Muhammad Hassan's promo from the Smackdown tapings up on WWE.com

[KingofOldSchool]

This segment will NOT be shown on TV, but they have posted the interview on WWE.com just click on Muhammad's face.

I just watched and IMO, probably the best promo I've heard in quite a while.

[M. Banana]

If possible, could you sum it up?

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, that was one of the best I've heard in a while. lol @ blaming Hurricane David on the Arabs.

[KingofOldSchool]

If this was done in Canada, he'd probably say that they blame the Arabs for the NHL Lockout.

Or even the Montreal Screwjob.

"In fact it was probably the Arabs who screwed Bret Hart and not Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels!"

[Disturbed316]

lol that would have been good.

[LK]

If possible, could you sum it up?
Says he has been robbed of his rights to work, arabs are blamed for anything that goes wrong and he mentions an article in the New York post which talks about the guys who took Daivari, saying "how does he know they were even arabs?"

[Corkscrewed]

Oly crap, that was awesome!

He talks about how he and Daivari were labeled as terrorists by a guy who's never met them. He pointed out how the NY Post writer wrote "Arabs in ski masks" did it... even tho if they wore ski masks, how could anyone know they were Arabs? He talks about how he's an Arab AMERICAN and yet he's persecuted simply because of his race.

Everyone's ancestors are immigrants and came to America and fought for people's freedoms. But Hassan notes that everytime something happens, Arabs are blamed. Plane crash? Arabs. A bomb? Arabs. Blackout two summers ago? Arabs. Hurricane Dennis? Arabs.

Crowd chants USA, and Hassan says that they can say what they want, but his name is Muhammad Hassan. He is an Arab American. But today, he is ashamed to be an American. It cuts off there.




But that was an awesome promo and basically killed any fears I had that they'd turn his character into a hypocrite. He brings up a lot of great points, and the crowd boos him like idiots. :lol: There was even a sign that said "Get the hell out of America Hassan."

Funny stuff, but definitely watch this promo. Hell, if anything, it's a perfect example of how to conduct a promo.

:y: :y: :y: :y: :y:

[Corkscrewed]

doh.. LK beat me to it... sorta. :p

[LK]

Along with a recent Eddie promo, it is the best I have seen in a while.

[KingofOldSchool]

Fan 1: Wow. Hassan is bringing up a lot of good points.
Fan 2: Let's chant U.S.A. to show our undying love for our country, because he is Arab and he hates America!
Fan 1: Okay.

*starts a U.S.A. chant*

[LK]

If you watch another version Daivari gets on the mic and while he is talking Hassan rips up the article and spits on it.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/mediahassan

[M. Banana]

Says he has been robbed of his rights to work, arabs are blamed for anything that goes wrong and he mentions an article in the New York post which talks about the guys who took Daivari, saying "how does he know they were even arabs?"

I was the first to call it.

[Corkscrewed]

Kinda funny that his voice cracked when he said "IN SKI--in ski masks!!!" :lol:

[Corkscrewed]

If you watch another version Daivari gets on the mic and while he is talking Hassan rips up the article and spits on it.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/mediahassan
Oh man, Daivari was getting MAD heat just for speaking in another language. :lol:

Hey Danny, what'd he say? :D

[Savio]

Yeah he always cracks. He's probably worried that some idiot in the crowd would try and shoot him.

[Kane Knight]

The last true patriot. :D

As the morons shout USA.

[Kane Knight]

I do like the "Arabs in ski masks" bit. :D

HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT THEY WERE ARABS?

[Savio]

If this was done in Canada, he'd probably say that they blame the Arabs for the NHL Lockout.

Or even the Montreal Screwjob.

"In fact it was probably the Arabs who screwed Bret Hart and not Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels!"Haha Tiger Ali Sing or what ever his name is, was behind it.

[Savio]

I do like the "Arabs in ski masks" bit. :D

HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT THEY WERE ARABS?Because they were terrorists.

[Kane Knight]

I blame the jews.

[Kane Knight]

Americans don't care about First Amendment rights. As far as wrestling fans are concerned, America was founded by white people to escape the niggers and spics.

[Savio]

Minorities can only win championships uncleanly AKA Eddie guerro. I don't see why Rey is getting a push though I mean he's wearing a mask so he must be a terrorist.

