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Destor
09-13-2005, 07:25 PM
And why? you smelly little douches

Jaton
09-13-2005, 07:34 PM
La Resistance. Them together is a coma-inducing snorefest to me.

Now, Conway by himself... :shifty:

Volchok
09-13-2005, 07:55 PM
Scotty 2 Hotty, Never liked him...

Destor
09-13-2005, 07:58 PM
Ya know I realy figured people would have jumped at the opportunity to bitch about wrestlers.....guess I was wrong.

zee deveel
09-13-2005, 08:02 PM
Hulk Hogan

I first started watching wrestling right when the NWO started. Being the mark that I was, I absolutely hated Hogan. Then when I started looking on the internet and lost my wrestling innocence I started to realize how shitte he really is.

redoneja
09-13-2005, 08:10 PM
Xavier, I dont know what it is about him but I just don't like him.

vampiro03
09-13-2005, 08:25 PM
Eugene and Mervin (mavin) because tards and wrasslin don't mix

Watson
09-13-2005, 08:30 PM
Triple H. Because he's a power-hungry, repetitive, self-mark who uses the company as his personal playground and if things don't go his way he throws a temper-tantrum. That description can used for Hulk Hogan too but he's actually contributed something to the business.

Joey Slugs
09-13-2005, 08:37 PM
Was never a fan of Doink....


maybe I'm just scared of clowns.

PepperCarrotMan
09-13-2005, 09:35 PM
Benoit. Boring midget.

vampiro03
09-13-2005, 09:37 PM
Benoit. Boring midget.

:rofl: :rofl: he does look like a big midget:rofl: little arms and all!

Destor
09-13-2005, 09:45 PM
That was just plain mean. :mad:

Favre4Ever
09-13-2005, 09:49 PM
Perry Saturn. Pre-Moppy that is.

::Waitress brings him plate of M&M's::

Saturn: "The blue ones are for fiber!"

I think he's tied with Bull Buchanan in the terrible wrestler category.

Destor
09-13-2005, 09:51 PM
Saturn was dynamite in the ring.

Funky Fly
09-13-2005, 11:04 PM
Refer to me as a smelly douche again and I will beat you to death with your own spine.

Also, Hardcore Holly. For obvious reasons.

Destor
09-13-2005, 11:23 PM
By posting in here the subliminal message will go into affect.

SuperSlim
09-13-2005, 11:26 PM
Hardcore Holly

Bad Company
09-13-2005, 11:51 PM
Bret Hart, wah wah wah wah.

Favre4Ever
09-13-2005, 11:54 PM
^haha

Kane Knight
09-13-2005, 11:57 PM
Shannon Moore. Women have no place in a man's sport.

Pepsi Man
09-14-2005, 01:10 AM
I'm not sure if it's Brock Lesnar or Bill Goldberg.

Goldberg I never really liked, all the way from his WCW days and couldn't put my finger on it other than the ridiculous push that I didn't think his wrestling warranted. But, I guess during that time, a guy with black trunks, black boots, a bald head, and a goatee was bound to get pretty over.

I only liked him less when he mentioned that he had no desire to wrestle, nor did he really have any respect for wrestling overall, but was just in it for the money. Say what you want about Hogan, Nash, Taker, hell, even Triple H, but when you've been at the top as long as those guys have, honestly, you can only make so much money and have so much before it's pointless to keep going if it's just for money. If it were all about the greenbacks, I really doubt we would've seen Hulk Hogan after WCW, and I really doubt we would've seen Kevin Nash show up in TNA. Anyway, sorry to go off on a tangent.

Lesnar, I really wasn't a fan of when he debuted, but his Hell in a Cell Match with Undertaker made me take note of him. I wasn't THRILLED, still, with his mega push (he beat like everyone in the span of four months, shy of Steve Austin, and that's only because Austin walked out on the company in order to avoid jobbing to him), but I had more respect for him.

Then he left the WWE with a lot less notice than someone like that should give, and what really gets me is his reported attitude after he left wrestling. Apparently, he wouldn't sign autographs on any wrestling merchandise anymore, because "that part of my life is over."

