View Full Version : Official Raw Thread - 06/06/05
Shadow
06-07-2005, 07:56 PM
Time has not been good for the Sandman
M. Banana
06-07-2005, 07:56 PM
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Azriel
06-07-2005, 07:57 PM
Killer, absolutely killer RAW!!
Zen v.W.o.
06-07-2005, 07:57 PM
I'm gonna invade the ecw ppv on behalf of the wwe and take care of some serious business.
Azriel
06-07-2005, 07:58 PM
Sandman has lost it.
Zen v.W.o.
06-07-2005, 07:58 PM
double post.
M. Banana
06-07-2005, 07:58 PM
RAW RAWR RAW
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Ok you're an asshole. Stop.
darkpower
06-07-2005, 07:58 PM
Theres still SD!
Yeah...and they BETTER do something about what they did with Cena...I'm REALLY pissed off about that. They ruined the ENTIRE RAW, for me, in a way, just by doing that.
No, scratch that, that might have been the single worst mistake that the WWE has done...worse than Katie Vick, I bet. (neg rep me if you must, I'm totally sure on that).
Gone Mad
06-07-2005, 07:58 PM
Damn.... that was worth it. And yes, there is still SD to see what ol' ECW has up its sleeves.
And a big LOL at Rhyno biting on the kendo stick. I need to find a pic of that.
Azriel
06-07-2005, 07:59 PM
Who knows what Smackdown has in store?
owenbrown
06-07-2005, 07:59 PM
this show was fuckin awesome tonite :D
aaaaand MY Raw thread.. my birthday's raw, gets the most replies in a raw thread ever
wonder how long it'll hold the record
Supermark101
06-07-2005, 07:59 PM
BALLS!!!
How thin did Balls look?
ECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWE CWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECWECW
and a Raw thread gets to 20 pages
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 07:59 PM
LOL, that segment defined the phrase "out of shape"
Azriel
06-07-2005, 07:59 PM
20 pages bitches!
LOL, that segment defined the phrase "out of shape"
ah who cares
McLegend
06-07-2005, 08:01 PM
Yeah...and they BETTER do something about what they did with Cena...I'm REALLY pissed off about that. They ruined the ENTIRE RAW, for me, in a way, just by doing that.
No, scratch that, that might have been the single worst mistake that the WWE has done...worse than Katie Vick, I bet. (neg rep me if you must, I'm totally sure on that).
It definitely wasn't bad. Pretty good move.
It was a total surprise and besides SD will be getting people in return probably Christian and Orton or possibly Jericho.
So it's really not bad
Volchok
06-07-2005, 08:01 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
Best Raw in ages and amazingly the cerebral assasin of entertainment only had a minor role
RawRocks
06-07-2005, 08:02 PM
With Cena on Raw.. and the Draft Lottery contiuing, the possibilities for Vegeance is endless
Kane Knight
06-07-2005, 08:02 PM
Let the something hit the something!
Supermark101
06-07-2005, 08:02 PM
Who knows what Smackdown has in store?
Randy Orton gets drafted, and TAZ chokes out Angle.
M. Banana
06-07-2005, 08:03 PM
best fucking raw evar
Shadow
06-07-2005, 08:04 PM
what a raw
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:04 PM
I wish RVD came out. That segment needed him.
Evil Vito
06-07-2005, 08:05 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Best fucking Raw in a long time.
SOooo glad I stayed away from spoilers</font>
Fair play to the writing team for tonights show cause it was great and the whole thing was just so well done.
Bischoff187
06-07-2005, 08:05 PM
I wish RVD came out. That segment needed him.
RVD is on SD.
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:06 PM
The Gore was sweet. And so was the 3D's
Gerard
06-07-2005, 08:07 PM
Who was the fat guy with the blonde hair...doesn't really narrow it down saying that i suppose :wtf: . The one that had the blonde nasty boy hairdo, im familiar with mosta the ecw guys but he didn't ring a bell, kinda looked like blue meanie in a way.
So are the Dudleyz, Sandman, Balls and Axl don't even work for them so I doubt that would make a difference
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:07 PM
RVD is on SD.
so are the Dudleys
owenbrown
06-07-2005, 08:07 PM
HEYMAN/ECW = RATINGS ..... the rating for this show better have skyrocketed tonight... or i will be pissed.
McLegend
06-07-2005, 08:07 PM
Who was the fat guy with the blonde hair...doesn't really narrow it down saying that i suppose :wtf: . The one that had the blonde nasty boy hairdo, im familair with mosta the ecw guys but he didn't ring a bell, kinda looked like blue meanie in a way.
