when they count" O'Neal missed one and Damon Jones missed one. In the regular season, Damon Jones shot 80% and Rasheed Wallace shot 70%. Rasheed nailed his with no problem and Jones went 1-of-2. In the final minutes of the 4th quarter, no matter what your percentage is, you HAVE to hit free throws. Sheed, Prince and Billups stepped up and Shaq and Jones didn't. Had the Heat had hit all the free throws like the Pistons had, it would have been a two-point game when they had the last shot, and I can assure you Van Gundy would actually have a play drawn up instead of Wade pulling up for a three. The little things are why the Pistons continue to win.
I've been saying that for years now though. The guy is absolutely terrible. I like watching two refs ref. That bald headed white guy who reffed, and Crawford (the black guy, I think it's Danny Crawford?)
Bavetta wouldn't call that foul on Rasheed when he was the ref right under the goal, and made the ref at HALFCOURT call it, which is why Sheed was bitching (and I don't blame him at all actually). I'm not blaming the game on him. He called a few charges (two on Shaq I think, and one on Wade) which could have easily been blocks or a no-call because the guys were sliding under them. They could have been three point plays, and it's a different game. I do agree though, the two free throws missed were HUGE. Not disagreeing there at all. I really try not to question reffing/umpiring because I have umpired games before, and it's real rough, and I can only imagine reffing a basketball game.
Another question though - that foul on Antonio where Zo ended up falling into his knee. That just made me :?: I was all pumped because I thought it was Sheed's 6th when he fouled a few minutes later, and then realized it was on Antonioooo. :'(
Ninti the Mad
06-10-2005, 08:47 AM
TONIGHT
Gonna order the Chinese... maybe some pizza...
Gonzo
06-10-2005, 11:39 AM
Pistons in 7.
loopydate
06-10-2005, 02:08 PM
Can't wait. This is going to be an awesome series. It's how it's supposed to be: The two best teams in the league battling it out for the O'Brien Trophy.
First time since the Bird/Magic years that the previous two NBA champions have met in the NBA Finals. And I hope these two teams just keep making it, showing that defense and playing as a team is better than just feeding your superstar over and over and over.
Obviously, I want the Pistons to win this, but if they have to lose to somebody, I'd rather it be San Antonio than anyone else in the league.
Ninti the Mad
06-10-2005, 10:59 PM
whoooo
Detroit sounds like the crybabies now. Wahhhhh Ginobli ran over my 6'9 280 pound center. Wahhhhhh It was a offensive fouls. Whatever. Detroit blew a great lead in San Antonio's house. Then they got worked. Yet all they can talk about is the block call.
Ginobli is becoming a superstar. He's creating his legend and i'm happy i get to see it. If he keeps this up i'm getting a silver Ginobli jersey!
Ninti the Mad
06-10-2005, 11:56 PM
I've said this before and I know its premature but Ginobili = next Jordan.
I dunno. I just see the spark and determination in him every time he plays and he always does something that makes me go "holy shit".
As long as he keeps healthy with the way he plays sometimes, he is going in the record books.
I've said this before and I know its premature but Ginobili = next Jordan.
I dunno. I just see the spark and determination in him every time he plays and he always does something that makes me go "holy shit".
As long as he keeps healthy with the way he plays sometimes, he is going in the record books.
Ok off the Manu Ginobli koolaid pls.
Ginobli will never be Jordan. There is no comparison. They dont have the same game at all. Dont ever utter that comparison again thx.
Ninti the Mad
06-11-2005, 08:02 AM
Let's see.
Good 3 point shooter
fade away like noones business
can throw off balance shots and they still go in
can weave through traffic pretty much untouched
great ballhandler
Dont tell me you are one of those people that has this perfect image of Jordan. He wasnt perfect. Jordan wasnt Jordan right away. It took time.
I've watched Ginobili(please spell his name right) play throughout the years and he is always adding new things to this arsenal. It's actually getting scary.
Basically you described Steve Nash, Allen iverson, Richard Hamilton, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James,and Tracy Mcgrady ( i can keep going ).
Btw . He's not that good defensively
The Outlaw
06-12-2005, 03:45 PM
Yeah that block call was utter shit. While it was a big turnaround in the game (wasn't the game tied or very close at that time?) it's not like it cost them the game.