Frankly, even if that part of your life IS over (and clearly by now, he does not want it to be, because wrestling is all he'll have, it would appear.), you should still be respectful to the fans that bought tickets and merchandise and ordered Pay-Per-Views, funding the company you worked for, and giving you those millions and millions of dollars.

So yeah, I'm not sure who I dislike more out of those two, but neither of them are very high on my list of favorite wrestlers.

The One
09-14-2005, 01:42 AM
Hulk Hogan...

kinglacoste
09-14-2005, 01:48 AM
without hogan you guys wouldnt be wrestling fans at all

Destor
09-14-2005, 08:52 AM
I was a fan befor '84.

Tornado
09-14-2005, 09:22 AM
without hogan you guys wouldnt be wrestling fans at all
I started wtaching wrestling (WWF) around WM12, when Hogan wasn't a part of the WWF. It was guys like HBK, Bret Hart etc that got my into it, so your statement is wrong...

Cool King
09-14-2005, 09:31 AM
Goldberg.

JH
09-14-2005, 10:00 AM
Shannon Moore. Women have no place in a man's sport.

ROTFLMAO

The One
09-14-2005, 10:35 AM
without hogan you guys wouldnt be wrestling fans at all

Actually I have been a fan of wrestling since before Hogan was even in WWF (well...the second time I mean). Now if you were to say without Flair, then yes...cause actually I didn't even start watching WWF casually until after Hogan left. So your argument has absolutly no base behind it. Try again next week.

My answer remains, Hulk Hogan is my least favorite wrestler of all time.

Kane Knight
09-14-2005, 11:17 AM
without hogan you guys wouldnt be wrestling fans at all

Hmmm...I doubt that.

Schoenauer
09-14-2005, 11:23 AM
without hogan you guys wouldnt be wrestling fans at all

Without Hogan, the world just might have been a better place. Let's see... worst wrestler? Orlando Jordan for obvious reasons.

Pepsi Man
09-14-2005, 12:05 PM
Actually I have been a fan of wrestling since before Hogan was even in WWF (well...the second time I mean). Now if you were to say without Flair, then yes...cause actually I didn't even start watching WWF casually until after Hogan left. So your argument has absolutly no base behind it. Try again next week.

My answer remains, Hulk Hogan is my least favorite wrestler of all time.
You're saying you were a fan before Hogan beat the Iron Sheik for the title? If that's the case then you're fine, but...

everyone else talking about it fails to remember how much Hogan did for globalizing professional wrestling. Without Hogan, wrestling would still be a bunch of different regional territories with limited television time.

Destor
09-14-2005, 12:08 PM
I started watching when I was four, that was '81. So fuck Hogan. Hogan killed Pro-WRESTLING and he and Vince McMahon ushered in Sports Entertainment.

The One
09-14-2005, 12:10 PM
The first time Hogan was in WWF he was a heel with Blassie as his manager...I started watching wrestling around this time...however I was watching what every real fan was watching at the time, the NWA. Then Hogan was in AWA for a while, and no one gave a shit, he came back to WWF, was shoved down everyone's throat, and suddenly he is a great guy who changed the face of pro wrestling. I DON'T THINK SO. Vince McMahon changed wrestling. You want to credit the surge, credit Vince, who busted his balls to change how wrestling was promoted. I hate Hogan for taking credit for being "The guy" who made wrestling popular.

Pepsi Man
09-14-2005, 12:16 PM
The first time Hogan was in WWF he was a heel with Blassie as his manager...I started watching wrestling around this time...however I was watching what every real fan was watching at the time, the NWA. Then Hogan was in AWA for a while, and no one gave a shit, he came back to WWF, was shoved down everyone's throat, and suddenly he is a great guy who changed the face of pro wrestling. I DON'T THINK SO. Vince McMahon changed wrestling. You want to credit the surge, credit Vince, who busted his balls to change how wrestling was promoted. I hate Hogan for taking credit for being "The guy" who made wrestling popular.
I was just making sure that that's the "second time" you were talking about, as I had a pretty good idea it was.