Axl Rotten
Supermark101
06-07-2005, 08:08 PM
Who was the fat guy with the blonde hair...doesn't really narrow it down saying that i suppose :wtf: . The one that had the blonde nasty boy hairdo, im familair with mosta the ecw guys but he didn't ring a bell, kinda looked like blue meanie in a way.
edit too late
Bischoff187
06-07-2005, 08:08 PM
So are the Dudleyz, Sandman, Balls and Axl don't even work for them so I doubt that would make a difference
Only that SD has it's own resistance team also and Dudley's are not considered SD in this case.
CYCLOPTERSAURUS
06-07-2005, 08:09 PM
Great Raw. Long term, Cena moving may have been a mistake, but it was shocking and actually lived up to the hype. And the ECW stuff was great.
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:09 PM
Only that SD has it's own resistance team also and Dudley's are not considered SD in this case.
lol what? So why is RVD considered Smackdown in this case.
Stop talking
Bischoff187
06-07-2005, 08:10 PM
woah my bad, i wasnt even thinking for a second, stoner moment, my bad.
/me ALT + F4
Wow.
The Answer
06-07-2005, 08:11 PM
I wish RVD came out. That segment needed him.
He would have if not for the bad leg. He couldn't do much even if he was there.
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:12 PM
his leg is fine now
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:13 PM
So here's my viewpoint:
- The ECW thing was pretty good. I was never a full-fledged fan of ECW, but I watched it when i got the chance. Too bad they need to do this invasion thing, since Vince doesn't think the ECW people can sell it on their own.
-The contract signing was part good, part the same damn thing we've seen week in and out from HHH. He can't come up with anything to say in his promos that he hasn't said, but Batista is becoming gold on the mic. But let me inform someone who shall remain nameless of something: Triple H is NOT, I repeat, NOT the greatest heel in WWE history. No one wants him around as heel, but it's not the type of heel heat you would want. He gets the fans to hate him by playing backstage politics and sleeping around with the boss's daughter to get what he wants? Look at what they're doing with Eddie. Eddie is 1,000 times of a better heel than HHH ever WILL be, past OR present...OR future. WWE needs to WAKE UP!
- The Cena thing was shocking, but in the end, I think the people who marked out will realize what a horrid mistake this will be for the WWE. First off, I have said that SD needs more top-carders and more big names. So what do THEY do. Do the EXACT OPPOSITE of what they need to do. Cena is one of the main reasons people WANT to tune to SD every week. He is one of most over stars in the WWE right now. So why in the blue fuck do they pull something like that out of their ass? It's reversing of what they NEED to do.
And here is something else I want to add to this while I'm at it: People who are saying they hope ALL the big names from SD get moved so you won't have to give a shit about SD anymore, think about WHY we're in this brand extension thing to begin with. If there is just one show to carry everyone, or if this brand extension thing never exisited, then how will the WWE stars that would otherwise not be in the top-card be there? HHH would be able to hold even MORE people down. Sending people from RAW that no one will give a shit about to SD is NOT the answer, and whoever will say this will be off by a damn mile. What next? Eddie and Rey get drafted? And then what will happen to THAT golden feud? Nothing will happen anymore from it because it would overshadow certain things.
And...what about the WWE Title? If you think anyone should be happy if they just let SD go without a top title, then you are, once more, off by a mile.
I'm sorry, that really ended up pissing me off to no end. They need to fix that mistake....NOW!!!
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:14 PM
It definitely wasn't bad. Pretty good move.
It was a total surprise and besides SD will be getting people in return probably Christian and Orton or possibly Jericho.
So it's really not bad
Probably not the type of pops that Cena would get them, though.
Face it, this is a HUGE mistake, period.
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:15 PM
my god.
Cena was stale on Smackdown. It's been rumored for ages he would come to Raw. Like I said, HE'S THE NUMBER 1 DRAW. Put him on the main show. duh
PullMyFinger
06-07-2005, 08:15 PM
FUCK!!! THE HEAT LOST THEREFORE RAW SUCKS!
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:16 PM
Probably not the type of pops that Cena would get them, though.
Face it, this is a HUGE mistake, period.
yea, cause you can predict the future right?
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:17 PM
god, what are you like 12 years old?
