Just when JBL was getting on our good side... (ONS spoilers sorta)

[Corkscrewed]

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=10888&p=1

During the brawl to end the show, John Bradshaw Layfield obviously targeted the Blue Meanie and shot all over him, stiffing him bigtime and bloodying him. He wound up reopening the gashes on the back of Meanie's head from Friday's Hardcore Homecoming show.

Ooooh.. such class... http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Altho, anyone know why he'd target Meanie? Any history between the two?

[SammyG]

He might have been mad from heyman's comments, and decided to take it out on the first ecw guy he saw in the ring

[Corkscrewed]

Ah shit, I just noticed that you posted this news story in the ONS thread. Sorry buddy! Didn't mean to steal your thunder! :o

[PureHatred]

He's a Jasmine St Claire fan and can't stand the way Meanie treated her after the break-up? :shifty:

[Hired Hitman]

I didn't know Jasmine St Claire was a Porn star until a few months ago :o

[LK]

He's an ass

[road doggy dogg]

Wait, what? JBL was never on my good side :(

[Dave Youell]

Aparently they has heat when Meanie worked in WWF back in the day. Jesus that must have been a bad grudge

[LK]

According to wrestleview, the feud is because Meanie exposed Bradshaw as a backstage bully who picks on the younger wrestlers.

[Fenix122]

John Bradshaw Layfield obviously targeted the Blue Meanie and shot all over him

insert gay joke here

[Hired Hitman]

Blue Meanie might have to change his name to White Meanie. http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[/inserted gay joke]

[Innovator]

Yeah Meanie has been vocal about what JBL does to people in the locker room

[Sepholio]

Blue Meanie posted a picture of himself on his blog after last nights show. Check this out:

Credit: Wrestleview.com

[LK]

that's fucking ridiculous

[NoRoolz]

Blue Meanie said this about the incident:

What turned out to be a beautiful weekend came to end on a sour note. I guess by now you all know what happened last night between Bradshaw and myself. It's no secret that Bradshaw never liked me from my first day in the WWE to my last. What I did to the guy to piss him off I don't know but then maybe I never needed to know. Bradshaw has always had the rep of being a bully and a liberty taker in the ring and he also has a rep of getting away with it.

Once the ECW/WWE brawl started I paired of with Coach and I felt a punch come from out of nowhere. My first instinct was to hit back BUT I also had the issue of trying to protect the 14 staples I have in my head. I got some rib shots in the best I could but he got the upper hand with going to my face, opening a fresh wound on my forehead and swelling my eye.

All I saw was red as the blood fill me eyes and I believe it was Maven I pulled on top of me to get him to "choke" me. After he got cleared out guys came up to check on me and we went on the other deal with Austin and Bischoff and the big post brawl party in the ring. As F***ed up as what Bradshaw did, the crowd reaction had me so buzzed that I didn’t feel anything.

I got to the back and Bradshaw was in a part of the gorilla position. He came over like he was going to do something else but people got in between. He was yelling about me talking about him on the Internet. The rest of what he said I didn’t hear cause I was too busy saying, “Yo, it’s a work!” and “Dude, the business is a F***in work!!” So I did the best thing anyone could ever do in the situation and just walked away.

I got stitched up and said my good byes. A lot of the guys were pissed and asked what happened. When I told them they were pissed even more. We got home and all I have been doing is popping Aleve and icing my face and reflecting. All this happened over was me calling him a bully. Well John……… you just proved me right.

In closing I want to say thank you to everyone who ran Hardcore Homecoming Friday night. I wanna say thank you to the WWE for giving EC Dub an opportunity to shine last night. I wanna say to the rest of the WWE workers and staff a big thank you for the hospitality. It was great catching up with all of you. To my EC Dub brothers and sisters I wanna say I love you. I was in heaven seeing all of you this weekend and doing it one more time. To the fans I wanna say I love you because with out the fans we wouldn’t have been anywhere without you this past weekend. I will be going back to icing my face and ponder if I will be wrestling on this weekends 3PW show. I will probably pull off of it so I can properly heal these stitches and staples. Plus we all know chicks dig scars.

I love you all!!

Credit: StevesWrestling.com

[NoRoolz]

JBL is officially back on my hate-list now.

[Anybody Thrilla]

JBL is tough.