Frankly, though, Hogan's the guy that went out there and sold the tickets. If the people hated him at the top that badly, then the WWF would've gone nowhere, and NWA would still be the dominant force in pro wrestling today, regardless of McMahon's work.

Vastardikai
09-14-2005, 12:17 PM
My earliest wrestling memories involve Hogan to an extent, but more along the lines of the Road Warriors. Those guys were the epitome of cool.

Least Favorite Wrestler? For me, it'll come as a surprise, but Sting. I LOATHE Sting. Back in the day my least favorite wrestlers were Sting and Great Muta. Later, I came to respect Muta. Sting, he just seemed more like a dork in the Surfer Era. I liked him briefly during the Crow-era, until he started Howling, then it was SSDD (Same Sting, Different Day). Sting did two things for me, though: Made me a Vader fan and Made me a Cactus Jack fan. He didn't make me a Jake fan, because I was a Jake fan to begin with.

Vastardikai
09-14-2005, 12:24 PM
I was just making sure that that's the "second time" you were talking about, as I had a pretty good idea it was.

Frankly, though, Hogan's the guy that went out there and sold the tickets. If the people hated him at the top that badly, then the WWF would've gone nowhere, and NWA would still be the dominant force in pro wrestling today, regardless of McMahon's work.

There's two people you could have possibly put that mantle on, if they had stayed clean: Jimmy Snuka (Watch the Cage Match with Backlund, he was a heel in the match until he climbed the ropes, then the fans went crazy for him) and Junkyard Dog (The guy was mad over down South, comparable to Hogan level of fame). I'd almost argue that, if a couple of years later, when Jake came in and DDT'd Ricky Steamboat, Jake could have carried WWF to an Attitude era a decade before it actually happened. There's also a possible "What if Magnum TA went to WWF?" He could have been bigger than Hogan, but we'll never know, mainly because of the car crash.

Destor
09-14-2005, 12:29 PM
TA would at least been NWA champ.

Kane Knight
09-14-2005, 12:31 PM
You're saying you were a fan before Hogan beat the Iron Sheik for the title? If that's the case then you're fine, but...

everyone else talking about it fails to remember how much Hogan did for globalizing professional wrestling. Without Hogan, wrestling would still be a bunch of different regional territories with limited television time.

You're assuming that without Hogan, the business would remain completely static. That would be great, if only Hogan was behind Hogan's success, and no other changes would have happened in the WWE. However, that's assuming a HUGE amount of factors go EXACTLY the way they would need to go to conveniently remain the same way.

It's like saying without Bill Gates, there would be no PC. OR, a more comical one, without Gore, there would be no internet.

Pepsi Man
09-14-2005, 12:37 PM
You're assuming that without Hogan, the business would remain completely static. That would be great, if only Hogan was behind Hogan's success, and no other changes would have happened in the WWE. However, that's assuming a HUGE amount of factors go EXACTLY the way they would need to go to conveniently remain the same way.

It's like saying without Bill Gates, there would be no PC. OR, a more comical one, without Gore, there would be no internet.
Actually, I WILL say that operating systems (and probably many other applications as well) wouldn't be what they are today without Mr. Gates.

Kane Knight
09-14-2005, 12:49 PM
Actually, I WILL say that operating systems (and probably many other applications as well) wouldn't be what they are today without Mr. Gates.

First off, OS=/=PC.

Second, Windows was a castoff OS purchased by Microsoft. All it would have taken was another investor. Without Microsoft, Apple would not have been so obssesed with proprietary software, and would not be capable of running only 15% of the programs.

Yes, the OS would have changed, but the PC would still be around in all likelihood.

Pepsi Man
09-14-2005, 12:56 PM
First off, OS=/=PC.

Second, Windows was a castoff OS purchased by Microsoft. All it would have taken was another investor. Without Microsoft, Apple would not have been so obssesed with proprietary software, and would not be capable of running only 15% of the programs.

Yes, the OS would have changed, but the PC would still be around in all likelihood.
I'm not saying there wouldn't be PCs, because computers had already been made as small as those used in many homes today.

Destor
09-14-2005, 01:01 PM
then what are you saying, I think it was HOGAN SUX, how the fuck did we get here?

