Video of Owen Hart's death?

[RockNRoll]

Kind of a morbid question, but I have to know. I have seen the video of Owen Hart's last comments backstage before he was to go plummet to his death. How come the video of his death has never been leaked to the internet?

[Tornado]

Touchy Subject.

The video WAS leaked onto the internet, and I did once download it, but I thought best not to watch it, and deleted it. Curiosity almost got the better of me.

[Zen v.W.o.]

There is no video of his actual fall, as when that happened the wwe was showing pre-match video footage hyping Owen's match. The rest of the video shows JR constantly repeating that something unrelated to storylines has happened to Owen, and that this is all real..with just shots of the crowd for about 9 minutes. That is the video footage that is on the net. There is nothing else. You will never see the fall, or Owen in the ring.

I dont know why people always wonder about that.

[Tornado]

There actually is a picture of Owen lying in the ring after the fall, i've seen it. And a fan did tape the fall, thats the video thats floating around.

[TerranRich]

Actually, if you download any video of it on the net, like say from LimeWire, it's usually something completely unrelated, like an ECW stunt or some other stupid incident that has nothing to do with Owen Hart's death.

And yes, the video does NOT exist. Anywhere. People always ask this.

The thing is, when Owen fell, it was dark because a promo was playing on the TitanTron, and everybody's attention was to the screen. Therefore, not even handheld video cameras were pointed to the ring at the time.

Yes, there are photographs that exist out there, taken by spectators, but it's nothing to talk about.

You probably only think that the video floating around is real. I've downloaded it many times out of morbid curiousity as well, but nothing was ever the real thing. So I'm convinced it doesn't actually exist.

[Dave Youell]

any time i've tried to get that it's either a wired cartoon of a deer or some shite Usama bin Laden comedy sketch

[The Gooch]

There actually is a picture of Owen lying in the ring after the fall, i've seen it. And a fan did tape the fall, thats the video thats floating around.
I believe that picture may be in Martha Hart's book "Broken Harts" on Owen's death. I have the book, but haven't checked the pictures for some time. It is one of the most depressing books I've ever read, but I highly recommend it.

[RockNRoll]

Actually, if you download any video of it on the net, like say from LimeWire, it's usually something completely unrelated, like an ECW stunt or some other stupid incident that has nothing to do with Owen Hart's death.


Yeah, I downloaded it. It's just some extreme stunt from some indy fed. I sent the guy I downloaded it from a message telling him that it wasn't the real deal and he was like "Oh, really?".

The tape of him doing his pre-match promo is creepy to me. When I watch it, I keep thinking "This man is just moments from his death and he doesn't know it". Blows my mind.

[Hitman84]

A number of weeks ago there was a thread in this forum by MiguelBahena, who had found a picture, doctored by someone on the internet, that was basically taking the piss out of Owen's death. It made me sick to my stomach.

I have never seen the infamous Over the Edge PPV, nor do I want to out of respect for Owen Hart's memory. If a video of the fall did indeed exist, I don't think I could watch it.

That is all.

[Disturbed316]

any time i've tried to get that it's either a wired cartoon of a deer or some shite Usama bin Laden comedy sketch

Yeah, thats exactly what I got. I saw a site awhile which had photo's of Owen lying in the ring after the fall, but I just cant look at them now.

[YOUR Hero]

The fall, no, but the aftermath with Owen in the ring, him being attended and taken away is available.

[RockNRoll]

My question is why would Owen do a stunt such as the one he did while everyone was distracted and while the cameras weren't on him??

What was the point of doing it?

[Dave Youell]

My question is why would Owen do a stunt such as the one he did while everyone was distracted and while the cameras weren't on him??

What was the point of doing it?
The same could be said for why did Shawn come down from the rafters at Mania 12

Why did sting used to come from the ceiling.

Becuase they thought they were safe

[RockNRoll]

The same could be said for why did Shawn come down from the rafters at Mania 12

Why did sting used to come from the ceiling.

Becuase they thought they were safe

No, TerranRich said that everyone's attention was on the big screen and that no cameras were on Owen. Why do a stunt that no one is going to see???