[Gone Mad]

Damn it, JBL. Way to make a great show sour for some people, especially Meanie. :n:

[mike627]

I never liked that poor exucse of "the million dollar man" hope Vince fires him.

[Disturbed316]

God, Bradshaw maybe good on the mic, but is a big cunt IRL.

[Corkscrewed]

Seriously... just when his onstage persona was beginning to get me to ease up on his real life shennigans, he does something classless like this.

He'll get away with it. But quite frankly, he's an ass.

[Rob]

I was on IM earlier with a certain former ECW star who wasn't the show last night. You know that same guy who was "banned" from the show. After what he told me, I pray to God there is an second ECW show so this guy can be there and get in the ring with a certain bully.

[Shadow]

I was on IM earlier with a certain former ECW star who wasn't the show last night. You know that same guy who was "banned" from the show. After what he told me, I pray to God there is an second ECW show so this guy can be there and get in the ring with a certain bully.

Look...Vince knows that if New Jack and JBL gets in the ring...someone will be dead. That's why that won't happen.

[Bricktop]

Look...Vince knows that if New Jack and JBL gets in the ring...someone will be dead. That's why that won't happen.

Can someone explain the history between those two?

[Kane Knight]

Seriously... just when his onstage persona was beginning to get me to ease up on his real life shennigans, he does something classless like this.

He'll get away with it. But quite frankly, he's an ass.
The problem is that he's crossed the line. His backstage antics have affected wrestling. If we was JUST entertaining us, I wouldn't give a shit what he was doing, but if he's gonna start stiffing people in the ring, that's just...:|

[deathtrap]

I looked carefully while watching after reading this, and he did go for the Meanie in my eyes. The punches did look geniune, and JBL grabbed The Meanie while doing this. The Meanie seemed to be trying to get out by throwing arms around in desperation. He was also bleeding, but this may have been from earlier, yet I couldn't recall him bleeding before.

[Savio]

He looked torn up.

[Shadow]

Can someone explain the history between those two?

No history...just that both New Jack and JBL are both total assholes who are very stiff in the ring. So if they're in a match with one another, one or the other will die.

[Nark Order]

lol. Meanie calls JBL a bully so JBL beats the hell out of him... Way to go, John. :roll:

[Fox]

He was probably pissed about Heyman's remark about him earlier (the one about Triple H). The thing is, it's probably true.

In any event, Fuck JBL.

[Nark Order]

I still enjoy JBL as a performer though

[The CyNick]

I try not to judge based on one side of a story.

I mean for all we know Meanie could have done something to piss off Bradshaw, and this is (another) receipt. Frankly, thats just how the business is, right or wrong.

Its somewhat fair to jump on Bradshaw, because he generally doesn't have a rep for being a good guy, but like I said its still only one side of a story.

The idea that this would somehow cost JBL his job or his spot is quite absurd. Meanie isn't a WWE guy, so there's no issue of creating an awkward working environment and it was only a couple of stiff punches. Again, right or wrong, but that shit happens in the business. Its tough to single out JBL.

And beyond all that, JBL is still one of the most entertaining guys the WWE has, helll I thought he was great at the ECW, one of the highlights for me was his promo on internet fans. The line "its funny cause its true" came to mind. So it would take something pretty major to justify his losing his spot.

[Rob]

I try not to judge based on one side of a story.

I mean for all we know Meanie could have done something to piss off Bradshaw, and this is (another) receipt. Frankly, thats just how the business is, right or wrong.

Its somewhat fair to jump on Bradshaw, because he generally doesn't have a rep for being a good guy, but like I said its still only one side of a story.

The idea that this would somehow cost JBL his job or his spot is quite absurd. Meanie isn't a WWE guy, so there's no issue of creating an awkward working environment and it was only a couple of stiff punches. Again, right or wrong, but that shit happens in the business. Its tough to single out JBL.

And beyond all that, JBL is still one of the most entertaining guys the WWE has, helll I thought he was great at the ECW, one of the highlights for me was his promo on internet fans. The line "its funny cause its true" came to mind. So it would take something pretty major to justify his losing his spot.

That's bollocks. You don't issue "receipts" in the middle of the ring when everyone is meant to be "working".

[The CyNick]

It happens all the time bro.

Like I said, I'm not justifying it, I'm just saying it happens, you cant single out Bradshaw for stuff that lots of other people do, some of who are employed by WWE do as well.

