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The Answer
07-12-2005, 12:20 AM
Well Hardy and the WWE sure got us. I must say nicely done :y: you sure taught internet fans a lesson you SOB'S :rant:.The Hardy punisher gimmick is back on and I think this shit was a total work....

edit your topic title you newbie

Mike the Metal Ed
07-12-2005, 12:30 AM
Might wanna edit the title so that the spoiler isn't ruined before you click on it.

Marc the Smark
07-12-2005, 12:35 AM
Might wanna edit the title so that the spoiler isn't ruined before you click on it.

you're right :y:

Mike the Metal Ed
07-12-2005, 12:38 AM
I'd still say that's a spoiler, don't mention Matt at all.

Savio
07-12-2005, 12:38 AM
Was the whole thing a work then? I remember Edges wife went on his site and alot of people thought it wasn't her and had some proof.

loopydate
07-12-2005, 12:41 AM
Maybe "Well, they really got us (RAW Spoilers)"?

BigDaddyCool
07-12-2005, 12:42 AM
four little words


angle of the year....


fucking brillant that was. I shit my pants

FearedSanctity
07-12-2005, 12:42 AM
Yeah, just cut it to "Well they really got us (Raw Spoliers)"

FearedSanctity
07-12-2005, 12:43 AM
Ah, beat to it

Sepholio
07-12-2005, 12:44 AM
Do you think it is possible that it was a one-off appearance for Hardy? I can't tell what to think yet.

Either way, I marked out like never before.

Bad Company
07-12-2005, 12:56 AM
Yeah, I really fell for it. :roll:

James Steele
07-12-2005, 12:58 AM
LOL, Having the spoiler in the title then putting (RAW Spoiler) isn't really effective.

den1982
07-12-2005, 01:18 AM
all a work good job hardy matt talk st'@ about wwe

Corkscrewed
07-12-2005, 01:34 AM
It wasn't all a work.... Lita fucked Edge... Matt makes a fuss... writers latch onto something good.

All good coincidence... unless upcoming news says otherwise.

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 01:37 AM
I agree whole-heartedly with Corkscrewed. DId anyone else catch Matt Hardy yelling "I'm still with Ring of Honor! R.O.H.!!!" What have we talking about all this time, people? WWE is fucking with us. US, the smart Internet fans. They're blurring the line between kayfabe and reality. Did you hear Matt call Edge his real name, but not Lita's? I'm telling you, he tried to sound like he was breaking kayfabe, but he slipped up when he called the former love of his life, the girl that broke his heart, by her "stage name."

I hereby call it antikayfabe, like the evil twin of kayfabe. I truly believe we're seeing a new direction for the WWE in terms of storytelling and plot development. If something happens backstage, they no longer try to hide it. They take advantage of it. They use it to their advantage. Why bury knowledge of its existence when you could make millions of dollars off of it?

Also, think about it: If Matt Hardy had gone on his web site after the "tease" and said "Dammit! I hate WWE! Blargh!" then I would agree that the entire thing (cheating, controversy, and all) was a work. Let me run down a list of what I believe is a work and what is real:

REAL: Lita cheated on Matt with Edge
REAL: Matt whines about it on his web site
REAL: WWE realizes the potential of fucking with us.
WORK: WWE releases Matt Hardy
REAL: WWE releases a shitload of talented people (sorry)
WORK: Matt Hardy "teases" an appearance at the wedding (planned)
WORK: Matt Hardy "invades" Raw and is "arrested".

That's what I think went down these past few months, anyway.

Tonight was the first time in a LOOOONG time that the WWE has truly shocked me. No pre-show spoilers, no rumors, only speculation.

Wow.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 01:40 AM
Yep. It was clearly ALL a work, because this last shit came out.

The same is true of all talent who badmouthed the WWE and vice versa. Paul Bearer, everyone on Austin leaving, Brock Lesnar trying out for the NFL, Hogan's last 90 times leaving the company, Piper getting fired...

It's all a work. Vince is a fucking genius.

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 01:43 AM
I edited my above post. I still maintain that it wasn't ALL a work. WWE made it into a work once they realized the power they had. Vince is brilliant.

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 01:45 AM
http://images.xylot.com/vincehair.jpg
Linda: VINCE! Give me your brain! I WANT IT NOW! I want your brilliance!

;)

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 01:48 AM
I wans't addressing you particularly, Terran.

Splaya
07-12-2005, 01:50 AM
Tell you what, this is going to be fued of the year. I watched it again and look at how well the crowd was behind him.

darkpower
07-12-2005, 01:55 AM
Well, if the WWE is really fucking around with us, don't you think that we have to stand up and say "we're not falling for it"? I mean, think about it. This might be a way to stick it to the internet fans, and for that, we may need to stick it back to them.

Mr. Obvious
07-12-2005, 01:55 AM
All due respect to Vince, you're giving him way too much credit. Seriously now, after the whole thing was leaked and caught on, a 3 years old could have seen the potential behind this feud. Vince just made the obvious move, that's all.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 01:58 AM
Yeah, but Vince pushed the pudding.

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 01:59 AM
Yes, but it's a move that, 5 years ago, Vince would've scoffed at, or even insulted anyone for ever thinking of it. I think he's finally seen the light as to how the Internet can be useful to him.

