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wrestlingking
05-15-2005, 07:28 PM
I didnt see one made so I put it up and since I had nothing better to do I orded the PPV and I'll update with results tonight if no one is doing so.

The Card:
NWA Heavyweight Title
Guest Ref:Tito Ortiz
Champion Jeff Jarrett Vs Aj Styles

20 Man Gauntlet Match
Winner Become 31 Contender for The NWA Heavyweight Title

X DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH:
The Fallen Angel Christopher Daniels vs. Shocker

NWA WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
The Naturals vs. America’s Most Wanted

THE RETURN OF RAVEN'S HOUSE OF FUN MATCH
Raven vs. The Charismatic Enigma - Jeff Hardy

Diamond Dallas Page and BG James vs. The Alpha Male Monty Brown and The Outlaw

MIXED TAG TEAM MATCH
Chris Sabin & Traci vs. Michael Shane & Trinity

Team Canada vs. Apolo and Sonny Siaki

SammyG
05-15-2005, 07:45 PM
Thanks for making one, i was about to make one. I'll do some play by play for a while if my connection doesnt go out, its storming pretty bad right now

SammyG
05-15-2005, 07:56 PM
- Here is what took place on the Pre-PPV Countdown show before Hard Justice went on the air:

* The promo for Hard Justice airs.

* We go live to Orlando, FL at Universal Studios as Jeremy Borash and Don West welcome us. They discuss the NWA World Title Match tonight between Jeff Jarrett and AJ Styles with former UFC Champion Tito Ortiz as the special guest referee. Mike Tenay joins them as well and gives his thoughts on Ortiz being brought in for the match as the special enforcer.

* A video of Tito Ortiz is shown of him talking about his love of pro wrestling, his time in UFC, on coming to TNA, the NWA World Heavyweight Title and its past champions, thoughts on AJ Styles & Jeff Jarrett and bringing "hard justice" to the main event tonight.

* The Hard Justice promo airs again.

* We are back live in Orlando, FL. Jeremy Borash and Don West run down the rest of the card tonight including a 20 Superstar Guantlet for the Gold and Christopher Daniels defending the X Division Title against Shocker.

* A promo airs hyping the X Division Championship Match tonight between champion Christopher Daniels and Shocker.

* We are back live and both Mike Tenay & Don West talk about The Naturals defending the NWA World Tag Team Titles against America's Most Wanted.

* Shark Boy defeated David Young with a Deep Sea Drop from the corner. Shark Boy will advance to the 20 Superstar Guantlet for the Gold later tonight.

* The well done AJ Styles video package airs.

* Backstage, Terry Taylor is with NWA World Champion Jeff Jarrett. Taylor asks if history will be made tonight, will AJ Styles win the NWA World Title. Jarrett says on the surface, it appears 2 vs. 1 with Tito Ortiz involved. He says to a king of the mountain, it is a completely different story. Jarrett lists Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy and DDP as a few he has survived against. He said he admires Ortiz for not caring about anyone but himself. Jarrett tells AJ that he is walking in the champion and walking out the champion. He then leaves to go look for Ortiz's locker room.

* Jeremy Borash & Don West hype the card for tonight. They announced Sean Waltman would be replacing Jeff Hardy tonight in the House of Fun Match against Raven. We are going live next on pay per view!

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:04 PM
- The PPV opens with a 10-bell salute to Chris Candido. A shot of a steel chair is shown in the ring with a picture of Candido, a towel and one of the NWA World Tag Team Championship belts.

- The TNA promo hits. Following this, a well done promo is shown hyping the event tonight with glimpses of all the TNA superstars involved tonight. The opening PPV graphics hit followed by the Hard Justice graphic covering the screen. We are taken live to Orlando, FL. A series of pyro goes off in the entrance way as well as inside the ring on all four corners.

- Mike Tenay & Don West welcome us to the show. Team Canada's music hits to start off the show. That tag team match is up next!

Team Canada vs. Apolo & Sonny Siaki is up next!

