NHL deal done

[MoRcHeEbA]

now stima has to watch gay hockey highlights on sportscentre.

[The Mackem]

Poor stima :'(

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

'bout bloody time too.

[The Gooch]

Draft to be held in Ottawa July 30th. My bro is coming down from the Suds so hopefully we will hit it.

[Bricktop]

:love:

[The Miz]

Fuck hockey. It's only popular in Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Russia, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Ukraine, Denmark, and Turkey :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Zen v.W.o.]

Finally! I'm about as giddy as a little schoolgirl right now.

I :heart: Hockey!

[The Gooch]

I just heard that fans may not be able to attend the draft in Ottawa. Nice way to treat us after the year or so of shit you've dealt us.

Not confirmed yet, but if true I'm extremely pissed.

[Splaya]

Came home, tired as shit from working my summer day job. Went to watch Tv and saw about this. Fuck yes :love:

[YOUR Hero]

Deal in principle, still not signed sealed and delivered.

[Loose Cannon]

Fuck hockey. It's only popular in Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Russia, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Ukraine, Denmark, and Turkey :lol: :lol: :lol:

lol

[Zen v.W.o.]

It's done. If the greedy bastards who oppose this deal try to renege and refute it, the damage done to the league will never be able to be repaired.
They have lost all power.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

YESSSSSSSSSSSS! SENS > U

[Joey Slugs]

it's about time. i miss not watching blackhawk home games on tv. :nono:

[RoXer]

Gretzky MIGHT coach the Coyotes

[Lotus]

Thank God. I missed hockey. Glad its back. :wave: Go Sharks, motherfuckers.

[MoRcHeEbA]

Gretzky MIGHT coach the Coyotes


Doubt he will make a good coach right away, he's never coached anything to do with hockey. Sure he was the greatest player of all time. doesn't make him a good coach.

also fuck the Coyotes... Jets for life

[BCWWF]

Remember when Gretzky had a miraculous deal that was going to bring back the cancelled season too?

[Lara Emily]

I'm happy, but I got to say the draft setup for this season is fucking bullshit

[asphyXy]

WHOOOOOOOOOOO

Jets for life

The Jets live on with Sega Genesis.

[KleptoKlown]

Phil Housley was the man in those EA games.

[AareDub]

Doubt he will make a good coach right away, he's never coached anything to do with hockey. Sure he was the greatest player of all time. doesn't make him a good coach.

also fuck the Coyotes... Jets for life

Yea, players with natural talent aren't really good at teacher others how to be good. They can't explain what makes them awesome, its just something they do. I'm not saying he doesn't know matchups, strategies, etc. It's just that playing skill doesn't = coaching skill.

PS: WOOOO HOCKEY!!!

PPS: Goddamn Redwings trying to hire that f'ng Duck as their coach. It just feels so wrong. Can't anybody hold a grudge these days!!

[Arashi Kage]

I'm just interested to see how significantly the rosters may change with all the potential free agents on the market.

[KleptoKlown]

Doubt he will make a good coach right away, he's never coached anything to do with hockey. Sure he was the greatest player of all time. doesn't make him a good coach.

also fuck the Coyotes... Jets for life

*2nd greatest player :mad:

[asphyXy]

Sergei Zubov #1

[YOUR Hero]

Tony Tanti - #1

[BCWWF]

I read an article about the Wild when they come back, they look pretty solid still. We have pretty much all of our major guys still signed, Gabby, Roloson, Park, Brunette, Dupuis, and I didn't even remember that we randomly have Rolston. The only guys I was concerned that are now FA's are Pierre Marc-Buchard and Willie Mitchell.

I am as excited as ever for hockey to come back.

[Adder]

The player signings that are fast approaching should be interesting. I think next year will be even better.

[KleptoKlown]

with the type of rolling cap they have, it really should be more interesting every year.

