WWE Raw thread June 20th "Will HHH go gay?"

[Savio]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/feature/29062/633102 (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/preview/428784/)

RAW's newest Superstar, Kurt Angle (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/kurtangle/), refuses to take a backseat to anybody. To prove this, Angle has already agreed to face World Heavyweight Champion Batista (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/batista/) in one-on-one action (<!--StartFragment -->VIDEO: 56k (http://javascript<img%20src=&quot;images/smilies/tongue.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Stick%20Out%20Tongue&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;5&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;% 20/>opwwevideo1('','raw/200506/13matchmaking56','Kurt%20Angle%20makes%20matches%20against%20Batista%20next%20week%20and%20HBK%20at% 20Vengeance','raw','56');) | 300k (http://javascript<img%20src=&quot;images/smilies/tongue.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Stick%20Out%20Tongue&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;5&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;% 20/>opwwevideo1('','raw/200506/13matchmaking300','Kurt%20Angle%20makes%20matches%20against%20Batista%20next%20week%20and%20HBK%20at %20Vengeance','raw','300');)). Will Angle's first RAW match since coming over in the Draft Lottery be a successful one? Has Batista bitten off more than he can chew before his huge Hell in a Cell Match with Triple H (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/tripleh/) at Vengeance? Watch RAW to find out.



Also this Monday night on Spike TV, RAW announces its third pick in the Draft Lottery. Eric Bischoff (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/ericbischoff/) has already acquired John Cena (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/johncena/) and Kurt Angle. Who's next? Tune in to find out.
Just weeks after filing for divorce, Lita is heading to the alter again. This time, the fiery redhead will marry Edge (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/edge/). Be sure to tune in to RAW Monday night to see these two tie the knot. <!--StartFragment -->VIDEO: 56k (http://javascript<img%20src=&quot;images/smilies/tongue.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Stick%20Out%20Tongue&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;5&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;% 20/>opwwevideo1('','raw/200506/13litaedge56','Lita%20announces%20that%20she%20and%20Kane%20will%20get%20married%20next%20week%20on% 20RAW','raw','56');) | 300k (http://javascript<img%20src=&quot;images/smilies/tongue.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Stick%20Out%20Tongue&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;5&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;% 20/>opwwevideo1('','raw/200506/13litaedge300','Lita%20announces%20that%20she%20and%20Kane%20will%20get%20married%20next%20week%20on %20RAW','raw','300');)
Also on RAW, meet the eight finalists in the 2005 $250,000 RAW Diva Search.

[Cool King]

Also on RAW, meet the eight finalists in the 2005 $250,000 RAW Diva Search.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Kane Knight]

That pic cracks me up for some reason.

[Kane Knight]

WWE Diva Search?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[RP]

Matt Hardy returns tonight!

[Marc the Smark]

Remember when we weren't allowed to start these threads before 8 pm?

[Crashnburn]

Matt Hardy returns tonight!

I wish! Of course if he did return, knowing WWE booking, he probably would feud with Edge for a month and then be lost to Heat forever.

[Kane Knight]

Remember the "retard Wars?"

[Marc the Smark]

I think I'll start the RAW thread at 6pm next Monday, and see what everyone says.

[Shadow]

I think I'll start the RAW thread at 6pm next Monday, and see what everyone says.

Thank you?

And it's the return of not only Matt Hardy but Jeff Hardy as well.

With Matt's newest main squeez...Shannon Moore.

[KingofOldSchool]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29272/618578

[mike627]

Meh, Raw will open with usual 20 min piss-break HHH promo.

[KingofOldSchool]

Meh, Raw will open with usual 20 min piss-break HHH promo.

Gee...last time I've checked, that hasn't happened in weeks.

Might want to start paying attention more often.

[Nark Order]

Who the hell cares about who starts the RAW thread? It's here isn't it??

Shut the fuck up.

[Shadow]

I'm with DH there.