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:07 PM
Team Canada w/ Scott D'Amore vs. Apolo & Sonny Siaki
The match starts right away with all four men brawling. Apolo and Siaki take out Team Canada first, taking out Petey Williams and Eric Young separately. Williams and Young roll out of the ring to slow things down. Williams comes back in first. Siaki exits, leaving Apolo and Williams. They lock up and Apolo pushes Williams to the corner quickly. Williams goes for a big boot, but Apolo doesn't budge. Apolo gives Williams a big right "bitch" slap, covers, but only gets a two count. Siaki and Apolo double team Williams and Siaki gets the tag, applying an armbar to Williams. Williams gives Siaki a knee to the gut, drop toe hold and then tags in Eric Young. Siaki takes down Young with two dropkicks and follows those up with a swinging neckbreaker for a two count. Siaki chops Young a few times and tags in Apolo. Siaki and Apolo give Young a big back body drop. Apolo picks up Young and gives him some big chops. Apolo knocks Young to the outside. Williams jumps over the top rope and drops a modified leg over the back of Apolo's neck. Williams gets the tag and starts to give Apolo some hard lefts and rights. Williams chokes Apolo in the ring and then chokes him using the second rope. Scott D'Amore gets in a cheap shot on Apolo. Young gets the tag and he starts kicking Apolo against the head and chest. Young gives Apolo a scoop slam, drops an elbow, covers, but only gets a two count

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:16 PM
Apolo fights back with a few chops, but Young prevents anymore. Apolo then takes out Young with a huge superkick. Williams and Siaki both get the tag. Siaki takes out Williams with two clothesline and takes out Young with a samoan drop. Siaki takes out Williams with a big powerslam, but Young breaks up the pin attempt. Siaki tries to suplex Williams in the ring, but when he falls back D'Amore holds his legs allowing Williams to fall on his chest into a pin for a two count. Apolo spears Young in the other part of the ring. Siaki recovers, puts Williams up on the top rope, Williams kicks Siaki off the top, Williams jumps off, Apolo charges and Williams takes out Apolo with a huricanranna. Siaki gets up, Williams looks to go for the Canadian Destroyer, Siaki counters into a modified neckbreaker, covers, but A-1 comes in the ring and gives Siaki a big suplex while the refereee is distracted by D'Amore. A-1 puts Williams on top of Siaki, leaves the ring, the referee turns around and makes the count giving Team Canada the win.

Winners: Team Canada

- We are shown video from earlier today of Tito Ortiz arriving in a limo. We are also shown video of AJ Styles and Jeff Jarrett arriving to Orlando as well.

- We are back live in Orlando, FL with Mike Tenay & Don West. They discuss the NWA World Title main event later tonight between champion Jeff Jarrett and AJ Styles with Tito Ortiz as the special guest referee

---> Up next is Michael Shane & Trinity vs. Chris Sabin & Traci in a Mixed Tag Team Match.

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:20 PM
Mixed Tag Team Match
Michael Shane & Trinity vs. Chris Sabin & Traci
The match starts with Trinity and Traci. Trinity slaps Traci and Traci then chases her outside of the ring. When Trinity gets back in, Michael Shane cuts her off as he got tagged in by Trinity. Chris Sabin gets the tag from Traci and he goes after Shane right away. Sabin gives Shane a big huricanranna for a two count. Shane rolls out of the ring as Traci tosses Trinity back inside. Traci rolls up Trinity for a two count. Both roll around the ring in pin attempts with Traci getting the pin for another two count. Traci gives Trinity a monkey flip from the corner. Trinity fights back with a springboard cross-body for a two count. Trinity goes for a moonsault, but Traci rolls out of the way. Shane gets the tag and he confronts Traci. Sabin jumps in and takes out Shane with a big dropkick. Sabin attempts a Cradle Shock, Shane counters out of it and Sabin comes back with a big superkick. Sabin goes up to the top, but Shane jumps up with him and superplexes him off. Shane then chokes Sabin on the second rope and gets in the referees face. Trinity then starts to choke out Sabin as well with the referee distracted. Trinity holds Sabin, Shane almost punches Trinity but stops, but Trinity trips up Sabin when he goes off the ropes.

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:24 PM
doesnt seem anyone is really viewing this thread

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:27 PM
Trinity then takes out Sabin with a dropkick from the top. Shane applies a sleeper on Sabin as the referee looks on. Sabin tries to fight out of it and go off the ropes, but Shane pulls him back down by his hair and applies a reverse chinlock. Sabin fights back with some elbows and right hands. Shane stops any more offense from Sabin with a knee to the gut. Sabin catches Shane with an elbow to the face. Shane counters a tornado DDT from Sabin, but Sabin fights back with a kick to the back of the head on Shane. Trinity and Traci get the tag. Traci chops Trinity a few times and then takes her out with a clothesline. Traci gives Trinity a boot to the face and then drives her face into the mat. Traci covers, but only gets a two count. Traci goes up to the top holding Trinity's hair. Trinity counters tossing her off to the outside. Trinity comes out with Traci and starts to chop her on the ramp. Trinity nails Traci's face off the ramp and then pushes her back up. Trinity gives Traci a scoop slam on the ramp. As Trinity backs up, she backs into Sabin. Sabin turns around and takes out Shane. Sabin then springboards off the top rope and takes out Shane.

