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wrestling_god
01-15-2004, 06:59 PM
posted on prowrestlingscoops.com

we reported leading up to and covered afterward, there was a huge meeting held at RAW last Monday before the show began. The meeting, which featured the entire wrestling roster and staff, usually spells for bad news for most in attendance, as meetings of this hyped importance usually happen once or twice in the span of an entire year. This meeting wasn't much different.

Basically, there were two big points. One, which we've covered pretty thoroughly, was the in-ring style of working. Vince McMahon wants the match pace slowed down in WWE. He wants less use of high spots so that the emphasis on those that actually are used are that much more meaningful. Pretty easy to say, not even hard to do, but hard to get the crowds to accept due to the fact that they built an entire "generation" around that style of working - one which was among their most successful. Either way, sitting everyone down and explaining what they hope to accomplish is the first step in making changes.

One thing that struck most at the meeting the wrong way was the continuous comparison to the Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H match on RAW two weeks ago. Vince and company continued to refer to that match as an example of how things need to be done in the ring. How things need to be slowed down and built up. Many considered that a hypocritical statement seeing as how they were given over a weeks build-up, tons of television time to push the match the night of the show, and then thirty minutes to perform when time came.

The other point that was stressed to no end, was another good one, but hard to accomplish. The other point was something they've actually somewhat brought up on television, which is treatment of the referees. Vince wants more obedience given to referees during matches. He wants it established that the referee is the law of the ring, and wants that suddenness of a disqualification back. He wants wrestlers to release holds before they are given their mandatory five-count by the referee. This adds to the excitement and surprise of a match. If a DQ can come from out of nowhere again, it makes the match that much more unpredictable, which is a good thing.

Much like the other point attempting to be made, this is something that is going to have to really be worked at. Patience will be an important virtue here because at first, a lot of the DQs will not be received well by the fans. It seems hard to picture fans taking a referee's authority seriously due to past occurances - referres going on strike, demanding respect, and so on, and never receiving so much as a fraction of it. However, another strong attempt is being made. There is already some confusion on this subject, as Booker T vs. Kane on RAW was stopped prematurely, due to usage of the steel steps on the outside. The referee called for the DQ, even though that wasn't the written finish for the match. It was a case of the referee taking the meeting to heart, and forgetting it wasn't the time to call for the bell, but doing so anyways to follow the new guidelines set by management at the meeting. Later on, in the main-event, a very similar situation happened, with no DQ being called. This already shows that the rule will only apply when WWE wants it to, which means it will probably never catch on with the fans.

The mindset behind these hopeful changes by McMahon and management are in the right direction, but it takes careful execution and as mentioned before, a lot of patience. We'll see on the next few TV's how dedicated McMahon is to getting the aforementioned points over.

Corkscrewed
01-15-2004, 07:06 PM
This was posted on the main page... just not as indepth.

Personally, slow is okay.. except in the Cruiserweight division, which HAS to be fast (though it doesn't necessarily need big spots at the same time). If they slow the CW division down even more, I'll be really pissed, because that totally defeats the purpose of the show.

Sure, you don't want to have injuries, but a simple solution like "be slow" won't prevent a freak accident from a German. A better solution is to have wrestlers train more and be careful and take care of their opponents. That will tone down injuries. You can have spots, though I don't mind reducing them. However, I want an exciting match. Sometimes, that's a slow match that tells a story, but not all the time.

It's somewhat sickening that they're telling everyone to "grap their opportunity" but continually deny them chances to do so. Perhaps a wrestler should come out one night unscheduled and cut a shoot promo. Like have Rhyno come out and rant on how he's been underused and screwed over and not allowed on SD!. Someone suggested this before, but they could have a whole faction do it and incorporate it as a storyline, only this time, not make a joke out of it.

THAT would be intriguing TV, but then again, it'd "show up" the main eventers. :roll:

ColdwaVer
01-15-2004, 07:25 PM
I certainly like the idea of a greater chance of DQ's. Referees barely serve a purpose anymore. Remember when breaking up a pin to save your tag partner was a DQ? They really do need to bring back the idea that losing by DQ is really losing. And while they're at it, have a few countouts again. And make it so that you CAN lose a title by DQ or countout.

Interesting too, that the referee being referred to in this meeting as the "law of the ring" when Austin is currently on his "sherriff" kick. They could easily tie the two together; have Austin take charge of the referee staff and push them to "lay down the law" a bit more; in instances where they don't, they get stunned.

Example: HHH pushes Hebner during a match, Hebner doesn't DQ him. After the match Austin comes to the ring on his quad and demands to know why he let it slide. After Hebner babbles a bit, he takes a stunner, and Austin warns him to shape up. It could work, and it could make things interesting.

Fryza
01-15-2004, 07:30 PM
Read Raven's journal for his opinion on high spots. Good read, but it won't let me copy and paste, and it's a bit long to type. :-\

http://www.theraveneffect.com

It's basically the same or close to same stance I take. High Spots are like a temporary buzz, but ANYONE can basically do them, but it really does take someone to work a crowd. The Rock/Hogan/Austin matches from recent WrestleManias, Benoit's crowd reactions, etc.