NFL 2005 Season Thread

[Skippord]

Props to the Steelers. They played a great game. I'm not gonna pull the old "they beat themselves" garbage like some fans and media members did last week. That's bull. Disappointing end to the season for the Broncos, but they did a lot more than people expected. They'll be back.

Oh fuck it "they beat themselves" :shifty:

[punt]

CNM, agreed, nobody would have suspected that the Broncos would have had this type of season.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

lol, broncos.

[Skippord]

I expected it :shifty:

[FearedSanctity]

Plummer kicked our ass

[CNM]

Oh, and major props to corndad. Yeah he's a Steelers fan, but he nailed the AFC bracket perfectly. Impressive

[punt]

I hope the Seahawks win the next game. Steelers match up better with them - the Panthers scare the hell out of me. Great defense and I don't think anybody can stop Smith.

[D Mac]

Oh fuck it "they beat themselves" :shifty:

rofl

[D Mac]

first 6 seed ever to go to the SB

[punt]

+ they did it ALL on the road

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I dunno I think this might've been Denver's best shot. Unless Colts fuck up next year they will probably have #1 or #2 seed, if Pats stay healthy they'll get the other - if they can't win with home field I don't see how Denver can make it.

[D Mac]

Yep it was, because the Chiefs will be the team of the AFC next year.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yep it was, because the Chiefs will be the team of the AFC next year.

Remind me, who's taken over the OC now

[CNM]

The Colts had homefield as well, so you could make the same argument for them. Plus the Broncos have young players with the potential to get better. They'll be back.

[punt]

Herm Edwards

[FearedSanctity]

Texans get their new coach tomorrow

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Are you sure? I thought they promoted the OL coach to replace Saunders, something like that.

[D Mac]

Mike Solari

[punt]

Oh, sorry, you were wanting the new Offensive coach

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah I said OC not HC, now that Al Saunders bolted for the Redskins. I just wonder how much of an effect it will have on that offence.

[Skippord]

Yep it was, because the Chiefs will be the team of the AFC next year.

uh...yeah

[Skippord]

Lets go Panthers clap clap clap

[Skippord]

*Burns John Lynch Jersey* :shifty:

[D Mac]

uh...yeah

Glad you agree. :)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Dan Morgan will give Shaun Alexander excedrin headache #278037 [/Gorilla Monsoon]

[OssMan]

Roethlisberger's pretty unbelievable for a 23 year old. Wonder if any Giants fans have had 2nd thoughts about the draft last year.
http://boards.giants.com/forums/index.php?showforum=2

[D Mac]

Terry Bradshaw said the Steelers will beat either one of these teams.

[RoXer]

Miz are you at this game? Or acting like you're at this game?

[punt]

Terry Bradshaw said the Steelers will beat either one of these teams.

I hope so

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Mike Mularkey is the new Dolphins OC btw

[darkpower]

Everybody needs to shut the fuck up about Bettis' parents though, seriously. They travel to see him, WE GET IT.

It's a big deal when you consider just how long they have gone without being in the stands for one of his games.

Oh, and congrats to MY home team, the Steelers.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

But you just know they're going to run some damn 15 minute special on them at some point and the whole interview will be a simpering pathetic excuse for journalism.

[darkpower]

Terry Bradshaw said the Steelers will beat either one of these teams.

And I agree. Panthers or the Seahawks, they would've rather seen Plummer, who has been called to implode sometime this season ALL season, and an unsure Broncos team, rather than a steamrolling Steelers team and a RED hot Rothlesberger.

Steelers are winning Super Bowl XL.

[The Miz]

SENECA WALLACE MOTHERFUCKERS

[The Miz]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JERRAMY

[Loose Cannon]

YEAAAAAAAAAA. Knock these fucks out.

[The Miz]

Miz are you at this game? Or acting like you're at this game?

I wish I was there. Party at the Miz' though. We're not freaking out quite like the people at Qwest, yet

[Loose Cannon]

Miz brought his laptop to the stadium

[Loose Cannon]

lol, security would flip thier lids if some guy was sitting there with a computer

[The Miz]

I've brought my laptop to Safeco before, they don't really care too much. Qwest, no way

[The Miz]

TATUPU TATOOS YOU BITCH

[Loose Cannon]

Bang!!!

[MVP]

Seattle owns

[RoXer]

Tuu-Tuu Poo

[RoXer]

hahaha that is so funny

[The Miz]

Patriots > Your Favorite Team

[UmbrellaCorporation]

SEATTLE FTW, BITCHES.


Seahawks/Steelers Super Bowl. Book it.

[The Miz]

Goings goes down, who's left for Carolina? Jamal Robertson? He Hate Me?

[Loose Cannon]

LOL, what was that shit

[The Miz]

MARQUAND HOLY SHIT. WTF was that

[Loose Cannon]

This is like Madden on easy mode

[Loose Cannon]

and I'm the Seahawks

[UmbrellaCorporation]

This is like Madden on easy mode and I'm the Seahawks


LOL


I know. I don't want to jinx my Hawks, but this isn't a game so far. It's a rape.

[D Mac]

BLOWOUT

[D Mac]

Patriots > Your Favorite Team

no

[The Miz]

Diesel Mac, you have got to be the most generic poster of all time.

But if Rocky Bernard ever for any reason wanted me to have sex with him, I would say yes

[OssMan]

zteve zmith

[The Miz]

Rouen you are the biggest piece of shit ever

[Skippord]

Steve Smith>Seahawks special teams

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Steve Smith = Overrated.


Panthers shouldn't have got shit on that play.

[Skippord]

Yeah Smith is totally overrated what with his domination of one of the best defenses in the league.And his insane amount of big plays.

[D Mac]

Diesel Mac, you have got to be the most generic poster of all time.



:cool:

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I hope Seattle continues this molestation of Carolina. Fucking hate the Panthers

[UmbrellaCorporation]

20 - 7 Seattle! :love:

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Sorry, meant 27 - 7 Seattle. :D

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Looks like Seattle vs Pitt in the Superbowl. I usually always want the Steelers to lose, but I kinda want to see Bettis finally get a ring. Plus Big Ben is a cool shit, If there is a ton of "terrible towels" in the stands at the Superbowl I might have to throw up in my mouth though.

At the sametime, it would be cool to see Hasselbeck win one since he is from MA (I scrimmaged againest his high school in football one time) and went to Boston College. Plus Peter Warrick plays for them and I've always been a Warrick fan.

[Corndad]

Oh, and major props to corndad. Yeah he's a Steelers fan, but he nailed the AFC bracket perfectly. Impressive

Why thank you The Carolina Pick aint look good at the moment... but eh, ill take it.