My Final Heaven
09-14-2005, 01:06 PM
Big Bully Busick. C'mon, he was an 1890's-style villian, & his finisher was a punch. You don't get much wackier than that. I remember Sid destroyed him on WWF superstars, & it's the only time I can remember that I was cheering Sid. :rofl:

<img src="http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/n/nickbusick/10.jpg" height=200 width=240>

Vastardikai
09-14-2005, 01:18 PM
In the Indy's he'd get some heat by fans who chanted "Mario" at him...

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/n/nickbusick/10.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005UK88.02.LZZZZZZZ

DarkAngel
09-14-2005, 02:02 PM
Shannon Moore. Women have no place in a man's sport.

:rofl:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kane Knight again.

Kane Knight
09-14-2005, 03:27 PM
I'm not saying there wouldn't be PCs, because computers had already been made as small as those used in many homes today.

Yeah, but that's the point. You tried to turn my analogy into a different, less apt one. Even then, you were wrong as without Microsoft, there would have been a standard OS. The only way Gates beat others was by offering it to people. Essentially giving it away. Had Gates not been around we would have simply adopted one of the other viable contenders.

AJHayes
09-14-2005, 06:50 PM
Chris Masters. I just plain hate the guy.

Other than that, Bastion Booger (aka. Mike Shaw) He's a dick and his wife is pretty bitchy too.

Bad Company
09-14-2005, 09:07 PM
Gates' OS was just IBMs Dirty work anyway.

Yashamaga
09-14-2005, 09:25 PM
Probably Jeff Jarrett

He's boring as shit, not over, and he thinks he is. He's trying to build a legacy out of himself but he can't see that if he is on top of ANY federation - IT WILL NOT SUCCEED.

He sucks and he needs to realize it.

Kane Knight
09-14-2005, 09:39 PM
Probably Jeff Jarrett

He's boring as shit, not over, and he thinks he is. He's trying to build a legacy out of himself but he can't see that if he is on top of ANY federation - IT WILL NOT SUCCEED.

He sucks and he needs to realize it.

You know, I think I'll say that as well.

He's worse than Triple H, for all the bitching about him, and Masters? He'll be gone before Jarrett.

Pepsi Man
09-14-2005, 11:48 PM
Yeah, but that's the point. You tried to turn my analogy into a different, less apt one. Even then, you were wrong as without Microsoft, there would have been a standard OS. The only way Gates beat others was by offering it to people. Essentially giving it away. Had Gates not been around we would have simply adopted one of the other viable contenders.
That doesn't make it wrong. That doesn't mean operating systems would be like they are today. Bill Gates's claim to fame never was that he invented the PC in the first place (nor did he truly invent the operating system, obviously), but Bill Gates has made operating systems and using GUI wat it is today. It's not as inapt an analogy as you make it out to be.

Without Hulk Hogan, wrestling would still be regional promotions, and without Bill Gates, we'd probably be using a dos-like program, IF computers ever became as popular as they are today in the first place.

Loose Cannon
09-15-2005, 09:50 AM
Both Bushwackers. I hated them.

Kane Knight
09-15-2005, 10:23 AM
That doesn't make it wrong.

Yes it does.

It also means you've missed the point again. I already explained it.

The Fitz
09-15-2005, 11:04 AM
Dusty Rhodes, I just can't stand him.

Londoner
09-15-2005, 11:45 AM
I have to say Jeff Jarrett.He hasn't had one meaningful match as far as I know, and doesn't deserve to be as high up on the ladder as he is.

Pepsi Man
09-15-2005, 01:24 PM
I have to say Jeff Jarrett.He hasn't had one meaningful match as far as I know, and doesn't deserve to be as high up on the ladder as he is.
I liked his feud with Razor Ramon in early 1995. :o

Londoner
09-15-2005, 01:27 PM
I wasn't a wrestling fan back then!But his matches(or feuds) never get talked about like Austin/rock, hbk/bret ..etc, is what i meant.

McLegend
09-15-2005, 03:50 PM
Not too many feuds do.

LK
09-15-2005, 03:56 PM
Chris Masters. I also despise Chris Sabin.