On a similar note, I truly believe that Brock Lesnar is Vince's way of gauging whether or not he can be successful at starting his OWN Internet controversy or make Internet fans talk himself, as opposed to feeding off of other peoples' controversy and adopting it. I believe Vince is using Brock as a way of seeing if he can be successful at creating his own smart fans.

He's playing the role of Dr. Frankenstein. :p

And darkpower, you kinda have a point, but I'm actually more interested in just lying back and seeing how this all plays out.

And yeah, I know I was giving Vince way too much credit...but still, it's pretty damn cool. ;)

Savio
07-12-2005, 02:00 AM
Maybe this was a one time thing.

darkpower
07-12-2005, 02:03 AM
Yeah, but Vince pushed the pudding.
Something I need to ask is how the pudding would be able to do a blade job.

Evil Vito
07-12-2005, 02:09 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah.....that was brilliant.....they did a great job of making it look legit (with the mentioning of RoH and everything), the only dead giveaway to internet fans being that Matt called her "Lita", not "Amy".

Still, kudos to WWE.......that's 2 angles now that they've used the Internet for...</font>

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 02:09 AM
Maybe this was a one time thing.

Somehow I serously doubt that. Something this big? The WWE could make tons of money off of it. I smell a return, if not next week.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:09 AM
Yes, but it's a move that, 5 years ago, Vince would've scoffed at, or even insulted anyone for ever thinking of it. I think he's finally seen the light as to how the Internet can be useful to him.

On a similar note, I truly believe that Brock Lesnar is Vince's way of gauging whether or not he can be successful at starting his OWN Internet controversy or make Internet fans talk himself, as opposed to feeding off of other peoples' controversy and adopting it. I believe Vince is using Brock as a way of seeing if he can be successful at creating his own smart fans.

He's playing the role of Dr. Frankenstein. :p

And darkpower, you kinda have a point, but I'm actually more interested in just lying back and seeing how this all plays out.

And yeah, I know I was giving Vince way too much credit...but still, it's pretty damn cool. ;)
Okay, that's the problem. Once again, Vince wants control. the WWF did WCW THEIR WAY, and it bombed (InVasion is often hyped as one of the biggest disappointments in history). They did Goldberg and the nWo THEIR WAY, and it bombed. They pushed Cena VINCE'S way, and it sucked (Poopoo? Yeah). Vince is a control freak, and I don't know if he can learn from his past follies.

Yeah, so he'd be better off letting the dirt sheets do his work for him. This won't have the same level of hype as Matt returning.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:10 AM
Something I need to ask is how the pudding would be able to do a blade job.
Carefully.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:10 AM
Somehow I serously doubt that. Something this big? The WWE could make tons of money off of it. I smell a return, if not next week.
Yeah, this would be the dumbest thing since running with Katie Vick.

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 02:13 AM
Sorry KK, I wasn't saying that the Brock-Vince idea of creating their own controversy was cool. I was talking about the Matt situation. I agree that Vince is a control freak and needs to do things his way, which is why he's trying to run the Internet fans HIS way. And it will fail. I forgot to mention that. :p But yeah, poor choice of words in that last post. :)

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 02:14 AM
Yeah, this would be the dumbest thing since running with Katie Vick.

Are you comparing a Matt Hardy cameo to a necrophelia angle?

Bring back Katie Vick!!!

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:15 AM
Are you comparing a Matt Hardy cameo to a necrophelia angle?

Bring back Katie Vick!!! Lita botched life, so pretty much it IS.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:20 AM
Sorry KK, I wasn't saying that the Brock-Vince idea of creating their own controversy was cool. I was talking about the Matt situation. I agree that Vince is a control freak and needs to do things his way, which is why he's trying to run the Internet fans HIS way. And it will fail. I forgot to mention that. :p But yeah, poor choice of words in that last post. :)
Actually, the Brock thing is cool. But it's also so...Fake...If they're hoping to stir people up, this AIN'T the way to do it. IMO.

I think it's a great way to build up an obvious return, but IF the intent is to leave people hanging, it's going to shock people about as much as an Arab-character being heel.

Mr. JL
07-12-2005, 02:26 AM
I think the ROH fans may boo the shit out of Matt now

Fignuts
07-12-2005, 02:29 AM
Called it bitches!!!

Shadow
07-12-2005, 02:50 AM
Fucking hell this is a work! I'll kill the entire family.

And that ROH mention at the end...he was saying he's going to commit to his ROH dates, that's all.

Ok..next week Jeff shows up. Week after that, Shannon shows up...week after that some random chick they found off the street. That's how this'll work out.

GOD FUCKING DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!

Someone1001
07-12-2005, 02:54 AM
Y'know, this is kind of a scary thought...but what if not all the releases were real? And Hardy leads a bunch of 'fired' wrestlers in revolt against the WWE? They can sit in the crowd and stuff, kinda like what Raven's Flock did way back in WCW. Well, at least I think it's a neat idea.

Fox
07-12-2005, 03:02 AM
I think Hardy should stay off WWE TV for a couple of weeks, if not a month, before making his next "appearance." Hell, why not make it during Edge's "Money in the Bank" Title match on a PPV? He said he would make Edge and Lita's lives a living hell - he ought to screw with them at planned and cunning intervals - not every week. That would ruin the whole thing. They should build this thing up until WrestleMania.