[Gonzo]

Although I hope the Steelers kick the shit out of Seattle, and I preferred to see the Panthers in the Bowl, I'm also glad the Hawks beat the Panthers. I hate Jake Delhomme, he gets visibly frustrated a lot and you see it all the time.

[YOUR Hero]

Cue the comeback











:shifty:

[UmbrellaCorporation]

lol, I love that 1.6 comment. All I heard on TV was something about how you can't graduate from some school with that GPA.

[The Miz]

Although I hope the Steelers kick the shit out of Seattle, and I preferred to see the Panthers in the Bowl, I'm also glad the Hawks beat the Panthers. I hate Jake Delhomme, he gets visibly frustrated a lot and you see it all the time.

But you're an Eli Manning fan?

[Gonzo]

Theres a difference between looking dejected after a bad play, which every QB or player does, but I see it on TV all the time, Delhomme throwing a hissy fit.

[D Mac]

Congrats to both teams.

[AlphaBean]

I see Jake throwing a fit and I also see him flipping out like a little girl when he's happy, too. I mean, it's no "I WANT THE BALL AND IM GONNA SCORE" or whatever, but it's emotion just the same.

I dunno, didn't read any of the replies but... it all came down to one team having the MVP, and the other team didn't. :(

Stupid Deshawn Foster's faggot ass leg. WTF. Stupid Panthers. I thought it was gonna be a Wildcard superbowl 4 sure. :'(

[Skippord]

Well now that I'm done weeping lets go Steelers clap clap clap

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Alexander showed up today, while the Panthers running game did not. That was the difference. Even with a huge punt return TD by Smith, the Panthers really looked out matched the entire time. Seahawks defense played real well, granted they weren't going againest the best the Panthers had to offer - he's still a pretty succesful NFL running back, they showed a lot of energy and were really getting after the ball. I think if Seattle's defense is as active on the Superbowl as it was today, I really don't see the Steelers having a chance.

Im sure people will want to talk about Delhomme's horrible numbers, I don't really like Delhomme at all because he is a kind of a spaz, but with running game like the Panthers had today no QB would have been succesful.

[Gonzo]

...I don't really like Delhomme at all because he is a kind of a spaz...

This is exactly what I mean.

[AareDub]

The Panthers have been inconsistent all year. Some games they looked dominant, while others they looked like ass. They couldn't expect to make it through the playoffs without an ass-like performance.

I'm picking the Steelers in the Super Bowl, but deep down I'm still hoping there's some way the Packers can come back and win it all. *crosses fingers*

[AlphaBean]

Alexander showed up today, while the Panthers running game did not. That was the difference. Even with a huge punt return TD by Smith, the Panthers really looked out matched the entire time. Seahawks defense played real well, granted they weren't going againest the best the Panthers had to offer - he's still a pretty succesful NFL running back, they showed a lot of energy and were really getting after the ball. I think if Seattle's defense is as active on the Superbowl as it was today, I really don't see the Steelers having a chance.

Im sure people will want to talk about Delhomme's horrible numbers, I don't really like Delhomme at all because he is a kind of a spaz, but with running game like the Panthers had today no QB would have been succesful.

Right... I saw Jake throw to some other receivers, but like... Colbert wouldn't get open, and Mangum dropped a crucial pass early on. With all that, you start losing all confidence, and key in on your star (who also happens to be whining for the ball). When they have a man on him, one over the top and a spy all on one receiver, it's pretty fucking hard to get him the ball -- unless he was Randy Moss three years ago. The difference is, Smith is only like 5'9, he can't get over DBs like Moss. So a double or a triple team will destroy him like it did.

But the Steelers have a running game. One hell of a running game, to be exact. You cannot pressure Big Ben when you have to account for the Bus, who is in his last game, back home in Detroit... he's going to be so unbelievably pumped. He was giggling like a girl after yesterday's game "Hi guys! Enjoy the game? :love:"

I think a combination of that running game, plus the fact that Cowher is a better coach than John Fox, I don't care what Howie Long or anyone else says... you don't stay that good for that long with Kordell Stewart at QB when you're not a good coach.

I think the hawks can win, but I think the Steelers can also run away with this one. They beat the #1 #2 and #3 seeds to get here. In the AFC; and the AFC is far stronger than the NFC... so it's like the Steelers have already beaten team as good or better than the Hawks three times in the playoffs alone!

I only hope they don't get ahead of themselves. This is Pitt's game to lose, but since they're finally not the underdog playing in a hostile environment, who knows what they'll do?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Panthers had a pretty good defense too though and the Seahawks didnt really have much trouble. AFC is much better then the NFC but the Seahawks are the NFC's best team. Its the same as the NBA, the Western conference is a lot better then the Eastern Conference, but in the championship game it can go either way. (Last 2 years anyways) Should be a good game, would be a better game if the Patriots where in it though :(

[The Outlaw]

LET'S GO SEAHAWKS

[RoXer]

lol, they keep showing that hilight of Alexander jumping up and down and clapping. Assman, didn't you say you had a .gif of it?

[OssMan]

lol, they keep showing that hilight of Alexander jumping up and down and clapping. Assman, didn't you say you had a .gif of it?
yeah it was on giants message board but it got taken down from imageshack cause of bandwidth, plus giants board is retarded n i cant search for the thread

[RoXer]

just do it

[AlphaBean]

Panthers had a pretty good defense too though and the Seahawks didnt really have much trouble. AFC is much better then the NFC but the Seahawks are the NFC's best team. Its the same as the NBA, the Western conference is a lot better then the Eastern Conference, but in the championship game it can go either way. (Last 2 years anyways) Should be a good game, would be a better game if the Patriots where in it though :(

Yeah lol, dunno what's up with that. Maybe Peppers just wasn't healthy enough to do anything... but the Carolina defense looked like complete ass. :nono:

Also, I saw Salley on "Best blah blah blah period" clowning on Alexander for being gay... then Rodney Peete was talking about how he loves Shaun but has to pick his boys, then Shaun was like "Yeah you picked USC too didn't you? I'm actually glad you picked Carolina to win." :lol:

Good stuff.

[The Outlaw]

Shaun is the man.

[mrslackalack]

Read an interesting story the other day in the Lexington Herald Leader. It talked about Alexander wanting to go play for UK but they didnt even recruit him! It would have been interesting to see UK in that era with Couch at QB and Alexander at RB.

[Gonzo]

I heard Texas other than Bama.

[Gonzo]

That was pretty widely known though.

[BCWWF]

Well the teams that are apparently possible destinations for Daunte are Baltimore, Oakland, Miami, St. Louis, and Arizona.