And like I said, I dont know the back story. Lets just say Meanie made a pass at Bradshaw's wife, I would say thats worth a couple of punches to the face, I dont care where it happens.

[Kane Knight]

It happens all the time bro.
Yeah, so do murders. LEt's just sit back and go "meh."

[Nark Order]

Lets just say Meanie made a pass at Bradshaw's wife, I would say thats worth a couple of punches to the face, I dont care where it happens.
Bradshaw would probably kick somebody's ass the second it happened rather than bitch about it on the internet for a couple months.

[Corkscrewed]

If JBL does respond to this online (and I think chances are decent that he would), how do you think he'll respond?

A. Deny it completely (10:1)
B. Laugh it off as part of the business (2:1)
C. Call Meanie "a wuss" for complaining about it and question "how extreme" he is. (1:1)
D. Brag about what he did, as thought it was a noble act (3:1)
E. Blame it on the smarks (1:5)
F. All of the above.

[LK]

ONE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE JBL-MEANIE INCIDENT
by Mike Johnson @ 4:25:00 PM on 6/13/2005


Josh N sent the following about last night's ECW One Night Stand show ending brawl involving John Bradshaw Layfield once he is separated from The Blue Meanie:

Basically, if you watch in the corner, JBL and Axl Rotten square off a bit and a couple of punches are thrown. Tracy Smothers, who as you know is a legit tough guy, leaps in, and lands a couple of haymakers to the head of JBL, as Sandman wraps his cane around JBL’s throat from behind and holds him in place. Balls Mahoney and Mikey Whipwreck leap in, and as they start whaling on him, he goes to the mat. Bubba Ray Dudley is outside of the ring and walking around the corner, when he apparently realizes what is going on, grabs JBL, and yanks him outside of the ring. He throws a punch (legit, I don’t know) and sends JBL reeling toward his WWE counter parts. I’m not sure if the first part was a work or shoot. It seemed legit in watching in, but the camera is so far away, it’s hard to tell. But Smothers did seem to really be going after JBL. Watch the footage for yourself.

[The CyNick]

Yeah, so do murders. LEt's just sit back and go "meh."

Yeah, thats the same thing.

[Londoner]

You know, if it was someone we cared about doin this to meanie, like a face for example, e.g. Matt Hardy, you know he would get fired, but because its JBL, he'll get away with it.Sounds stupid i know, but thats what i think, heels seem to get away with alot mroe, Rhyno got fired for knocking over a flower pot for gods sake.

[Londoner]

ONE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE JBL-MEANIE INCIDENT
by Mike Johnson @ 4:25:00 PM on 6/13/2005


Josh N sent the following about last night's ECW One Night Stand show ending brawl involving John Bradshaw Layfield once he is separated from The Blue Meanie:

Basically, if you watch in the corner, JBL and Axl Rotten square off a bit and a couple of punches are thrown. Tracy Smothers, who as you know is a legit tough guy, leaps in, and lands a couple of haymakers to the head of JBL, as Sandman wraps his cane around JBL’s throat from behind and holds him in place. Balls Mahoney and Mikey Whipwreck leap in, and as they start whaling on him, he goes to the mat. Bubba Ray Dudley is outside of the ring and walking around the corner, when he apparently realizes what is going on, grabs JBL, and yanks him outside of the ring. He throws a punch (legit, I don’t know) and sends JBL reeling toward his WWE counter parts. I’m not sure if the first part was a work or shoot. It seemed legit in watching in, but the camera is so far away, it’s hard to tell. But Smothers did seem to really be going after JBL. Watch the footage for yourself.


I saw that, when Bubba pulled him out the ring, i thought that was abit odd considering they were meant to be beating him up.The punch didn't look real when he throwed one at JBL though.

[Corkscrewed]

^ He coulda missed.

But LOL at the near-lynching. :lol:

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, thats the same thing.
Of course it is.

That was the whole point, not your complacent attitude.

Detrimental.

[The CyNick]

Of course it is.

That was the whole point, not your complacent attitude.

Detrimental.

Its tough to have a logical discussion with someone who equates punching a guy in the face with murder.

Obviously if Bradshaw had killed Meanie in the ring, he should be punished. But throwing a couple of stiff punches in a sport where guys are hitting each other all the time (with different levels of force) is not something to get all up in arms about, when its kinda accepted as business as usual by the company.