This is going to be good.

Innovator
07-12-2005, 03:07 AM
I'm going to ROH on Saturday, after being there live for Matt coming back...yeah the crowds are going to be polar opposites.

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 03:12 AM
He's claiming it was Real Shoot

Souce: The Message Boards on TheMattHardy.com

If you guys are ready for a ride, jump the f*ck on. Well, I promised you all fireworks, so I hope I didn't disappoint. As of July 11th, 2005, my personal Independence Day, the Movement has begun-- and the Movement's purpose is two-fold. Purpose one--To never let anyone control what Matt Hardy says and does and thinks. Purpose two--To make Adam Copeland, Amy Dumas, and the WWE regret what they did to me, what they did to us. It's time for Matt Hardy to stand up for all the MFer's that have been chanting "We Want Matt", and "You Screwed Matt". Although you may not know this--you guys, the MFers, started the Movement months ago. I can now finally join the Movement because I am no longer controlled by the WWE. The McMahons, the Johnny Aces, and all of the WWE management can kiss my @$$. I did what I did tonight because for me to live with myself, Adam "Feces" Copeland must pay. I'm not going to let the WWE forget that they f*cked up when they released me instead of that scumbag home-wrecker. And Amy Dumas, you know what's it's like to have me as your closest ally--but you're gonna hate to see what it's like to have me as your worst enemy b*tch. Even though I didn't slash your tires FCF, slashed tires are going to be the least of your problems--Bank on it. A little message to the whore, the feces, and the horsesh*t "family" that is the WWE--Matt Hardy is like cancer, I don't go away and you won't find a cure. I thank EVERYONE that has supported me through thick and thin--I promise I will always be there for my MFers. I love you guys--and as I always say, without you, there is no me. I am going to turn a hugely negative situation into something that will benefit us. If you don't want to be able to predict what happens next, you're all in for a treat.

P.S. - If you're thinking about pressing charges Vince, I got a couple bucks, I'll fight it. Besides, I think I might have some pixs and video from a camera phone that shows your officers Rodney Kinging my @$$. My wrist is cut from the handcuffs, and I would suggest that there was a little unnecessary roughness involved in kicking me out of your building.

P.S.S. - And don't forget to catch Matt Hardy in action this Friday in Indiana, PA, this Saturday in Woodbridge, CT, and you never know where I'll show up on Sunday. And The Matt Hardy Show is so on...

Matt "F*cking" Hardy

Savio
07-12-2005, 03:14 AM
and one of his fans said this,

Screw you hardy, you sellout

Nice fake punches.

Nice having the mic work for you when you needed it.

Nice getting two segments in and minutes of airtime before they caught you.

Nice having the guards be in place.

Nice having WWE Cameras catch it all.

Nice haing WWE having Edge do a scene walking to the ring, just in time for you.

Nice having the guards not get to you seconds later after you are finishing talking.

I love how it fit WWE's LIVE! Air time perfectly.

Some freedom, eh Matty? First day off you go back. I love how you got passed all the security to get in in the first place.

You arn't stupid. You should know if it was real WWE Inc. wouldn't have to press charges, considering authority saw the whole thing along with Video footage.

Screw you hardy, you sellout

Nice fake punches.

Nice having the mic work for you when you needed it.

Nice getting two segments in and minutes of airtime before they caught you.

Nice having the guards be in place.

Nice having WWE Cameras catch it all.

Nice haing WWE having Edge do a scene walking to the ring, just in time for you.

Nice having the guards not get to you seconds later after you are finishing talking.

I love how it fit WWE's LIVE! Air time perfectly.

Some freedom, eh Matty? First day off you go back. I love how you got passed all the security to get in in the first place.

You arn't stupid. You should know if it was real WWE Inc. wouldn't have to press charges, considering authority saw the whole thing along with Video footage.

Screw you hardy, you sellout

Nice fake punches.

Nice having the mic work for you when you needed it.

Nice getting two segments in and minutes of airtime before they caught you.

Nice having the guards be in place.

Nice having WWE Cameras catch it all.

Nice haing WWE having Edge do a scene walking to the ring, just in time for you.

Nice having the guards not get to you seconds later after you are finishing talking.

I love how it fit WWE's LIVE! Air time perfectly.

Some freedom, eh Matty? First day off you go back. I love how you got passed all the security to get in in the first place.

You arn't stupid. You should know if it was real WWE Inc. wouldn't have to press charges, considering authority saw the whole thing along with Video footage.

http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/pukeboy77/mattnuts.jpg

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:18 AM
Ain't it super keen about that?
I mean...these are the same idiots who've been wanting Matt back in the WWE. The second he comes back, the very second, they're all like, "I hope you get your ass chanted out of ROH!" Annoys me to no end

But here's hoping this will be something that'll last at least till SS...cause then I get my chance to shine.

Savio
07-12-2005, 03:21 AM
nah there's only like 7 there that hate him now.

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 03:21 AM
LMAO at one of his fans turning on him

Deceit
07-12-2005, 03:23 AM
Who would've thought that the most ridiculous pregnancy/romance angle in the history we thought at the beginning was gonna turn out to this.