[Kane Knight]

My question is why would Owen do a stunt such as the one he did while everyone was distracted and while the cameras weren't on him??

What was the point of doing it?
He wasn't supposed to plummet like that. As you probably know, he was in a gimmick where he was the "Blue Blazer" and the idea wasn't for him to just drop. As you can see, it's been done with other people, safely. However, you fall a lot faster without a properly working setup.

[Loose Cannon]

No, he fell just before the cameras would of gone on him.

[Shaggy]

My question is why would Owen do a stunt such as the one he did while everyone was distracted and while the cameras weren't on him??

What was the point of doing it?

While everyone was looking at the screen Owen Hart (R.I.P) was being strapped into the harness. After the video would of shown his entrance music would of hit and he would of then been lowered down where he would of taken on the Godfather.

He wasnt gonna lower while everyone was lookin away. He simply was getting into his harness when everything went wrong.

R.I.P Owen

[RockNRoll]

While everyone was looking at the screen Owen Hart (R.I.P) was being strapped into the harness. After the video would of shown his entrance music would of hit and he would of then been lowered down where he would of taken on the Godfather.

He wasnt gonna lower while everyone was lookin away. He simply was getting into his harness when everything went wrong.

R.I.P Owen

Ok, so he wasn't being lowered at the time of his fall. He fell while he was preparing himself to be lowered.

[dalegendkilla]

Poor Owen Hart R.I.P. Has that stunt he tried ever been attempted again?

[Hitman84]

I don't think it has, but I do remember reading somewhere that shortly after Owen's death, possibly on the memorial show where Bret Hart fought Chris Benoit, Sting said that he wouldn't do his rafters entrance if Bret thought it inappropriate. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Rob]

Never saw it and never want to. The night he died was seriously one of the saddest times of my life.

I think Sting did do the entrance thing again at least once.

[alvarado52]

nah, i think at that point, anyone and everyone stopped doing that, including Sting. Even now im sure its unsettling to even consider such a stunt

[alvarado52]

on a side note, and i dont mean to fuel this threat at all, but Pro Wrestling Torrents has a torrent vid of the footage AFTER the fall, nothing graphic or special, just very very depressing. I didnt download it, cuz i was watching that PPV with a bunch of friends the day it happened, that was nuts. RIP Owen

[Evolution]

Let's not forget almost a year to the day later in the same arena, some WCW wrestler was thrown off the Triple Cage and crashed through the ramp. The PPV went off without the guy getting up.

And the guy who got thrown wasn't part of the match, neither was the guy who through him. Seems like they did it for the sake of it.

Oh, and I got the Bin Laden skit as well. I was like :|

[Zen v.W.o.]

on a side note, and i dont mean to fuel this threat at all, but Pro Wrestling Torrents has a torrent vid of the footage AFTER the fall, nothing graphic or special, just very very depressing. I didnt download it, cuz i was watching that PPV with a bunch of friends the day it happened, that was nuts. RIP Owen

That's the footage I'm talking about. It's about 9 minutes in lenght, and is taken directly from the ppv, some dude obviously had taped the ppv and uploaded it.
Still, all you see are vignettes, and JR talking about what just happened. "This is not a stunt, nor an angle..this is as real as real can get"..etc..The ending of the video shows King come back to the booth and says it doesnt look good. Then you hear the crowd applauding as they take Owen away..and they scoot over to a backstage interview with Kelly, Jarett and Debra. The end of the clip. I saw it, as it was posted somewhere else.
Not once are the cameras ever on the ring. JR said they would not use this, or like take advantage of it..it's not good to see.

I agree.

Oh yeah, also in an interview, Bret once said HBK had told him he was scared himself to do his WM 12 stunt from the roof. Wrestlers are not particularly fond of being propelled from super high places.

[Savio]

Yeah, Thats the second to last PPV I saw at my brothers friends house. I think they show him starting to come down in it but then cut away quickly. Then they show another promo and JR said before it "...ummm uh Right now we'll show you a promo The blue blazer said earlier in the night and we got a situtation out here folks."