[Y2Ant]

I'm liking the draft setup, it gives the Ducks a good shot at getting Crosby :cool:

Mad pumped for the new season now, we should do a TPWW yahoo fantasy league again :o :o :o :o

[MoRcHeEbA]

I wouldn't really say the set up gives any team a good shot, even the teams with 3 balls in the drum could all miss out on him. COME ON BUFFALO

[BCWWF]

With the Crosby thing, I keep hearing that the Rangers have a really good chance at getting him. Were they real bad in 2004 or how come they have such a good chance? I want to see a good team in New York again, but for some reason I just see Crosby being a choke if he gets drafted there. I want him on a smaller market team, the Mighty Ducks would be cool for him.

[MoRcHeEbA]

Rangers, Buffalo, Columbus, Pittsburgh all have 3 balls in the lottery

Anaheim, Atlanta, Calgary, Carolina, Chicago, Edmonton, LA, Minnesota, Phoenix, all have 2 balls

Boston, Colorado, Dallas, Detroit, Florida, Montreal, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa, Philly, St. Louis, San Jose, Tampa Bay, Toronto, Vancouver, Washington all have 1 ball

The lottery formula is as follows - each team begins with three balls. For every playoff appearance in the last three years or No. 1 overall pick over the last four years, a team loses one ball. But each team will still be guaranteed to have one ball in the lottery. The first round will go with teams picking 1 through 30, with the 30th team picking 31st and the draft order 'snaking' back and forth in a seven round draft.

[MoRcHeEbA]

so out of 46 balls the Rangers have 3... I wouldn't really call that fantastic odds.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Bruins are getting the first pick

[MoRcHeEbA]

no one wants to play for the bruins lol.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Fuck the Bruins.

Habs are getting him, and if not now, then later. The way the system works now, we'll have him at his peak. Of course he's gonna wanna sign with his all time fave team. But fuck the Bruins.

[MoRcHeEbA]

Aslong as he doesn't play for Toronto I don't care where he plays :cool:

[Zen v.W.o.]

Yeah screw TO. I agree. Hell I'm actually fine with him playing for the Rangers. But the Leafs? Nope.

Are they televising the draft do you know?

[MoRcHeEbA]

yup, TSN july 30th and 12 eastern.

[The Gooch]

And The Gooch and other fans are not invited.

FUCKERS!!!!

Crosby is going to a big market team. Chicago would be a good place for him.

[Zen v.W.o.]

And The Gooch and other fans are not invited.

FUCKERS!!!!

Crosby is going to a big market team. Chicago would be a good place for him.


Not until they get better management and decide to actually air their home games. I think Chi town is the only must avoid place for Sidney.

[Y2Ant]

Thats gay how the Rangers have 3 balls, I have a feeling he is gonna end up there.

[MoRcHeEbA]

eh, you can't say they don't deserve 3 balls. They have sucked for the last three years.

[BCWWF]

The Bruins were sweet when Samsonov and Thornton were good.

Anyway, it might have been posted in this thread even a link to some article that was talking up the Rangers getting Crosby.

[Y2Ant]

I didn't say the Rangers don't deserve the 3 balls but its still gay, its the Rangers FFS :mad:

[Zen v.W.o.]

If there is gonna be a tpww fantasy pool this year I'm in. I wanna kick some ass.

[YOUR Hero]

Going to sneak a couple extra lottery balls into the drum. Vancouver baby.

[Zen v.W.o.]

WE should all list down who we think Sidney wil be drafted by. Whoever wins and gets it right gets to gloat.

I say LA Kings.

[RoXer]

Coyotes :shifty:

[BCWWF]

Wild :rant:

[The Gooch]

Sticking to my guns and going with Chicago.

[The Gooch]

Not until they get better management and decide to actually air their home games. I think Chi town is the only must avoid place for Sidney.

I was thinking more from a Marketing aspect of the league. I totally agree with you that the management in Chicago has been horrible. There does not seem to be a commitment to put a good team on the ice. Hopefully that will change if this new collective bargaining is ratified.

[Y2Ant]

Going to sneak a couple extra lottery balls into the drum. Vancouver baby.
cheat 2 win :cool:

[MoRcHeEbA]

im going with Buffalo, the lottery will be on TV on friday at 4eastern on TSN for the folks in Canada.

[Gertner]

Who cares! It's my Leafs year!




btw Chi town is gonna win it.