Why not get New Orleans involved and save Leinart from looking so bad in those uniforms :p

[BCWWF]

Well the teams that are apparently possible destinations for Daunte are Baltimore, Oakland, Miami, St. Louis, and Arizona.

Why not get New Orleans involved and save Leinart from looking so bad in those uniforms :p

[BCWWF]

Well the teams that are apparently possible destinations for Daunte are Baltimore, Oakland, Miami, St. Louis, and Arizona.

Why not get New Orleans involved and save Leinart from looking so bad in those uniforms :p

[D Mac]

First triple post I have ever seen. :shifty:

[The Miz]

lol all3 posts were like an hour apart

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Dom Capers has gone to Miami too.

That's quite the staff Saban is building down there.

[The Outlaw]

lol all3 posts were like an hour apart

Not the first time I've seen a triple post, but it is the first time they've been that far apart, haha.

[AlphaBean]

It just means he was very passionate about that point, so much so that he felt it just didn't hit home the first two times.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Where the fuck is all the Superbowl hype

[Gonzo]

Where the fuck is all the Superbowl hype

The radio station I listen to on the way to school every morning said the NFL has protected the term Superbowl so that no one can use it without their consent. Even if a group of people or company is promoting it they can't use it. The radio station is throwing a big catered Superbowl party but they have to call it "The Big Day after Saturday". How ridiculous is that?

[VonErich Lives]

The radio station I listen to on the way to school every morning said the NFL has protected the term Superbowl so that no one can use it without their consent. Even if a group of people or company is promoting it they can't use it. The radio station is throwing a big catered Superbowl party but they have to call it "The Big Day after Saturday". How ridiculous is that?

Yep, and it's "Super Bowl" a few years ago there were people who bought fake tickets thinking they were real and the tickets said "Superbowl" instead of "Super Bowl" which is how the NFL has it trademarked. (50% chance I have thet reversed!)

[OssMan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2308407

IAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor faces up to 46 years in prison after two additional assault charges were filed against him Friday.

Sean Taylor
Taylor

Michael Grieco, an assistant state attorney, said the charges reflect Taylor's alleged threatening of three people with a gun in an armed confrontation over an all-terrain vehicle on June 1.

Taylor, 22, now faces three counts of aggravated assault, each of which carries a minimum sentence of three years and a maximum of 15 years in prison. He also faces one misdemeanor battery charge that carries a potential one-year prison term.

Trial is scheduled to begin March 20 for Taylor, a former University of Miami star who signed a seven-year, $18-million contract after being drafted by the Redskins in 2004. He has six interceptions and 120 tackles in his two seasons.

Taylor's attorney, Edward Carhart, said the additional charges surprised him.

"The state has had this case since June and now they're filing these added charges? It's bizarre," Carhart said.

Taylor has pleaded not guilty and remains free on $16,500 bond.

The Redskins lost to the Seattle Seahawks two weeks ago in the NFC playoffs. In a playoff victory against Tampa Bay, Taylor was ejected after spitting in the face of Buccaneers running back Michael Pittman. Earlier in that game, he ran a fumble back for a touchdown.

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dont think he is going to jail though. ray lewis and o.j simpson both killed people and didn't go. he'll get off just like any one else who has a ton of money and probably will be sentenced to community service and whatnot.

[RP]

I hope he pulls his gun on someone who has a gun of their own and he gets his face shot off.

[VonErich Lives]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2308407

IAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor faces up to 46 years in prison after two additional assault charges were filed against him Friday.

Sean Taylor
Taylor

Michael Grieco, an assistant state attorney, said the charges reflect Taylor's alleged threatening of three people with a gun in an armed confrontation over an all-terrain vehicle on June 1.

Taylor, 22, now faces three counts of aggravated assault, each of which carries a minimum sentence of three years and a maximum of 15 years in prison. He also faces one misdemeanor battery charge that carries a potential one-year prison term.

Trial is scheduled to begin March 20 for Taylor, a former University of Miami star who signed a seven-year, $18-million contract after being drafted by the Redskins in 2004. He has six interceptions and 120 tackles in his two seasons.

Taylor's attorney, Edward Carhart, said the additional charges surprised him.

"The state has had this case since June and now they're filing these added charges? It's bizarre," Carhart said.

Taylor has pleaded not guilty and remains free on $16,500 bond.

The Redskins lost to the Seattle Seahawks two weeks ago in the NFC playoffs. In a playoff victory against Tampa Bay, Taylor was ejected after spitting in the face of Buccaneers running back Michael Pittman. Earlier in that game, he ran a fumble back for a touchdown.

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dont think he is going to jail though. ray lewis and o.j simpson both killed people and didn't go. he'll get off just like any one else who has a ton of money and probably will be sentenced to community service and whatnot.

Jamal Lewis didn't kill anyone and did go.

OJ was found not guilty.

Ray Lewis I honestly don't remember all the details, but I didn't think we was the person who actually pulled any triggers which was why he was found not guilty, but I really don't remember all the details on that one.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2308407

IAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor faces up to 46 years in prison after two additional assault charges were filed against him Friday.

Sean Taylor
Taylor

Michael Grieco, an assistant state attorney, said the charges reflect Taylor's alleged threatening of three people with a gun in an armed confrontation over an all-terrain vehicle on June 1.

Taylor, 22, now faces three counts of aggravated assault, each of which carries a minimum sentence of three years and a maximum of 15 years in prison. He also faces one misdemeanor battery charge that carries a potential one-year prison term.

Trial is scheduled to begin March 20 for Taylor, a former University of Miami star who signed a seven-year, $18-million contract after being drafted by the Redskins in 2004. He has six interceptions and 120 tackles in his two seasons.

Taylor's attorney, Edward Carhart, said the additional charges surprised him.

"The state has had this case since June and now they're filing these added charges? It's bizarre," Carhart said.

Taylor has pleaded not guilty and remains free on $16,500 bond.

The Redskins lost to the Seattle Seahawks two weeks ago in the NFC playoffs. In a playoff victory against Tampa Bay, Taylor was ejected after spitting in the face of Buccaneers running back Michael Pittman. Earlier in that game, he ran a fumble back for a touchdown.

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dont think he is going to jail though. ray lewis and o.j simpson both killed people and didn't go. he'll get off just like any one else who has a ton of money and probably will be sentenced to community service and whatnot.


LOL, apparently spitting in faces was only the beginning.

[Gonzo]

To think, when he was in the draft I wanted him so bad, thank god we didn't get him.

[Crimson]

damn thugs

[The Outlaw]

LOL OJ not guilty

[D Mac]

So, do you think Matt Hasselbeck is a capable Super Bowl winning QB? Or are they just going to hope Shaun Alexander does all thier work for them?