[Gone Mad]

I'll never forget that night. I was at my brother's house, ready to see the PPV. As soon as I come back to watch it after dinner, the show was delayed but comes back to a Road Dogg match I believe, or D'lo, not too sure. I had no idea what happened until they showed no replay or never a mention of Owen.

I don't ever want to see that footage (whether there is or isn't) as much as there is some curiousity in me. He was my favorite wrestler and what got me into wrestling, it hurt me so much and still does.

[Innovator]

When they announced he fell I was holding his action figure in my hand....pretty creepy.

Like others here, I don't want to ever see that video.

[YOUR Hero]

I think they show him starting to come down in it but then cut away quickly. [...]
No, they did not.

[YOUR Hero]

Ok, so he wasn't being lowered at the time of his fall. He fell while he was preparing himself to be lowered.
Correct

[YOUR Hero]

Poor Owen Hart R.I.P. Has that stunt he tried ever been attempted again?
Sting did it at least one more time. I recall it very well. I got mad about it.

[YOUR Hero]

That's the footage I'm talking about. It's about 9 minutes in lenght, and is taken directly from the ppv, some dude obviously had taped the ppv and uploaded it.
Still, all you see are vignettes, and JR talking about what just happened. "This is not a stunt, nor an angle..this is as real as real can get"..etc..The ending of the video shows King come back to the booth and says it doesnt look good. Then you hear the crowd applauding as they take Owen away..and they scoot over to a backstage interview with Kelly, Jarett and Debra. The end of the clip. I saw it, as it was posted somewhere else.
Not once are the cameras ever on the ring. JR said they would not use this, or like take advantage of it..it's not good to see.

I agree.

Oh yeah, also in an interview, Bret once said HBK had told him he was scared himself to do his WM 12 stunt from the roof. Wrestlers are not particularly fond of being propelled from super high places.
Yup.
King had run down to the ring to render aid. If I recall correctly, they opened up Owens chest right there in the ring and massaged his heart. (that isn't videotaped)

[tucsonspeed6]

It's just scarey....I hate thinking about it.

[Kane Knight]

Sting did it at least one more time. I recall it very well. I got mad about it.
I'm pretty sure it was more than once more, too.

I'm less bothered by Sting doing it (in a different company) than the lack of safety within the WWE. People have made it clear that the WWE/F is a dog eat dog business, and even if Owen had turned down the push, someone else would have been up there and almost certainly died.

[olympic hitman]

Why would anyone want to watch footage of someone plummeting to their death? Call it "curiousity" or anything you want, but, I call it sick. I understand, people want answers for what happened. But, how would watching the video help?

I remember the night after Owen died[and the whole day before] all anyone talked about was Owen dying at the PPV[Over The Edge]. Even non-wrestling fans were interesting in talking about it[which I found to be odd, but, a nice compliment to Owen's memory]. RIP Owen.... :( .

And as for the Sting thing, I'm not sure if he actually did the rafters entrance after or not. I know shortly after the Owen ordeal, Sting quit doing that entrance altogether[as any sane person would]. I never knew that Owen fell while being strapped in though. I always thought it was during his decent down after being strapped in that he actually fell, guess you learn something new everyday.

[Stickman]

I think a tape is somewhere, or was destroyed by the WWE before it got out. I mean, don't they always have one camera high up facing the ring for every show and it's on at all times?

[Marcyo]

I'm not trying to get attention or anything, but i seriously think I have seen Owen Hart falling. I'll try to find that video, maybe it's still on my computer somewhere.

[YOUR Hero]

[...]

And as for the Sting thing, I'm not sure if he actually did the rafters entrance after or not. [...]
I said he did. I know he did. How many times is really the only questionable thing.


Kane Because Sting's gimmick was all about that at the time, I can somewhat understand it, but it still made me upset.

[Marcyo]

Why would anyone want to watch footage of someone plummeting to their death? Call it "curiousity" or anything you want, but, I call it sick. I understand, people want answers for what happened. But, how would watching the video help?