[Y2Ant]

I'm predicting that the Rangers get Crosby :(

[The Gooch]

I'm predicting that the Rangers get Crosby :(

C'mon this isn't the WWE draft.

That would be so fixed.

Speaking of the Rangers anyone know if Messier officially retired or not? I haven't heard shit about it.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Wild :rant:

[Zen v.W.o.]

I was thinking more from a Marketing aspect of the league. I totally agree with you that the management in Chicago has been horrible. There does not seem to be a commitment to put a good team on the ice. Hopefully that will change if this new collective bargaining is ratified.


I know. I just think that if Crosby does get drafted there, it would be nice if the fans in Chicago could actually get to watch him and their team on tv for home games.
I think it's a shame what management has done to an original 6 team, where the fans are loyal enough. Chicago is a top notch sports city imo, and are for Hockey as well.

[MoRcHeEbA]

Who cares! It's my Leafs year!




btw Chi town is gonna win it.

is the victory parade route already decided like all years. :p

[MoRcHeEbA]

Speaking of the Rangers anyone know if Messier officially retired or not? I haven't heard shit about it.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=130816

[The Gooch]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=130816

Thanks Cheeba. I normally have TSN on my website rotation.

Anyone catch "Off the Record" yesterday with Larry Robinson, Jeremy Roenick, Mike Peca, Ric Natress, and some dude from the Sabres? That was one of the best OTR shows ever. I may have even become a Roenick fan. Could Roenick be the replacement for Don Cherry once he retires from HNIC? Him or Brett Hull would be pretty sweet as they are both very entertaining.

[Gertner]

is the victory parade route already decided like all years. :p

I'm already drawing up my signs.




Leafs 5 Canucks 2

Leafs 2 Canucks 1

[MoRcHeEbA]

1967 baby

[Y2Ant]

I'm already drawing up my signs.




Leafs 5 Canucks 2

Leafs 2 Canucks 1
lol was gonna say how much you sounded like Gertner there, never realised you actually are Gertner :o

[MoRcHeEbA]

GOOD OBSERVATION BRIT BOY

[MoRcHeEbA]

hey Gertner who on the leafs right now do you want to be let go since they're gonna have to atleast cut 1 or 2 guys?

[YOUR Hero]

OTR was good yesterday.

[YOUR Hero]

PS, 13% of the players rejected this deal :wtf:

[MoRcHeEbA]

probably Jeremy Roenick

[Gertner]

hey Gertner who on the leafs right now do you want to be let go since they're gonna have to atleast cut 1 or 2 guys?
Nolan and Antropov and Berg


and btw when was the last time the canucks won the cup?!?!?!!?

[MoRcHeEbA]

1912

[MoRcHeEbA]

this isn't about the shitty canucks though :D

[MoRcHeEbA]

also Antroprov and Berg don't even have contracts. They're just restricted FA's

[Zen v.W.o.]

Vancouvers cup win doesnt count. Otherwise Montreal has a few more to add as well.

[Y2Ant]

GOOD OBSERVATION BRIT BOY
punkass cop girl :foc:

[MoRcHeEbA]

punkass ducks fan

[Gertner]

also Antroprov and Berg don't even have contracts. They're just restricted FA's

I'm just saying they should dump them both.

But yeah, Nolan and Mogilny actually.

[Zelda]

The bad news is that we will probably get stuck with Theo.

[asphyXy]

NYR

[Zen v.W.o.]

The bad news is that we will probably get stuck with Theo.


Why is that bad?

[YOUR Hero]

top 5 goalie

[Lara Emily]

Crosby goes to the Devils where he is then forced to play the trap and which results in him eventually becomes a low scoring defensemen. ;)

He'll probably end up on a top team like Colorado or Detroit which will do two things: 1) It'll expose this draft system as the total farce that it is and 2) piss off almost every hockey fan left. (Fan of the team that lends him excluded naturally)

[Adder]

Lara, why do you call this draft system a farce?