[CNM]

If Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson can be "Super Bowl winning QB's" then so can Hasselbeck

[Skippord]

God I hate that picture of Plummer CNM

[CNM]

Thats Jake at his best

[D Mac]

Thats Jake at his best

By looking like a 70s porn star? :p

[CNM]

At heart Jake is a 70s porn star. He just embraced who he is

[FearedSanctity]

Nah. Long haired, bearded, non-interception throwing Jake is best

[D Mac]

Nah. Long haired, bearded, fumbling Jake is best

[AlphaBean]

If Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson can be "Super Bowl winning QB's" then so can Hasselbeck

Behind two of the greatest defenses in NFL history.

I might rate the Steelers up there. You can't deny Troy Polamalu and his crazy-ass hair.

[AlphaBean]

And HERE is Jake at his best.


http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Denver-Broncos.article.jpg

[Gonzo]

LOL OJ not guilty

He wasn't guilty in criminal court technically.

[D Mac]

And HERE is Jake at his best.


http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Denver-Broncos.article.jpg

rofl

[AlphaBean]

Onion Headline: "Broncos fines $25,000 by the NFL for their extremely naked bootleg."

[VonErich Lives]

If Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson can be "Super Bowl winning QB's" then so can Hasselbeck

Brad Johnson in "his day" was a pretty decent QB, I wouldn't put him with the Dilfers and Hostetlers.

[AlphaBean]

Brad Johnson in "his day" was a pretty decent QB, I wouldn't put him with the Dilfers and Hostetlers.

I'd put Dilfer up there with him, if not above. Neither ever had range, but both were accurate and could manage a game and minimize mistakes, but Dilfer was more mobile. He just was forced to sit and watch the Bucs build the team, like Dungy. Brad and Gruden were handed a SuperBowl defense.

[The Outlaw]

He wasn't guilty in criminal court technically.

lol come on

[AlphaBean]

Technically. In the strictest sense of the phrase, OJ was found not guilty by a jury of his "peers." Beyond that, who can tell? :lol: But it's true, he was criminally exhonerated.

[Gonzo]

lol come on

I didn't say he didn't do it, I'm saying technically he was found not guilty.

They got him in civil court.

I mean, he did it theres no doubt in my mind but they found him not guilty.

"If the glove don't fit you must acquit" lol

[VonErich Lives]

I'd put Dilfer up there with him, if not above. Neither ever had range, but both were accurate and could manage a game and minimize mistakes, but Dilfer was more mobile. He just was forced to sit and watch the Bucs build the team, like Dungy. Brad and Gruden were handed a SuperBowl defense.

Brad always had a better arm and yeah, Gruden took over a good team, but Dungy has had "good" teams in two places and hasn't won yet... till he at least makes a super bowl he'll carry the "regular season coach" stigma... like Marty S.

[VonErich Lives]

Also, it's been reported the plummer's hair is a tribute to Pat Tillman.

[AlphaBean]

Brad always had a better arm and yeah, Gruden took over a good team, but Dungy has had "good" teams in two places and hasn't won yet... till he at least makes a super bowl he'll carry the "regular season coach" stigma... like Marty S.

Well Dungy put together the Bucs team, Gruden gets a ring, then destroys the team... doubt he'll be sniffing the big game again under Chris Simms with Ryan Nece leading the charge.

Like Dungy said... the Colts just now have a good "team," more than just Manning... but they're one of the three youngest teams in the NFL. If the Colts don't ship him out, I foresee him getting his ring if he has patience. But you need your talent to mature before they can withstand the postseason.

[AlphaBean]

Also, it's been reported the plummer's hair is a tribute to Pat Tillman.

I plan on paying homage to Darrell Russell. :naughty:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Senior bowl at 4 eastern today on ESPN.....Get to see a lot of 1st round talent

[RP]

Colts will never win a Superbowl . Pacers will never win a Championship. I'll be a depressed sports fan for the rest of my life. Plagued by nightmares of Mike Davis sitting on the bench and watching as Indiana St erases a 20 point lead with 2 minutes to go to win by 7 ( or something along those lines ).

[VonErich Lives]

Well Dungy put together the Bucs team, Gruden gets a ring, then destroys the team... doubt he'll be sniffing the big game again under Chris Simms with Ryan Nece leading the charge.

Like Dungy said... the Colts just now have a good "team," more than just Manning... but they're one of the three youngest teams in the NFL. If the Colts don't ship him out, I foresee him getting his ring if he has patience. But you need your talent to mature before they can withstand the postseason.

Was Dungy the GM in Tampa? or did someone else "build it", and if Dungy had "won something" then they wouldn't have brought in Gruden. You're not always going to have the "best team" but that still doesn't mean you can't out coach and have the "better team that day". I dunno, I just see this being Dungy's last coaching job and being another Marty.

Also did Gruden really destroy that team, or did age and salary cap force him to rebuild?

My jury is still out on Chris Simms, how he improves this offseason will tell us where he's going to be able to go as a pro QB.

[VonErich Lives]

Colts will never win a Superbowl . Pacers will never win a Championship. I'll be a depressed sports fan for the rest of my life. Plagued by nightmares of Mike Davis sitting on the bench and watching as Indiana St erases a 20 point lead with 2 minutes to go to win by 7 ( or something along those lines ).

I used to say that about the Pats & Red Sox... never say never...

[RP]

I believe in Dungy no matter what.

[VonErich Lives]

Colts will never win a Superbowl .

I believe in Dungy no matter what.

:wtf:

[RP]

:wtf:


Theres more to a team then just the coach bro. Tony Dungy is a great coach and a great person. Thats why i believe in him.

[VonErich Lives]

Theres more to a team then just the coach bro. Tony Dungy is a great coach and a great person. Thats why i believe in him.

But, you don't believe with all the talent he has he'll be able to win a superbowl?

Personally, I don't... I think he's a great guy, I respect him and what he does (not just on the field) I just don't see him (either in Tampa or Indy) being a coach that can get a team to that "next level".

I think you put Walsh, Gibbs, Parcells, Belicheck, Johnson, just to name a few in charge of that team and they make the Superbowl, I know I just named "the best" but there are others I think would have gotten them there also.

Maybe next year is "the year"... just wait, it will be the year everyone really write them off, then they'll win it.

or even better, some off season when Daddy Manning is running his mouth, Peyton & Eli both publicly denounce him and then go on to have an all Manning Superbowl.

As I've said before, I don't dislike Peyton, however his father goes out of his way to prove how much of an ass he is. (Archie being the ass not peyton).