Greatest angle ever indeed.

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:24 AM
ok for all you bandwagon jumpers that said u were matt hardy fans and traded on him cause this, ...it wasnt set up!!! i kno people may have said it but hear me out...

when edge and lita where in the back walking the music came on, and we all kno once the music comes on it goes to commercials then matt came in the music stopped beat up edge ( god bless you matt) and then ran off

then when he came in the ring did u see them fist fighting? pulling hair? that wasnt set up!! and the security even came in and pulled them apart

and honestly u think vince would actually let him call lita a whore and that wwe can kiss his @$$? umm no

and those guys tackled matt and got him handcuffs!!

for all you fags that said it was all fake the whole break up and stuff

proof enough its not fucking fake!

im jus pointin this out for all the jerks that dont get it

and real MF'ERS will be right on my side defending matt!!

and if that damn vince or wwe sues matt...so help me god wwe can french kiss me @$$ and i will help pay for whatever dumb charges are against matt!

im sorry for the swearing but im trying to get a point out here!

it wasnt fake! mfers by my side!!


-THE Kyle Hal

Yeah...

Deceit
07-12-2005, 03:24 AM
REAL: Lita cheated on Matt with Edge
REAL: Matt whines about it on his web site
REAL: WWE realizes the potential of fucking with us.
WORK: WWE releases Matt Hardy
REAL: WWE releases a shitload of talented people (sorry)
WORK: Matt Hardy "teases" an appearance at the wedding (planned)
WORK: Matt Hardy "invades" Raw and is "arrested".


^--- agreed

Savio
07-12-2005, 03:28 AM
Ur a fucking moron, the rest of u that are putting it against Matt Hardy, shut the (radio edit) up, matt hardy would never lie to us or mislead us in anyway, my sugestion is that u were never a true supporter of matt hardy

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:29 AM
Yeah cause no one in the WWE has ever lied to us.

Right HBK?

Nark Order
07-12-2005, 03:30 AM
I have never been more excited for any other angle in my entire life...

Savio
07-12-2005, 03:33 AM
YOu are fucking Retard! :lol:

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:35 AM
This entire board would be destroyed if all of those idiots posted on here. We do realize that right?

Savio
07-12-2005, 03:35 AM
I want to register there how can I

Nark Order
07-12-2005, 03:35 AM
Wow, thet really had me here. After the first attack, they just completely ignored it and Lita came to the ring with a genuine looking "Oh shit" look on her face.

Brilliant

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 03:35 AM
Yeah, it was real, which is why they didn't cut his mic, they wait til after he said his shit to tackle him, and they kept him on camera.

Gouda
07-12-2005, 03:37 AM
I like the way they aren't acknowledging this thing at all.

The announcers didn't mention him at all.

WWE.com doesn't mention him in their review.

They don't have any photos with him.

PureHatred
07-12-2005, 03:38 AM
I don't even know. This feels like that instant of realization in the first Matrix when Neo sits up in the pod and you realize that the whole world is fake. It''s that kind of epiphany.

Basically, the writers lucked into a brilliant angle, but have probably had this planned for months and now everything that felt real about this is suddenly phony. I want to say Matt Hardy saying this was a shoot on his site is a pussy move, but it actually makes total sense.

Liek I said in my "retards have computers" thread, the line between reality is blurirng and obviously there are some hardcore marks out there who will believe forever that this was all real. But the WWE is doing a brilliant job of controlling the reality of this situation. Even now, they didn't metion it live, they didn;t mention it on their site in the Raw recap, and they're actually building the storyline by pretending it never happened.

And let's face it: no one can say with a 100% certainty that this wasn't a work from day one. All the information that came out came from either a)Hardy himself or b) Net sites that were probably quoting sources in the WWE. If that's not controlling the media, then I don't know what is.

The Republican party could learn something from the WWE.

I know its an angle now. But where the angle started and the reality ended..I just don't know. That's the brilliance.

Sign me up for Shadow's insane conspiracy theories. I'm readynow.

Kris P Lettus
07-12-2005, 03:38 AM
http://onguardhost.com/matthardy1.jpg

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 03:39 AM
Yeah, it was real, which is why they didn't cut his mic, they wait til after he said his shit to tackle him, and they kept him on camera.

Of course because no one would ever dream of interrupting someone :shifty:

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:42 AM
I don't even know. This feels like that instant of realization in the first Matrix when Neo sits up in the pod and you realize that the whole world is fake. It''s that kind of epiphany.

Basically, the writers lucked into a brilliant angle, but have probably had this planned for months and now everything that felt real about this is suddenly phony. I want to say Matt Hardy saying this was a shoot on his site is a pussy move, but it actually makes total sense.

Liek I said in my "retards have computers" thread, the line between reality is blurirng and obviously there are some hardcore marks out there who will believe forever that this was all real. But the WWE is doing a brilliant job of controlling the reality of this situation. Even now, they didn't metion it live, they didn;t mention it on their site in the Raw recap, and they're actually building the storyline by pretending it never happened.

And let's face it: no one can say with a 100% certainty that this wasn't a work from day one. All the information that came out came from either a)Hardy himself or b) Net sites that were probably quoting sources in the WWE. If that's not controlling the media, then I don't know what is.

