View Full Version : this whole matt lita and edge thig is bs
Tombstone275
08-25-2005, 08:24 PM
Ok now I am sure that everyone has probably said something on this matter or even said the same thing, but I am seriously convinced that all this shit that went down, even the stuff that was done "outside" of wrestling is all completely bull shit. If you think about it... its actually ingenious. What I think happened is that Vince Mcmahon was looking for a way to revamp the wwe. Its not as popular as it once was and he needed to change that. The biggest stigma with professional wrestling is that it is all fake. The outcomes are fake, the storylines are fake, everything. Well the best way to get around that is to bring the drama to the real world. At least make it seem as it has. Vince "released" matt and matt started spreading some story about how lita cheated on him. Vince even got edge's wife in on it and she was running around saying shit. That of course worked perfectly because the next week everyone in the audience was chanting we want matt. Then matt was talking to his fans on his website and started talks with tna wrestling.
With all this goin on you mean to tell me that the wwe just took matt back for the hell of it... or because the fans rose enough of a stink to bring him back.And after all of what happend Matt would just return without any question and agree to losing a match to edge... better yet not actually kill him in the ring for what he did. No way... the entire thing was thought up, and made up.
Nervous Ferret
08-25-2005, 08:25 PM
go away
u r gay
Shadow
08-25-2005, 08:29 PM
Way to get caught up there junior.
Also...you're an idiot.
PureHatred
08-25-2005, 08:30 PM
Dave Youell for MOD.
Favre4Ever
08-25-2005, 09:04 PM
BAH GAWD!
Stickman
08-25-2005, 09:09 PM
You know, I think he may be right.
Aussie Skier
08-25-2005, 09:11 PM
i'm not exactly sure if ur kidding or not...because i have fallen for jokes from time to time.
But seriously, if this was made up, then answer me one question...its just a one word question, and have a serious think about it.
KANE?
- ok, if it was all an angle...then why would kane have been in it???
tombstone275 your rep says you smell like donkey shit but me personally i wish you would just move to nebraska
ThruTheWire
08-25-2005, 10:15 PM
tombstone275 your rep says you smell like donkey shit but me personally i wish you would just move to nebraska
Ohs nos...
http://www.amazingsyco.com/funny/Funnay-IEError.jpg
oh are you trying to insult me
oh so sorry dont have time to play with 4 year olds
Nervous Ferret
08-25-2005, 10:36 PM
N00b World Order
They're taking over :(
Kane Knight
08-25-2005, 10:37 PM
Don't bait the morons.
ThruTheWire
08-25-2005, 11:14 PM
N00b World Order
They're taking over :(
Like I said before, direct me to the place I can register with 48284 posts and familiarity, otherwise shut your mouth because.. *Gasp* ... you were a noob to this forum before too.
Shadow
08-25-2005, 11:19 PM
Like I said before, direct me to the place I can register with 48284 posts and familiarity, otherwise shut your mouth because.. *Gasp* ... you were a noob to this forum before too.
Yeah but eventually we all learned how not to be an idiot. You don't seem to me to be the type that learns. At all.
ThruTheWire
08-25-2005, 11:22 PM
Yeah but eventually we all learned how not to be an idiot. You don't seem to me to be the type that learns. At all.
Im only at post 79.. these things take time for me.
Kane Knight
08-25-2005, 11:44 PM
Yeah but eventually we all learned how not to be an idiot. You don't seem to me to be the type that learns. At all.
Yeah. Shadow himself has gone from "Stoned Jeff Hardy Mark" to "Shadow Coinspiracy Leader."
A lateral step if you ask me, but at least he doesn't SOUND as stupid. ;)
Shadow
08-25-2005, 11:45 PM
Please...it's a step up if anything.
TerranRich
08-26-2005, 12:09 AM
You act like an idiot only if you're a n00b to FORUMS in general. After you've been in a couple of forums, you know better. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never acted as n00bish as some of these new guys have.
Also, being a n00b is more of a state of mind than a learning curve. If "these things take time", then please, go practice somewhere else.
Kane Knight
08-26-2005, 12:12 AM
You act like an idiot only if you're a n00b to FORUMS in general. After you've been in a couple of forums, you know better. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never acted as n00bish as some of these new guys have.
Also, being a n00b is more of a state of mind than a learning curve. If "these things take time", then please, go practice somewhere else.
Keep in mind the difference between the terms newb/newbie and n00b.
One is someone who's new. One is someone who's an idiot.
TPWW tends to get more n00bs than newbies.
Some of the n00bs eventually learn, and become decent. Most do not.