There will never be another Jordan by the way. I really wish people would quit saying "Kobe/TMac/DWade/Lebron/Manu/insert Flavor of the Month here = next Jordan"
Ninti the Mad
06-12-2005, 04:15 PM
Yeah that block call was utter shit. While it was a big turnaround in the game (wasn't the game tied or very close at that time?) it's not like it cost them the game.
There will never be another Jordan by the way. I really wish people would quit saying "Kobe/TMac/DWade/Lebron/Manu/insert Flavor of the Month here = next Jordan"
I think they were up by 7-9.
BCWWF
06-12-2005, 05:13 PM
Ginobili is pretty sweet, but he's not Jordan. He does get a lot of steals though.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20050613/capt.sge.cot22.130605082535.photo00.photo.default-255x384.jpg
You know its going bad for Sheed when this is the pick of the day on Yahoo sports.
SammyG
06-14-2005, 08:12 PM
lol did anyone else notice that the pistons came out to the undertaker's current theme song last night?
Ninti the Mad
06-14-2005, 08:16 PM
lol did anyone else notice that the pistons came out to the undertaker's current theme song last night?
lol yeah
I thought that was quite humerous.
They did get buried that game though. :cool:
SammyG
06-14-2005, 08:18 PM
Yeah.. how appropriate!
SammyG
06-18-2005, 02:16 AM
2-2 series tied, wow. this better go 7, its only right that it does
Jesus Shuttlesworth
06-18-2005, 02:33 AM
Reminds me a lot of when the Spurs laid down for the Lakers after going up 2-0.
Gonzo
06-18-2005, 10:07 AM
I have a $10 bet with a friend. After the Spurs went up 2-0 I said that the Pistons will win all 3 at the Palace, lose game 6 and then win game 7. Its going to happen just like that too.
The Icon of Elisim
06-18-2005, 03:48 PM
If I were a betting man I'd say that the Pistons win game 5 based on how the last two games have gone but the Piston's have been pretty bad this year when the pressure is off them. Wouldn't be surprised to see them lose on Sunday.
Lindsey Hunter is earning himself a nice little contract to retire to , because of his defense alone. Teams pay for the top defensive players. He's playing like one.
BCWWF
06-19-2005, 12:34 AM
Is it just me or has Hunter been around forever?
ROBERT FUCKING HORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a game. 33 seconds to go.. Spurs by a buzzer beater imo.
should have been a technical.
I want to see triple overtime.
ROBERT FUCKING HORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBERT MOTHERFUCKING HORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Miz
06-21-2005, 12:15 AM
ROBERT
The Miz
06-21-2005, 12:16 AM
HORRY
PureHatred
06-21-2005, 12:16 AM
How do they let Robert Horry get open?
Triple A
06-21-2005, 12:19 AM
Wow Horry.
Robert Horry = Hall of Fame.
BCWWF
06-21-2005, 12:33 AM
that was insane. The first game of the playoffs that I watched a big part of, and it really is a high quality basketball game. I think this is a great series.
PureHatred
06-21-2005, 12:42 AM
that was insane. The first game of the playoffs that I watched a big part of, and it really is a high quality basketball game. I think this is a great series.
No. Up to this point this has actually been a shit series. Four unwatchable blow-outs. And as usual, just atrocious officiating.
PureHatred
06-21-2005, 12:48 AM
Robert Horry = Hall of Fame.
Get out of here with that. Horry averages 8 points and 5 rebounds a game for his career. He's super clutch. But you can't just ignore the fact that Horry is basically a non-factor in 80% of the games he's in.
He's like the Bizarro Chris Webber.
Robert Horry is the greatest player alive.
SammyG
06-21-2005, 01:11 AM
Marks out for big game. i marked out like a mother fucker when he beat the kings in game 4, when he was with the lakers... great times...
SammyG
06-21-2005, 01:15 AM
Fuck all of those people that say these finals are boring
I really want to strangle Rob Thomas.
Ninti the Mad
06-21-2005, 01:51 AM
I really want to strangle Rob Thomas.
lol I've been saying that since Game 1
But, yeah, the first nail biter in the series and I'm glad San Antonio came on top. I was fucking tripping out throughout the entire second half/overtime.