[Lara Emily]

Lara, why do you call this draft system a farce?
The fact that teams like COlorado, Detroit, Toronto, New Jersey all have a have a chance of drafting anywhere near the first overall is ridiculous.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yea this system of getting the 1st pick is like a terrible verison of the NBA draft lottery. Bad teams only get 3 balls while every other team gets 1 haha. Like a cracked out version or some shit

[The Gooch]

Agreed, but disagree. I can see teams that have been historically good losing a lot of players under this new salary cap system. Teams like Toronto, Detroit and Colorado have huge payrolls which they'll need to trim, so they may not be as competitive this upcoming season.

[MoRcHeEbA]

it's pretty much that most teams are probably gonna keep THREE top tier players if their lucky (minus the leafs cause for some gay reason people wanna play there) so pretty much every team is starting over from scratch so I don't mind if a good team gets Crosby.

[MoRcHeEbA]

top 5 goalie


Top 10 ;)

[Kapoutman]

Getting stuck with Theo is a bad thing because he is an overrated, overpaid piece of crap. He always gets out of his goal to catch the puck, and half the time, he misses the pass or gives it to the opposing team. He is always on his knees before the shot even arrives. He chokes under pressure. He is kept on the team because he is married to the sister of one of the biggest star in Quebec, so people love him, and he makes talk-show and even tries to sing. Ugh.

Theodore has had one good performance in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and ever since, people say he could be the savior of the team which is bullshit. He choked ever since, and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

[The Gooch]

.....and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

I can't argue with that statement.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Getting stuck with Theo is a bad thing because he is an overrated, overpaid piece of crap. He always gets out of his goal to catch the puck, and half the time, he misses the pass or gives it to the opposing team. He is always on his knees before the shot even arrives. He chokes under pressure. He is kept on the team because he is married to the sister of one of the biggest star in Quebec, so people love him, and he makes talk-show and even tries to sing. Ugh.

Theodore has had one good performance in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and ever since, people say he could be the savior of the team which is bullshit. He choked ever since, and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

Holy moly you are way off. The fact is, the past 2 playoffs he hasn't choked under pressure at all. Just look at the series with the B's. Without him, we'd be toast. We were down 3 games to one. He helped us get to game 7, then he didnt allow one single goal in a high pressure game 7. Theo is easily one of the best goalies in this league. The fact he managed to play well with all the family crap he had going on shows you he is a big game player, and one who does not crack under pressure. And until Garon ever comes close to winning a vezina and an mvp award, then maybe you can mention him as being in Theo's level.
If Theo could be the Habs goalie for the next decade I wouldnt be upset about that.
And I dont even know who Theo's sister is actually.

[Zen v.W.o.]

haha, I'm actually nervous right now. Found it funny how the bolts won the cup and picked last, then the other florida team got the next one, and the flames and oil are right next to each other. Thank god the devils wont get him.

[Zelda]

Getting stuck with Theo is a bad thing because he is an overrated, overpaid piece of crap. He always gets out of his goal to catch the puck, and half the time, he misses the pass or gives it to the opposing team. He is always on his knees before the shot even arrives. He chokes under pressure. He is kept on the team because he is married to the sister of one of the biggest star in Quebec, so people love him, and he makes talk-show and even tries to sing. Ugh.

Theodore has had one good performance in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and ever since, people say he could be the savior of the team which is bullshit. He choked ever since, and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.


We are made to each other.



Garon > Theo

[Kapoutman]

Holy moly you are way off. The fact is, the past 2 playoffs he hasn't choked under pressure at all. Just look at the series with the B's. Without him, we'd be toast. We were down 3 games to one. He helped us get to game 7, then he didnt allow one single goal in a high pressure game 7. Theo is easily one of the best goalies in this league. The fact he managed to play well with all the family crap he had going on shows you he is a big game player, and one who does not crack under pressure. And until Garon ever comes close to winning a vezina and an mvp award, then maybe you can mention him as being in Theo's level.
If Theo could be the Habs goalie for the next decade I wouldnt be upset about that.
And I dont even know who Theo's sister is actually.