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:17 PM
probably
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:18 PM
OH NO CENA IS ON RAW. WWE is screwed now
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:18 PM
lol
PullMyFinger
06-07-2005, 08:19 PM
my god.
Cena was stale on Smackdown. It's been rumored for ages he would come to Raw. Like I said, HE'S THE NUMBER 1 DRAW. Put him on the main show. duh
I agree, having him on Raw was the smartest business move on WWE's part.
Only question I have now...what happens to the WWE title?
Savio
06-07-2005, 08:20 PM
Calm down LC
Savio
06-07-2005, 08:21 PM
Cena on Raw = HHH holding him down.
McLegend
06-07-2005, 08:21 PM
I agree, having him on Raw was the smartest business move on WWE's part.
Only question I have now...what happens to the WWE title?
World Heavyweight Title goes to SD.
Volchok
06-07-2005, 08:22 PM
Cena on Raw is the best thing for him... Do you really think he could have done that freestyle and everything on Smackdown..? It would have been bleeped and everything... Give Smackdown Benoit, HBK, Triple H, Benjamin and Kane and there you go. Have the rest from Smackdown be mid carders.
PullMyFinger
06-07-2005, 08:22 PM
OH NO CENA IS ON RAW. WWE is screwed now
lmao
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:24 PM
my god.
Cena was stale on Smackdown. It's been rumored for ages he would come to Raw. Like I said, HE'S THE NUMBER 1 DRAW. Put him on the main show. duh
What would that do with Batista and Cena on the same show, with Vince seemily wanting to screw SD out of everything good they may have at every single chance he can get?
Batista was the huge draw on RAW, and the way I see Vince trying to go, he will stay on RAW. Which means Cena's popularity might dissapate on RAW, and though he's not the best wrestler ever in the WWE, the fact that he's got some charisma and is one of the better mic workers they have makes a sure-fire reason why he should stay in that top picture. But he wouldn't be able to on RAW because:
1) Batista is right now the top face on RAW, and I'm predicting that they have absolutly NO intention of moving him at all.
2) If they turn Cena heel, the God forbid he'd steal HHH's thunder.
3) He put the asses into the seats of SmackDown arenas, and got them the ratings, when all they have to do on RAW is to get rid of HHH for a while to get asses in THEIR arenas and get THEM the ratings (the RAW part has been proven).
This is WHY they should've kept him on SD. Why not move JBL, who was rumored to go to RAW to begin with so HHH can go film another movie for a while? Or Angle, who everyone's been WANTING for him to move? Or Big Show, who I was picking, to be the very first pick? All of them are main event calibur workers, but not as over as Cena has been now.
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:25 PM
god, what are you like 12 years old?
No, I'm not like TLD!
Just kind of pissed right now. :mad:
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:26 PM
Cena on Raw is the best thing for him... Do you really think he could have done that freestyle and everything on Smackdown..? It would have been bleeped and everything... Give Smackdown Benoit, HBK, Triple H, Benjamin and Kane and there you go. Have the rest from Smackdown be mid carders.
It may be the fact that he also is the WWE Champ right now that is pissing me off.
If he wasn't that title holder...it would really drop the anger factor of this by about half.
Loose Cannon
06-07-2005, 08:28 PM
why don't you wait till the draft is over before coming out with these opinions. Makes no sense tobe arguing it now
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:31 PM
why don't you wait till the draft is over before coming out with these opinions. Makes no sense tobe arguing it now
Because...what could this say about everything else in the draft? SD loses Cena NOW, and I dunno if they could get someone with as equal draw power as he has been doing.
And what about the TITLE?!
James Steele
06-07-2005, 08:42 PM
Simple, HHH gets drafted to SmackDown!. He goes on to Vengeance to win the World Title. World title and HHH on SD!. We sacrifice SmackDown! for RAW.
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:42 PM
He'll get drafted back!
If Cena wasn't the WWE Champ...and Triple H wasn't allowed to live...
darkpower
06-07-2005, 08:43 PM
Simple, HHH gets drafted to SmackDown!. He goes on to Vengeance to win the World Title. World title and HHH on SD!. We sacrifice SmackDown! for RAW.
The brand extension goes straight to hell, we end up with HHH-TV instead of the WWE!
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06-07-2005, 08:45 PM
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Simple, HHH gets drafted to SmackDown!. He goes on to Vengeance to win the World Title. World title and HHH on SD!. We sacrifice SmackDown! for RAW.
On. The. Money.
That is the very dark thought that went through my head! :nono:
darkpower
06-07-2005, 09:07 PM
On. The. Money.