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:32 PM
I think im gonna stop doin this..

James Steele
05-15-2005, 08:36 PM
Dude, I just wanna know if Jarrett is going to put the final nail in the coffin for TNA tonight. I promise you this. If Jarrett retains tonight, TNA will be dead by the end of year.

Oh, and I would rather you just post who wins and how (pinfall after ??? move, etc.)

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:37 PM
Trinity goes up to the top looking to hit a huricanranna on Traci, but Sabin comes in pushing her away and takes the huricanranna himself. Shane and Trinity try to double-team Sabin, but Sabin takes out Shane and gets in the face of Trinity. He grabs her by the hair and Traci comes in giving Sabin a low blow! Shane then superkicks Trinity and does the same to Sabin! Shane covers Sabin and gets the pinfall. Tenay and West say it was all a set up from the beginning.

Winners: Michael Shane & Trinity

After the match, Michael Shane and Traci celebrate after they fooled everyone and took out Chris Sabin and Trinity.

- Back at ringside, Mike Tenay & Don West talk about how they have been in Orlando for a year now and are coming up on the three year anniversary next month, June 19, for the Slammiversary PPV. The promo for Slammiversary airs.

- Backstage, Terry Taylor is with Team Canada. Scott D'Amore said he is proud of his boys. Petey Williams gets on the mic saying that Team Canada is back on track and will once again establish their domination in TNA. D'Amore said Team Canada would dominate the 20 Superstar Guantlet for the Gold later tonight. Booby Roode said Team Canada are like a pack of wolves...they attack as a pack and dominate as a pack. Roode said it is the biased American officials in TNA that made him the #1 entrant into the Guantlet tonight. Taylor shows Roode who the #2 entrant is for the Guantlet. They laugh at who it is.

- Backstage, Tito Ortiz comes into Dusty Rhodes' office. Rhodes said it is an honor for him to be here tonight. He gives Ortiz a referee shirt and wants things done right tonight. Rhodes said his goal was to always bring him in and warns him of Jarrett's past actions in TNA. He said he wants Ortiz to call it down the middle tonight. Ortiz promises he will and walks away.

- Backstage, Terry Taylor is with Raven and reminds him that Jeff Hardy isn't here and that Sean Waltman would replace him. Raven calls Hardy a coward for not showing up tonight. He refers to Waltman as "X-Pac", saying he wasn't a worthy replacement. Raven said he just saw what Dusty Rhodes said about Ortiz being a big star. He said he is a bigger star than Ortiz and mocks Team Canada's notion of domination. Raven said he would hurt "X-Pac" tonight because he is a human cancer

---> Up next is the Raven House of Fun Match between Raven and Sean Waltman who will be replacing Jeff Hardy.

James Steele
05-15-2005, 08:39 PM
Why is Hardy not wrestling?

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:43 PM
Raven's House of Fun Match
Raven vs. Sean Waltman
The match starts with Waltman coming out to the ring from the "heel" ramp to catch Raven off guard. Waltman takes out Raven with a trash can and Raven falls to the outside. Waltman chops Raven on the outside and then slams him against one of the cage fences. Raven is busted open at this point and Waltman drop toe holds him onto another trash can face first. Waltman starts to choke Raven with his boot in the corner. Waltman looks to go for the Bronco Buster, but Raven counters hitting him with the trash can. Raven grabs another trash can and nails Waltman in the head with it. Raven then digs his fingers into the forehead/eyes of Waltman on the outside and then drags his face across the cage fence. Waltman fights back with a chop, but Raven catches him with a boot to the face. Raven grabs Waltman and throws him against the steel steps. Raven throws Waltman back inside as we see Waltman has been busted open. Raven grabs a few trash can lids and nails Waltman in the head a few times with it. When Waltman gets up, Raven uses both trash can lids to nail Waltman in the head at the same time. Raven props a trash can in the corner, tries to irish whip Waltman, but Waltman counters and irish whips Raven into it instead. Raven then applies an ankle lock and Waltman kicks out of it quickly. Raven kicks Waltman on the head and grabs a steel chair. Raven sets it up, sends Waltman into the ropes, Waltman dodges the drop toe hold attempt and throws the chair into Raven. Waltman takes out Raven with a spin kick followed by a Bronco Buster in the corner