The One
09-15-2005, 04:05 PM
That doesn't make it wrong. That doesn't mean operating systems would be like they are today. Bill Gates's claim to fame never was that he invented the PC in the first place (nor did he truly invent the operating system, obviously), but Bill Gates has made operating systems and using GUI wat it is today. It's not as inapt an analogy as you make it out to be.

Without Hulk Hogan, wrestling would still be regional promotions, and without Bill Gates, we'd probably be using a dos-like program, IF computers ever became as popular as they are today in the first place.

I don't know shit about computers...so I will stay out of that part, though it has always been my assumption (could be wrong) that it was how Gates marketed Windows and what not that made him the big dollars...

Vince McMahon's marketing of Hulk Hogan IS what made money. It was Vince's idea to bring all these regional stars together to create one big super promotion. It was Vince McMahon who hand picked Hulk Hogan to be the flagship. It was Vince McMahon who promoted the events. And it was Vince McMahon who put the money up to make sure that guys across America (and alot of the World to...another innovative McMahon idea) would do the honors for Hogan. Don't make any mistake about it, McMahon could have done it with a guy like Roberts, could have done it with a guy like Savage...Hogan had just come off of doing a movie, so McMahon chose Hogan...but I have said this before and I will say it again, he could have done it with any Muscle Man.

Nark Order
09-15-2005, 04:39 PM
Sean Waltman.

Always hated him from the second I saw him.

Gertner
09-15-2005, 05:29 PM
It used to be Test, now it's Triple H

Chavo Classic
09-15-2005, 05:37 PM
At the moment, I'd like to stress how much I dislike John Cena and Batista. As champions they are doing very little to raise the profile of the WWE in my eyes. These two wouldn't get near the title in the glory days of Austin, Rock and Foley. However, we've all got to move on and accept that peak probably wont ever be repeated.

So instead, I'll classify my vote for least favourite wrestler not in terms of who pisses me off, but those who get my complete apathy. These guys might not take anything away from wrestling, but they certainly dont add anything. At least with Cena and Batista they were at least of the the following three - entertaining at one point in the last year, have been in quality feuds, can catch my attention when drunk (when I'm drunk, not them)

So, back from my tangent and onto the topic, my votes are for and done in a clever little champions of champions (of losers) way-

Heavyweight champion - Mark Henry

IC champion - Dennis Knight/Mideon

Tag champions - Crash and Hardcore

Womens champion - Gail Kim

Cruiserweight- XPac

The above all suck(ed)

Kane Knight
09-15-2005, 05:42 PM
I don't know shit about computers...so I will stay out of that part, though it has always been my assumption (could be wrong) that it was how Gates marketed Windows and what not that made him the big dollars...

Vince McMahon's marketing of Hulk Hogan IS what made money. It was Vince's idea to bring all these regional stars together to create one big super promotion. It was Vince McMahon who hand picked Hulk Hogan to be the flagship. It was Vince McMahon who promoted the events. And it was Vince McMahon who put the money up to make sure that guys across America (and alot of the World to...another innovative McMahon idea) would do the honors for Hogan. Don't make any mistake about it, McMahon could have done it with a guy like Roberts, could have done it with a guy like Savage...Hogan had just come off of doing a movie, so McMahon chose Hogan...but I have said this before and I will say it again, he could have done it with any Muscle Man.

*heart attack*

Someone...Got it!

ilt_undertaker
09-15-2005, 05:43 PM
I dont think I have an all time least favorite, but right now I really dislike John Cena.

Kane Knight
09-15-2005, 05:57 PM
The problem is that it's hard to stack up today's worst gimmicks/characters with the past worst gimmicks/characters. There was some sheer crap, but my viewing career goes back into the 80s, meaning there's the 80s, 90s, and this decade. If something stuck out from the 80s, and stuck with me to this day, it's gonna look worse than the most horrible gimmick from today. IT's that test of time thing.

vampiro03
09-15-2005, 07:07 PM
The problem is that it's hard to stack up today's worst gimmicks/characters with the past worst gimmicks/characters. There was some sheer crap, but my viewing career goes back into the 80s, meaning there's the 80s, 90s, and this decade. If something stuck out from the 80s, and stuck with me to this day, it's gonna look worse than the most horrible gimmick from today. IT's that test of time thing.

http://tinypic.com/dpbx5l.jpg
nuff said

Pepsi Man
09-15-2005, 09:36 PM
I don't know shit about computers...so I will stay out of that part, though it has always been my assumption (could be wrong) that it was how Gates marketed Windows and what not that made him the big dollars...