[Kane Knight]

Minorities can only win championships uncleanly AKA Eddie guerro. I don't see why Rey is getting a push though I mean he's wearing a mask so he must be a terrorist.
Naw. TErrorists don't get popped. Rey gets popped. Ergo...

[Savio]

Are you sure? Who's that flying Through the sky?" and every one know you can some how fold reys mask and make the twin towers.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Plus Eddy's secret could reveal Rey is a terrorist :O

[PureHatred]

So, do I get fantasy points for this, or not?

[M. Banana]

prolly

[Kane Knight]

Are you sure? Who's that flying Through the sky?" and every one know you can some how fold reys mask and make the twin towers.
Isn't it jumping out the sky? Wouldn't that make him one of the Americans leaping off the towers instead?

[Savio]

You know me I always get entrances wrong......STAY IN THE BACK!

[Corkscrewed]

Haha... throw in the fact that the Mexicools, who are hispanic like Rey, are advocating a revolution to overthrow the whites (i.e. real Americans)--an act that's just like Lenin calling the Communists to rebel (and everyone knows that those damn Reds are terrorists), and it's indisputable that Rey's secret is that he's really Osama Bin Laden!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Savio]

Very good point made though, If Undertaker did and Druids came out and did the same thing the fans would be like "Awww how cute he prayed to satan to get people to strangle the terrorist"

[Kane Knight]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/13/iraq.main/index.html

I DEMAND THAT THEY YANK SMACKDOWN TOMRROW NIGHT.

[Kane Knight]

Very good point made though, If Undertaker did and Druids came out and did the same thing the fans would be like "Awww how cute he prayed to satan to get people to strangle the terrorist"
Well yeah, because the Satanists aren't behind 9-11, the london bombing, and the holocaust.

[PureHatred]

Might as well go all out and have Taker wear an Uncle Sam costume, ride a harley, call him the "All-American Bad-Ass" have him battle Hassan's stable The Axis of Evil and then beat him in a Battle for Democracy match with his new finisher "The ShocK & Awe."

[Schoenauer]

Nah, call it "The Stars and Stripes" so it's more American. It looks like my mother was right about what UPN stood for... Unified Poopyheads Network.

[FourFifty]

I <3 Hassan!

[Batsu]

This was AWESOME.

And UPN is not going to air this?!!

BULLSHIT!

[KingofOldSchool]

Very good point made though, If Undertaker did and Druids came out and did the same thing the fans would be like "Awww how cute he prayed to satan to get people to strangle the terrorist"

Druids vs. The Terrorists in a Elimination match at the Survivor Series.

[Kane Knight]

This was AWESOME.

And UPN is not going to air this?!!

BULLSHIT!
Perhaps the best promo he's cut. And they won't air it. God damn, those PC pussies are annoying.

[Jaton]

Yeah, one of the best promos ever.

I love how the crowd chants USA toward Hassan. Nevermind the fact that he publicly says "I AM AN AMERICAN!"

[Jaton]

Perhaps the best promo he's cut. And they won't air it. God damn, those PC pussies are annoying.



Yeah, and I believe what made it so good is that he was probably speaking his mind rather than lines fed to him.

[Danny Electric]

Awesome stuff.

Ok Daviari says that last week you all saw on the tv that i was carried to the back by some people and you thought that they were Arabs, you don't know they you were but you still say they were arabs, he(Hassan) is an Arab and I am an Arab. Just once listen to me, listen to Hassan, we are americans and we two know what they wrote here (points to the article on floor)

Hope that helps you out.

[Danny Electric]

Can I just say that I get goosebumps when I hear Hassan's music.
Not in the ring but he is definitely my number one guy.

[TerranRich]

How can Hassan be a heel now? Amazingly enough, he was still getting booed for bringing up good points. He is a heel because the fans, quite simply, are morons. All of those idiots sitting in the crowd were morons. They obviously didn't hear Hassan say he was an Arab-AMERICAN, and therefore chanted "U.S.A.". One week, we cry fowl that Hassan's character is turning hypocrit. Now, less than a week alter, Hassan turns the hypocrisy onto the crowd, who are made out to be even bigger hyprocrits than we could believe possible.