The Republican party could learn something from the WWE.

I know its an angle now. But where the angle started and the reality ended..I just don't know. That's the brilliance.

Sign me up for Shadow's insane conspiracy theories. I'm readynow.

Finnally! People will belive me! And all it took was Matt Hardy showing up on RAW the way he did.

I feel like the Question now though. Ahh well.

Bottom line is PH is quite right. Even the Retards Have Computers is just what the WWE is banking on. Take a look at what the idiots on his site are saying. That's what Vince is looking for. Wait for Lesner to come back. Quite possibly this thursday. Or hell, GAB. Then the Internet responce will dictate what happens next. And I think with Matt Hardy/Edge at least...it'll probably be around at least until Mania. Which would rock.

Now...who else wants to know about my insane theories of conspiricy? We can be the Lone Gunmen!

Watson
07-12-2005, 03:45 AM
WORK: WWE releases Matt Hardy


^--- agreed
I'm quite sure Hardy's release was for real but after Vince saw all the fans chanting "We Want Matt" and "You Screwed Matt" he realized that having an on-air storyline between Hardy/Edge/Lita would be big business. So he hired Hardy back. All the "dirt sheets" have been reporting for weeks that the WWE have asked Hardy to hold off on signing any contracts. Now we know why.

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 03:46 AM
Now...who else wants to know about my insane theories of conspiricy? We can be the Lone Gunmen!

The Lone Gunmen! :love:

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:48 AM
The Lone Gunmen! :love:

You can be the hot FBI agent who sometimes helps us.

Hired Hitman
07-12-2005, 03:48 AM
"The real world is faker than wrestling" - Mick Foley

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 03:50 AM
You can be the hot FBI agent who sometimes helps us.

Works for me :lol:

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:50 AM
"The real world is faker than wrestling" - Mick Foley

Gotta agree with Mr. Foley there. The real world is alot faker than wrestling.

Savio
07-12-2005, 03:51 AM
That'd be cool if he invaded with some more released guys next week.

Shadow
07-12-2005, 03:52 AM
That'd be cool if he invaded with some more released guys next week.

Here's how it'll go down.

Next week his brother will show up with him. Then Shannon Moore. Then Test. Finnaly, they'll show up with Akio, Jamie Noble, Raven, D'Lo, all three of the Dudlys, and Hiroko and all of these people will just beat the shit out of Edge.

Nark Order
07-12-2005, 03:57 AM
lol!! Never know what the hell is gonna happe now...

LK
07-12-2005, 04:04 AM
If Madman reads this, what did you say you would eat if Matt returned?

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 04:11 AM
I don't remember exactly but I think it was something and half his dog

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 04:16 AM
Found it, Madman said

Matt Hardy is NOT returning to WWE now. If he comes out tonight or in the next PPV, I'm eating my hat and half of my dog (the front half).

Shadow
07-12-2005, 04:19 AM
Damn not the back half? That idiot.

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 04:22 AM
it's a conspiricy :shifty:

Shadow
07-12-2005, 04:28 AM
it's a conspiricy :shifty:

Everything is my dear. Glad to see a few more people are now on board.

LK
07-12-2005, 07:21 AM
Originally Posted by gonMad00
Matt Hardy is NOT returning to WWE now. If he comes out tonight or in the next PPV, I'm eating my hat and half of my dog (the front half).
Madman, I want photographic evidence

Jonster
07-12-2005, 07:52 AM
and one of his fans said this,
Did said fan really post the same thing three times in a row like that?

The Answer
07-12-2005, 08:04 AM
Man,im totally believing this was a shoot now. I mean Hardy got arrested and yet still had time to write up a message on his website the same day :roll: .

The Mackem
07-12-2005, 08:42 AM
Right if the Matt Hardy thing is a work, what does that make him to the fans? I mean he's a face to half of the internet community who thought he got a shitty deal by being released but he is the biggest arsehole to live to his psycho fans who go to the Matt Hardy boards offering their support. To the regular fans who don't have the internet he's a face because of the references Edge and Lita have been making over the last few weeks.

It's a really good angle based on what some of you have said, you can't tell 100% what were the real parts and what are the works. You could branch out into 100 different combinations of what happened from complete all out work from the very beginning i.e Edge/Lita/Hardy idea for a storyline to complete real events. The genius about this is you don't know what is going to happen next.

Certainly a highlight of the year.

FearedSanctity
07-12-2005, 08:52 AM
...and you never know where I'll show up on Sunday.
If Hardy shows up at the TNA PPV this Sunday, I will be fucking BEYOND confused...

The Mackem
07-12-2005, 09:20 AM
Yeah if Matt Hardy has a pay per appearance deal with every major promotion, it would be as funny as fuck.

Splaya
07-12-2005, 09:25 AM
Man,im totally believing this was a shoot now. I mean Hardy got arrested and yet still had time to write up a message on his website the same day :roll: .

What's funny is that we were all supposed to be loving HBK's turn last night. And all we can talk about it Matt Fucking Hardy :love:

Azriel
07-12-2005, 09:56 AM
Hmm, I tried registering on the board, but it keeps sending me to the main forum page

Afterlife
07-12-2005, 10:30 AM
Yeah...or it's all just a shoot. :shifty:

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 11:56 AM
What's funny is that we were all supposed to be loving HBK's turn last night. And all we can talk about it Matt Fucking Hardy :love:
Yeah. I don't know why. Could it be Michaels was boring last night?