That is the very dark thought that went through my head! :nono:
And again, it will end up being HHH-TV.
Why no one else wants for both brands to succeed so someone other than HHH can be in the main event is beyond me? It's like Vince is trying to get people to stop caring about SD, and it's working.
John la Rock
06-07-2005, 09:36 PM
GREAT FUCKING RAW!!!
First segment was AWESOME!!! That's the John Cena we love. AWESOME PROMO
Plus ECW in the house. WOW
Raw is the goods
Corkscrewed
06-07-2005, 09:40 PM
I wish I had cable at home. If I was at school, I could have been marking the fuck out with the rest of y'all.
Boondock Saint
06-07-2005, 11:10 PM
Just watched it. Good show. Mark out for Cena and ECWWWWW
SuperSlim
06-08-2005, 05:37 AM
yeah Raw was good. and Cena on Raw was a brilliant move. ON SD! all he could say was stuff about poopie or whatever. NOw that he is on Raw he is allowed to say alot more stuff more freely.
So now Raw has the WWE title. Give it time. I say that at the last week of the draft, the very last pick fro SD! will be the world champion to SD! sso SD! will have a champion eventually.
NoRoolz
06-08-2005, 07:28 AM
Raw was awesome, 2 mark-out moments.
I think that Cena will go back to Smackdown though, I'm not sure why. I just feel it happening :-\
tucsonspeed6
06-08-2005, 11:02 AM
Did nobody see my TPWW sign? Shit. I held the damn thing up every chance I got. You can especially see me during the ECW thing.
Oh well.
tucsonspeed6
06-08-2005, 11:06 AM
BTW, somebody check on the condition of Val Venus for me. After the match the refs spent an uncomfortably long ammount of time with him as he layed on the mat, then they carried him out of the ring and it looked like they were doing their best to hold him up. I couldn't see him very well, but it didn't look like he was even moving his feet. Just wondering if the masterpiece masterfully injured another opponent.
SuperSlim
06-08-2005, 11:06 AM
well what did the sign say so I'll know if I saw it?
tucsonspeed6
06-08-2005, 11:11 AM
Just TPWW. I didn't want it to get confiscated so I left off the .net. I figured if anyone did see it that they'd google it to figure the rest out.
SuperSlim
06-08-2005, 11:13 AM
well where were you located I may look for it
tucsonspeed6
06-08-2005, 11:18 AM
When they take a wide angle, look in the upper left corner of the screen. I say that you can see me a lot during the ECW thing because they took a lot of wide shots of the whole ring then. I've also been told that my girlfriend held up a "Speak English" sign when Hassan and Davari came out and they took a close up of her, and I think I was in the shot then too. If nothing else I'll take a picture of my TV when I watch it later on and post it.
Team Sheep
06-08-2005, 12:20 PM
Holy shit, just listen to the fans when Cena's music hits. I would love to have been in that audience. :(
http://www.wwe.com/common/video/pop_wwevideo.jsp?spawn=&wmv=raw/200506/06cenadraft300&title=John%20Cena%20makes%20his%20first%20appearance%20on%20RAW%20in%20the%20Highlight%20Reel&show=raw&speed=300
RGWhat316
06-08-2005, 01:18 PM
What an awesome RAW!!!!!!!!! Except for a couple low points (mainly Masters), this has got to be the best one of the year.
I was with JR on this one, "What the hell???", when Cena came out as the first draft pick. Cena on RAW is how he needs to be. I've been a Cena fan, but I've basically hated him for the last while because his character sucks. But on RAW, where he can let loose without restrictions, is the Cena who is damn near number 1 in my book. I hadn't marked out for him so much in a long time like that. And the retaliation finally happened on Christian. Now I just don't think that Cena is gonna be on RAW full time, but enjoy it while we can.
ECW stuff was great as well. The invasion at the end ruled all. Dudleyz returning was awsome, as well as Sandman, Rhyno, and Dreamer. It looked like the start of the '01 Invasion.
More draft picks to come. They started out with a bang for the first one. This should be an interesting month.
Team Sheep
06-08-2005, 02:01 PM
I was so gutted, some asshole in school spoiled RAW for me :mad: I tape RAW on Monday nights at 2am then watch it after school on Tuesday, and this prick watched the first 10 minutes of RAW last night and knew thatCena was drafted, and spilled the beans today. Dammit, one of the things I would never have expected to happen, happened. And it was all ruined :'( .
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