Well not the lord and savior part but with the shutting the fuck up part.

[Kane Knight]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29272/618578
"Listen Lita...IT's natural..."

"I know, it wasn't...Your...Fault...We can try again later..."

[Kane Knight]

Thank you?

And it's the return of not only Matt Hardy but Jeff Hardy as well.

With Matt's newest main squeez...Shannon Moore.
Newest? More like oldest. They played Doctor a lot. ;)

[Shadow]

Bah I say!

[Nark Order]

I really hope Show isn't the draft pick.

[Shaved Monkey]

I am so going to clean up in WWE Fantasy tonight.

[Shadow]

I hope this will be a surpise draft pick...rather than Big Show

[Azriel]

Hopefully tonight will be good. We shall see

[Face Heely]

I had the same problem with Orton last week: I wanna see Show on RAW, because he's feuded with just about everyone on SD and the draft seems practically designed for wrestlers in this position; but I don't want to see him move just yet. Hopefully they'll surprise us with someone who's further down the card, but who adds to some aspect of a current storyline (i.e. Charlie freakin' Haas).

[Azriel]

Big Show needs a big push in general. I wouldnt mind seeing him on RAW

[Shadow]

What's so special about Hass anyways? Besides the fact that he sells just about as well as Ultimite Warrior.

I just want to see everyone's luck run out and they pick someone who's been jobbing alot and then gets a good push from the draft.

[SuperSlim]

come on Haas... or the other guy I mentioned in another thread but can't remember who it was right now

[Kane Knight]

Big Show needs a big push in general. I wouldnt mind seeing <s>him on RAW</s>Pushed off a cliff

[Shadow]

Starting.

[Azriel]

I love how they change the intro vid a bit every so often

[Shadow]

And we've got a Lita Sucks sign.

[Kane Knight]

What's so special about Hass anyways? Besides the fact that he sells just about as well as Ultimite Warrior.

I just want to see everyone's luck run out and they pick someone who's been jobbing alot and then gets a good push from the draft.
You're just jealous that he can fly without being pumped full o drugs.

[Kane Knight]

And we've got a Lita Sucks sign.
Yeah, like that's news. If she didn't, Edge wouldn't have as big a push.

[Azriel]

Yes, I've been KKed. My life now has meaning

[Shadow]

You're just jealous that he can fly without being pumped full o drugs.

Bah!

CENA!

[SuperSlim]

Dupreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, as a draft pick :shifty:

[Batsu]

Well, at least it didn't start with HHH.

[Azriel]

THE CHAMP IS HURRR!!

[Face Heely]

Tista/Angle should be good.

Interesting note - they didn't include Benoit/Orton in the "Draft Lottery" screen. I suppose that's evidence they're not even considering re-drafting?

[Kane Knight]

Hey! No Triple H Piss Break!

[Azriel]

Good to see Lillian announcing again.

[SuperSlim]

this should be interesting since we on Raw and he can say more stuff than poopie

[Azriel]

Cant wait to see Trish return tonight.

[mike627]

Anyone see that "Cena Sucks" sign?:lol:

[Kane Knight]

Is it me, or does Cena always look at the crowd like somebody just screamed GRENADE!!!!

[Shadow]

Someone got a haircut.

[SuperSlim]

:drool: Trishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :D

[SuperSlim]

Cena hair cut looks a lil goofy

[Azriel]

I'm not digging that haircut either, but damn its good to see Cena on RAW

[Kane Knight]

At the Hitler Youth depot.

[mike627]

:drool: Trishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :D She's gonna show-up? :?:

[Shadow]

Cena hair cut looks a lil goofy

A lil goofy? I'd say alot goofy.

[Face Heely]

It's like the Dean scream all over...

[Azriel]

Tag match tnight?

[Kane Knight]

HASSAN'D!

[RP]

Hassan :love:

[SuperSlim]

I see sand people

[Fenix122]

HASSAN'D!!