Loose Cannon
05-15-2005, 08:44 PM
I'm viewing it. Good work Sammy

Innovator
05-15-2005, 08:48 PM
Good stuff by Waltman and Raven pretty much on the fly

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:53 PM
Raven kicks Waltman on the head and grabs a steel chair. Raven sets it up, sends Waltman into the ropes, Waltman dodges the drop toe hold attempt and throws the chair into Raven. Waltman takes out Raven with a spin kick followed by a Bronco Buster in the corner. Waltman kicks Raven in the gut and hits a facebuster. Raven rolls to the outside and Waltman follows. Waltman sets up a table and puts Raven on top. Waltman gives Raven some hard rights and then goes up to the top rope inching through the two polls holding up the weapons. Waltman flips off and crashes through the table on top of Raven. The referee makes the count, but Waltman only gets a two count. Raven gets back in the ring with Waltman and gives him a quick Evenflow DDT. Raven covers...1...2...Waltman kicks out. Raven then grabs Waltman and drags him by the head up the ramp. Raven throws Waltman off the ramp into the area below, allowing Waltman to crash through a table. Raven jumps off, covers, a referee comes over...1...2...Waltman somehow kicks out. Raven picks up Waltman and drags him back to the ringside area. Raven searches for some weapons under the ring and gets some handcuffs. Raven handcuffs Waltman around the ring post and then grabs a kendo stick and staple gun.

SammyG
05-15-2005, 08:56 PM
Thanks for the rep LC

Innovator
05-15-2005, 09:30 PM
Awesome Naturals/AMW match, lot of Candido chants

crash99
05-15-2005, 09:45 PM
Its really a good job by TNA to do all the tributes for Candido and dedicate the show to him...and really good job Sammy

crash99
05-15-2005, 09:46 PM
Its really a good job by TNA to do all the tributes for Candido and dedicate the show to him...and really good job Sammy... :y:

Ruien
05-15-2005, 10:02 PM
Wait, wasnt this the one where BG James was going against the Enforcer or something? Sorry I only catch TNA from time to time, but I liked that angle. I know it was a simple and WWF angle, but that is why I liked it.

SammyG
05-15-2005, 10:07 PM
wtf? zach gowen in the 20 man battle royal match! he just got eliminated.
ddp and killings lost their match to brown and mr.ass
great naturals amw match, naturals win
christopher daniels retains

SammyG
05-15-2005, 10:08 PM
20 Superstar Guantlet for the Gold
The winner will become the #1 contender for the NWA World Title
The first two entrants come out to the ring: Team Canada's Booby Roode and former WWE star Zach Gowen. The clock starts to run as Gowen takes off his fake leg and hands it to the referee. Gowen takes out Roode a few times and ends it with an inverted DDT. Gowen hits a moonsault as the clock runs down. Time expires and out next is Eric Young. Roode starts to kick Gowen in the corner. Roode spins Gowen around in the ring and Young follows that up with some stiff kicks to the chest. Young chokes Gowen on the ground as time expires. Out next is Cassidy Reily. Reily takes out both Roode and Young. Reily splashes Roode in the corner and Gowen follows that up with a dropkick. Young and Reily exchange punches in the corner as time expires. Out next is Elix Skipper. Skipper flips in and clotheslines Young. Roode takes out Skipper, but Skipper responds with a springboard moonsault. Young tries to attack Skipper, but Reily cuts him off. Time expires and out next is Shark Boy. Shark Boy goes after Roode and Young. Shark Boy dropkicks Roode and drops Young in a neckbreaker. Shark Boy then bites Gowen on the ass and sends him over the top rope.

Zach Gowen has been eliminated.

Time expires and out next is A-1. They note out Team Canada's number in the match has increased. A-1 takes out Reily and Skipper with big clotheslines. A-1 tries to toss Reily out of the ring, but Reily holds on. Time expires and out next is Chris Sabin. Sabin takes out Roode with a big tornado DDT while kicking everyone around him as he was spinning in the air! Sabin chops A-1 and tries to send him over the top. Time expires and out next is Petey Williams. Shark Boy goes after Williams and tosses him to the ring apron. Williams holds the second rope as A-1 tosses Shark Boy over the top rope.

Shark Boy has been eliminated.

Casidy Reily then gets pulled to the outside by Eric Young using a head scissors.