Theodore was choking against Boston, and he did choke against Tampa. He choked for the last two playoffs. It was Koivu, Kovalev, Ryder and Ribeiro that saved us. Theodore hasn't done a good thing since winning his Vezina.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Theodore was choking against Boston, and he did choke against Tampa. He choked for the last two playoffs. It was Koivu, Kovalev, Ryder and Ribeiro that saved us. Theodore hasn't done a good thing since winning his Vezina.


Ribeiro sucked in the playoffs, and his actions, with the fake diving and shit almost cost us. I'd get rid of that little pansy.
Theodore did not choke against the B's, cuz if he did, we would have not made the second round, plain as. As for choking against TB, they were better than us, that's just a fact. You dont choke against the top ranked team in the conference. Come on man, you cant show how biased you are being this badly.

[Adder]

Lots of team choked against Tampa then I guess. CALGARY CHOKED!!

Litle bit out of like Kapoutman

[Kapoutman]

All right. I'll admit I exxagerated on the "choking against Tampa" stuff, but he did choke against Boston. Have you watched TV or read the papers during the playoffs? Everybody was trying to find reasons why he sucked. "Maybe it's his family life", "Maybe it's the trade rumours" and so on. The bottom line is he did suck. I don't like his style, and we could find about 15 better goalies in the NHL at this moment.

[Zen v.W.o.]

He didn't suck. In the first couple of games people were making mention that he wasn't as sharp as he was 2 years before against the B's, and that is true. But then he started picking it up, and they ripped through the B's. The B's still took lots of shots on goal, yet they couldnt put the puck in the net.
I dare you to name 15 better goalies. If he sucked, we wouldnt have made it to game 7.
Watch, he'll be great again this season, and then he'll still be over-rated?

[MoRcHeEbA]

I can name 9 :shifty:

[Zen v.W.o.]

I can name 2 immediately better than him, and about 5 on his level.

[KleptoKlown]

The new deal is already starting to take effect...

Flyers bought out John Leclair and Tony Amonte today, making them both free agents.

I BET THE LEAFS WILL SIGN BOTH!!!!111

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah, I was gonna mention the LeClair/Amonte thing. This is going to be a busy time.

[YOUR Hero]

Crosby, Malkin, Andre-Fleury

Pretty solid youngsters for Pittsburg to groom.

[YOUR Hero]

et tu brute?


Goodenow wanted to stay on but players' committee opted to go with Saskin


TORONTO (CP) - Bob Goodenow resigned as executive director of the NHL Players' Association nearly three years before he'd planned.


It wasn't his idea. He stepped aside Thursday, diplomatically and with a lot of class, at the suggestion of the executive committee headed by president Trevor Linden. Ted Saskin, the licensing whiz who was Goodenow's right-hand man, takes over. The committee felt that, with the new six-year collective bargaining agreement coming into play after the season-long lockout, it would be better to make the change now.

"I agreed with that," Goodenow explained. "I said, 'That's fine with me."'

Goodenow had previously told the committee he wouldn't be continuing past the expiration of his current contract, which had nearly three years to go at a reported $2.5 million US a year. Just a week ago, after the membership ratified the new collective bargaining agreement, he said he loved the work and wanted to stay in the job he started in 1990.

"After talking to the players, I said, 'You know, it makes a lot of sense to make the change now rather than wait eight months or something like that,"' he said. "We were uniquely positioned to have someone like Ted to step in.

"He's been working at the players' association for 15 years or so, he knows the operation, he knows the collective bargaining agreement well, so it's a perfect match and perfect timing rather than trying to do something in midstream.

"It makes perfectly good sense. I don't have any problem with the way things have gone at all."

There was always going to be a transition, he said. The process was merely accelerated.

"There's the old saying, that when it feels good and it looks good, go ahead and do it, and that's what we've done," he said.

The hard-nosed Michigan lawyer lined the players' pockets. They earned an average of $270,000 when he took the reins of a feeble organization that had only two full-time employees during the messy departure of Alan Eagleson. Players were averaging nearly $1.8 million before the lockout, when the gravy train crashed. Through it all, the PA became a well-oiled corporation - thanks in large part to the genius of Saskin.