I gotta admit, this is true. However, I don't know why, but i don't mind watching that vid.

Not that I'm glad that Owen died or anything. Absolutely not. But I guess curiousity has got me. :$

[Savio]

No, they did not.It may have been part of a promo package.

[BatistaBomb]

if you read foleys book he tells in it that owen was already strapped in and his cape got caught in it and when he pulled his cape out the cable released and owen fell

[Savio]

Imagine if they did get it you know how sick that'd be. I'm guessing they'd play his music while the cameras are on the ring and it'd be one of those far away cameras at first to catch his intial flying time. But when your at that angle you just see someone fall and hit the turn buckle. that'd be horrific.

[Kane Knight]

It may have been part of a promo package.
Yeah, nothing says a strong promo like a guy DYING. :|

[Kane Knight]

if you read foleys book he tells in it that owen was already strapped in and his cape got caught in it and when he pulled his cape out the cable released and owen fell
Which is one of like 8 versions I've heard from "official" sources.

[The Highlander]

Does anybody drive by your house or work or yell at you while you're walking down the street, that "Owen Hart can't fly!" and "Whoooo, Blue Blazer!"? I've had to hear it for six years. Sick sons of bitches.

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah, nothing says a strong promo like a guy DYING. :|
Can you believe this guy, Kane?

[YOUR Hero]

Does anybody drive by your house or work or yell at you while you're walking down the street, that "Owen Hart can't fly!" and "Whoooo, Blue Blazer!"? I've had to hear it for six years. Sick sons of bitches.
OK, I'll bite...



Why would 'they' do this to you?

[The Highlander]

They are people I went to school with, and I cried the day after he died. They mainly do it to get under my skin.

[James Steele]

Well, they are immature little pricks aren't they.

Just run them over then drop them off a bridge, only let them live. Then whever you see them yell "YOU CAN'T FLY" and etc.

[Shadow]

If anyone had the video of Owen dieing...they should be killed for being really sick fucks.

[Kane Knight]

Can you believe this guy, Kane?
Sad thing is, I could see it being done.

Scary as it seems, this shit seems to get attention. Just look at the number of people who tried to DL it.

[Corkscrewed]

I remember something about WCW or WWE doing a lowering from the rafters stunt AT THE SAME KC ARENA a year or several years later, and there was a lot of heat from that, right?

Just a side comment... don't know if i remember correctly.

[Kane Knight]

I remember something about WCW or WWE doing a lowering from the rafters stunt AT THE SAME KC ARENA a year or several years later, and there was a lot of heat from that, right?

Just a side comment... don't know if i remember correctly.
i Think I remember that. Vaguely.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

sorry to bump the thread, but i thought this link might help clear up a few things. http://homepage.mac.com/knarley/owenhart/owen.html

on a side note, what wouldmof happened if he had just landed in the ring? i find it quite a freakish coincidence that he landed in line with the turnbuckle

[Xero]

sorry to bump the thread, but i thought this link might help clear up a few things. http://homepage.mac.com/knarley/owenhart/owen.html

on a side note, what wouldmof happened if he had just landed in the ring? i find it quite a freakish coincidence that he landed in line with the turnbuckle
I read that before, and looked at it again. It puts a horrible feeling on me.

If he had fallen in the ring, I believe he would have survived at least a bit longer, because I believe he broke his neck on the turnbuckle. It may not have been fatal if he had fallen into the ring.

[Gonzo]

I was watching this PPV when it happened. I never looked into it after that. I was shocked. My jaw just dropped and I couldn't believe what had happened.

[Kane Knight]

sorry to bump the thread, but i thought this link might help clear up a few things. http://homepage.mac.com/knarley/owenhart/owen.html

on a side note, what wouldmof happened if he had just landed in the ring? i find it quite a freakish coincidence that he landed in line with the turnbuckle
A foot one way, it could have been less than lethal. He'd likely still be crippled, but he'd have survived.

A foot the other, and he would have been even worse of a stain. Remember, he could have hit the outside as easily as the ring.

However, the way he came in was a rpetty dangerous approach, and even the softer mat might not have saved his life.