[Shadow]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see Tusken Raiders.

[mike627]

Hassan-time!

[KingofOldSchool]

Hahahahah this should be good.

[Kane Knight]

JR actually needed to ask what this was?

Or to state it wasn't JEricho?

[Fenix122]

damn KK beat me to it...

[Azriel]

She's gonna show-up? :?:
Supposed to. Uh-oh, Hassan going to get burned :D

[Kane Knight]

SNWA (Sand Niggers with Attitudes)

[Face Heely]

Hassan should just jut himself into every title scene.

[SuperSlim]

are we gonna hear a new rhyme?

[Batsu]

Hassan? WTF.

[Azriel]

Time to get Hassan'd chopped

[SuperSlim]

SNWA (Sand Niggers with Attitudes)

what's up :cool:

[Shadow]

Cena looks giggly.

[SuperSlim]

Cena should turn his cap thingy backwards. it's cooler lookin that way

[Batsu]

LMFAO Cena!!

Now this is great!

[Face Heely]

Cena's gonna make a racist joke somehow...I know it. He's already hit the gay joke.

[Shadow]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Cena still with the gay jokes.

[Azriel]

Here we go :lol:

[Batsu]

LMFAO!!!! Dammit Spike!!

[Shadow]

.....................no he didn't JR.

What the hell did he say?

[SuperSlim]

dang it censored again

[Kane Knight]

What did he just say?

[Kane Knight]

Asshole American?

[Batsu]

"Gay" joke or not, that was funny.
A lot better than that gay-ass "sand people" crap.

[Mayo]

Yeah WHAT DID HE SAY?

[Deceit]

Hah, atleast Cena's not as watered down as he was on smackdown anymore

[Azriel]

Most probably

[Face Heely]

He said something like "asshole-American"...Asshole something, anyway.

[Batsu]

Asshole American?

Pretty much.

[SuperSlim]

yeah I was thinkin asshole american

[Azriel]

Uhhh...why?

[RP]

Hassan wins the title tonight!

[SuperSlim]

does this mean Hassan is gonna lose his first match?

[mike627]

Damn! Cena Vs. Hassan!

[Shadow]

Probably. Can't say asshole on a live program apperently....

Though you can say it on FX.

And here comes the Davari spankings.

[Azriel]

Probably DQ

[Face Heely]

Okay, so Cena's in a feud with Christian and Y2J. Hassan's in a feud with Shelton Benjamin. How does this mixing of storylines build either?

[Kane Knight]

the FCC just Hassan'd Cena.

[KingofOldSchool]

I think he actually said "Assfucking American."

[SuperSlim]

i think you can't say it til hour two

[Shadow]

Well whatever he said...it got censored.

[Kane Knight]

Okay, so Cena's in a feud with Christian and Y2J. Hassan's in a feud with Shelton Benjamin. How does this mixing of storylines build either?
A storng win with one builds up the feuds?

[Kane Knight]

I think he actually said "Assfucking American." Could have been.

[Marc the Smark]

So they just dropped the angle with Cena/Jericho/Christian?

[Shadow]

Is it time for the wedding already!?

[Azriel]

Well, if they're gonna waste our time with the Divasearch, theyd better make it a whole lot more interesting than last year

[RP]

I love how she couldnt file for divorce when she hated Kane. :lol:

[KingofOldSchool]

CHARLIE HAAS

[mike627]

This outta be good....

[RP]

Here comes the PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paul London!

[SuperSlim]

oh man who is it

[Face Heely]

Big Show. Definately Big Show, with this build.

[RP]

nm Charlie Haas

[Marc the Smark]

It's Charlie Haas

[SuperSlim]

Haas is gonna be the pick :D

[Fenix122]

bringing out benjamin...could be haas then?

[Azriel]

Its Haas

[Mayo]

CHARLIE HAAS

[Deceit]

HASSSSSSSS

[Shadow]

Awww it's Charlie Hass

Damn it!