Best promo in a long time, IMO.

[Batsu]

Perhaps the best promo he's cut. And they won't air it. God damn, those PC pussies are annoying.

Absolutely. This is a perfect promo for Hassan's character; consistent with his original angle "I'm Arab AMERICAN -- stop judging me", despite being a generic cheating heel otherwise, he gets the cheap heat. Now it has some real world heat to go with it...

[TerranRich]

Hassan now gets the hyprocritical idiotic anti-anti-American heat.

[Team Sheep]

Do you think they'll show it on Velocity? Because, if I'm correct it was UPN who contacted WWE saying they didn't want Hassan on the show this week, but Velocity's on Spike.

[TerranRich]

No, because they have the Smackdown logo plastered all over the place in that segment. of course, they could easily say "footage taped for Smackdown but never allowed on the air...until now..."

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, one of the best promos ever.

I love how the crowd chants USA toward Hassan. Nevermind the fact that he publicly says "I AM AN AMERICAN!"
The crowd is a bunch of idiots. :D

[Jaton]

No shit.

[LK]

I would love to ask the normal WWE fan why they boo whenever Daivari gets on the mic. They have no idea what he is saying, yet they still boo. Why?

[Jaton]

Now that I've rewatched the promo again, it leaves me wondering.

What if that promo was meant to be a face turn, but the fans just wouldn't accept it?

[Jaton]

Is that viable?

[Danny Electric]

To a certain extent, Hassan's future has always depened on crowd reaction.

By thw way I translated what Daviari said up there.

[Jonster]

Great promo.

Did anyone read what was on the parents site about the whole thing?

[Dave Youell]

That was awesome, let the shoots continue!

[Kane Knight]

How can Hassan be a heel now? Amazingly enough, he was still getting booed for bringing up good points. He is a heel because the fans, quite simply, are morons. All of those idiots sitting in the crowd were morons. They obviously didn't hear Hassan say he was an Arab-AMERICAN, and therefore chanted "U.S.A.". One week, we cry fowl that Hassan's character is turning hypocrit. Now, less than a week alter, Hassan turns the hypocrisy onto the crowd, who are made out to be even bigger hyprocrits than we could believe possible.

Best promo in a long time, IMO.
Speaking the truth doesn't make you popular. They want to hear that America is perfect. God bless America. And the minute their prejudices were shown up...BOOOO USA!@ USA!

[Kane Knight]

No, because they have the Smackdown logo plastered all over the place in that segment. of course, they could easily say "footage taped for Smackdown but never allowed on the air...until now..."
Volcity doesn't do new programming anymore, so the argument that it doens't say velocity is moot.

[Kane Knight]

I would love to ask the normal WWE fan why they boo whenever Daivari gets on the mic. They have no idea what he is saying, yet they still boo. Why?
He's a foreigner and flaunting ways strange to us.

[Kane Knight]

To a certain extent, Hassan's future has always depened on crowd reaction.

By thw way I translated what Daviari said up there.
How many of those fans chanting USA do you think give a shit what he said, so much as the fact that he said it in "AYRAB?"

[Kane Knight]

Great promo.

Did anyone read what was on the parents site about the whole thing?
Parents site?

[Jonster]

http://corporate.wwe.com/parents/overview.jsp

[Kane Knight]

http://corporate.wwe.com/parents/overview.jsp
Like Lammy needed another way to look like an ass...

[Kane Knight]

I can't wait for Venis' heel turn now.

"You know, the big Valboski and Allah have a lot in common..."

[Jonster]

:lol:

[Goulet]

I don't want to offend any Americans posting here, but that promo made me very proud to be Canadian and not to be associated with the retards in that crowd

[Kane Knight]

I don't want to offend any Americans posting here, but that promo made me very proud to be Canadian and not to be associated with the retards in that crowd
Don't worry.

Considering Canada's still got their knickers in a twist over BRet Hart, I don't think America's gonna be offended by you calling THEIR audience fanboys.

[TerranRich]

Because these henchmen wore masks and camouflage pants, and because Hassan is of Arab descent, some viewers may have leapt to the conclusion that these henchmen are terrorists. They are not, as our viewers will learn in future episodes.