[RP]

I dont believe in my team at all right now. I probably wont til they are punching there ticket to the Super Bowl. But i think thats just from the playoff hangover i have.

I think Dungy can win a Superbowl. It just remains to be seen. I think he's a much better coach then Marty Ball.

[RP]

And to be quite honest ,my belief in Peyton Manning is at an all time low. You could call him anything and i probably wont argue. Not showing up for 3 quarters is flat out unacceptable.

[Skippord]

Peyton Manning is a queer

[OssMan]

no way sinorice moss is gonna be around in the second for the giants to draft him :o

[OssMan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2309549

NEW YORK -- The NFL Network will broadcast eight prime-time games on Thursdays and Saturdays beginning next season.

The eight-game package, announced by commissioner Paul Tagliabue on Saturday, will begin with a game on Thanksgiving night. All of the games also will be shown on local stations in the teams' home markets. The package was created by taking Saturday and Sunday games that originally would have been shown by the league's broadcast partners or on their regional telecasts.

The league runs the 2-year-old NFL Network, which is in about 40 million homes. The addition of games to its lineup almost assuredly will increase that number.

The league also has lucrative deals with CBS, Fox, NBC, ESPN and DirecTV.

"After discussing this new package of games with many potential partners, we decided it would be best presented on our own, high-quality NFL Network, which has developed so rapidly that the time had come to add live regular-season games to the programming," Tagliabue said. "In the end, we wanted these games on our network, which is devoted 24/7 to the sport of football, and not on a multi-sport network."

ESPN is paying $1.1 billion annually over eight years to broadcast the Monday night games. NBC has a six-year, $3.6 billion deal for the Sunday night package. CBS and Fox are paying a total of $8 billion over six years for the rights to Sunday afternoon games. DirecTV agreed to pay $3.5 billion for a five-year extension that runs through 2010.

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are you kidding? what happens to people who dont have satellite tv?

So if the Giants end up playing on Thanksgiving night then the only way to see them is to go to a restaurant to watch them play. wow

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/ALRC108012820_lower.jpg
Kids sickkkkkk..Another nasty Moss is gonna be in the NFL at wideout - its just not right.

[The Outlaw]

Brodie Croyle sonnnn.

LOL @ him being MIC'ed up and going to the wrong sideline. Ran over to the North's side and slapped someone's hand and was like "Im on the wrong side bro."

LOL hilarious

[AlphaBean]

Was Dungy the GM in Tampa? or did someone else "build it", and if Dungy had "won something" then they wouldn't have brought in Gruden. You're not always going to have the "best team" but that still doesn't mean you can't out coach and have the "better team that day". I dunno, I just see this being Dungy's last coaching job and being another Marty.

Also did Gruden really destroy that team, or did age and salary cap force him to rebuild?

My jury is still out on Chris Simms, how he improves this offseason will tell us where he's going to be able to go as a pro QB.

Dungy was the head coach. Dungy told Dennis Green to pass on Warren Sapp in the draft. They were close personal friends, he said, "Sapp is overweight, he will never succeed in the NFL."

...

Well, maybe he wasn't the GM, but the coach doesn't sit on his ass and make due with what the GM gives him, now does he?

He brought in a new and unique defense, and found the right players to do it. He had to play with Trent Dilfer and Shaun King and the Seminoles at WR; it's like the Eagles having to play with Duce Staley and Todd Pinkston/FredX -- the good defense just doesn't get it done.

So to answer your initial Q, no Dungy wasn't the GM -- but was Ted Cottrell the GM in Minnesota when we brought in Antoine Winfield, Pat Williams, Sam Cowart, Ralph Brown, Keith Newman? No. But he told the GM the players he wanted to play in his system, and the GM got them. It's never so simple as "I'm gonna get talent, you play with it,"

Unless we're talking Matt Millen in Detroit... he will draft talent and force the coach to adapt. But we see how successful that is.

[BCWWF]

are you kidding? what happens to people who dont have satellite tv?

So if the Giants end up playing on Thanksgiving night then the only way to see them is to go to a restaurant to watch them play. wow


All of the games also will be shown on local stations in the teams' home markets. The package was created by taking Saturday and Sunday games that originally would have been shown by the league's broadcast partners or on their regional telecasts.

It sometimes helps to actually read the article you post and bitch about...

[VonErich Lives]

in fairness, since the Giants play in NJ, I think only NJ should get the game.

Different sport, but the Red Sox have always had 1/2 their games on their "cable station" and 1/2 on a public/free station. They changed that, as of this season all games except Fox games will be on their station.

Expect to see this more, gives the sports/team owners more direct control of TV ad revenue and station sales.

[Gonzo]

Two things, Assman lives in Virginia, BCWWF, that is his problem.

VEL, no. That would be like saying that the Patriots should only be televised in Massachussetts where they play. What the hell would they show in New York if they didn't show the Jets or Giants, besides the Bills?

I don't understand your logic, how would it be fair to say only NJ should get Giants games broadcasted? Who the hell is being treated unfairly now that they should change it? What the hell would teams want to minimize their viewing audience for, in this specific case you brought up?

[RP]

Bret Farve might retire...again... whatever. I'm tired of Brett Farve threating retirement. Just go already.

[Gonzo]

The thing that kills me about that is, everyone was questioning whether he would retire or not and I personally never saw or hear him say he was considering it following the season.

If he does, I guess it would be okay. It is obvious that the Packers are probably building for the long run and want to shape their young QB.

[Danny Electric]

I agree.

[OssMan]

It sometimes helps to actually read the article you post and bitch about...
yeah dont really live in NY

[VonErich Lives]

Two things, Assman lives in Virginia, BCWWF, that is his problem.

VEL, no. That would be like saying that the Patriots should only be televised in Massachussetts where they play. What the hell would they show in New York if they didn't show the Jets or Giants, besides the Bills?

I don't understand your logic, how would it be fair to say only NJ should get Giants games broadcasted? Who the hell is being treated unfairly now that they should change it? What the hell would teams want to minimize their viewing audience for, in this specific case you brought up?

1) I was joking.

2) If they're only showing it in their "home state" then yeah, the Giants/Jets should only be in NJ and the Patriots would only be in Massachusetts.

That being said, in the case of the patriots I wonder what they will do, it's still going to be show'd on the local networks for the teams playing, which mostlikely means a boston station, which you can still get in parts of RI and NH, but not likely in CT, will CT be given the game? Since it's "new england" and CT is 1/2 Pats fans and 1/2 Giants fans?

It's actually a valid question, will the coverage be "home viewing area" or "home town"...