Casidy Reily has been eliminated.

Time expires and out next is Sonny Siaki. Siaki takes out Young with a big clothesline and goes after A-1 in the corner. Skipper puts Williams up on the top rope, walks across the ropes, but Roode breaks it up and Skipper falls to the mat. Roode then clotheslines Skipper over the top rope.

Elix Skipper has been eliminated.

Time expires and out next is Lance Hoyt. Hoyt lifts up Young and throws him over the top rope.

Eric Young has been eliminated.

Sabin throws Williams through the ropes, but Williams holds on. Sabin hits a sliding dropkick as time expires. Out next is Michael Shane. Shane superkicks Hoyt and then goes after A-1. Sabin then clotheslines Shane to the outside and goes along for the ride.

Michael Shane has been eliminated.
Chris Sabin has been elminated.

Moments later, Siaki gets tossed out.

Sonny Siaki has been eliminated.

Time expires and out next is Jerrelle Clark. Clark takes out A-1 with a big spin off the ropes.

The Answer
05-15-2005, 10:34 PM
One hell of a Canadian destroyer by Petey Williams. I missed some of it but Abyss and Killings were the last two and Abyss beat Killings with a bossman slam. Road Dogg aka B.J james came in 19th but I don't know what happened between him and Billy Gunn aka The Outlaw. Just know their were alot of eliminations when James came in including three members of Team Canada.

The Answer
05-15-2005, 10:41 PM
Tito Ortiz is laying down the law. The guitar is broken by A.J styles it is out of play.

Innovator
05-15-2005, 10:49 PM
YES! AJ STYLES NEW CHAMPION!

The Answer
05-15-2005, 10:50 PM
Jarrett hits the Styles Clash but Styles kicks out!!!!!. Styles hits the Stroke but Jarrett kicks out. Monty Brown comes in and hits the pounce on Jarett by accident. Ortiz sends Brown to the back and another ref comes into the ring to make the pin but Tito grabs his leg and drags the ref out of the ring. Tito "That's my job". The bout continues and Jarrett shoves Ortiz. Ortiz nails Jarrett with a right hand that drops him Mike tyson/HBK style. Styles to the top for the Spyro Tap and he hits it 1...2....3...

New NWA Champ A.J fuckin Styles

Loose Cannon
05-15-2005, 10:54 PM
errrrrrr, they made it a cluster fuck, fluke win for Styles. He's held the dam Title for how long? WHERE'S THE CLEAN PIN?

The Answer
05-15-2005, 10:57 PM
No rep from anyone? :nono:

V
05-15-2005, 10:57 PM
clean pin or not, about fucking time

M. Banana
05-15-2005, 10:59 PM
HOLY FUCKING JESUS

MARK OUT MARK OUT MARK OUT

M. Banana
05-15-2005, 10:59 PM
Nah, not really.

Reps.

SammyG
05-15-2005, 11:06 PM
WHOOOHOO

SammyG
05-15-2005, 11:11 PM
Abyss vs Styles for the belt next ppv

KayfabeMan
05-15-2005, 11:15 PM
Whoop. De. Doo.

The CyNick
05-15-2005, 11:33 PM
very stupid finish

Innovator
05-15-2005, 11:35 PM
very stupid finish
agreed, but the title is off Jarrett

James Steele
05-15-2005, 11:38 PM
Damn, the easiest thing in the world to do (put somebody over) just got fucked up by TNA. I guess the World Title must be determined in chaos in their eyes.

SammyG
05-15-2005, 11:57 PM
How many months till jarrett gets the belt back

The One
05-16-2005, 12:02 AM
How many months till jarrett gets the belt back

Tenay: This just in...Jarrett has a rematch clause in his contract...so in one week on IMPACT...:shifty:

Ruien
05-16-2005, 12:03 AM
Jarett will win it back clean.

The Answer
05-16-2005, 12:04 AM
Where the hell was Jeff Hardy BTW? The Raven/Waltman match was quite good but the fans that paid for the event got screwed.

Nowhere Man
05-16-2005, 12:05 AM
New NCW Champ A.J fuckin Styles

Did anyone else notice that?

The One
05-16-2005, 12:06 AM
I notice that too...

ANYWAY...I to am desperatly looking for answers to the "Where is Jeff?" question. They did a great job of continuing the fued over from nothing to something interesting over the past 2 months, and I am looking for answers. Good job to Sean though in really stepping up a level.

And for that matter where was BG?