ThruTheWire
08-26-2005, 12:13 AM
You act like an idiot only if you're a n00b to FORUMS in general. After you've been in a couple of forums, you know better. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never acted as n00bish as some of these new guys have.
Also, being a n00b is more of a state of mind than a learning curve. If "these things take time", then please, go practice somewhere else.
I'll admit I acted like a jackass in most of my posts and said alot of stupid shit...
TerranRich
08-26-2005, 12:21 AM
Okay, then allow me to change my statement: You only act like a n00b if you're a newbie to forums in general. After you've been in a couple of forums, you would know better. Being a n00b is more of a state of mind than a learning curve. If "these things take time", then go eat shit. :p
ThruTheWire
08-26-2005, 12:25 AM
Okay, then allow me to change my statement: You only act like a n00b if you're a newbie to forums in general. After you've been in a couple of forums, you would know better. Being a n00b is more of a state of mind than a learning curve. If "these things take time", then go eat shit. :p
I ususally hate forums, this is the only one I've ever registered to. I've always come to TPWW but never really the forums. So I guess I'll just go eat shit. :cool:. But I actually like this one.
Joey Slugs
08-26-2005, 03:23 AM
N00b World Order
They're taking over :(
please don't put me in with these assclowns.
Dave Youell
08-26-2005, 03:25 AM
Dave Youell for MOD.
Dave thanks you for your support, here have a rep
Infact
FREE REP FOR ALL WHO SUPPORT DAVE!!
By the way - the use of the term "n00b" is more of an insult because a "n00b" is usually someone, regardless of how new they are to something, act like an idiot. It'd be fairer to call them "newbies" or "new people".:p
(This is how it is on the online gaming community, you guys may differ)
Chavo Classic
08-26-2005, 08:11 AM
please don't put me in with these assclowns.
Nah. You have two of those green rep thingies and over 500 posts so you're not a newbie (or a n00b) to me. :y:
Impact!
08-26-2005, 08:25 AM
Go Dave Youell 4 MOD.......:shifty:
Give me my rep now Bitch
Hey from what Chavo just said I'm not a n00b, but apparently your supposed to be a n00b unless you joined before 2002. That's confusing.
Chavo Classic
08-26-2005, 08:32 AM
You're not a n00b to me, but what KK said is a fairly accurate way of deciding -
Keep in mind the difference between the terms newb/newbie and n00b.
One is someone who's new. One is someone who's an idiot... Some of the n00bs eventually learn, and become decent. Most do not.
So, you're not a n00b.
Impact!
08-26-2005, 09:12 AM
:y:
Kane Knight
08-26-2005, 11:19 AM
By the way - the use of the term "n00b" is more of an insult because a "n00b" is usually someone, regardless of how new they are to something, act like an idiot. It'd be fairer to call them "newbies" or "new people".:p
(This is how it is on the online gaming community, you guys may differ)
Thanks for covering it. It's not like I beatcha to it by like 6 posts or so. :)
SuperSlim
08-26-2005, 11:21 AM
hook, line, and sinker
Johnny Vegas
08-26-2005, 11:38 AM
God Damnit, the guy posted a thread..give him a break...:roll:
Kane Knight
08-26-2005, 12:25 PM
Yeah, let's give him a break. He's pritty dumb, he clearly needs one.
PureHatred
08-26-2005, 01:43 PM
The affair was real.
Matt acting like an ass was a real.
Matt getting fired was real.
The fans' reactions were real.
This great storyline falling into their laps, Vince hiring Matt back because he realized it was a great storyline, Matt keeping up the pretense was a way to keep up the shoot feel; but it was real. And then the writers and staff screwing it all up by burying Matt instantly was all real.
Kane Knight is fake :shifty:
Kane Knight
08-26-2005, 01:55 PM
IT's true. :'(
Savio
08-26-2005, 01:58 PM
Dave Youell for MOD.
shawn112233
08-26-2005, 02:51 PM
i'm not exactly sure if ur kidding or not...because i have fallen for jokes from time to time.
But seriously, if this was made up, then answer me one question...its just a one word question, and have a serious think about it.
KANE?
- ok, if it was all an angle...then why would kane have been in it???
maybe they needed to involve Kane to kill some time before actually starting the feud involving lita, matt and edge...or maybe they jst needed to give Kane something to do.
EDIT: Dave Youell for MOD. (I could use some rep :-\ )
Tombstone275
08-26-2005, 03:31 PM
call me what you want but there is no way all that was real.... it was all thought up to begin with. This story didnt just fall into the wwe's lab and they then began to use it. Thats absurd. No normal bussiness man would take the risk of rehiring someone like matt hardy if all that stuff he did outside of wrestling was real. Vince would not take the chance of Matt trying to seriously injure edge in the ring. This is and has been from the beginning an angle. And to all of you who dont think so are just as dumb as the jackasses that say wwe is real and the matches are an actual competition.