The only way I would equate murder to this discussion is if there was a society that allowed murder, and then someone killed someone else, and all the smarks of the town were raising a stink because someone was murdered, when in fact it happens all the time and is accepted.

Back to wrestling, what if a guy doesn't want his chest lit up by Chris Benoit? Couldn't you say that is taking things too far? And as I stated originally, nobody here knows the backstory with Meanie and JBL, so its really hard to judge him.

[deathtrap]

But Benoit would not be committing the chops maliciously. If what Meanie has said is true, then JBL has committed an assault, which is against the law.

Also, regarding what legendkiller posted about Axl and Sandman etc, if that again is true, then it really does show how close the ECW locker room is. While I don't agree with that they did (again, if it is true), it would still show how, after all these years the ECW wrestlers are still tight, and it really is like a family.

[Corkscrewed]

The thing is, Cynick, as deathtrap mentions, there's a certain code in the biz, right? You don't sucker punch a guy in the head BEHIND HIS BACK. In a normal match, you can expect a chop and stuff and get hit, but JBL explicitly targeted Meanie and used the melee as an excuse to pummel him a bit.

That's just despicable and pathetic and shows that JBL has no class. He's so insecure that he has to go beat up a guy just cuz that guy called him a bully. It's childish. It's crass. It's assenine.

I repeat: JBL ATTACKED MEANIE FROM BEHIND. That's just fucking low.

[deathtrap]

Plus, how could anyone hurt the Meanie :(:D

[darkpower]

It could've also been a sort of botch, too. We don't know. Maybe it was supposed to happen that way, but either one of them botched it up, causing it, and someone is trying to cover up the botch. Meanie has a hell of a lot of scars, as I had seen, so it might have not been so tough to reopen one.

And we don't know if any other WWE guy happened to do something similar, as well. We don't know enough just yet to make a conclusion on if JBL is an asshole again, or just someone who ended up being at the wrong place at the worst time.

[Kane Knight]

Its tough to have a logical discussion with someone who equates punching a guy in the face with murder.
It's tough to have a logical discussion when your entire argument is summed up by a complacent statement that "it happens," silently condoning it.

The fact that you want to assume that I'm directly equating the acts instead of the reactions also hurts you, making your complaint all the more pointless.

If you can develop an argument, I'd be willing to read it, but it's looking more and more like you've turned your brain off.

[Kane Knight]

The thing is, Cynick, as deathtrap mentions, there's a certain code in the biz, right? You don't sucker punch a guy in the head BEHIND HIS BACK. In a normal match, you can expect a chop and stuff and get hit, but JBL explicitly targeted Meanie and used the melee as an excuse to pummel him a bit.

That's just despicable and pathetic and shows that JBL has no class. He's so insecure that he has to go beat up a guy just cuz that guy called him a bully. It's childish. It's crass. It's assenine.

I repeat: JBL ATTACKED MEANIE FROM BEHIND. That's just fucking low.
It's hard to have a reasonable argument with you, because you are not complacent and willing to forgive a guy for attacking someone, or acting unprofessionally. I mean, it happens, so we should just sit back and accept it, and watch it further escalate.

[Just John]

JBL is guilty

[Rob]

It happens all the time bro.

Like I said, I'm not justifying it, I'm just saying it happens, you cant single out Bradshaw for stuff that lots of other people do, some of who are employed by WWE do as well.

And like I said, I dont know the back story. Lets just say Meanie made a pass at Bradshaw's wife, I would say thats worth a couple of punches to the face, I dont care where it happens.

If you are a man, you do it face to face, one on one. Not during a freaking ambush.

[Rob]

Back to wrestling, what if a guy doesn't want his chest lit up by Chris Benoit? Couldn't you say that is taking things too far? And as I stated originally, nobody here knows the backstory with Meanie and JBL, so its really hard to judge him.

Difference is, with Benoit, he might work stiff but he is still working. You know what's coming in advance. If I get in the ring with 30+ guys, I don't expect to be punch in the boat when I'm not looking.

[Chavo Classic]

I never liked that poor exucse of "the million dollar man" hope Vince fires him.

Why the hell would vince fire one of his top stars for potato-ing a guy who isn't even on the roster, and actually works and occassionally books for a competing federation. If he didn't fire JBL after the Nazi salute incident in Germany, and his alleged incident with Storm, then he sure as hell isn't going to do jack about this.