[M. Banana]

I find it "freakish" that the PPV was called "Over The Edge"

[Gonzo]

Yeah, I hadn't noticed that before. :(

[M. Banana]

I wasn't watching wrestling at the time, but I had known who Owen was from the IN YOUR HOUSE video games for PS1.

[Aussie Skier]

Basicallythe1 thing idon't understand about Owen Hart's death is how it could actuallyhave happened.


i mean,pplgo rockclimbing etc... all the time, and nothing ever really happens to them. pplgo sky diving,bungeejumping, etc... andvery rarely are there incidents that occur.

frankly...it makes nosense 2 me as 2how this could happen!

[M. Banana]

Spaces man, spaces.

[M. Banana]

Basicallythe1 thing idon't understand about Owen Hart's death is how it could actuallyhave happened.


i mean,pplgo rockclimbing etc... all the time, and nothing ever really happens to them. pplgo sky diving,bungeejumping, etc... andvery rarely are there incidents that occur.

frankly...it makes nosense 2 me as 2how this could happen!

There's the element of chaos, my good man. Anything could happen. No matter how much you prepare. I could get all my safety equipment, go out, go rock climing, and something like the rope could snap. It's just something you can't control.

[Aussie Skier]

I remember something about WCW or WWE doing a lowering from the rafters stunt AT THE SAME KC ARENA a year or several years later, and there was a lot of heat from that, right?

Just a side comment... don't know if i remember correctly.


heidenreich read a poem from the fist of the smackdown setthis year in thekemper arena
:nono:

[Xero]

Holy shit, that was at Kemper!? :nono:

Granted, it's not as great of a height, but God, that must have brought back bad memories for some in attendance that night and when Owen passed.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

- In the early months of spring in 1999, Jeff Jarrett and Owen Hart had been building a reputation as a strong tag team, with Debra as their manager. Management had planned the team to eventually split up, and Owen begin to lust after Debra, infuriating Jarrett, which would in turn plant the seeds for a bitter and very personal feud.

Owen, happily married in real life, didn't want his young children to see him cheating on his wife every Monday night, so he outright refused the angle. It was an honorable, if stubborn decision.
The result, was that Owen was saddled with the Blue Blazer gimmick. It was a persona he'd donned early in his career as a glorified jobber, and one he was forced to revisit. It was punishment for declining a well thought out angle, orchestrated to humiliate Owen, who has to don a superhero persona and spend much of his time mimicking the wrestlers in WCW.

While staring as the Blue Blazer, Owen Hart's talents were still obvious. And at "Over the Edge" 1999, he was booked to win the WWF Intercontinental Title. After that, Owen was booked to break free of the Blue Blazer gimmick, and would go onto be called "The Game", and enter into a program with Edge.-

I fond this in an article on the link i posted. I think its quite sad that the whole gimmick was a punishment. And on top of that, it seems like HHH's nickname is some kind of tribute

[Zen v.W.o.]

I always hated the fact they saddled Owen with that gimmick again. That may all be well for a guy like the hurricane, but Owen is the fucking man in the ring. That's an insult.

I could have seen Owen as "the game". He could certainly back it up in the ring better then practically anybody else, that is for damn sure.

Owen and Edge in a program? Hot shit right there, would have liked to see it.

[NoRoolz]

I remember hearing it on the news the next morning, I was only like 9 and I was so upset. Owen would be main-eventing for sure. R.I.P Owen

[Amaroqwolf]

I remember hearing about this, I was watching wrestling at the time but watched more WCW then the WWE/F. The one thing that pissed me off more then anything was what Mancow said. (Radio guy out here where I live) I think I was in my Sophmore year when it happened and My mom was driving me to school and he stated and I quote.

"This is all a gig, I bet you [[Turd]] One year from now that Owen Hart fellow will show up again"

"Yeah, they'll probably have a Coffin in the ring as a tribute thing and He'll hop out dressed as the Gobiltty Gook."