[Azriel]

Bisch forgot about Orton

[SuperSlim]

hey his record has been acknowledged

[Face Heely]

Big Show/Benjamin feud? Or is Shelton's presence here purely to point out that somebody actually benefitted from the draft last year? This show is confusing me, and not necessarily in the "I want to see what happens next!" way.

[Gone Mad]

WOOO! HI, EVERYBODY!

Mr. Benjs is in the house! Haas! Woo!

[Mayo]

Wait, KOOS said Big Show and changed it, and then I quoted him, so I thought Big Show originally.

[mike627]

CCC!

[Deceit]

WOW CARLITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SuperSlim]

I like that

come onnnnnnnnnnnn

Carlito?

[RP]

WOW

[Mayo]

FUCK NO!!!!!!! NOT HIM!!! SMACKDOWN IS DEAD

[Fenix122]

CARLITO!!!!

[Face Heely]

WTF?! NOOOOOO!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

CARLITO

[Batsu]

WTF?!!!!!!!

[V]

CAR FUCKING LITO, YESSSSSSSS

[Azriel]

Carlito? Okay.

[Shadow]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand.....

Smackdown is screwed!

[Deceit]

HOLY SHIT WHAT THE HELL HAHAHAHA

[SuperSlim]

cough *cough

Carlito

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

CARLITO!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gone Mad]

*** I SPIT IN THE FACE OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T THINK CARLITO IS COOL. ***

[Batsu]

SmackDown is indeed dead.

[McLegend]

HOLY SHIT

[Fenix122]

wow...

[RP]

Wow Wow WoW.. this match right now!

[owenbrown]

CARLITO?!?!?!?!?!?!? :eek:

[SuperSlim]

man Smackdown lost the Cabana

[Azriel]

History repeating itself?

[KingofOldSchool]

Shelton losses and goes back to Smackdown?

[Deceit]

Carlito wins the belt

[Face Heely]

No, no, no! He was so much better off on SD. He'd better get to keep the freakin' Cabana.

(And now Eddie and Carlito, my two favs, are on different shows. Blast.)

[Fenix122]

and matt morgan will fade back into obscurity

[Deceit]

Yep I agree, Shelton loses and back to smackdown

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

Man, I hate this draft. WWE is just wrecking Smackdown.

[SuperSlim]

whoa that wasn't cool

[Shadow]

Ow!

He may be hurt!

[Face Heely]

Ouch. Sick botch there.

[Azriel]

Big Show will probably be next week

[mike627]

the High-light reel vs. the cabana.

[Face Heely]

Ouch. Sick botch there. But Shelton did manage to twist to a slightly better landing...

[Mayo]

Looks like Smackdown might have just lost the Cabana but may soon gain the HIGHLIGHT REEL BABYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Deceit]

What happened? I had my head turned :(

[SuperSlim]

wonder who SmackDown could get

[KingofOldSchool]

Shelton vs. OJ on Thursday

[Gone Mad]

As much as I like Carlito on SD, Carlito on any show is cool with me.

And holy snikeys at that bad spill by Mr. Benjamin. Not cool.

[Marc the Smark]

We're all shocked, including myself.

But McMahon knows EXACTLY what he's doing... be patient.

[SuperSlim]

Shelton went to leap over the ropes on Carlito but his foot snagged the top rope as he was goin over and Carlito couldn't cath him enough and he fell on his back on the mat outside

[Volchok]

Send over Jericho, Triple H and Kane... that should slightly even it out with star power...

[Face Heely]

Looks like Smackdown might have just lost the Cabana but may soon gain the HIGHLIGHT REEL BABYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I really hope so. These guys are great heirs to Rowdy Roddy's tradition; they both deserve to keep their respective segments.

[Azriel]

Well, yeah, Vince is the mad genius

[PorkSoda]

Carlito on Raw...will he win the title in his first match like he did with Cena?

