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#BROKEN Hasney
06-06-2005, 04:13 AM
NOA vice president George Harrison talks 'bout a Revolution

Amid the loud roars and beating chests of Sony and Microsoft last week, you'd be forgiven for forgetting about Nintendo completely.

Nintendo - the once dominating force of videogames - sat quietly in the corner, all alone and looking at its watch every five minutes, while its rivals danced and cheered the night away, full of satisfaction and optimism.

But Nintendo hasn't given up. The lack of any next-gen gameplay footage and the omission of the 'revolutionary' controller at the pre-E3 Nintendo conference may have been a disappointment, but Nintendo does have a plan up its sleeve.

In a recent interview with US website GameSpot, Nintendo of America vice president George Harrison answered some burning questions, finally giving some kind of clue as to how Nintendo plans to play this generation.

Beginning by referring to Nintendo's next-gen chances, Harrison confidently claimed, "Revolution will have no real problem standing up to [PS3 and Xbox 360]," keenly pointing out that, while Sony and Microsoft have laid their cards on the table, Nintendo is yet to actually reveal its final specs, regardless of what has been said by the press.

Harrison then explained that getting developers on board is key to the Revolution strategy, and Nintendo is working hard to ensure Revolution is both easy and cheap to develop for.

As far as what makes the console revolutionary, Harrison was coy regarding the controller, instead focusing on Nintendo's online plans and downloadable games service.

"People sort of picked on us for not prematurely jumping into online or internet gaming," he mused, going on to point out that now the company has more to offer besides online gaming. Harrison then confirmed that past-gen, Nintendo-created titles will indeed be downloadable for free.

This is a clever move by Nintendo: regardless of the final power of Revolution and the frequency of new titles, Nintendo knows that its loyal fans will cry tears of joy over a free service that lets them download previous Nintendo classics straight out of the box.

Third-party developers could charge for the privilege to download though. Or, alternatively, they could offer downloadable classics as an incentive to buy their next-gen full price releases. Either way, classic Nintendo titles such as Castlevania and MegaMan may not be immediately accessible.

A similar model applies to online gaming. Playing Nintendo titles across the internet will be free, whereas third-party publishers will be able to charge whatever subscription rates they wish.

Still, with a massive back-catalogue of titles and some key franchises that gamers have been wanting to play online for some time - Mario Kart, to name but one - it's unlikely the occasional fee for a third-party offering will spoil Nintendo's idea too much.

Nintendo Revolution is due to be launched in 2006 From Gamesradar. Pretty hot, but all this talk of old games scares me. If they're concentrating more on that than new games

Hired Hitman
06-06-2005, 06:24 AM
That's because unlike the latest games, the old game were good.


;)

Ninti the Mad
06-06-2005, 08:45 AM
Roms.

AareDub
06-06-2005, 09:04 AM
He did NOT say they would be free. Gamesrader just misunderstood and now the rumor is spreading like wildfire.


GS: Do you plan on having like a per-download pricing model along the lines of the microtransactions that will be used in the next-gen Xbox marketplace?

GH: Well, we can use it in a variety of ways. We've used some of the older games already as little bonuses, either as bonus gifts or hidden in levels of games. Certainly for the first-party titles we'll be making some of those available. We haven't really talked about whether we would sell them. The third parties can make their own decision whether they want to sell them, or maybe they will add it on as sort of a free benefit when you buy a current version of the game

This was simply Gamesradar reading the (several-day-old) Gamespot interview and miscomprehending the quote. Harrison did *not* say the games would be free, he said the ability to get online would be free, and they were still deciding whether to charge for the games or not.

Some games may be free as a bonus when buying certain other games, but the entire library hasn't been announced as being free.

Dark-Slicer Diago
06-07-2005, 10:40 AM
this past Saturday on Electric Playground they said that Nintendo Revolution will be backwards compatable with nes,snes and n64, I hope thats true

AareDub
06-07-2005, 11:27 AM
It's true that they will be backwards compatible, and that you will be able to download the entire library of past games. They just haven't announced how much you will have to pay yet.

road doggy dogg
06-07-2005, 12:34 PM
I can't imagine them charging an unreasonable amount for them. After all, with Sony and Microsoft seeming to take over the market, something like this will have to be a big selling point for Nintendo. Thye need to at least make the games cheap. Not that I care since I'll be getting a Revolution regardless :love:

Kane Knight
06-07-2005, 12:55 PM
It's true that they will be backwards compatible, and that you will be able to download the entire library of past games. They just haven't announced how much you will have to pay yet.
I don't expect them to be charging much. I mean, there's no physical hardware to sell, no packaging, just the games.