[Kane Knight]

Difference is, with Benoit, he might work stiff but he is still working. You know what's coming in advance. If I get in the ring with 30+ guys, I don't expect to be punch in the boat when I'm not looking.
Too right. If you don't want to take chops, you don't deserve to be in wrestling. There's a huge difference between part of the professionalism of the job, and getting beat up by some dumb cunt.

[Rob]

Why the hell would vince fire one of his top stars for potato-ing a guy who isn't even on the roster, and actually works and occassionally books for a competing federation. If he didn't fire JBL after the Nazi salute incident in Germany, and his alleged incident with Storm, then he sure as hell isn't going to do jack about this.

He won't but that don't mean he shouldn't. Bob Holly should have been fired after what he did to Rene Dupree and the same applies here.

[Chavo Classic]

It's hard to have a reasonable argument with you, because you are not complacent and willing to forgive a guy for attacking someone, or acting unprofessionally. I mean, it happens, so we should just sit back and accept it, and watch it further escalate.

Definately not. JBL IS a bully backstage and his reactions to Meanie just prove this further. JBL is going to be a bully for a long long time unless more people like the Meanie stand up for themselves and what is right - not just in the wrestling industry, but society itself.

Put it this way, would this be tolerated in an office environment or any other workplace? HELL NO! It's just a shame JBL's actions soured the sentiments of the night for Meanie and other former members of the ECW locker-room.

[Chavo Classic]

He won't but that don't mean he shouldn't. Bob Holly should have been fired after what he did to Rene Dupree and the same applies here.

Yep, I agree. As the head of his company Vince is required by law and all morale guidance to do something to stop this kind of thing happening. It just might be very difficult to do so with JBL.

[Kane Knight]

He won't but that don't mean he shouldn't. Bob Holly should have been fired after what he did to Rene Dupree and the same applies here. Yeah, I think he was just arguing that if he's gotten away with all the other shit he's pulled, he'll get away with this. He really shouldn't, and I certainly don't appreciate this form of "frontier Justice" being condoned.

[Kane Knight]

Yep, I agree. As the head of his company Vince is required by law and all morale guidance to do something to stop this kind of thing happening. It just might be very difficult to do so with JBL.
Vince really isn't required by law to provide a safe work environment. They've gone out of their way to avoid that, in fact.

[Rob]

Yep, I agree. As the head of his company Vince is required by law and all morale guidance to do something to stop this kind of thing happening. It just might be very difficult to do so with JBL.

Vince doesn't have to do anything. His talent are all "independent contractors".

[The CyNick]

The bottom line is nobody knows why JBL did what he did.

Most people here are quick to jump to conclusions about him, because he's the big internet heel.

That was my main arguement, I dont know what happened in the past between them, I can think of a ton of reasons why a punch to the face would be warranted. I'm not going to hang the guy just because its Bradshaw.

Is Bret Hart unprofessional because he punched Vince in the face? Or do we accept that he had a good reason to do it? True it wasn't in the ring, which does make it somewhat different, but its not 'that' different, it still happened at a place of business. Its like saying a basketball played can get in trouble for assaulting another player ont he court, but cant get in trouble for assault int he lockerroom.

And I still dont see a huge difference between what Benoit does and what he did. Dont get me wrong, what JBL did IS worse, but at the same time, I'm sure a lot of guys would rather not get their chest lit up by Benoit. There's a way to throw a chop and not kill the guy like Benoit and guys like Holly do. I just dont think thats very far off from punching a guy in the face, guess what they both hurt and they both leave a mark.

Ive never once said JBL was right to do what he did, but people who think who should get fired for it are acting quite nutty. You're really going to get rid of one of your best talents because some jabrone ate a couple of punches? C'mon, its nice to 'act' all politically correct, but if you were in Vince's shoes would you really get rid of one of your top heels for that?

If assualt on another WWE employee (far worse assault I might add) is not going to result in dismissal, what makes anyone think assault on a non-WWE employee is going to lead to the unemployment line. Again, its an accepted norm in the company, if anything you guys should be ripping Vince, not JBL.

[Lamuella]

I like that you keep saying it was "a few punches" and ignore the fact that Meanie had to get STITCHED UP afterwards.

and your "politically correct" shit is a strawman

[The CyNick]

Never ignored anything.