Shelton must have drank some Lita-Juice cause he just botched a suicide dive. Luckily he didn't land on his SHNOZZ! Imagine if Triple H did a suicide dive and he landed on his SHNOZZ?

[RP]

If Carlito spits apples in HHH's face. I'll nut everywhere.

[PullMyFinger]

Now that's cool!

[6to1]

all the good smackdown angles are going to raw, i guess bigshow will stay on smackdown now.

[Marc the Smark]

I hope JR learns Carlito's name soon... "Carribean Cool Carlito"

[Shadow]

It's CARLITO JR!

Yesh...at least Cole gets it right.

[Azriel]

Carlito's second gen? Who's his father? Anybody well known?

[SuperSlim]

if Carlito braided his fro... that'd be cool

[Fenix122]

JR keeps mispronouncing his name

[Shadow]

.....It's Carlito Caribian Cool retards!

Even King's botching his name now.

[Mayo]

Why are they calling him Caribbean Cool Carlito? :nono:

[KingofOldSchool]

Batista, Jericho, and maybe Shelton will end up on Smackdown.

[Bo]

Man, I hate this draft. WWE is just wrecking Smackdown.

Yeah its but think about it since SD is about to be on Friday might as well get the prime players on the "flagship" show.

[RP]

Carlito's second gen? Who's his father? Anybody well known?


KoKo B. Ware

[Azriel]

I'm with you Slim. That fro needs to be less aerodynamic

[PorkSoda]

Anyone see the guy with the Misfits shirt?

[Shadow]

Why are they calling him Caribbean Cool Carlito? :nono:

Because JR and King are retards.

[Azriel]

Damn. I did not know that.

[RP]

They're just making room for the full throttle RvD when he comes back.

[Face Heely]

I hope JR learns Carlito's name soon... "Carribean Cool Carlito"

There's a problem...RAW's commentary has never been as smart as SD's. JR/King may cheapen Carlito's (very smart) character with silly commentary...

[Batsu]

Well, at least you get to see Carlito wrestle. Man, Shelton rules.

[SuperSlim]

hmmm come on Shelton

[Kane Knight]

Dat's cool.

[Deceit]

Carlos Colon is his father

[KingofOldSchool]

Carlito's second gen? Who's his father? Anybody well known?

Carlos Colon, the Hulk Hogan of Puerto Rico.

[Azriel]

come on Shelton

[Face Heely]

His father's a huge star in Puerto Rico. Carlos Colon. There's the second-gen bit for ya.

[Batsu]

WTF?!! BULLSHIT!!

[SuperSlim]

of course

[PorkSoda]

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[RP]

HAHAHA THATS COOL

[Azriel]

Damn, history did repeat itself

[V]

won US title first night on smackdown
won IC title first night on raw

[mike627]

Now that is cool! :cool:

[Shadow]

And CCC again wins on his debut match and wins a title.

Way to drop the ball WWE.

:y: :y: :y: :y: :y:

[KingofOldSchool]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Shelton. :'(

[Face Heely]

Carlito as IC champ? Let me be the first (or second, or fifth, or something) to say: Dat's cool.

[Fenix122]

and carlito is the new IC champ

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

Yeah its but think about it since SD is about to be on Friday might as well get the prime players on the "flagship" show.

If they're gonna favor one show, why even have the roster split?

But I gotta say, Carlito winning the title, that's cool.

[Gone Mad]

HOLY

SHIT

CARLITO

IS

CHAMP

WOO!!!!!

[Batsu]

If Jericho does not win the title now and go to SmackDown....

[SuperSlim]

his debut on SD! he becomes the US champ. debut on Raw he wins the IC title

[wwe2222]

Carlito's father is Carlos Colon

He was in the 93 rumble I believe

[KingofOldSchool]

FUCK AND I SOLD CCC THIS MORNING ON THE FANTASY GAME.