God, my nails hurt.
YES SPURS
PureHatred
06-21-2005, 01:57 AM
Fuck all of those people that say these finals are boring
Christ, one good game and people are soiling their pants like its the Bird Celtics against the Magic Johnson Lakers. The first 4 game swere so bad that this series would have to go 7 and both games would have to be nail-biters for me to think this was a great Finals.
loopydate
06-21-2005, 08:21 PM
I really want to strangle Rob Thomas.
Yeah, but at least it's better than that Destiny's Child shit they played at halftime.
I was really frustrated last night, but that game was the game I've been waiting for all series. As much fun as it was to watch my boys win by 31 on Thursday, I came into this series expecting overtime and one-point games, and last night didn't disappoint. While I wish the outcome was different (Why did you leave him 'Sheed? Why?), that was an excellent game.
I've said since this series started that if the Pistons had to lose to someone, I'm glad it's the Spurs. And, unless the Pistons can win two in San Antonio (and they haven't won one since 1997), looks like Big Game Bob gets his sixth ring. And, man, does he deserve it after last night.
RoXer
06-21-2005, 08:24 PM
Yeah, if I see Rob Thomas, I will shoot him.
RoXer
06-21-2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah, and Hubie Brown. I'm tired about ranting about them though.
RoXer
06-22-2005, 09:11 PM
lol. Stuart Scott made a great transition from black to white.
"I axed him about it and he said 'I ain't no punk' and I axed him 'Dawg, can I quote you on dat' and he said 'yeah'...Let's now send it back to Michelle Tafoya for an interview on the opposite side od the court."
Haha.
Wow the fucking Pistons. Still hanging. I think they could win Game 7. Game 6 was there game 7. Now Game 7 is one game whoever wins is the champion. Spurs dont have a game to fall back on. They have to win.
I think the Pistons are going to do it.
road doggy dogg
06-23-2005, 03:18 PM
Game 7 is gonna rule
road doggy dogg
06-23-2005, 03:18 PM
Unless the Pistons lose, of course :shifty:
BCWWF
06-23-2005, 03:44 PM
Lets go Pistons!
I don't think that San Antonio has the personality to win this game. They are a better skilled team if you ask me, but I think Detroit uses the intangibles and they will complete the impossible. I love it.
SuperSlim
06-23-2005, 03:49 PM
I think Detroit may lose game 7
I bet Rob Thomas didnt bang not one of them mexian chics in the Carlos Santana video, because Rob Thomas is a big fat pussy.
Matchbox 20 sucked cock. That Carlos Santana song sucked cock. His solo album sucks cock. Rob Thomas's whole life revolves around alot of cock sucking. Why would ABC want to put a cock sucker on t.v.
SammyG
06-23-2005, 04:35 PM
lol at pistons coming out to undertaker's music
road doggy dogg
06-23-2005, 06:06 PM
I think Detroit may lose game 7
Hey guys, I found out where natureboycv has been
Y2Ant
06-23-2005, 06:37 PM
Detroit what, Pistons gonna win game 7 :cool:
Y2Ant
06-23-2005, 06:38 PM
Just like when the Calgary Flames bottled it in game 6 and jobbed to Tampa in game 7 :cool:
RGWhat316
06-23-2005, 11:48 PM
I don't usually watch that much basketball, but being in the Detroit area, I'm kinda getting caught up in the Pistons fever. So I will definitely be pulling for them. I'll probably go back and forth with the game, and SmackDown, depending on how that goes. Go Pistons!
loopydate
06-24-2005, 05:15 PM
Taping SmackDown, watching Game Seven.
Pretty damned good way to spend a June Thursday.
Aside from...y'know...engaging in some sort of physical activity.
Gonzo
06-24-2005, 05:22 PM
Matchbox 20 sucked cock. That Carlos Santana song sucked cock. His solo album sucks cock. Rob Thomas's whole life revolves around alot of cock sucking. Why would ABC want to put a cock sucker on t.v.
You suck cock, just leave.
Anyways I think the Pistons might pull off the comeback. Going to be a hell of a game in the least. I'm pulling for the Pistons, wouldn't mind seeing them repeat as Champs. Would definitely be a shame for the Spurs but oh well.