Anyone who has followed the story of Mohammed Hassan knows that he is an American, born in Detroit, of Arab descent. He believes that since 9/11, he is being treated differently by his fellow Americans because of his Arab background. This has driven him to embrace his Arab roots, further estranging him from his fellow Americans. Many of the points Hassan raises have relevance to the prejudice of our society today. However, the way he goes about expressing these arguments is what turns people against him.

There ya go. Also: "Mohammed"? I thought it was "Muhammad". Pssh. Eh, whatever. Rakishi, Rikishi, tomato, tomato. :p

[Jonster]

There ya go.
That's the bit I mean.

[Bixente]

Maybe it's crazy, but everything he said...I'm not even American (I'm an Aussie), but I got really emotional with what he said.

Hassan is definitely my favourite wrestler now.

Another thing that promo proved, more than anything: the fans are _______ :n:

[Kane Knight]

(Fanboys, what the fuck am I smoking?)

[Kane Knight]

There ya go. Also: "Mohammed"? I thought it was "Muhammad". Pssh. Eh, whatever. Rakishi, Rikishi, tomato, tomato. :p
It was Mohammed before, then Muhammed, then Sean Morley.

[TerranRich]

Stupid ____ing _____! God____! You're _____in' right!

In all seriousness, I'm cheering for Hassan now too. Not that I cheer or boo wrestlers like marks do, but I'm rootin' for him now. :)

[Lotus]

I would love to ask the normal WWE fan why they boo whenever Daivari gets on the mic. They have no idea what he is saying, yet they still boo. Why?
Because that's what Vince wants.

Also, if they wanted ratings, WWE would air this promo. But I guess they're not interested in that and will just fill that time up with some Diva bullshit.

[Dave Youell]

I've seen 2 of the best worked shoot within 3 days of each other

Great! just great

[Goulet]

Don't worry.

Considering Canada's still got their knickers in a twist over BRet Hart, I don't think America's gonna be offended by you calling THEIR audience fanboys.
Tous Chez,

Although personally I don't care about Bret Hart or the Survivor Series 97 incident (I honestly never did)... but as far as the average Canadian fan goes you hit it on the head... However when Hassan is cutting a promo like that berating the media and the RETARDS in that crowd just mindlessly chant USA...USA...USA even though Hassan CLEARLY SAYS he's an American, it would make me ashamed to be in that audience had I been.

[Kane Knight]

I would be more than ashamed. I'd be lynched. I'd be the guy up front cheering him.

[TerranRich]

Who was it that brought up the fact that the crowd chanted "USA!" one time during a match and nether of the 4 competitors were American?

[Bixente]

Is there any way to d/load this to my desktop? Whenever I want to watch it again, it has to rebuffer...

[Danny Electric]

I would love to be in that arena cheering for him, love to hear some remarks to me. Then I'll teel them I'm a British-Iranian, see what they say then.

[LK]

They would call you an evil terrorist who hates freedom

[LK]

Who was it that brought up the fact that the crowd chanted "USA!" one time during a match and nether of the 4 competitors were American?
I believe this was a tag match between Edge/Benoit and La Resistance and the only American in the ring was Rob Conway.

[M. Banana]

Wonder what all the marks are going to think about this.

Showing clips from Thursday's SmackDown... on Wednesday!!! ZOMG

[Savio]

Who was it that brought up the fact that the crowd chanted "USA!" one time during a match and nether of the 4 competitors were American?I remember the crowd was chanting "USA" when it was Brock, Angle and Hogan vs Big show and W.G.T.T.

[Kane Knight]

Who was it that brought up the fact that the crowd chanted "USA!" one time during a match and nether of the 4 competitors were American?
You're probably thinking of me. La Res vs Edge and Benoit. The only guy who was American was Conway (Who wasn't listed as from the US anyway), and they were cheering the Canadian faces with "USA! USA!"

[Shadow]

Once again Vince has turned controversy into great TV. Or in this case, great internet.

[Hired Hitman]

How could the crowd not cheer for Muhammad Hassan after that, he is 100% correct, he was telling the truth, I guess we can rely on the "American" Crowd to boo Hassan because he is telling the truth/Arabian.