I got so pissed off I stared ranting about how disrespectful that was. I also remeber about 6-8 months later another wrestler was on the show don't remember who it was clearly but in the last minutes of the show the wrestler states.

"Hey, remember that shit you said about Owen Hart?"

"Yeah, that was some funny shit wasn't it [[Turd]]?"

The wrestler then commenced to hit Mancow and try to beat the shit out of him.

[The CyNick]

I have the tape of the PPV itself.

Ive never watched it since the night of the show.

[The Outlaw]

Anyone that wants to see it are some sick freaks.

Also Savior shut the hell up.

[Ninti the Mad]

This thread brings back sad memories.

RIP

:/

[RockNRoll]

If anyone had the video of Owen dieing...they should be killed for being really sick fucks.

Wow, don't you think that's a little harsh? What about people who have a video of the Kennedy assassination? Do they deserve to die as well? What about people who have a video of the planes hitting the World Trade Center? Death to those people as well?

[Ninti the Mad]

I think he meant those who want to see it.

He's probably too retarded to make sense.

[RockNRoll]

I find it "freakish" that the PPV was called "Over The Edge"

*Ironic

[RockNRoll]

I think he meant those who want to see it.

He's probably too retarded to make sense.

Even if he's talking about people who want to see it, he's being harsh. I mean, come on. Wanting to see the video is not the same as being glad that he died.

[Gertner]

i could have sworn seeing it at one time. i remember him falling and smacking his head off the turnbuckle i beleive. then again, I could have just imagined this, but I sware I saw some footage of this.

[Xero]

I just went through my tapes and found the RAW after he fell. Man, it's a really sad thing to watch, but all of the stories and stuff were great. The end where Austin toasts him one last time really got me.

[Disturbed316]

I remember something about WCW or WWE doing a lowering from the rafters stunt AT THE SAME KC ARENA a year or several years later, and there was a lot of heat from that, right?

Just a side comment... don't know if i remember correctly.

Sting vs Vampiro Inferno match at some WCW PPV. They climbed up onto the titantron and Stunt Sting took a fall 44ft down or something. Aparantly the stunt guy got hurt doing it.

[Cuzziebro]

Yeah, I downloaded it. It's just some extreme stunt from some indy fed. I sent the guy I downloaded it from a message telling him that it wasn't the real deal and he was like "Oh, really?".

The tape of him doing his pre-match promo is creepy to me. When I watch it, I keep thinking "This man is just moments from his death and he doesn't know it". Blows my mind.

Hi, I was wondering if you could post the interview before 'the inceidnt'. I have seen it but not for a while. Thanks

[RockNRoll]

Hi, I was wondering if you could post the interview before 'the inceidnt'. I have seen it but not for a while. Thanks

Here you go. All I ask in return is for you to post the 1987 Slammy Awards.

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IQQDDAYAGHZO3RTKQARZ8885U


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[RockNRoll]

JR's announcement of Owen Hart's death

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17FXD8KT264721FLXAXQ21O8W4


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[Cuzziebro]

Thanks

[RockNRoll]

You're welcome.

[Cuzziebro]

Do you have any other blue blazer videos? Or wrestlers talking about the Blue Blazer? If so please post.

[V]

Here you go. All I ask in return is for you to post the 1987 Slammy Awards.

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IQQDDAYAGHZO3RTKQARZ8885U


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ugh... it's horrible watching what he's saying knowing what's gonna happen


also was the thing done in HCTP similar to it? Why would they put that in HCTP, I always thought it was a little disrespectful but just assumed that it was something a bit different from what Owen (R.I.P.) was gonna do.

clip of what i'm talking about:
http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2M48QQKPKDP1G11DRMZ2DGEIY4

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

no, the wrestlemania entrance in HCTP is mimicking HBK's entance from WM 12. Owen was due to come straight down vercticaly, whereas HBK came diagonally from the titantron area

[V]

ya i knew it was HBK's entrance, but someone mentioned HBK telling Bret he was afraid to do that entrance in this thread so I thought they were somehow related

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Point taken, but THQ probably didn't know about this and were just innocently mimicking a 'Wrestlemania Moment'