AareDub
06-07-2005, 01:09 PM
Yea, I wouldn't expect to see an NES game cost more than a buck or two. I think the best pricing would be like NES for $1, SNES for $3, and N64 for $5. Asking any more than that would be a bit ridiculous. I can go to GameStop and get most N64 games for around that price, and my console is still hooked up... just sitting behind the GC.

Shadow
06-07-2005, 01:45 PM
Yea, I wouldn't expect to see an NES game cost more than a buck or two. I think the best pricing would be like NES for $1, SNES for $3, and N64 for $5. Asking any more than that would be a bit ridiculous. I can go to GameStop and get most N64 games for around that price, and my console is still hooked up... just sitting behind the GC.

Now that's a price I could see paying.

Kane Knight
06-07-2005, 02:09 PM
Yea, I wouldn't expect to see an NES game cost more than a buck or two. I think the best pricing would be like NES for $1, SNES for $3, and N64 for $5. Asking any more than that would be a bit ridiculous. I can go to GameStop and get most N64 games for around that price, and my console is still hooked up... just sitting behind the GC.
I'm guessing (note the word guessing for anyone considering jumping on me) that it will not just vary from original system to original system, but also game to game. Though I honestly think it'd be better if they charged a flat rate for game, keeping the price incredibly low. Like RDD said, this is a GREAT selling point for the system. Unfortunately, this is NOT the place to be making up money lost on the hardware itself. If they do that, they will be shooting themselves in the foot. Honestly, I'm hoping they take a "come for the retro games, stay for our MIND BLOWING NEW TITLES!!!!!!!" approach, but I'm uncertain it'll happen.

Gouda
06-07-2005, 02:14 PM
Well those classic NES games that they put out for the GBA they charge like the full price of a regular game. Which is crap. I don't want to pay $35 for Donkey Kong or Baloon Fight.

So hopefully the downloads are at least reasonably priced.

#BROKEN Hasney
06-07-2005, 02:24 PM
Well those classic NES games that they put out for the GBA they charge like the full price of a regular game. Which is crap. I don't want to pay $35 for Donkey Kong or Baloon Fight.

So hopefully the downloads are at least reasonably priced.
They should be. The reason for the NES classics price was because GBA carts are not cheap.

Anyways, Famitsu has a feature about this. They confirm it isn't a free service, but put some games up that they "expect" to be downloadable.

http://www.n-next.com/cutenews/data/upimages/famitsu-revdetails2.jpg

I expect theres one image there to make a few people take notice ;).

Anyways, as for the games, Famitsu expects this to be downloadable:

79 = NES
54=SNES
45=N64
43=GC

Kane Knight
06-07-2005, 02:35 PM
Well those classic NES games that they put out for the GBA they charge like the full price of a regular game. Which is crap. I don't want to pay $35 for Donkey Kong or Baloon Fight.

So hopefully the downloads are at least reasonably priced.
Uhhh...Yeah. The hardware is expensive. We've addressed that. It's costlier to manufacture a cartridge or disc.

AareDub
06-07-2005, 11:43 PM
I'm guessing (note the word guessing for anyone considering jumping on me) that it will not just vary from original system to original system, but also game to game. Though I honestly think it'd be better if they charged a flat rate for game, keeping the price incredibly low. Like RDD said, this is a GREAT selling point for the system. Unfortunately, this is NOT the place to be making up money lost on the hardware itself. If they do that, they will be shooting themselves in the foot. Honestly, I'm hoping they take a "come for the retro games, stay for our MIND BLOWING NEW TITLES!!!!!!!" approach, but I'm uncertain it'll happen.

Yea, I expect as much as far as different games being higher priced. Those were just kind of my average ideal prices. I definitely see them charging more for Ocarina of Time than they would for Quest 64.

Kane Knight
06-08-2005, 02:28 PM
Yea, I expect as much as far as different games being higher priced. Those were just kind of my average ideal prices. I definitely see them charging more for Ocarina of Time than they would for Quest 64.
I wonder how much of the back catalogue will become available over time.