That promo made me hate America. :D

[Loose Cannon]

Wow, what a promo. I love that. Fired right back at idiotic writers and the fans. Excellent stuff.

[Loose Cannon]

Woah, check out the heat Daivari got. jesus christ.

[shawn112233]

I wonder how the crowd would react to Hassan if Smackdown! were in another country like Canada...

[u03gks]

See, this is my only problem with the Hassan gimmick so far. When he 'performs' in an arena not in the States he should play up to the local crowd and further berate his treatment in America and perhaps state he wished America was more like, for example, Canada. Kinda how Bret Hart was a heel only in the US and a face elsewhere back in the day.

Great promo though.

[TerranRich]

You're probably thinking of me. La Res vs Edge and Benoit. The only guy who was American was Conway (Who wasn't listed as from the US anyway), and they were cheering the Canadian faces with "USA! USA!"

THAT'S the one! I find that infintely hilarious to this very day. Marks are idiots. :yes:

[Goulet]

THAT'S the one! I find that infintely hilarious to this very day. Marks are idiots. :yes:
They've been doing that for years... I remember at Wrestlemania IX when it was Bret Hart Vs. Yokozuna and the morons were chanting USA...USA...USA and Heenan made the comment that Yoko was Japanese and Hart was Canadian

[TerranRich]

Okay, so there were several that I was thinking of.

Man, Bobby Heenan is the best.

[Kane Knight]

How could the crowd not cheer for Muhammad Hassan after that, he is 100% correct, he was telling the truth, I guess we can rely on the "American" Crowd to boo Hassan because he is telling the truth/Arabian.

That promo made me hate America. :D
It's not because he's telling the truth, it's because he's telling an unpopular truth. Nobody (In this country) wants to admit that we're treating our own citizens unjustly, and nobody wants to be shown up for assuming those fat white guys were arab terrorists.

It's less about the truth and more about what we want to hear.

[Kane Knight]

THAT'S the one! I find that infintely hilarious to this very day. Marks are idiots. :yes:
And they will likely continue to be.

[KingofOldSchool]

I should goto a Smackdown event wearing a turban.

[Kane Knight]

That'd be funny...Until they killed you.

[KingofOldSchool]

That'd be funny...Until they killed you.

I'd be on a Wrestling Jihad.
:shifty:

[KingofOldSchool]

*watches what I say or I'll have the Federal Bureau of Idiots coming to my job*

[Kane Knight]

I'd be on a Wrestling Jihad.
:shifty:
You'd be a hate crime.

I could see the war now.

[Kane Knight]

*watches what I say or I'll have the Federal Bureau of Idiots coming to my job*
"We heard you were talking about wrestling and using strange ethnic terms."

"You mean Jihad?"

"YEs."

"Don't you guys have intelligence people you pay to translate?"

"We fired them. They were homos."

[YOUR Hero]

Let the new attitude era begin.

[shawn112233]

Is there any way to d/load this to my desktop? Whenever I want to watch it again, it has to rebuffer...

Here's the video, for anyone who wants to save it to their computer...

http://rapidshare.de/files/3056368/hassanresponds300.wmv.html
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=281F4JGC

[The CyNick]

Hassan is awesome.

Fans are so dumb. He's going off about he's an American, and all they can come up with is "USA USA", so ignorant, so racist.

[Kane Knight]

Good thing you're not a fan of wrestling then.

[The CyNick]

I would never chant "USA USA" at an American who is claiming he is an American.

[Volchok]

He should seriously just bust out and say " Are you people retarded I AM AMERICAN."

[Kane Knight]

I would never chant "USA USA" at an American who is claiming he is an American.
What's your point. You're whining about how stupid "Fans" are, not how stupid "racist bigoted fans who chant USA! at an American are."

[Kane Knight]

He should seriously just bust out and say " Are you people retarded I AM AMERICAN."
Can't remember who said it, but someone suggested he say "I'm from Detroit you idiots."

Remember though, that they're not chanting a nationality, but an idea/ideal. He's questioning that same ideal.

[The CyNick]

What's your point. You're whining about how stupid "Fans" are, not how stupid "racist bigoted fans who chant USA! at an American are."