Vince McMahon's marketing of Hulk Hogan IS what made money. It was Vince's idea to bring all these regional stars together to create one big super promotion. It was Vince McMahon who hand picked Hulk Hogan to be the flagship. It was Vince McMahon who promoted the events. And it was Vince McMahon who put the money up to make sure that guys across America (and alot of the World to...another innovative McMahon idea) would do the honors for Hogan. Don't make any mistake about it, McMahon could have done it with a guy like Roberts, could have done it with a guy like Savage...Hogan had just come off of doing a movie, so McMahon chose Hogan...but I have said this before and I will say it again, he could have done it with any Muscle Man.
It was Hulk Hogan that went out there and did it. It's the "in" thing to insult the guys that step between the ropes and act as though they're all just buffoons that have nothing at all to do with their own success, but the truth is that Hogan was special.

Skippord
09-16-2005, 12:51 AM
Triple H. Because he's a power-hungry, repetitive, self-mark who uses the company as his personal playground and if things don't go his way he throws a temper-tantrum. That description can used for Hulk Hogan too but he's actually contributed something to the business.

Replace HHH and Jeff Jerret and you got it

.44 Magdalene
09-16-2005, 02:39 AM
The Demon.

You know...that KISS guy.

The One
09-16-2005, 12:14 PM
It was Hulk Hogan that went out there and did it. It's the "in" thing to insult the guys that step between the ropes and act as though they're all just buffoons that have nothing at all to do with their own success, but the truth is that Hogan was special.

I don't know what else to say...but simply no. Terry Bollea is a charismatic man. Yes he is the one who went out into the ring and performed, but this is an industry of promotion. It was Vince McMahon who made Hogan a star. It was Vince McMahon who made Austin a star. Any other WWE made Superstar was Vince McMahon's doing. Did Hogan go into the ring and made it happen? Yes. But without Vince McMahon, his vision of what professional wrestling could be, Hogan would have been just another terratory guy.

This is just something I have noticed about alot of people on these boards. You may have read what terratory wrestling was like, you may know what a big deal WrestleMania was, etc. etc. etc., But I think one of the biggest problem of people here is that they wern't fans of it back then. Ask ANY Wrestling History who made Hulkamania, and the answer will be Vince McMahon. Do you realise that McMahon Sr. has said that if he knew what Vincent K. was going to do with WWWF he wouldn't have sold it to him. It was McMahon who went through, raided all the big stars of all the promotions across America, and then created one company. Try to get this image. Back in 1999 Steve Austin was the hottest thing going, now think about if there were 30 to 40 WWFs running around, each one with their own Steve Austin, No here comes some Big Shot, offers each Steve Austin $X,XXX,XXX plus bonus. Now you have one company with 40 Steve Austin's...and then here comes Funaki, and this Big Shot pays all the Steve Austins of the world to lay down and do the 1-2-3 for Funaki. Does that mean that Funaki didn't go out there and wrestle? No. But Funaki probably didn't deserve to have all of the most over people in the world lay down for him. And that is what happened to Hogan. He beat all the greatest guys there were, and when someone goes around and beats everyone people either start chanting Goldberg, or they call them Hogan...

Now then, please tell me once more how it is that Wrestling was brought to the mainstream by Hogan, because I love to hear about how if it wern't for an overhyped, piss poor in ring performer, with mild mic skills, and some charisma guy we wouldn't have what we have now...

blueskies
09-16-2005, 12:36 PM
ken shamrock.. hated his world most dangerous man gimmick

Pepsi Man
09-16-2005, 01:17 PM
I don't know what else to say...but simply no. Terry Bollea is a charismatic man. Yes he is the one who went out into the ring and performed, but this is an industry of promotion. It was Vince McMahon who made Hogan a star. It was Vince McMahon who made Austin a star. Any other WWE made Superstar was Vince McMahon's doing. Did Hogan go into the ring and made it happen? Yes. But without Vince McMahon, his vision of what professional wrestling could be, Hogan would have been just another terratory guy.