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 11:58 AM
Man,im totally believing this was a shoot now. I mean Hardy got arrested and yet still had time to write up a message on his website the same day :roll: .
Of course it's real. I mean, he could have been bailed out at 11 PM at night. It happens all the time (Even though there was no way he could have been seen by a judge until Today).

tucsonspeed6
07-12-2005, 11:58 AM
I don't get Hardy fans.

A week ago, a typical MFer would say, "I hate the WWE! They fired Matt so I won't ever see him on my TV again! What they should have done was given him a huge angle to work with that would help in pushing him to the moon. I hate the WWE and I'll never watch their shows again!"

Today it's "I hate you Matt. You're a sellout. Even though I said I'd never watch the hated WWE ever again, I watched it and saw you on their show last night, and now I hate you because you're a sellout and a liar! The WWE sucks because they tricked me into thinking you're gone, but then they gave you an angle that could potentially be as big as the Outsiders. V.1 could be the next nWo and you're probably gonna be successful now. I hate you for that."

Then they probably go out and burn the emo mix tape they made for when they're feeling like crying in their pillow for unemployed Matt. They call their other MFer friends over so they can have a big bonfire with their mix tapes, and afterwards they all gorge themselves on icecream and make new emo mix tapes with the exact same songs in the same order and label them "Matt suxorzzZ" and listen to them when they go online and tell everyone on the internet that Matt really has "X-pac heat." Then they cry in their pillows over still employed Matt.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 12:00 PM
I don't get Hardy fans.

A week ago, a typical MFer would say, "I hate the WWE! They fired Matt so I won't ever see him on my TV again! What they should have done was given him a huge angle to work with that would help in pushing him to the moon. I hate the WWE and I'll never watch their shows again!"

Today it's "I hate you Matt. You're a sellout. Even though I said I'd never watch the hated WWE ever again, I watched it and saw you on their show last night, and now I hate you because you're a sellout and a liar! The WWE sucks because they tricked me into thinking you're gone, but then they gave you an angle that could potentially be as big as the Outsiders. V.1 could be the next nWo and you're probably gonna be successful now. I hate you for that."

Then they probably go out and burn the emo mix tape they made for when they're feeling like crying in their pillow for unemployed Matt. They call their other MFer friends over so they can have a big bonfire with their mix tapes, and afterwards they all gorge themselves on icecream and make new emo mix tapes with the exact same songs in the same order and label them "Matt suxorzzZ" and listen to them when they go online and tell everyone on the internet that Matt really has "X-pac heat." Then they cry in their pillows over still employed Matt.
Wow. Because 2 or 3 people started flipping out over Matt rejoining the WWE, you make a generalisation of his fans. JEsus Christ man, no wonder you got so huffy over Christian comments. You probably think everyone's as big a bigoted asshole as you are.

TerranRich
07-12-2005, 12:20 PM
:lol: Anyway...

I know its an angle now. But where the angle started and the reality ended..I just don't know. That's the brilliance.

Precisely. And it's all starting to make sense now. Remember when WWE.com suddenly started advertising their releases? I don't mean just recently, I mean starting with Rhyno, Molly Holly, all those. One can argue that it started with Rhyno. They were just testing the waters, to see how people would react to seeing a released superstar on WWE programming (albeit ECW was used as a coverup). If it weren't for the Diva Search, I'd say that Molly Holly would return soon as well.

I'm interested in seeing how this "antikayfabe" stuff all works out.

tucsonspeed6
07-12-2005, 12:22 PM
http://onguardhost.com/matthardy1.jpg

Looks like Scott Hall and X-pac had a baby.

Marcyo
07-12-2005, 12:35 PM
Madman, I want some photographic evidence

Me too. :p

Corkscrewed
07-12-2005, 12:59 PM
LOL @ the Matt Hardy fanboys/girls. Well, the turncoats and the ones who think it was real.

Matt shouldn't have posted the message... keep us in suspense. You post that and it basically invalidates the mystery. Getting arrested and then posting a message so quickly? Yeah... ok... like anyone who really got arrested would then make a threat so fast.

So unwise move on Matt by posting, but other than that, this has been a pretty awesome way of taking advantage of what's happened.

For the record, I say Matt Hardy really was fired, but Vince will never hesitate to hire back people to make money. And I'm sure money heals a lot of wounds.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 01:10 PM
LOL @ the Matt Hardy fanboys/girls. Well, the turncoats and the ones who think it was real.
[....]
For the record, I say Matt Hardy really was fired, but Vince will never hesitate to hire back people to make money. And I'm sure money heals a lot of wounds.
The ones who think it's real are the saddest. With all the empathy poured towards Matt, I can't totally blame the fanboys for feeling betrayed. He did cash in on all his sympathy...

...And yes, I don't get why people seem to think it's unreasonable to think that Matt was fired, and then rehired. I mean, not only has it happened before, but the response from the fans was OVERWHELIMING.