[Gonzo]

Ha okay wasn't sure if you were serious or not. :p

Typically even if the local team isn't playing the affiliate the team plays on gets the big game of the week. You know that though. The thing I like is that the Jets and Giants are in the AFC and NFC respectively, and on CBS and FOX respectively. I don't have to worry about getting shafted out of seeing my team. Now I know the Jets get priority over the Bills where I am, but if the Jets aren't on the Bills get shown.

I don't think teams would minimize their viewing audience and the article that Assman posted seems to me would be the NFL only hurting their own bottom line.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Favre needs to get out because the longer he stays on, the longer the Packers will have to wait to mold a replacement. Plus if Mike McCarthy benches him at all this year he'll get run out of town. The Packers need to sack up and put emotions aside.

[VonErich Lives]

Ha okay wasn't sure if you were serious or not. :p

Typically even if the local team isn't playing the affiliate the team plays on gets the big game of the week. You know that though. The thing I like is that the Jets and Giants are in the AFC and NFC respectively, and on CBS and FOX respectively. I don't have to worry about getting shafted out of seeing my team. Now I know the Jets get priority over the Bills where I am, but if the Jets aren't on the Bills get shown.

I don't think teams would minimize their viewing audience and the article that Assman posted seems to me would be the NFL only hurting their own bottom line.

I see the opposite, I see more people making sure they have the NFL network, more people watching exclusive NFL shown games, their network, their commercials, etc... I think you may see it even more.

Don't forget, MNF goes to ESPN, that's a cable channel also, so if you don't have Cable, you wont get MNF.

[Gonzo]

I suppose you're right in the long term VEL, but I see AssMan's gripe as of now. I have cable and I'm not worried about it. I definitely wouldn't get satelite just for the NFL Network if I was paying the bills, seeing as how it would only be one or two games my team would be playing on there in any given year, tops. Besides, cable is a lot better, satelite just jerks you around, especially for local channels. The only easy way to get them is if you're in a big market, like a NYC or a Boston.

[CNM]

Apparently T.O. was in Denver tonight talking to the Broncos. I'll see if I can find a link.

[CNM]

Here's the link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2312714

[D Mac]

Fuck no he better not go there or Oakland either. :mad:

[AlphaBean]

TO won't go to Oakland unless they get rid of Moss and he signs for a huge discount.

[AlphaBean]

Redskins should trade for Randy, and draft Sinorice, tbh.

[VonErich Lives]

I suppose you're right in the long term VEL, but I see AssMan's gripe as of now. I have cable and I'm not worried about it. I definitely wouldn't get satelite just for the NFL Network if I was paying the bills, seeing as how it would only be one or two games my team would be playing on there in any given year, tops. Besides, cable is a lot better, satelite just jerks you around, especially for local channels. The only easy way to get them is if you're in a big market, like a NYC or a Boston.

I have DTV, have had it for over 5years and rarely have had any problems.

Also, a friend of mine has cable and he gets the NFL network.

Don't get me wrong, I totally understand his "gripe" but I can't fault them for doing it makes $ and sense for them to do it.

[VonErich Lives]

TO won't go to Oakland unless they get rid of Moss and he signs for a huge discount.

Moss and TO... and then they over pay to move up and take Vince Young...

it's Al Davis... anything is possible.

[AlphaBean]

Moss and Porter split wide, with Randy in the slot? :love:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

"Maybe I'll get to a situation where somebody appreciates me."
-Edgerrin James on whether or not he will try to stay with the Colts

[RP]

"Maybe I'll get to a situation where somebody appreciates me."
-Edgerrin James on whether or not he will try to stay with the Colts


Sounds like a negotiating tactic to me IMO.

Honestly.. i want Edge here, but if he isnt here. I think we'll be all right for that stand point.

[AlphaBean]

Yeah just upgrade like you did when you got rid of Faulk.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Polian said their #1 priority is resigning Wayne and then extending Freeney's contract. I think James is outta there

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Who's else is out there though :$ Fred Taylor? Ricky Williams? Samkon Gado? :shifty:

[VonErich Lives]

Draft, it seems over the years RB seems to be one of the easiest positions to replace for some reason, it seems like everyone gets 1,000yds without a problem...

It would be good for Indy to keep him, but they have players before him.

Freeney being #1.

Maybe Manning will re do his deal so they can afford them all?

Doesn't he still take up like 1/2 the cap?

[Gonzo]

Just about any running back you plug in now a days will get 1,000 yards like VEL said, I think that the standard of a good season isn't really 1,000 yards anymore, I'd say something like 1,200 or 1,300 yards should be more like the new 1,000.

[OssMan]

my scale:

1,000 yards = running back can get it done

1,300 yards = running back is good

1,600 yards = great back

[D Mac]

Anyone want Priest Holmes? Propose your trade here.

[AlphaBean]

Onterrio Smith for Priest Holmes? Both are good for about three games.

[BCWWF]

Isn't Edge valuable because he is a good blocker too, something like that?

[AlphaBean]

He's a complete back, and when the Colts lose him, they'll realize what they were missing.

Or they think they can get high value in the draft. Maybe Maroney will join Utecht in Indy.

[D Mac]

Onterrio Smith for Priest Holmes? Both are good for about three games.

Who is he again? :shifty:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Edge can't be replaced in the draft. They might be able to plug in somebody and have that guy get 1,000 yards, but their offense will not be as dangerous as it is now.

[RP]

I dunno what will happen, but i do know Bill Polian is a personell genius. He'll figure something out. How bout Ron Dayne ? I dunno just throwing it out there. I heard J.Lewis was a free agent( not sure if thats true). He might be cheaper then Edge at this point.

Thing is. I dont see anyone giving Edge a huge deal. I'd hate to lose the guy but i'd love to gain a Power Running back who can block. I like Ron Dayne.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Edge is as much an intimidation factor as anything. Plug Dominic Rhodes in there for 16 games and teams will focus on the pass all day and night.

[RP]

Dominic Rhodes is not the answer . I'd be stunned if he was the starter next season. They'll get someone cheap in free agency or make a trade for someone. Never know. Maybe Ricky Williams. You never know.

[D Mac]

Dominic Rhodes is not the answer . I'd be stunned if he was the starter next season. They'll get someone cheap in free agency or make a trade for someone. Never know. Maybe Ricky Williams. You never know.

Trade: Priest Holmes for Marvin Harrison.

[RP]

Trade: Priest Holmes for Marvin Harrison.


how bout no

[CNM]

The Broncos are probably going to re-sign Ron Dayne

[D Mac]

how bout no

Priest has still got some spring in his step. How about we give you a first round draft pick?

[RP]

Put down the Bud Ice. Walk away.