BCWWF
06-24-2005, 07:43 PM
I have grown to love Detroit in this series and really do think they have the character to pull this off tonight.
And, like Gonzo said, why the fuck is Rob Thomas still being talked about? His name maybe should have been mentioned in two or three posts, but for some reason it keeps coming back up.
1. Nobody cares
2. Matchbox 20 is probably better then what you listen to
SuperSlim
06-24-2005, 08:04 PM
2 things
1. I'm hopin Detroit loses game 7. I can't stand them.
2. Smooth is a good song.
El Santo
06-24-2005, 08:35 PM
Go Pistons. Originally from Detroit myself.
This series not only deserves a Game 7, it deserves to go the distance. I want to see triple overtime.
PureHatred
06-24-2005, 08:50 PM
Pistons have heart. They have guts. They do the little, grimy things to win games. They have a better coach. They have pride. Hell, they have so mcuh pride, they didn't get title rings, they got CHAMPIOSHIP BELTS!!! (Which is the hottest thing in team sports, ever)
Plus, seeing TD with that Deer in the headlights look down the stretch the last two games pretty much decides it for me who I'm rooting for.
Also, Matchbox 20 is like a tougher version of the Goo Goo Dolls. So..not sayin' much.
Supreme Olajuwon
06-24-2005, 09:13 PM
Undertaker theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeme
RGWhat316
06-24-2005, 10:58 PM
Damn, still close. Detroit just had a 9 point lead, now its down to 4. 48-44 in the 3rd.
RGWhat316
06-24-2005, 11:41 PM
Spurs up by 7 with less than 3 min to go.
The Miz
06-25-2005, 12:01 AM
Playoff predictions
Spurs over Wolves
Pistons over Heat
San Antonio Spurs def. Detroit Pistons, 4-3
Yeahhhhhhhhh
p.s. I misspelled Suns "Wolves" for some reason
The Highlander
06-25-2005, 12:03 AM
SPURS WIN, SUCKAAAAA!!!
The Outlaw
06-25-2005, 12:05 AM
I expected a good game 7. http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif
One request:
Fire http://www.bbsr.de/images/nba/dick_bavetta_gross.jpg
SuperSlim
06-25-2005, 12:05 AM
Pistons lose :D
The Miz
06-25-2005, 12:08 AM
lol I bet Splaya shot himself
BCWWF
06-25-2005, 12:10 AM
What a great game though. I was rooting for Detroit in this series, but the way Ginobili and Duncan played this game was unbelievable. This was a great NBA Finals if you ask me. Not bad at all for the game. There was more intensity and emotion in these final few games then I have seen in the NBA Finals in years. I liked Detroit, but the Spurs showed me tonight that they actually do have a personality and they do love their team, and I am glad that they won it. This was a great series for basketball, no bullshit about it, just great basketball. The two best teams, the two best coaches, add that to the collective bargaining agreement, and I love the direction the NBA is going right now.
The Outlaw
06-25-2005, 12:12 AM
You change your mind more than John Kerry son.
I was wanting my boy Antonio to get a ring. :(
RGWhat316
06-25-2005, 12:20 AM
Damn, sucks, no back to back this year. This was probably the most excited for a basketball game I had ever been. But there is always the future.
BCWWF
06-25-2005, 12:21 AM
I'm not changing it in the fact that I was rooting for San Antonio, but just after this game they showed that they had qualities that I said they didn't. I didn't think they were passionate and emotional like Detroit, and I didn't think their crowds were great, but this game they were all of that. So although I would have liked to see Detroit win, I am not disappointed that San An did. I would rather see Manu and Duncan win then AI or Kobe.
Ninti the Mad
06-25-2005, 01:30 AM
HAHAHAHAHA
SHOVE IT SUCKAS
DETROIT WHAT
Ninti the Mad
06-25-2005, 01:32 AM
:p
SammyG
06-25-2005, 01:42 AM
Great series, better team won
Jesus Shuttlesworth
06-25-2005, 02:02 AM
Good stuff. Not a big Piston fan for some reason. I thought they were going to win this series tho
SammyG
06-25-2005, 02:08 AM
Its just great when the 2 coaches are such good friends and stuff, respectful to eachother, its just good for basketball. this series was gold.