Salary disclosure was as a tenet of his administration but nobody would disclose a dollar figure on the Goodenow settlement. Numbers are still being juggled, the Montreal-born Saskin said.

"What we've worked out is an accommodation that's satisfactory to everyone," said Goodenow.

The new labour deal isn't what Goodenow envisioned. He'd sworn to oppose a salary cap for as long as it took. He perhaps misjudged the owners' resolve. But the players wanted to get back onto the ice and since the agreement was reached - even though his body language last week seemed to indicate the new deal was personally distasteful to him - Goodenow has toed the party line.

"The agreement can work and it will work with everybody co-operating," he said Thursday.

It was Saskin who was at the PA forefront in finalizing the new agreement. Goodenow appeared close to tears when he explained how a personal matter had taken him away from the process at one point.

"My mother passed away last week and I had some days where I was preoccupied," he said.

Goodenow said he has no immediate plans.

"I'm going to take a few months off and think about what I might want to do in the future," he said. "I really haven't given it any thought."

Linden spoke warmly of Goodenow in an NHLPA statement.

"Every NHL player has benefited enormously from Bob's leadership and dedication," said Linden. "He has been a tireless advocate for the players and he dramatically improved the players' situation in every respect.

"Bob built the NHLPA into a first-class organization and we are all very grateful to him."

He also praised Saskin.

"Ted has worked closely with Bob every step of the way and has done an excellent job for the players in our recently concluded CBA negotiations. We have every confidence that he will be able to lead our association well in the years to come."

Committee member Vincent Damphousse called Saskin "a superstar, something that I really discovered this year during the negotiations."

"He's perfect for the job," said Damphousse.

The decision for Goodenow to go was mutual, he added.

"I don't want to take anything from Bob," he said. "He's helped me earn a lot more than I ever expected, but we had to take a decision going forward and Bob had to make a decision and I think it was mutual that it was time to go our separate ways and bring a guy in that was really involved in this deal."

Both of the lead negotiators in the labour deal have now been promoted: Saskin, and Bill Daly, who has been named deputy NHL commissioner.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman issued a statement following Goodenow's surprise departure: "I have always respected Bob's tenacity, passion and professionalism, and I wish him well in his future endeavours. We congratulate Ted and look forward to working with him."

Goodenow thanked the players and others employed in the sport as he made his exit. He said the staff at NHLPA headquarters is so capable that it would win the Stanley Cup if it were awarded to office personnel.

A new day dawns.

"We've already mended the fences," New York Rangers GM Glen Sather said of the future NHL-NHLPA relationship. "The players and the NHL have made a deal that we're all happy with and we're all going to live with.

"It's a partnership and we're going to work together to make the game grow and make it more appealing to the fans and to the players and the owners. It is a genuine partnership."

[KleptoKlown]

He's the main reason we lost the whole year. Saskin is a lot more in tune with the finacial problems the nhl has I think.

[YOUR Hero]

He represented the player's desires. He did what they asked him to do. The problem of course is that he is/was a player agent and I believe there's an underlying conflict there that possibly clouded his judgement. IN the end however, while Saskin will be the better man (presumably) for this job, the players hung Goodenow out to dry. LOL BTW

[KleptoKlown]

Goodenow represented the Jagrs and Sakics of the NHL. He wasnt about the lesser players, who or course far outnumber the guys making 8+ million a year. No one knows the exact offer that was made by the owner to try and save the season at the beggining of the year, but im pretty sure it was a lot better than what the players got. If Goodenow would have put it to a player vote, im sure it would have been accepted. He held out for something that was unrealistic, and it cost him his job.

[Zen v.W.o.]

I would love to see Bryan McCabe deliver on his promise, that if the NHL works under a cap, he'd never agree to it and quit. "I will not play under a cap system." Well idiot, retire now. :n:

[MoRcHeEbA]

lol, Thornton pretty much has told Boston to go fuck themselves... turned down a huge 5 year deal and says this will forsure be his last year there since they can go to arbitration with him.