[Azriel]

I saw that coming. Like I said, history repeats itself. Lets see what CCC does with it now

[Sepholio]

I predicted Carlito would be the draft pic, but I can't say I ever imagined this. And I don't think I like it.

Shelton will be drafted to SD now and beat OJ for the US Title, as well as reforming WGTT.

[KingofOldSchool]

If Jericho does not win the title now and go to SmackDown....

FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME.

CENA WILL NOT DROP THE MOTHERFUCKING TITLE.

BATISTA WILL END UP ON SMACKDOWN WITH THE WORLD TITLE.

[Shadow]

Stop that gon...you're making me cranky.

Let's keep raping Smackdown folks. Soon it'll just be that unwatchable.

[PorkSoda]

FUCK AND I SOLD CCC THIS MORNING ON THE FANTASY GAME.

Dat's not cool.

[wwe2222]

some of you already posted about Carlos Colon...sorry

[Loose Cannon]

LOL. YESSSSSSS.

He did it again.

Carlito is a much better champ.

[addy2hotty]

Triple H and Triple C on the same show?

Can't see it lasting.

[The One]

Not a huge fan of Carlito...but a bigger fan of him then I am of Shelty...so...

Dat's Cool.

[PullMyFinger]

How do you build a guy up for having an IC title reign of 10 months...then destroying him on Raw? It would've been better to have him battle against Haas (with Haas as the angry heel).

Then again, I should be happy....I'm always sick of title changes only on PPV, so I'm glad something changed for once on Raw!

[Loose Cannon]

smackdown is now officially getting raped

[Marc the Smark]

Triple H and Triple C on the same show?

Can't see it lasting.

why not?

[PullMyFinger]

oh and I should mention that CCC is better than Shelton.

[RP]

Matt Hardy is coming back.

[James Steele]

Edge looks like such a douche.

[Shadow]

It'll only be cool if he goes somewhere with it....

And this man has crooked teeth.

Can you just let some of your disgust show JR? Please?

[SuperSlim]

that wedding is gonna suck

[Sepholio]

Why do I have a feeling Matt Hardy will run out tonight?

[KingofOldSchool]

SHELTON IS THE MAN.

[Gone Mad]

awwwwww, Edge is getting mawwwwied. Oh, I hate that bastard. :love:

Maria :drool:

[mike627]

OFMG this wedding angle sucks,,,

[Loose Cannon]

How do you build a guy up for having an IC title reign of 10 months...then destroying him on Raw? It would've been better to have him battle against Haas (with Haas as the angry heel).

Then again, I should be happy....I'm always sick of title changes only on PPV, so I'm glad something changed for once on Raw!

how many people do you think even knew he had a 10 month reign?

I sure didn't

[Azriel]

Poor, naive Edge. Forgot about the last wedding, huh? I think the only WWE marrige that went well was Randy Savage/Elizabeth's wedding

[Shadow]

MARIA IS ON TV! FANTASY POINTS FOR ME!

And yet again...she asks the dumb ass comment.

[PorkSoda]

SPIT IN MARIAS FACE!

[SuperSlim]

she is the tits

[RP]

LOL

[Face Heely]

Spit in her face! YEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

HAHAHAHAHA

[PorkSoda]

HELL YEAH!!!!! :love: :drool: :rofl: :naughty:

[mike627]

LOL@ maria!

[V]

BIG VIS

[SuperSlim]

LIlliannnnnn!

[RP]

Lillian WTF.

[Fenix122]

BIG VIS THE PIMP!!! fantasy points for me

[Shadow]

AND SHE GOT SPAT ON!

Wonder if I get fantasy points for that.

[James Steele]

Shelton payed the price for not having enough charisma. OFF TO HEAT WITH YOU MWA HA HAH HAH HAH AHH A

[Azriel]

Maria got appled :lol:

[Deceit]

CARLITO IS THE FUCKING MAN

AND VISCERA IS A PIMP