The Icon of Elisim
06-25-2005, 04:42 AM
I don't understand how people can call this a good series when 4 games were unwatchable blow outs
SammyG
06-25-2005, 01:14 PM
Meh, I still liked it
BCWWF
06-25-2005, 02:05 PM
Two of the games were Detroit blowing out San Antonio though :)
That being said, so this year had three close games and four blowouts, name a better series in the last couple years? The finals haven't been to a game 7 in a long time.
The Miz
06-25-2005, 03:07 PM
It was the best finals in a couple years but that still doesn't make it good.
Ninti the Mad
06-25-2005, 03:42 PM
I'm glad to see some people change their views, even a little bit, about the Spurs.
The Outlaw
06-25-2005, 04:05 PM
Yeah, not a good series at all.
I even thought the game 7 was lackluster. Very sloppy, especially the first half.
DominateR
06-25-2005, 05:07 PM
Yeah, not a good series at all.
I even thought the game 7 was lackluster. Very sloppy, especially the first half.
You can say that again. The officials tried to screw us (Detroit) over in the first half by calling all the fouls the other teams way, just like they did all the other games in this series and the East Conference Finals vs. Miami (lets remember people, these guys officiated both series'), but we squeaked out a 39-38 halftime lead, only to let it slip to a tie at the end of 3, and then we got more of the bullshit calls in the fourth that ultimately doomed us to failure but GODDAMN IT WE DID NOT GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And all you motherfuckin haters better watch out cuz DETROIT WILL WIN IT ALL IN 2006! (Unless we get more biased officiating against us AGAIN).
Oh and to the NBA officials who officiated the last 2 series, if you're reading, this one's for you :foc:
Ninti the Mad
06-25-2005, 05:11 PM
oMgZ bAd oFficiAtINg1!!1!
I'm sorry they didnt let Detroit play slap wrist for game 7 like some of the other games.
RoXer
06-25-2005, 05:35 PM
Oh and to the NBA officials who officiated the last 2 series, if you're reading, this one's for you :foc:
You tell 'em.
SammyG
06-25-2005, 07:28 PM
I gained a whole new respect for the spurs this series. I started by rooting for the Pistons, but as the series went on, Spurs became the team i wanted to win. I'm a diehard Lakers fan, always will be, i should hate the spurs, but they earned my respect.
Loose Cannon
06-25-2005, 07:37 PM
Great series I thought. I love Duncan so I was pulling for the Spurs. I love how he plays the game. Just goes out there and plays smart basketball. No kind of trash talk, no kind of overblown emotion. The man
Y2Ant
06-25-2005, 07:54 PM
Every time I see Ginobili, he always runs up the middle and jumps to dunk it and gets knocked down really easily, aside from that I quite like both teams, but I wanted Detroit to win :(
The Outlaw
06-26-2005, 05:39 PM
No kind of trash talk, no kind of overblown emotion. The man
Agree with the trash talk bit. Not with the overblown emotion though. He gets pissy every time he doesn't get a call. Ben Wallace's fro could graze him and he would bitch about it like it was the hardest foul ever. He is one of the best players in the league (not to mention a winner), but that doesn't mean he should get every call.
BCWWF
06-26-2005, 06:26 PM
I like KG's overblown emotion, and everything else about KG :sad:
The Miz
06-26-2005, 06:37 PM
yeah seriosuly Duncan cries foul EVERY TIME he doesn't score
RoXer
06-27-2005, 01:40 AM
I hope you guys are kidding.
BCWWF
06-27-2005, 01:44 AM
Honestly, the reason I don't like Duncan is because he plays with no emotion (or so it seems). In game 7 it looked like he was, and I liked him for that game, but otherwise he is way too boring. Also, KG shoots better FT%
Y2Ant
06-27-2005, 02:13 PM
yeah seriosuly Duncan cries foul EVERY TIME he doesn't score
I also noticed this
The Outlaw
06-27-2005, 04:00 PM
I hope you guys are kidding.
Have you ever watched Tim "I make a WTF face every time I dont score because I think I get fouled" Duncan play?
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