I'm not whining, I'm just pointing out that fans who chant that are really stupid or really racsist.

Does that bother you......are you one of those fans.....you are aren't you.

[Kane Knight]

I'm not whining, I'm just pointing out that fans who chant that are really stupid or really racsist.

Does that bother you......are you one of those fans.....you are aren't you.
Yes, I obviously am, because I pointed out that you said "fans" instead of targetting specific people.

For someone who's complaining about really stupid people, you don't read very well.

But that's okay. You're probably bitter. I understand this. I'm sure if my insider info was all guesswork and outdated material (TEH NET IS A SMALL FANBASE OR IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY LAST LOOKED AT IT! NOTHING HAS CHANGED), my nipples would be a little chafed too.

I feel for ya, man. You think you're special, and then you get punked. That's gotta hurt. And then, you get called on another stupid statement, one where you say "fans are stupid." And you really look like an ass. IT's okay. Go put on some Alanis Morrisette, put the gun in your mouth, and squeeze your tears away.

[The CyNick]

Yes, I obviously am, because I pointed out that you said "fans" instead of targetting specific people.

For someone who's complaining about really stupid people, you don't read very well.

But that's okay. You're probably bitter. I understand this. I'm sure if my insider info was all guesswork and outdated material (TEH NET IS A SMALL FANBASE OR IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY LAST LOOKED AT IT! NOTHING HAS CHANGED), my nipples would be a little chafed too.

I feel for ya, man. You think you're special, and then you get punked. That's gotta hurt. And then, you get called on another stupid statement, one where you say "fans are stupid." And you really look like an ass. IT's okay. Go put on some Alanis Morrisette, put the gun in your mouth, and squeeze your tears away.

And I'm the one who is whining right?

So you think the Internet fanbase is a large portion of the WWE's total fanbase?

Do you think its larger than 10%, 25%, 50%?

I'd just like to know how offbase you really are.

If the Internet fanbase was so huge the entire arena would have been chanting for Hardy all these weeks, instead of a few hundred of them (if that).

Like I said Ive been to many shows, and some recently and Ive seen with my own eyes how small the portion of fans are that know about this inside stuff.

[Kane Knight]

I'd like to know your sources.

First off, I'm not whining. I'm mocking you, and there's a huge difference.

Second off, I've never claimed that there was a specific percentage of internet fans. I claimed you were running off the same outdated bullshit everyone else was running off of. Feel free to prove me wrong, because I'd love to know some hard numbers that don't come from a time when WCW was still running. Or for you to say something that wasn't safe and generic for once.

Basically, I care less about being right and more about your reliable factual information. I'm calling your bluff, Nick. If you know then give us a hard answer. If not, sit down, shut the fuck up, and be like every other mark on the net.

Third, I love how you simultaneously claim that I need to go to shows, and that I'm one of the people chanting USA. Not only can't you figure out that they're not chanting for a country (But rather an ideal), you can't figure out that both claims cannot be simultaneously true.

Fourth, so the small number of chants for HArdy are proof that the net fanbase is small? Well then, the HUGE pops for Hogan prove he's a draw. Come on Nick, you're going against your own logic for convenience. And using hearsay too, a bad way to make any argument.

Fifth: You were the ones who said fans were idiots. I must say, you're acting like a pretty big fan right now. :yes:

[Volchok]

Seeing that makes me ashamed im an American.. I mean you see that there are people in the crowd with " Get Out Of America " signs when he is from American he was born in America... Just to see how people can be so ignorant just pisses me off..

[SuperSlim]

I just wanna say that was a good promo

[Volchok]

Yeah it was...

[The CyNick]

I'd like to know your sources.

First off, I'm not whining. I'm mocking you, and there's a huge difference.

Second off, I've never claimed that there was a specific percentage of internet fans. I claimed you were running off the same outdated bullshit everyone else was running off of. Feel free to prove me wrong, because I'd love to know some hard numbers that don't come from a time when WCW was still running. Or for you to say something that wasn't safe and generic for once.

Basically, I care less about being right and more about your reliable factual information. I'm calling your bluff, Nick. If you know then give us a hard answer. If not, sit down, shut the fuck up, and be like every other mark on the net.