Schoenauer
08-26-2005, 03:48 PM
Dave Youell for MOD!
Where does Hardy go from here though?
Kane Knight
08-26-2005, 03:59 PM
call me what you want but there is no way all that was real.... it was all thought up to begin with. This story didnt just fall into the wwe's lab and they then began to use it.
Right.
Thats absurd. No normal bussiness man would take the risk of rehiring someone like matt hardy if all that stuff he did outside of wrestling was real.
1) Vince isn't a normal businessman.
2) A normal business man would do what was best for business. The FANS turned Lita heel, the FANS demanded Matt.
3) Vince doesn't do the internet. What reasonable person would believe that he would do this?
Vince would not take the chance of Matt trying to seriously injure edge in the ring.
Vince hires reckless wrestlers. Vince hires violent wrestlers. Vince hries bullies. but OH NOES! He won't hire someone because they might hurt someone!
This is and has been from the beginning an angle. And to all of you who dont think so are just as dumb as the jackasses that say wwe is real and the matches are an actual competition.
The irony there is overwhelming. The sheer leap of faith you need to take to rationalise that his might have been a complete work displays a naivety above and beyond anyone who thinks wrestling is real.
PureHatred
08-26-2005, 05:02 PM
call me what you want but there is no way all that was real.... it was all thought up to begin with. This story didnt just fall into the wwe's lab and they then began to use it. Thats absurd. No normal bussiness man would take the risk of rehiring someone like matt hardy if all that stuff he did outside of wrestling was real. Vince would not take the chance of Matt trying to seriously injure edge in the ring. This is and has been from the beginning an angle. And to all of you who dont think so are just as dumb as the jackasses that say wwe is real and the matches are an actual competition.
OK..so they planned out that Matt would take time away from the ring and while that was happening he would release on his website - not on wwe.com, not in the storylines - a story about Lita sleeping with Edge. At this point on TV Lita is still playing the wounded heroine face and is involved with Kane/Snitsky/Trish and has nothing to do with Edge.
Hardy is an ignored midcarder with a limited fanbase, but Vince & Co were 100% certain that the rumor would get out and spread. So they fired Matt in a premeptive move. To rile up the crowds. And they kept Lita as a face only until the chants of SLUT and WHORE were too much to ignore and kept her involved with Kane ( to keep him busy, I guess) ...because, remember, up to this point Edge and Lita had nothing to do with each other storyline wise.
And then the turn, and again, we get lots of Edge and Lita as heels against Kane, no mention of Matt. Only until Matt has probably signed with the WWE again and is finishing his indy dates do the tease a return.
So to recap:the WWE anticipated that there would be such a fan backlash to a story leaked on a wrestler's homepage, that they built six months of storylines around a bunch of people that really had nothing to do with the rumor in the first place. How exactly was a Kane/Lita/Snitsky storyline going to fit in with Hardy and Edge? You can't even call it forethought because there is no logical progression from point A to point B.
And if this was some sort of grand scheme.....WHY FUCK IT UP BY JOBBING hARDY OUT AT THE VERY END?
There's no way the WWE planned this intricately and this far in advance.
Shadow
08-26-2005, 05:11 PM
The affair was real.
Yes...the affair was real. Definitly real. As for who was involved...meh. I don't really care much. It's a good storyline if only the WWE would stop fucking it up!
Thanks for covering it. It's not like I beatcha to it by like 6 posts or so.
Bleh. You're welcome. I thought TerranRich had the only post on the topic (obviously not).:$
Kane Knight
08-26-2005, 07:45 PM
Thanks for covering it. It's not like I beatcha to it by like 6 posts or so.
Bleh. You're welcome. I thought TerranRich had the only post on the topic (obviously not).:$
MEh. The important thing is that we're all here, united in our desire to kill whitey.
The Mackem
08-27-2005, 06:31 AM
Fucking sell outs
Down with Dave!
RottingFreak
08-27-2005, 06:40 AM
Well this is all very intersting and all.. But I think the whole Matt Hardy thing was nothing more than Vince realising there's money to be made with this whole thing.
Matt, for the money of course, decided to accept the offer.. That's all that happened..
It probably was never planned. Nope..
Kane Knight
08-27-2005, 11:16 AM
If they did indeed plan it, it was a huge gamble, especially considering how little they think of the internet.
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