This is just something I have noticed about alot of people on these boards. You may have read what terratory wrestling was like, you may know what a big deal WrestleMania was, etc. etc. etc., But I think one of the biggest problem of people here is that they wern't fans of it back then. Ask ANY Wrestling History who made Hulkamania, and the answer will be Vince McMahon. Do you realise that McMahon Sr. has said that if he knew what Vincent K. was going to do with WWWF he wouldn't have sold it to him. It was McMahon who went through, raided all the big stars of all the promotions across America, and then created one company. Try to get this image. Back in 1999 Steve Austin was the hottest thing going, now think about if there were 30 to 40 WWFs running around, each one with their own Steve Austin, No here comes some Big Shot, offers each Steve Austin $X,XXX,XXX plus bonus. Now you have one company with 40 Steve Austin's...and then here comes Funaki, and this Big Shot pays all the Steve Austins of the world to lay down and do the 1-2-3 for Funaki. Does that mean that Funaki didn't go out there and wrestle? No. But Funaki probably didn't deserve to have all of the most over people in the world lay down for him. And that is what happened to Hogan. He beat all the greatest guys there were, and when someone goes around and beats everyone people either start chanting Goldberg, or they call them Hogan...

Now then, please tell me once more how it is that Wrestling was brought to the mainstream by Hogan, because I love to hear about how if it wern't for an overhyped, piss poor in ring performer, with mild mic skills, and some charisma guy we wouldn't have what we have now...
I don't know what else to say...but simply no. Many wrestling historians, fans and insiders alike from back then, whether they like Hogan or hate him, will admit to you that he put pro wrestling on the map. You didn't have 40 Stone Cold Steve Austins. Hell, if you want to equate them with someone back from 1999, they were like Godfathers at best. Hell, maybe Jarretts, but even that would almsot be pushing it. Then you had a guy with the charisma to bring people to the show.

Vince McMahon could've promoted the fuck out of whatever he wanted to, but if it weren't for Hogan putting asses in the seats, all that work would've meant fuck all, and Vince's WWF would've gone belly-up. Do you realize how close Vince McMahon was to folding back then? Back then, he put everything he had into pretty much one basket, and if Hulk Hogan had failed, Vince would've been fucked. Hulk Hogan wasn't some name pulled out of a hat.

Hulk showed what he had to offer in Japan and also as you mentioned, had just come off that movie filming. As much as you and some Hogan critics would like to think so, you could NOT just [insert random guy here] and have him be as big as Hogan. We've seen Savage at the top. We've seen guys beat Hogan cleanly. No one has been able to duplicate what Hogan did. For everyone since Hogan, the road's already been paved.

The only guy you could tell me could carry the WWF like Hogan did would be Ric Flair, but Flair always worked better as a heel, and apparently, the WWF decided they needed an over-the-top face for this all to work.

Raven
09-16-2005, 03:36 PM
Masters he is a dumbass

The One
09-16-2005, 04:02 PM
Whoa...how is it that we now have a second Raven? This is going to be weird...here's hoping that you are as good as Ray (the first one I guess)

The MAC
09-16-2005, 04:33 PM
Rick Flair - stupid useless pathetic old man. Nothing really execeptional other than the fact that he hads been wrestlign so long that he earned a lot of titles.
Boring as hell to watch. that double Axe handle off the top rope and his face bump is shit.

Just John
09-16-2005, 04:57 PM
No one, I dont hate a single person Im just not that sort of person.

Skippord
09-16-2005, 05:54 PM
Rick Flair - stupid useless pathetic old man. Nothing really execeptional other than the fact that he hads been wrestlign so long that he earned a lot of titles.
Boring as hell to watch. that double Axe handle off the top rope and his face bump is shit.

*E-slap*

Nark Order
09-16-2005, 06:05 PM
Wow. Flair does not come to mind when I think 'worst'...