[Lamuella]

so why keep describing the attack as "a few punches" when it left Meanie bleeding heavily?

[Loose Cannon]

I'll say this. What JBL did was totally uncalled for and he was 100% wrong there. You're suppossed to be in a great moment for the fans and not suppossed to be carrying out your grudges when you have a job to do. Attacking him from behind was really shitty too.

But I see the point CyNick is trying to make in that we all tend to jump on JBL for everything he does because he's JBL. In this sithuation, I think it's called for. In others (the Nazi thing) I didn't thing JBL deserved the backlash that he got.

We do play favorites at times though. When we were discussing the thing where Regal "showed up" Goldberg in thier match on Nitro, everyone (including myself) were laughing at Goldberg and praising Regal, yet what Regal did was totally unprofessional and never should of happened. So it should go both ways I guess

[Kane Knight]

Never ignored anything.
So you're just deliberately avoiding stuff, with intent to deceive?

[The CyNick]

So you're just deliberately avoiding stuff, with intent to deceive?

Wrong again.

I never avoided anything, I said he punched him, which is true, I also didn't mention that Bret Hart left a bruise on Vince face and twisted his ankle in the process. I try to keep things balanced.

[The CyNick]

We do play favorites at times though. When we were discussing the thing where Regal "showed up" Goldberg in thier match on Nitro, everyone (including myself) were laughing at Goldberg and praising Regal, yet what Regal did was totally unprofessional and never should of happened. So it should go both ways I guess

This is the thing that ticks me off about people here and on other sites.

They jump all over certain guys because they are marks for certain guys and have blinding hatred for others.

Never once did I say what JBL did was right, but because I say something that comes close to presenting another point of view on the situation, people jump on me. Which is fine, but nobody seems quick to address the other issues like Bret on Vince or like you said Regal on Goldberg.

[Mr. Marcus]

so why keep describing the attack as "a few punches" when it left Meanie bleeding heavily?


Meanie was nursing a huge stitched-up wound that he got from his Hardcore Homecoming a appearance. Point is, that was a fresh wound that really wouldn't need to take a whole lot of abuse to be re-openend.

[Corkscrewed]

Is Bret Hart unprofessional because he punched Vince in the face?
Absolutely, actually. Not in general, necessarily, but during that moment, he was absolutely unprofessional.

Same goes with JBL, except he's had a history of this sort of behavior, so we can characterize him as being unprofessional in general more.


I've been disagreeing with a lot of your posts recently, Cynick. What's going on???? :lol:

[Kane Knight]

Bret Hart did act unprofessionally there, yes.

I ask, so what?

[Kane Knight]

This is the thing that ticks me off about people here and on other sites.

They jump all over certain guys because they are marks for certain guys and have blinding hatred for others.

Never once did I say what JBL did was right, but because I say something that comes close to presenting another point of view on the situation, people jump on me. Which is fine, but nobody seems quick to address the other issues like Bret on Vince or like you said Regal on Goldberg.
Do you need help nailing the other hand up on that cross, Nick?

[Kane Knight]

Absolutely, actually. Not in general, necessarily, but during that moment, he was absolutely unprofessional.

Same goes with JBL, except he's had a history of this sort of behavior, so we can characterize him as being unprofessional in general more.


I've been disagreeing with a lot of your posts recently, Cynick. What's going on???? :lol:
Yes. The difference between an unprofessional act and an unprofessional person is the same as an offender and a habitual offender.

Steal once? Usually a pretty minor sentence. Steal a lot of times? You're probably fucked.

Get into a fight? Usually easy on you the first time, unless you go psycho on them. Get into a lot of fights? You're gonna do some time.

I admit though, it's a very difficult subject to grasp, so I can understand why Nick's up in arms over the concept that the guy who pulls shit like this more often gets more heat than the one who doesn't. It's just so unfair that a guy with an unprofessional attitude who has assaulted people before gets more shit for an incident than a guy who punched someone in the face once.

You know what? We've all done some stupid shit in our lives. I don't think anyone's on here pretending to be a saint. Even Fucking Ghandi did some questionable shit in his life. The difference between doing some stupid shit, fucking up, or performing an unprofessional act and making a career out of any of the above is simple: You stop performing the behaviour.

If this was the first time JBL had pulled this, Nick's argument would be valid.