Vastardikai
07-12-2005, 01:17 PM
That is very possible, but that's part of it. I think the goal of wrestling is to "Suspend Disbelief." That goal was accomplished last night.

Just John
07-12-2005, 01:20 PM
So Matt wasn't really fired...interesting




Mabye there is hope D-X will come back and we will forever live in the attitude era. :love:

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 01:25 PM
That is very possible, but that's part of it. I think the goal of wrestling is to "Suspend Disbelief." That goal was accomplished last night.
The goal of wrestling is to entertain. How that is accomplished depends on who's doing it.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 01:26 PM
So Matt wasn't really fired...interesting




Mabye there is hope D-X will come back and we will forever live in the attitude era. :love:
DX is back. How Who do you think insisted Lesnar return?

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 01:38 PM
The goal of wrestling is to entertain. How that is accomplished depends on who's doing it.

Dam straight, there's never been a better time to be a smark, or further more, a smark on a wrestling forum.

Seriously, this is entertaining as hell, and for the first time in several weeks I'm watching Raw with anticipation rather than the unusual notion of feeling obliged to watch.

Shadow
07-12-2005, 02:17 PM
Try talking to some of these idiots. The all belive it's either real or Matt's a sellout.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:23 PM
Try talking to some of these idiots. The all belive it's either real or Matt's a sellout.
They're both right. ;)

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 02:30 PM
Try talking to some of these idiots. The all belive it's either real or Matt's a sellout.


They're angry because they're naive, guliable and got fooled big time.

Shadow
07-12-2005, 02:34 PM
Or think that they've got some "special" connection to Matt because he posts on an internet message boad.

They've got more of a connection to my ass than they do to Matt Hardy.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:36 PM
Kinky

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 02:40 PM
...They've got more of a connection to my ass than they do to Matt Hardy.


Aren't they the same thing?

BWAAAA HAAA HAAA HAA HAA....









:shifty:

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:42 PM
Posted this to a friend explaining the sitch to him. Checklist for anyone who thinks this was a shoot.

Okay, so Matt HArdy busted into Raw last night, and everyone thinks it's real because he got handcuffed and taken out of there.

Ignore the fact that security wait until AFTER he grabbed a mic and said his piece. Ignore the fact that the mic was live, meaning they were expecting it to be used. Ignore the fact that they didn't cut him off. Ignore the fact that before coming to ringside, he attacked Edge backstage, so security should have caught him. Ignore the fact that security wouldn't take him up the ring, where more cameras would catch him, and that it would require moving a hostile man closer to both fans and the announce team.

How the fuck was he running around and posting on his website by midnite? He wouldn't even be PROCESSED by then.
Also, Matt Hardy would still be in jail right now, almost guaranteed. Since the earliest he could get out of jail would have been this morning in all reality. That is, presuming his lawyer could even get him up in the queue.

By the time he posted that, they wouldn't have even been done "processing" him.

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 02:44 PM
...By the time he posted that, they wouldn't have even been done "processing" him.

Hopefully this means processing his ass with a hand in a lubed up rubber glove.

On second thoughts, hopefully no lube at all.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:46 PM
Aren't they the same thing?

BWAAAA HAAA HAAA HAA HAA....









:shifty:
He said Matt, not Jeff.

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 02:46 PM
Its a good point though KK, if anyone whose been to a live event and seen someone try get into the ring, you'll know they pretty much get slaughtered.

If this was a shoot then there's no way Hardy would even get close enough to Edge. Plus, who would've let Hardy backstage - conviently just in time for the cameras to catch his attack on Edge.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:46 PM
Hopefully this means processing his ass with a hand in a lubed up rubber glove.

On second thoughts, hopefully no lube at all.
:naughty:

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 02:46 PM
He said Matt, not Jeff.


owned :'(

Shadow
07-12-2005, 02:48 PM
That you are CJJ.....

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:48 PM
Its a good point though KK, if anyone whose been to a live event and seen someone try get into the ring, you'll know they pretty much get slaughtered.

If this was a shoot then there's no way Hardy would even get close enough to Edge. Plus, who would've let Hardy backstage - conviently just in time for the cameras to catch his attack on Edge.
With a few touches they could have made it look pretty realistic. And that woulda been cool. Imagine if Matt had never picked up a pic, for example? I mean, when wrestlers shout, we normally hear them anyway.

Shadow
07-12-2005, 02:51 PM
With a few touches they could have made it look pretty realistic. And that woulda been cool. Imagine if Matt had never picked up a pic, for example? I mean, when wrestlers shout, we normally hear them anyway.

Not really...but if this was Bubba however....

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 02:52 PM
With a few touches they could have made it look pretty realistic. And that woulda been cool. Imagine if Matt had never picked up a pic, for example? I mean, when wrestlers shout, we normally hear them anyway.

True. They just needed to look at videos were people had tried to get in the ring previously, and try to recreate it with Matt.

Once anything happens backstage then you know it's all down with the script, no matter how real it might look or feel (isn't that right, Mr Beaver Clevage?)

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 02:58 PM
Not really...but if this was Bubba however....
Yeah, you're right. We can't hear people without a hot mic in their hands.

I must have been hallucinating like mad when I heard HEidenreich a couple weeks ago. Or Triple H. Or Angle. OR...