And I am guessing that Monty will be signing back with TNA based on the fact that he pinned DDP...:shifty:

Innovator
05-16-2005, 12:16 AM
Jeff apparently missed his flight from Charlotte, but they could have made an announcement more than 2 minutes before the show started

The One
05-16-2005, 12:19 AM
Not really...I mean if he missed his fight I imagine they only knew MAX 5 hours before show start...what are they gonna do, post it all over the internet that Jeff won't be in the match, by that point you just roll with the punches...

Any news on BG missing?

SammyG
05-16-2005, 12:57 AM
First Nash is unable to compete at lockdown, now hardy and james dont show up. wtf

Dave Youell
05-16-2005, 02:59 AM
So ho was the show overall then?

Impact!
05-16-2005, 08:14 AM
it sounds like it was quite a decent ppv overall, could be a sign of things to come.

only downsides i've seen are

1) K nash wasn't there (depending on which way you look at it)

2) BG James not there

3) Hardy not there

4) AJ not winning title cleanly

5) No machoman randy savage :shifty: what

HankScorpio
05-16-2005, 09:10 AM
5) No machoman randy savage :shifty: what

he was there, The Lone Drinker was out back calling him a "pussy" in an interview. The segment was cut.

The Answer
05-16-2005, 12:05 PM
Did anyone else notice that?

LOL Ya I must have c-fed fever wrote NCW instead of NWA.

The Answer
05-16-2005, 12:06 PM
First Nash is unable to compete at lockdown, now hardy and james dont show up. wtf

James did show up .He was in the battle royale

Loose Cannon
05-16-2005, 12:07 PM
IT'S TNA, not NWA

Come on

The Answer
05-16-2005, 12:09 PM
IT'S TNA, not NWA

Come on

It's the NWA world title though :shifty:

Shaggy
05-16-2005, 02:10 PM
^-LOL

I dont know much of the results from it yet because I just now finally got back to the net world.

But ive seen the Styles match already and very freakin predictable. Why do they always have to have the special ref do something besides ref. I knew from the moment they announced Ortiz as the ref that either He would hit Styles giving Jarrett the win or that he would Hit Jarrett giving Styles the win.

From what Ive heard it was a pretty nice ppv...hopefully I can find all the other matches

6to1
05-16-2005, 07:01 PM
trips without the belt and off and jerret without his belt has hell froze over.

The CyNick
05-16-2005, 07:49 PM
agreed, but the title is off Jarrett

Its probably better off on Jarrett if thats how they are going to book Styles.

They made Ortiz the star of the match, if it wasn't for Ortiz, Styles doesn't get the title.

Thats not the way to make a new star.

If they want Ortiz to be the big star, they should have just kept the title on Jarrett and built up to Ortiz taking the belt from him, where they could have put Ortiz over strong.

This makes Styles look like a mid card fluke champ who got a cheap win.

Thats not how you make a star.

SuperSlim
05-17-2005, 07:17 PM
I was just thinkin about Ortiz there and how tough and stuff he was supposed to be.

I was watchin some channel like Thursday with Ortiz on it and he got knocked out in the second round. :lol:

so it'slike a guy that just got knocked out a few days ago in the first round of some thing like 30+ seconds in the second round helped Styles win the title? that's not good.

Dave Youell
05-20-2005, 08:16 AM
Or maybe this whole thing was done to get Jarrett away from the belt and feud with Ortiz

So look for Aj to take on Monty Brown and probably Abyss again soon

Londoner
05-22-2005, 05:53 PM
I know i'm abit late on this, but this is the first time ive bothered to check this thread, and i ain't surprised by what i've read. AJ not winning the belt cleanly, WHAT A SURPRISE. I imagine this is just to keep JJ looking better than the rest. And once again a PPV is ruined by his backstage power,one day i hope wrestling businesses learn from the mistakes of TNA and WWE, and learn not to let one wrestler have so much control, much easier said than done yes, but surely this is not the way to go.

Kane Knight
05-29-2005, 10:19 AM
Its probably better off on Jarrett if thats how they are going to book Styles.

They made Ortiz the star of the match, if it wasn't for Ortiz, Styles doesn't get the title.

Thats not the way to make a new star.

If they want Ortiz to be the big star, they should have just kept the title on Jarrett and built up to Ortiz taking the belt from him, where they could have put Ortiz over strong.

This makes Styles look like a mid card fluke champ who got a cheap win.

Thats not how you make a star.
What he said.

M. Banana
05-29-2005, 02:39 PM
What he said.