[Corkscrewed]

Nuh-uh! Cuz JBL's a homo!





:shifty:

[Kane Knight]

LMAO!

[Corkscrewed]

When in Rome, do as the Romans. When in doubt, go with the classics.



Right?

[Kane Knight]

In that case....

STFU NERVOUSSE FAGGOT!

[darkpower]

This is the thing that ticks me off about people here and on other sites.

They jump all over certain guys because they are marks for certain guys and have blinding hatred for others.

Never once did I say what JBL did was right, but because I say something that comes close to presenting another point of view on the situation, people jump on me. Which is fine, but nobody seems quick to address the other issues like Bret on Vince or like you said Regal on Goldberg.
THANK YOU!!! :y:

[deathtrap]

The thing is about Bret Hart, is that he had been cheated in his last match, in front of his own town, with his own signatue move. He punched Vince on the same night.

While, after Meanie called JBL a bully a few years ago, JBL decided to attack him multiple times.

[The CyNick]

Bret Hart did act unprofessionally there, yes.

I ask, so what?

Its just that some people were saying JBL should be fired for assaulting someone, Ive never heard anyone say Bret Hart should be run out of town because he assaulted another person.

Again, its because people take a situation, examine the facts and make a judgement, they look at the people involved, and make decisions based on that.

[Rob]

Absolutely, actually. Not in general, necessarily, but during that moment, he was absolutely unprofessional.

Same goes with JBL, except he's had a history of this sort of behavior, so we can characterize him as being unprofessional in general more.


I've been disagreeing with a lot of your posts recently, Cynick. What's going on???? :lol:

Why was Bret Hart unprofessional?

[Rob]

Its just that some people were saying JBL should be fired for assaulting someone, Ive never heard anyone say Bret Hart should be run out of town because he assaulted another person.

Again, its because people take a situation, examine the facts and make a judgement, they look at the people involved, and make decisions based on that.


Maybe that's because Bret Hart did his thing like a man should. He confronted Vince about the situation, told him if he didn't walk that he'd get knocked out and once he didn't leave, he knocked him spark out one on one.

If you are going to confront someone, do it like a man one on one. That's all I'm saying. Doing in the ring with 40 guys around you and from behind like a coward makes you a complete pussy.

[Loose Cannon]

Maybe that's because Bret Hart did his thing like a man should. He confronted Vince about the situation, told him if he didn't walk that he'd get knocked out and once he didn't leave, he knocked him spark out one on one.

If you are going to confront someone, do it like a man one on one. That's all I'm saying. Doing in the ring with 40 guys around you and from behind like a coward makes you a complete pussy.

yea, that's exactly how I feel. If JBL would of just went up to Meanie in the back, off camera, off work etc... and confronted him about his problems, then fine. But to do it while you're suppossed to be "working" and while the guy doesn't even see it coming is not cool.

[Kane Knight]

Maybe that's because Bret Hart did his thing like a man should. He confronted Vince about the situation, told him if he didn't walk that he'd get knocked out and once he didn't leave, he knocked him spark out one on one.

If you are going to confront someone, do it like a man one on one. That's all I'm saying. Doing in the ring with 40 guys around you and from behind like a coward makes you a complete pussy.
CyNick likes it from the rear. :naughty:

[The CyNick]

Maybe that's because Bret Hart did his thing like a man should. He confronted Vince about the situation, told him if he didn't walk that he'd get knocked out and once he didn't leave, he knocked him spark out one on one.

If you are going to confront someone, do it like a man one on one. That's all I'm saying. Doing in the ring with 40 guys around you and from behind like a coward makes you a complete pussy.

Thats fine, thats fair enough.

But then your problem with him is that he's a cowardly fighter and not unprofessional. Because as we've determined Bret and others have been unprofessional like JBL has, and didn't recieve anywhere near the same amount of heat for it.

[The CyNick]

CyNick likes it from the rear. :naughty:

yo' momma

[Kane Knight]

Thats fine, thats fair enough.

But then your problem with him is that he's a cowardly fighter and not unprofessional. Because as we've determined Bret and others have been unprofessional like JBL has, and didn't recieve anywhere near the same amount of heat for it.
How often?

Or will you perpetually ignore this statement?

How often was Bret "unprofessional?"

[Kane Knight]

yo' momma
She's not man enough for you.

Unlike your sister. :p