[KleptoKlown]

Yash:

"fuck thorton"

[Y2Ant]

Ducks re-sign Ozolinsh :cool:

lol though, we traded the pick Tampa gave us for Prospal to Philly for Todd Fedoruk, woooo awesome trade, enforcers will win us the stanley cup

[Zen v.W.o.]

Well you had a pussy team. You need some muscle on that roster. Fuck Garrett Burnett.

[Gertner]

Leafs get Jeff O'neill!!! :):):)

[MoRcHeEbA]

SHINE UP THE CUP FOR THE LEAFS... trading away a first rounder next year for O'Neil :lol:

[MoRcHeEbA]

also wtf is up with teams drafting goalies anymore... there is basically NO point... goalies don't usually hit their prime till they like 26-30 and they are allowed to leave at 25.. lots of teams gonna get jewed out.

[KleptoKlown]

if you happen to get someone like luongo, then you're laughing.

but yeah, not often do you find a goalie that tears things up when he still has "teen" in his age.

[KleptoKlown]

O'Niel for the Maple Laughs is actually going to work pretty good. He'll have a better supporting cast than he did in Carolina. ALways thought he was underrated. But the leafs still have enough shit to hold them back from doing anything significant :)

[KleptoKlown]

also, where did you get a 1st rounder from cheeba? Im reading it as a 4th rounder.

[MoRcHeEbA]

MY B tsn said it's a first round conditional so I guess it can be anywhere between a first and fourth round pick.

[MoRcHeEbA]

and lol @ montreal draft a goalie 5th overall

[Zen v.W.o.]

It wasn't the best pick, but it wasnt shit either. Gainey knows what he is doing. Look what he did for the Stars. Think about it, we got the best goalie this year in the draft..he'll be ready in like 3 years anyways, maybe we wont have theo then. No matter what though, we'll always be stacked in net. That is safe now, and we wont have to focus on that next year or anything.

Plus we just stole Latendresse in the freaking second round! That guy is huge, fucking strong, has a great shot, and crashes the net. Exactly what we needed. Plus no doubt about it, we're gonna sign free agents for imediate help this year. Draft picks you cant rely on for that anyways.

[KleptoKlown]

In 3 years Garon should be the number 1 goalie. I honestly dont see this kid ever becoming a starter for the habs. If he develops nicely, he'll make great trade bait, but the habs are pretty secure with goalies now.

[MoRcHeEbA]

yeah that's what I was saying that they didn't really need him and he wassn't even the best player available.

[MoRcHeEbA]

Loose Cannon is a giant homo

[Zen v.W.o.]

We dont have Garon anymore, he is starting for LA.

[KleptoKlown]

I had no idea Garon got traded :o

when did this happen, and who did the habs get?

[KleptoKlown]

guess that also means LA is done with the Chokemanic test.

[KleptoKlown]

Ottawa Senators traded Radek Bonk to the Los Angeles Kings for a 3rd round selection (Shawn Weller) in 2004 then the Kings traded Bonk to the Montreal Canadiens with Cristobal Huet for Mathieu Garon and a 3rd round selection (Paul Baier) in 2004.

Bonk isnt half bad. I guess if the Habs thought they could keep Theo, this was a smart move.

[Zen v.W.o.]

I've come to think it was a great move. It was a very good draft. The top goalie, plus two huge steals. This was a special year, in terms of all the free agents available this year. So why not draft the top goalie? He'll have time to develop moreso in the minors, then in 3 years time he'd be better suited to playing in the league. The Habs have just assured themselves solid goaltending for the next 5 years in any case. Probably more.
Also, drafting players by needs is alright, in any other year mind you, but Gainey is a smart man, he knows draft picks rarely make impacts right away anyways! There are a ton of free agents out there who can make immediate impacts. He not only fortified the future, but he can stil go out and sign guys for immediate help. Come to think of it, Bob is always one step ahead. He just took advantage of perhaps the only off season where you can pretty much expect to sign someone of worth for your team, while drafting for the future. Besides, he did draft by need afterwards anyways, picking up Latendresse.

Fuckin A, I'm pretty happy overall.

[Y2Ant]

Adam Foote to Columbus lol

Derian Hatcher to Philly :o