Third, I love how you simultaneously claim that I need to go to shows, and that I'm one of the people chanting USA. Not only can't you figure out that they're not chanting for a country (But rather an ideal), you can't figure out that both claims cannot be simultaneously true.

Fourth, so the small number of chants for HArdy are proof that the net fanbase is small? Well then, the HUGE pops for Hogan prove he's a draw. Come on Nick, you're going against your own logic for convenience. And using hearsay too, a bad way to make any argument.

Fifth: You were the ones who said fans were idiots. I must say, you're acting like a pretty big fan right now. :yes:

I was saying fans in the context of the promo Hassan cut at the SD tapings and the people who were chanting USA, those people are morons. For some reason you couldn't figure that out without having it spelled out to you.

The fact that the internet community is small can be proven in several ways. Read the WWE financials from time to time, they talk about Internet traffic for various things, and it rarely anything more than a couple hundred thousand. Their total fanbase going by their TV audience (its bigger because of non-US fans who do count in TV numbers but could be on wwe.com) is about 5 million. So, say there are 500,000 fans on wwe.com and 5 million total fans, Math 101 says that only 10%. And again, thats a number that skewed higher than it really is, as I mentioned.

Also, sites like this one and others have a very small number of users. Ive been to several sites that are considered popular and the majority of them have fewer viewers than this one does.

Listen to Internet/Radio shows about wrestling, every week you get the same people calling in, and I know from a reliable source that the numbers are not huge for any of those shows. Again, showing the Internet audience isn't all that big.

Finally, as I said, go to events and check out the number of people who will chant or yell stuff that that has to do with insider things. When I see a few hundred people out of 4 or 5 thousand, I can tell you its a small percentage. Even here in Toronto, which has a larger than average smark fanbase (which is why you get all the pro heel chants and whatnot) its still maybe at most 20% of the crowd that is into the chants, the rest of the crowd seem connfused by the whole thing.

I never once mentioend WCW, so I dont get where you're getting that from, but hey go ahead make up stuff if it helps you.

I can prove Hogan is not a draw by buyrates and attendance figures, I will also be able to prove that Hardy cant draw by the insignificant amount of interest this angle draws,a nd the fact that he wont drive numbers up. Again, if I'm wrong about that, I'll be the first to admit it.

The Hogan thing actually helps prove my point. Hogan gets 15 minute ovations from virtually the entire crowd, and yet that doesn't result in him doing big business. Its only logical that when a much smaller percentage of the audience is popping for something it will mean even less for business.

Pops really dont mean much, but all I was saying was that the people cheering for Hardy are a very small percentage of the total audience in the arenas, which is parallel to the fact that the Internet community (those who "get" this angle and those who were doing the chanting) is a very small percentage of the total WWE audince. For some reason I thought that would be an easy concept to grasp, but apparently its not.

KK, I appreciate the effort with you trying to "call my bluff" or whatever, you've got a good future kid, but you're fighting a losing battle. Stick to posting opinions, and leave me out of it.

[Corkscrewed]

I've seen 2 of the best worked shoot within 3 days of each other

Great! just great
I can't for the life of me come up with what the other can possibly be. Answer? :)

[Gone Mad]

Just saw the Hassan promo and yes, his best promo yet. I just love how he said "I'm an American" and then the fans went "BOOOOOOO!!!" I was like wtf? Besides that, this promo was good so people, simmer down. This is only wrestling and they are fueding with a guy that has 'died' over 4 times now and can shoot lightning at people, so lighten up, media.

[Kane Knight]

Just saw the Hassan promo and yes, his best promo yet. I just love how he said "I'm an American" and then the fans went "BOOOOOOO!!!" I was like wtf? Besides that, this promo was good so people, simmer down. This is only wrestling and they are fueding with a guy that has 'died' over 4 times now and can shoot lightning at people, so lighten up, media.
The media's job is not to provide news, but to promote controversy.

[Joey Slugs]

The media's job is not to provide news, but to promote controversy.

like Fox News bitching at the British Government for not having something like our wonderful "patriot act", and it's their fault they got bombed in the first place just a day after it all happened. :nono:

the american right wing republican controlled media fucking SUCKS.

hassan just passed up CC as my only reason to watch SD!