[D Mac]

Ok we'll throw in Eddie Kennison. :shifty:

[RP]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-detroitstabbing&prov=ap&type=lgns

Oh Jesus Ray not again.

[D Mac]

Detroit is a very violent city

[Skippord]

If the Jersey dont fit you must aquite

[D Mac]

If the Jersey dont fit you must aquite

Ok, we'll give you Priest Holmes for Ashlie Lellee *spell check* and throw in a 1st round pick how about it?

[Skippord]

Fuck that Lelie is the future up in this bitch

[Skippord]

Now that he doesnt drop balls all the time

[D Mac]

Ok we'll throw in Eddie Kennison. :shifty:

[Skippord]

Yeah like we need that train wreck back again

[Bob Sanders]

I fucked Jeff Garcia's girlfriend.

[D Mac]

Sure, RP.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Jamal Lewis will be an unrestricted but a) he was terrible this year and b) Ravens will probably franchise him

[RP]

I've heard that Baltimore is more intrested in Chester Taylor then they are in Lewis. Which makes me think they may not franchise Lewis. Why pay they guy that much money for one more season when they feel Taylor can start.

I dunno. I think Lewis is still a great back and last year was a product of prison time. I'd love to see him come here for less money then Edge is asking for and at this point with the RB's in such low demand and with Edge leaving. I think it could happen. If the Ravens decide to cut him loose.

[VonErich Lives]

Lewis is on the downside of his career.
Holmes may not ever play again and if he does is probably one good hit from never walking again.

Rhodes for the money could be a decent fill in, see what he can do and still pickup someone later in the draft.

RB has become one of the easier positions to replace and with the Colts free agents coming up if you get 2 out of 3 (James, Wayne and Freeny the following season) I'd sign Wayne & Freeny. Also, his lead blocker Mungro I think is up and Larry Tripllett... Also... Vanderjagt watch, they'll spend big money in Vanderjagt and endup losing Wayne & James... :)

I think Manning counts for around 17-18mil on the cap this year, he could "redo" his contract, either defer some money, or the Colts give him a longer deal to spread out the signing bonus over more years.

[AlphaBean]

Dominic Rhodes is not the answer . I'd be stunned if he was the starter next season. They'll get someone cheap in free agency or make a trade for someone. Never know. Maybe Ricky Williams. You never know.

Oh come off it. The Colts already had Ricky Williams but released him. You can't just keep changing your mind like that.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah but now his mind has been expanded and he can see the lanes better :shifty:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I dunno. I think Lewis is still a great back and last year was a product of prison time. I'd love to see him come here for less money then Edge is asking for and at this point with the RB's in such low demand and with Edge leaving. I think it could happen. If the Ravens decide to cut him loose.

He repeatedly said during the year he was playing for as big a payday as he can get though, I doubt he would come cheap.

[AlphaBean]

Also, Jamal admitted to phoning last year in to stay healthy. He is only like 26 years old. Downside my ass. Granted, he was run into the ground, but he still has a good 3 years left in him. He won't get franchised, that's for certain, and he can make pretty good money because he's not horrible. He DOES hold the NFL record... and that will at least give him ONE productive season (see: Corey Dillon).

But yeah, there are so many athletic HBs who can't do it all, they can all get 1200 yards, but they can't pick up a blitzer (except Marion Barber, III. Maybe the Colts can trade for him), or catch the ball.

Go Edge! Hopefully he signs with MN. :love: I'd rather him than Shaun Alexander.

[VonErich Lives]

Yeah but now his mind has been expanded and he can see the lanes better :shifty:

Unmm, you know he meant the "other" rickey williams, not the one in Miami?

[VonErich Lives]

Also, Jamal admitted to phoning last year in to stay healthy. He is only like 26 years old. Downside my ass. Granted, he was run into the ground, but he still has a good 3 years left in him. He won't get franchised, that's for certain, and he can make pretty good money because he's not horrible. He DOES hold the NFL record... and that will at least give him ONE productive season (see: Corey Dillon).

But yeah, there are so many athletic HBs who can't do it all, they can all get 1200 yards, but they can't pick up a blitzer (except Marion Barber, III. Maybe the Colts can trade for him), or catch the ball.

Go Edge! Hopefully he signs with MN. :love: I'd rather him than Shaun Alexander.

Godo points, I don't know why I thought Lewis was older then that... but yeah, if he's 26 and can stay healthy then he still should have some good years left.

Dillon was banged up this year, we'll see what he has left next year... I can't remember if he has 1 or two years left on his contract. One thing I really like about him is he's great at picking up the Blitz, all the Pats RB's are... Given in the case of Kevin Faulk it's more of a "throw yourself at the guy and hope he trips" but that still give the QB an extra second.

[AlphaBean]

I've had this love/hate thing with the Pats for years. I loved the whole "underdog coming out on top" thing, rooted hardcore for them vs the Rams... and watching that game made me a big fan. Then, they came back and got another one two years after that, and I was like "hell yeah!" But... then they went and got Dillon, followed by drafting Vince Wilfork... I hated that. Like, I loved them, but I also really love Dillon and Wilfork... and the Vikings picked up Udeze instead of drafting Wilfork? WTF. Kevin Williams is a dominant DE. We didn't need another.

Anyway, I love it when a team is the "underdog," but when you have so much talent, I can't really with a clear conscience root for them to win anymore... so it's rough. Like, I respect the team, and believe it's one of the best of all time, but... it's too fashionable to be a Pats fan. I don't even like C-Dill that much anymore. I liked him back with his record-breaking days, when he was the LT of his time...

Oh and PS: WTF are you talking about, there are TWO Ricky Williamses?!?!? :eek:

[VonErich Lives]

I've had this love/hate thing with the Pats for years. I loved the whole "underdog coming out on top" thing, rooted hardcore for them vs the Rams... and watching that game made me a big fan. Then, they came back and got another one two years after that, and I was like "hell yeah!" But... then they went and got Dillon, followed by drafting Vince Wilfork... I hated that. Like, I loved them, but I also really love Dillon and Wilfork... and the Vikings picked up Udeze instead of drafting Wilfork? WTF. Kevin Williams is a dominant DE. We didn't need another.

Anyway, I love it when a team is the "underdog," but when you have so much talent, I can't really with a clear conscience root for them to win anymore... so it's rough. Like, I respect the team, and believe it's one of the best of all time, but... it's too fashionable to be a Pats fan. I don't even like C-Dill that much anymore. I liked him back with his record-breaking days, when he was the LT of his time...

Oh and PS: WTF are you talking about, there are TWO Ricky Williamses?!?!? :eek:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/303098

and yeah, I undertsand, it's like how everyone wanted Jordan to win one and when they kept going eveyone became a hater, or the Celtics because off all the championships..