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 03:00 PM
I must have been hallucinating like mad when I heard HEidenreich a couple weeks ago. Or Triple H. Or Angle. OR...

I think that's the schizophrenia kicking in Mr Knight

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 03:02 PM
True. They just needed to look at videos were people had tried to get in the ring previously, and try to recreate it with Matt.

Once anything happens backstage then you know it's all down with the script, no matter how real it might look or feel (isn't that right, Mr Beaver Clevage?)
Imagine the orgasm everyone'd be having if he got in about the same way the kid who tipped Eddie's ladder did. Then have security haul him off like it was another day at the office. Now DAT...wuld be kuhl.

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 03:06 PM
Exactly. That would've been a mark out moment for sure!

It would've also put some real substance behind the work or shoot debate we've basically been having all day

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 03:06 PM
I think that's the schizophrenia kicking in Mr Knight
What's that, God? You want me to kill Kerwin Jr Jr?

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 03:08 PM
What's that, God? You want me to kill Kerwin Jr Jr?

God: "No, I said blow Kerwin, I mean, Chavo Jr Jr"

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 03:12 PM
Yeah, THAT would have people talking for WEEKS.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 03:12 PM
God: "No, I said blow Kerwin, I mean, Chavo Jr Jr"
Blow him away? Yes, my dark master.

Chavo Classic
07-12-2005, 03:19 PM
I've been foiled by schizophrenia again. I'm writing a letter to Mr Purple Dodo right now to express my disgust. WOOF WOOF!

Shadow
07-12-2005, 05:02 PM
Yeah, you're right. We can't hear people without a hot mic in their hands.

I must have been hallucinating like mad when I heard HEidenreich a couple weeks ago. Or Triple H. Or Angle. OR...

Ok ok. There are tons of people who you can hear without a mic. But Bubba is one of the more obvious ones that's all I'm saying.

UmbrellaCorporation
07-12-2005, 05:44 PM
This has probably been covered, but I just tried to go to TheMattHardy.com, and got a Page Cannot Be Found error.

However, I typed in MattHardy.com and it took me to WWE.com. Interesting.

:shifty:

Joe Kerr
07-12-2005, 05:49 PM
All that matters is Hardy is back....or never left....This is probably the best angle they have ever done and it worked.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 05:53 PM
This has probably been covered, but I just tried to go to TheMattHardy.com, and got a Page Cannot Be Found error.

However, I typed in MattHardy.com and it took me to WWE.com. Interesting.

:shifty:
Matt's site goes down given a lof of traffic.

Last I knew, the WWE still owned the www.matthardy.com domain. I doubt that changed in the short time since they fired him. And I doubt that they'd take the redirect off it.

UmbrellaCorporation
07-12-2005, 05:55 PM
Matt's site goes down given a lof of traffic.

Last I knew, the WWE still owned the www.matthardy.com domain. I doubt that changed in the short time since they fired him. And I doubt that they'd take the redirect off it.

Aye, good point. I never thought of that.


I feel ashamed now. I got fooled big time. It's almost as bad as being KKK'd. :p

Loose Cannon
07-12-2005, 07:50 PM
This angle rules so much. I should help out this "internet" angle they got going by trying to maintain to at least the TPWW readers of the news page that this thing is a total work.

I see some people who post on here still think it's a total shoot :roll:

Shouldn't be to hard to maintain this "shoot" angle to TPWW news readers

Angelina2K
07-12-2005, 08:09 PM
All Hail LC :shifty:

.44 Magdalene
07-12-2005, 08:13 PM
THE MATTRIX HAS YOU, DAMMIT.

There is no shoot.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 08:48 PM
Aye, good point. I never thought of that.


I feel ashamed now. I got fooled big time. It's almost as bad as being KKK'd. :p
You feel fooled? Imagine the number of MFers who probably gave the WWE hits because of that shit. ;)

Shadow
07-12-2005, 08:53 PM
The same number of MFers who have brought Matt's site down...again.

Kane Knight
07-12-2005, 08:57 PM
Exactly.

MF=Mad fuckers.

PorkSoda
07-12-2005, 09:25 PM
MF = My Fries

Just a random thought. If WWE really wanted to trick us, they would have left Kane and Snitsky in the ring on Monday and Matt come in and attack Edge. Obviously you can tell it was a work when Edge was the only one in the ring; too predictable. But still, it was an awesome moment. I marked in and out for it.

Corkscrewed
07-13-2005, 01:01 PM
DX is back. How Who do you think insisted Lesnar return?
DEGENERATION PEX!!!!!!!




(pecs)

M. Banana
07-13-2005, 01:05 PM
DEGENERATION SEX!!!!!!

(sex)

Corkscrewed
07-13-2005, 03:46 PM
(secs)

Blue Demon
07-13-2005, 09:31 PM
Wow. Because 2 or 3 people started flipping out over Matt rejoining the WWE, you make a generalisation of his fans. JEsus Christ man, no wonder you got so huffy over Christian comments. You probably think everyone's as big a bigoted asshole as you are.
don't forget...all generalizations are false.

M. Banana
07-13-2005, 10:04 PM
(porn)

Evolution
07-14-2005, 10:40 AM
I can't wait to go over to the WWE chat room and see how they are all taking the news.