G-wrath
09-16-2005, 06:23 PM
Hogan, like Matt Hardy, HE WILL NOT DIE!

Just John
09-17-2005, 03:02 PM
and when he does he'll have orange bones

Aussie Skier
09-18-2005, 09:29 PM
The first time Hogan was in WWF he was a heel with Blassie as his manager...I started watching wrestling around this time...however I was watching what every real fan was watching at the time, the NWA. Then Hogan was in AWA for a while, and no one gave a shit, he came back to WWF, was shoved down everyone's throat, and suddenly he is a great guy who changed the face of pro wrestling. I DON'T THINK SO. Vince McMahon changed wrestling. You want to credit the surge, credit Vince, who busted his balls to change how wrestling was promoted. I hate Hogan for taking credit for being "The guy" who made wrestling popular.

have you should watch the 2005 hall of fame ceremony?

because there, Hogan credits McMahon for making this business

Aussie Skier
09-18-2005, 09:39 PM
Bossman - I never really got into the whole Big Boss Man thing, I spose he was ok early in his career, but his late 90's run with the WWF was average IMO...still, nonetheless, RIP

Mark Henry - just big...no other redeeming facets to him (altho sexual chocholate gimmick was ok)

Lita - I've really grown to dislike her lately.

Jeff Hardy - ditto

Tyson Tomko - doesn't impress me @ all

Kane Knight
09-18-2005, 09:43 PM
Wow. Flair does not come to mind when I think 'worst'...

Worst. Crossdresser. Ever. ;)

Aussie Skier
09-19-2005, 12:37 AM
Bossman - I never really got into the whole Big Boss Man thing, I spose he was ok early in his career, but his late 90's run with the WWF was average IMO...still, nonetheless, RIP

Mark Henry - just big...no other redeeming facets to him (altho sexual chocholate gimmick was ok)

Lita - I've really grown to dislike her lately.

Jeff Hardy - ditto

Tyson Tomko - doesn't impress me @ all

i should also add to this list, the group of late 80's, early 90's wrestlers who
had no skill...e.g, The barbarian, the berserker etc...

HeartBreakMan2k
09-19-2005, 01:02 AM
Whoa...how is it that we now have a second Raven? This is going to be weird...here's hoping that you are as good as Ray (the first one I guess)

He's no where near as good from everything I've seen. God I miss the old Raven. Among other oldbies.

Anyway, my answer is Hulk Hogan. I would say why but The One has said absolutely everything. Hogan is his own biggest fan, he seems to think that without him we would be lost. Fuck him, without Hogan, anyone could have stepped up. Savage could have been the lead guy, and Hogan could have been his second. Fact is Vince was incredible at marketing and he could have put anyone in Hogan's shoes.

HeartBreakMan2k
09-19-2005, 01:04 AM
Oh and whoever it was who mentioned Magnum TA and how big he could have been, thank you. I'm a huge mark for TA and I do think had it not been for the car crash he would have been bigger than Hogan.

The Gooch
09-19-2005, 12:35 PM
Male: 1-2-3 Kid/X-pac. I've never liked Waltman. I hated his look. I hated the fact he always got the pin in his tag matches which probably related to his stroke back stage. The "bronco buster" has to be one of the lamest moves ever. X-pac heat exists for a reason.

Female: Chyna. Her voice and acting was terrible. She was co-IC Champ which killed the belts credibility. When she was a bodyguard and didn't speak she was OK. Too bad it didn't last.

Too funny that they ended up dating.

Pepsi Man
09-19-2005, 12:40 PM
Male: 1-2-3 Kid/X-pac. I've never liked Waltman. I hated his look. I hated the fact he always got the pin in his tag matches which probably related to his stroke back stage. The "bronco buster" has to be one of the lamest moves ever. X-pac heat exists for a reason.

Female: Chyna. Her voice and acting was terrible. She was co-IC Champ which killed the belts credibility. When she was a bodyguard and didn't speak she was OK. Too bad it didn't last.

Too funny that they ended up dating.
Hell, son, TWICE, she was THE Intercontinental Champion.