It is amazing sometimes though, how the good get better, The Dillon trade, Drafting, signing Colvin...

They're waiting for the new CBA before the lock up Seymore long term, looks like they could be 10mil under the cap this off-season, will be interesting to see what they do. I figure Givens is done, simply because someone will give him #1 WR type money and the Pats wont.

[AlphaBean]

Thanks for the link. I was happy when I saw you knew I was being facetious earlier. But now I'm sad to see you didn't catch it the second time. :wavesad:

[VonErich Lives]

Thanks for the link. I was happy when I saw you knew I was being facetious earlier. But now I'm sad to see you didn't catch it the second time. :wavesad:

I assumed you were joking, but wasn't sure on Mr. MM so I figured I'd link.

Was actually tough to find since he didn't play last year, the NFL has his stats but not his name via an old link.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Ya well I haven't frequently watched NFL for like 3-4 years before this season in my defence :'(

[Jerichoholic]

Also, Jamal admitted to phoning last year in to stay healthy. He is only like 26 years old. Downside my ass. Granted, he was run into the ground, but he still has a good 3 years left in him. He won't get franchised, that's for certain, and he can make pretty good money because he's not horrible. He DOES hold the NFL record... and that will at least give him ONE productive season (see: Corey Dillon).

But yeah, there are so many athletic HBs who can't do it all, they can all get 1200 yards, but they can't pick up a blitzer (except Marion Barber, III. Maybe the Colts can trade for him), or catch the ball.

Go Edge! Hopefully he signs with MN. :love: I'd rather him than Shaun Alexander.

No way. Cowboys must keep Barber.

[RP]

http://http://cache.defamer.com/hollywood/big-ben-drinks.jpg

[RP]

Touche red x Touche

[BCWWF]

Based on most early mock drafts, it looks like the Vikings and the Colts are going to be choosing between Maroney and the guy from Memphis (name slips my mind.)

If both are available for the Vikes, I would be surprised if they passed on Maroney, just based on the hometown thing. Like when the Lynx wouldn't trade up and get Lindsey Whalen. Also, I don't think Maroney is the best fit for the Colts (ie he wouldn't look cool in their uniforms)

By the way, Marion Barbed III is a huge badass in the Cowboys uniforms. The cool part about him is that he is actually from Minnesota, not just some import from Ohio like the rest of the Gophers.

Another amusing tidbit, a guy from my high school signed with the Gophers last week and is probably Caputo's heir apparent. I was just scanning and looking through the Big 10 for other Minnesotans, and he was Minnesota's third best sign but on Ohio State he would have been one of the bottom five. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

[RP]

Do you wanna fuck these guys in their uniforms.

[BCWWF]

Actually, I think LenDale White might be the guy the Colts should go for

[RP]

LenDale White will be no where near the 32nd pick.

[RP]

If Lendale White fell to us i'd cum out of my butt.

[VonErich Lives]

If Lendale White fell to us i'd cum out of my butt.

Would it be your Cum or someone elses? (just trying to figure out how far you'd go to get White) :)

Also, I'm pretty sure the Colts pick #30.

I've seen a mock where they think Maroney could slip to Indy simply because not many teams will be looking for a RB in round #1.

I've also seen him predicted as high as #10 going to Arizona.

Ok, get this silly game over with and start the draft talk...

[D Mac]

If Lendale White fell to us i'd cum out of my butt.


Priest Holmes and a first round pick for Reggie Wayne and Dwight Freeney. Cmon.

[D Mac]

Derrick Thomas did'nt make the Hall of Fame. :(

[RP]

Freeney should have won defensive player of the year. I mean think about it. Teams all year long were using 2-3 men to block Dwight Freeney. It totally opened up our defense. Robert Mathis who is a situational pass rusher was one of the league leaders in sacks. Freeney was the most feared defender in the league by far. QB's and Offensive lines didnt know what was worse. Freeney exploding past his 1-2 blockers and steamrolling towards them or the other 2 defensive lineman who are steamrolling towards them because Freeney is being blocked by 3 blockers. Teams were showing new formations specifically designed for that game against the Colts to stop Freeney and he still got 11 sacks. I havent seen something like that in a while. And you know what they say " If not Freeney , Bob Sanders "

[D Mac]

So it's a done deal then.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol fitting that Stevens drops the last pass of the game while getting layed out by Joey Porter

[RP]

The Bus said he's retiring on Kimmels show.

[D Mac]

Right after he said it at the award presentation after the game.

[AlphaBean]

Derrick Thomas did'nt make the Hall of Fame. :(

Probably go...oh I can't do it.

[D Mac]

Trent Green had a good season, but Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer and Tom Brady beat him out in the Pro Bowl voting. But Brady pulled out, and Green was tabbed to make his second appearance in the NFL's all-star game. :y:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Think you forgot Plummer got in ahead of Green also.

[D Mac]

He is listed as "injured" on NFL.com

Carson Palmer, CIN (injured)
Trent Green, KC##
Tom Brady, NE (injured)
Jake Plummer (injured)
Steve McNair##

[D Mac]

http://www.nfl.com/probowl/afc_roster

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Doesn't change the fact he was 1st alternate and above Green.

Someone might think you were biased against Denver or something :shifty:

[VonErich Lives]

Brady's having Hernia surgery, apperently he had it half the season.

Kinda funny how no one new. Typically, Brady is always listed as questionable, it's always thought to be Belichecks little rib at the NFL inury listing system, they gave him crap a few years ago for not listing things, then (I forget who) we played this year, knew there starting QB was going to be out, but didn't list it, so the following week belicheck listed the whole team.

[AlphaBean]

Whole team? He's so the man.

[Gonzo]

I hate the Pro Bowl, meaningless game to be injured in.

[VonErich Lives]

Whole team? He's so the man.

yeah, although he's not the first, I think they tried to fine Shanahan a few years ago, so he responded by listing everyone as "questionable" if I remember correctly.

[FearedSanctity]

Think they tried to fine him for lying about Plummer's injury. Don't remember the listing everyone as questionable thing though, although it wouldn't surprise me if it happened

[VonErich Lives]

Think they tried to fine him for lying about Plummer's injury. Don't remember the listing everyone as questionable thing though, although it wouldn't surprise me if it happened

Wasn't plummer, was before him a "few years ago".

It's like the NFL selective bitches about it... they don't seem to always enforce it.

[Skippord]

yeah, although he's not the first, I think they tried to fine Shanahan a few years ago, so he responded by listing everyone as "questionable" if I remember correctly.
Shanahan Would pay them in quarters to piss them off

[D Mac]

:wtf: