View Full Version : Some moves are just dumb...
BigDaddyCool
05-25-2005, 06:00 PM
One such group of moves I'm thinking of is pumphandles. Be it a slam, suplex, or anything else starting with a pumphandle, it just looks dumb. They take to long to set up, and aren't very impressive. What moves do you think are dumb and a waste of time. (And don't bring up moves like the worm/stinkface/people's elbow).
SuperSlim
05-25-2005, 06:02 PM
the slingshot. you know when you roll on your back and "slingshot" your opponent into a turnbuckle or somethin. the most retarded move ever created.
Esoteric
05-25-2005, 06:04 PM
the airplane spin yeah its supposed to get your opponent dizzy, but wont u get dizzy also.
Also the monkey flip never really liked it
Innovator
05-25-2005, 06:09 PM
the airplane spin yeah its supposed to get your opponent dizzy, but wont u get dizzy also.
American Dragon used this as a finisher to a match...with 101 revolutions
Cooler Tom Schuler
05-25-2005, 06:11 PM
Bearhugs usually look pretty dumb.
Savio
05-25-2005, 06:12 PM
Last exit wow its a DDT
The Punch/Boot/Leg Drop combo and alone. It was okay for 80s, and hell, even the early 90s, but once the Cruiserweights came in, it made it look lame. I could understand if Hogan was Yokozuna-sized, I'd call that a legit finisher, but at his size, it's ridiculous to call it devastating, much less for it to win a match or a TITLE with.
Also, the Viscera Hump. :shifty:
carrythezero
05-25-2005, 06:19 PM
I agree with the slingshot 100%. Also, Undertaker's "old school" where he walks across the ropes is pretty stupid. It's cool for mark out moments, but it doesn't make much sense.
Jonster
05-25-2005, 06:41 PM
The Punch/Boot/Leg Drop combo and alone. It was okay for 80s, and hell, even the early 90s, but once the Cruiserweights came in, it made it look lame. I could understand if Hogan was Yokozuna-sized, I'd call that a legit finisher, but at his size, it's ridiculous to call it devastating, much less for it to win a match or a TITLE with.
No, you've got it all wrong. It's not the impact that keeps them down for the three count. The fact is that Hogan is highly skilled, and has learnt exactly where to apply a certain amount of pressure to someone in order to temporarily paralyse them to get the pin.
That's why Hogan can get the pin using the moves he does, despite not being the biggest of people. The reason other people can't use it is because they don't know the exact pressure point to hit, or apply too much/little pressure.
It is not known how he learnt the method he uses as his finisher, but it has been proven time and time again that it's effective.
Shadow
05-25-2005, 06:43 PM
How about the Unprettier? Just the amount of time it takes to set up and then hit just irks me.
No, you've got it all wrong. It's not the impact that keeps them down for the three count. The fact is that Hogan is highly skilled, and has learnt exactly where to apply a certain amount of pressure to someone in order to temporarily paralyse them to get the pin.
That's why Hogan can get the pin using the moves he does, despite not being the biggest of people. The reason other people can't use it is because they don't know the exact pressure point to hit, or apply too much/little pressure.
It is not known how he learnt the method he uses as his finisher, but it has been proven time and time again that it's effective.
Does that gap that sometimes appears between their neck/chest and his knee have something to do with it? And what about when he can't reach their face for the Big Boot? Are there multiple pressure/weak points? :shifty:
How about the Unprettier? Just the amount of time it takes to set up and then hit just irks me.
I don't like the setup to the Unprettier. It's not the length of time that bothers me, it's how he turns them. He sometimes even releases their arms if he can't reach far enough. If he did it with a backup-type setup, I'd love it.
Pepsi Man
05-25-2005, 07:00 PM
I dunno, I like the Pumphandle, especially the version of the slam where one guy lifts the other guy up all the way over his shoulder. :o (aka the Meltdown)
Also, Jonster is the man.
Jonster
05-25-2005, 07:06 PM
Does that gap that sometimes appears between their neck/chest and his knee have something to do with it? And what about when he can't reach their face for the Big Boot? Are there multiple pressure/weak points? :shifty:
Yes, sometimes the pressure needed is so minimal it's caused by the displacement of the air.
Also different people have their pressure points at slightly different points, hence the change in where he hits them.
Gerard
05-25-2005, 07:26 PM
Atomic drop\inverted atomic drop. First one cause its just a knee to the ass, second one because its a knee to the nuts but somehow doesn't count as an illegal move. :wtf:
Ruien
05-25-2005, 07:47 PM
The sleeper hold. They call it that because it puts the viewers to sleep.
Karlsberg
05-25-2005, 08:16 PM
I always thought that the bronco buster was a bit shit, the initial impact was fine but to continue hitting them looks lame as there is little force behind.
Also the stratusfaction and dudley dog are ridiculous it is obvious the person having the move done to them has to lift the other.
Gerard
05-25-2005, 08:28 PM
I always thought that the bronco buster was a bit shit, the initial impact was fine but to continue hitting them looks lame as there is little force behind.
Also the stratusfaction and dudley dog are ridiculous it is obvious the person having the move done to them has to lift the other.
:lol: Yeah the bronco buster did have a kinda homoerotic quality to it, having your nuts inches from someones face while bouncing up and down with the optional "yeehaww" thrown in for good measure. :shifty:
I agree with the stratusfaction and the dudley dog as well, opponent just lifts the guy\girl doing the move..nice to see him\her having a helping hand in their own defeat.
Stupidest name for a move imo has to be "sliced bread number 2" seriously WTF :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
redoneja
05-25-2005, 08:30 PM
The Irish Whip- Worst Move Ever
I disagree with Ruien about the Sleeper Hold. A legitimate sleeper WILL render a victim unconscious, it just takes a decent amount of time(if pressure is applied to the sides of the neck).
redoneja
05-25-2005, 08:31 PM
Spanky called it "Sliced Bread #2" because it was(is) the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Gerard
05-25-2005, 08:35 PM
Spanky called it "Sliced Bread #2" because it was(is) the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Meh, its similar to the dudley dog but with the move turning into a scorpion death drop.
Aussie Skier
05-25-2005, 09:01 PM
pumphandle slam by test is a my least favourite move.
i watched summerslam 1999 the other night, and i reckon thats about the first time i've ever actually seen him pull it off successfully.
also, i hate piledrivers, because, i'm assuming, you can't actually hit their head on the canvas (unless your owen hart), so essentially...ur not doing anything to them right?
redoneja
05-25-2005, 09:04 PM
You can actually hit someone's head on the canvas by doing a piledriver, TRUST ME(really bad idea if you don't know what your doing)
KillerWolf
05-25-2005, 09:13 PM
moves that normally amount to nothing, but are supposed to be finishers when a particular wrestler does them or puts their own 'spin' on it:
John Cena's shoulder brushing punch
Jonn Cena's F U
the Peoples' Elbow
Statusfaction
The Icon of Elisim
05-25-2005, 09:19 PM
Unprettier irks me alot lately. Back in the day it was great cause it looked like Christian actually had the guy locked in and looked like there was a fair amount of impact.
Now he just loosely holds the guys hands and falls down, on the odd chance that he hits it it looks like there is no impact and that the guy just falls down.
Did anybody mention the POOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNCCCCCCCCCCE
redoneja
05-25-2005, 09:31 PM
The Bubba Bomb
Gerard
05-25-2005, 09:40 PM
pumphandle slam by test is a my least favourite move.
i watched summerslam 1999 the other night, and i reckon thats about the first time i've ever actually seen him pull it off successfully.
:lol:
Its probably by far the most reversed finisher in the history of wrestling. Ive only ever seen it hit a few times, usually they just drop behind whoevers doing it when they get lifted up.
Gerard
05-25-2005, 09:42 PM
The Bubba Bomb
For all intents and purposes that moves like a standard atomic drop without the knee up the arse. Same "effect" when the moves hit though i guess (assbuster). :-\
redoneja
05-25-2005, 09:43 PM
Oh yeah I forgot- the X-Factor. Like somebody is going to jump up horizontally when you grab their head.
TerranRich
05-25-2005, 09:48 PM
Truthfully...hurricanranas. So you use your legs to flip the guy over onto his back. That's what they do while training to become wrestlers...flip onto their backs.
Innovator
05-25-2005, 11:32 PM
Paulie, ever been DDTed in real life? Best finisher in a real fight
BigDaddyCool
05-26-2005, 01:12 AM
Oh, and half of Rey's move set, because it just looks so fake, and you can tell the other guy has to help him.
Also, reverse powerbombs, like what Hassan did to Shelton to the guard rail. Those look crappy.
Anybody Thrilla
05-26-2005, 01:15 AM
Tajiri's Tarantula is starting to get pretty dumb. Sure, it was kinda impressive the first fifty thousand times, but now it's just like "O....K". It's even dumber in the sense that he can only legally keep it locked in for 4.9 seconds.
The Naitch
05-26-2005, 01:21 AM
Paulie, ever been DDTed in real life? Best finisher in a real fight
I'll try that someday. And then nip up like The Rock :cool:
BigDaddyCool
05-26-2005, 01:30 AM
I'll try that someday. And then nip up like The Rock :cool:
I thought the word was kipp up? I could be wrong.
Funky Fly
05-26-2005, 01:54 AM
For all intents and purposes that moves like a standard atomic drop without the knee up the arse. Same "effect" when the moves hit though i guess (assbuster). :-\
Have you ever fallen hard on your ass? Bruised/broken tail bones are a bitch. :'(
Funky Fly
05-26-2005, 01:58 AM
The Worm and the Nightmare On Helms Street.
The Buff Blockbuster.
Most neckbreakers.
Russian legsweeps.
Hired Hitman
05-26-2005, 02:08 AM
Nip up sounds sexier.... Nipple :drool:
NoRoolz
05-26-2005, 04:24 AM
:lol:
Rammsteinmad
05-26-2005, 04:25 AM
Oh yeah I forgot- the X-Factor. Like somebody is going to jump up horizontally when you grab their head.
foodstampchamp
05-26-2005, 05:54 AM
I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned the Canadian Destroyer. I always thought it looked more fake than any other move. The F-U is by far the shittiest finisher on Smackdown.
Now here is a real finisher. The most devastating move in all of professional wrestling.
xxxhttp://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09ZVJ09LC36AN2DGJ9I6R34HLR
Jonster
05-26-2005, 07:19 AM
:lol: Yeah the bronco buster did have a kinda homoerotic quality to it, having your nuts inches from someones face while bouncing up and down with the optional "yeehaww" thrown in for good measure. :shifty:
The Bronco Buster does damage on the first impact and then the rest of the bouncing is purely a psychological factor intended to freak the receiver out and throw him/her off their plan.
:shifty:
James Steele
05-26-2005, 07:48 AM
I always thought that the Styles Clash was a little bit *meh*.
James Steele
05-26-2005, 07:49 AM
Unless it was a botched Styles Clash. Those look sweet. :p
James Steele
05-26-2005, 07:54 AM
:rofl: @ asspunch clip
BigDaddyCool
05-26-2005, 01:39 PM
Wow, Jersey All-Prowrestling is retarded.
James Steele
05-26-2005, 01:54 PM
Well New Jersey is the "Bastard State".
***HEEL HEAT***
The Gooch
05-26-2005, 02:48 PM
For some reason I was never a fan of the Lou Thesz press. I really didn't see why you wouldn't prefer to spear someone instead.
The Lariat/Clothesline is another move. In real life this is a good way to fuck up your shoulder or bicep.
Kane Knight
05-26-2005, 03:03 PM
The Lariat/Clothesline is another move. In real life this is a good way to fuck up your shoulder or bicep.
Especially if someone's running at you. Like an Irish Whip deal.
Anybody Thrilla
05-26-2005, 03:37 PM
I think the Lou Thesz press is just fine, as long as you follow it up with punches, a la Steve Austin. I just want to know why nobody ever reversed it into a spinebuster.
James Steele
05-26-2005, 03:40 PM
because they were falling down before they were ever touched :p
The Gooch
05-26-2005, 03:50 PM
I think the Lou Thesz press is just fine, as long as you follow it up with punches, a la Steve Austin. I just want to know why nobody ever reversed it into a spinebuster.
Just seems like a good way to get nailed in nuts. I wonder how many times Austin got accidentally balled doing that move?
edit: fuck I ruined my ability to create a dedication thread for post 420. I would of just dedicated it to beer anyway so I guess it is no big loss.....
mitch_h
05-26-2005, 05:02 PM
Rey Mysterios spring board sit on the guy thing is absolutely terrible.
HankScorpio
05-26-2005, 05:05 PM
Rey Mysterios spring board sit on the guy thing is absolutely terrible.
I agree, that move is pointless. Every time he goes up for the sit down, I think the other guy is gonna slam him
Vietnamese Crippler
05-27-2005, 12:23 AM
Any variation on a splash from the top rope.
I mean really, what can you possibly do with your hands or how many times you can spin that could inflict THAT much more damage.
Chavo Classic
05-28-2005, 02:48 PM
Paulie, ever been DDTed in real life? Best finisher in a real fight
Wha? In my experience anything that puts you on the floor in a fight is a bad idea. Leaves you prone for a kickin.
Shadow
05-28-2005, 05:47 PM
Wha? In my experience anything that puts you on the floor in a fight is a bad idea. Leaves you prone for a kickin.
Only if it's not one on one.
As for me...the Pedigree. Who in their right mind stays between HHH's legs for that long?
Only if it's not one on one.
As for me...the Pedigree. Who in their right mind stays between HHH's legs for that long?
There can be so many jokes made here.
M. Banana
05-28-2005, 06:07 PM
Nuh uh...
Batsu
05-29-2005, 12:51 PM
If you look at moves like The People's Elbow, The Worm, and the 5 Knuckle Shuffle in the proper context (i.e., the person performing them being a complete ass to the opponent and showing off), then they aren't so bad. I guess the only thing you can blast them for is that they eventually were sold as finishers (Cena's move not so often). Hogan's Leg Drop, while it does seem like one of these, was always purported to be a "legit" finisher and sold that way but...
anyway, the F-U Cena has used since he was forbidden to use it in original "DVD" form up until recently (where he sits out) SUCKED. That might have flown prior to 1985 but now...you really have to do better.
I don't have a problem with most other finishers, except those that are visibly lame or replacements for those that are cool (Nightmare on Helms Street, for example)...just as long as they look like a finisher (i.e. a move another wrestler would finish someone with, and not just a setup move)...
Anybody Thrilla
05-29-2005, 01:04 PM
I know Shane Helms did the Nightmare on Helms Street...but what is it?
Jonster
05-29-2005, 01:06 PM
I know Shane Helms did the Nightmare on Helms Street...but what is it?
I too want to know this.
Dark-Slicer Diago
05-29-2005, 01:33 PM
I think Nightmare on Helms Street is The Eye of the Hurricane now
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