TNA Impact

[Destor]

The show is tonight. Is anyone planning on watching it? I'm pretty fired up about myself, I'm hoping for a good show.

[Jaton]

f'sho. I'm going to make a topic about it, maybe. Depending on if the board is even active at that time.

[The One]

I think every single person on the forum should be watching it. Let's face it, everyone has at one point or another bitched that there is only WWE and no challenge, well TNA is as close to a challenge that it gets. So with that, sit down and spend only one hour today juding you you have found an alternative to WWE. Just fucking DO IT!

[Thriller]

My brother has a concert tonight so ill be at that instead but im definatally gonna tape it

[Destor]

f'sho. I'm going to make a topic about it, maybe. Depending on if the board is even active at that time.
My thread not good enough? :wtf:

[Xero]

Yeah, I'll watch it, as well as record it. I hope that the show is good.

For anyone who has read the spoilers, does it sound like it's going to be good? (Don't spoil it, obviously.)

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I have to leave for work around 11:30ish. Probably watch a bit and tape it.

[Jaton]

Sorry. Glass ceiling'd. :)

[Destor]

Giving the shaft to one of your own. :nono:

[JH]

i read the tapings and it does look real good including a surprise ending

[Jaton]

Hah. I'll just skip on making one then.

[Loose Cannon]

My friend wanted me to come to a party with him, but I said fuck that I'm watching TNA Impact :cool:

[Jaton]

That's the spirit. Who needs partying and socializing? You have us, and TNA Impact!.

[Loose Cannon]

actually, I didn't say I'm watching TNA Impact, I kind of just said I didn't feel like going :o

[Jaton]

Cheater. :nono::foc::rant:

[The One]

http://www.tnawrestling.com/impact/images/logosb.gif

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<font color="white" size="2" face="Comic Sans Ms"> Welcome to the Forum Horsemen's Official TNA on Spike TV Thread. Tonight, on October the first in the year 2005 the wrestling industry changes once again as TNA becomes the 4th Wrestling Promotion to be given a solid time slot on a National Network. WCW and ECW lay in the war path of the unstopable giant WWE, but tonight TNA challenges that crown! In the very first match we will see the face of TNA, the only Triple Crown Champion in the history of the company, and current X Champ "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles take on Independent Wrestling icon Roderick Strong in the show case match style of TNA, the awe inspiring X Division. The form of wrestling that lives on with no limits.

In the fallowing match we will see another incredible display of the X-Division as former Super X Cup and X-Division Champion Chris Sabin takes on the leader of Team Canada and the holder of the previous longest reign in X Title history, the master of The Canadian Destroyer, Petey Williams, and then in the third corner we will see one of TNA’s most unorthodox fighters Alex Shelly!

And then, the video package of one of the most controversial transactions in TNA’s history as former fan favorite, and Tag Team main stay America’s Most Wanted help the face of evil in the eyes of TNA fans, The King Of The Mountain Jeff Jarrett steal the NWA World Heavyweight Title, the very same championship held by legends like Harley Race, Ric Flair, and Ricky Steamboat, from the smartest student of Pro Wrestling Raven.

And then, in the main event, former ECW World Heavyweight Champion The Man Beast Rhino will attempt to destroy The Charismatic Enigma and Shadow endorsed Jeff Hardy. Both men have been, in different circles, been considered two of the most extreme wrestlers in the history of this business. Will the Swanton be able to take down Rhino or will Hardy receive the GORE! GORE! GORE!

http://www.tnawrestling.com/previews/gallery/lg/hardy_rhino.jpg

Be sure to tune in to see the new face of wrestling, TONIGHT, at eleven o’clock eastern time.
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[Destor]

Thats pretty slick. I think I'm more pumped after reading all that.

[Splaya]

My friend wanted me to come to a party with him, but I said fuck that I'm watching TNA Impact :cool:


:love:

[JH]

the one should change his name after that to THE MAN

dude i got hyped just reading that

[Shadow]

Guess I'm taping Inuyasha and FMA tonight.

IMPACT BABY!

[Lux]

DAMN i'm def. staying home to watch it man cause of the great action and Jeff Hardy!

[Jinx Chaos]

That's great 4.0

[Jinx Chaos]

sarcastically though

[Lux]

thank you amgio

[Lux]

Jinx head to my thread man in casual

[TerranRich]

I'm just so glad TNA isn't becoming WCW, depending on old washed-up talent to get itself over (Nash, et al). I honestly don't consider Jarrett to be old and washed up...yet. I'm definintely watching iMPACT! tonight.

[The One]

TerranRich...for as much as they do like to lean on the older guys to get the Heavyweight division over...but they also equally promote the X-Division, and to an extent they promote the Tag division as well...and the Tag and X are made up totally of younger guys who have great futures. TNA is being very smart with 2 out of 3 of their styles.

[TerranRich]

I agree, The One, and that's why I like TNA right now. I just hope they don't screw up their direction.

[The One]

I thought you were making a joke...about the whole Nash thing...yeah you know what pretend I don't say anything anymore. :p

[Djscorpion]

My friend wanted me to come to a party with him, but I said fuck that I'm watching TNA Impact :cool:

WOW WHAT A LOSER ! i can understand if u did that for RAW Homecoming but TNA IMPACT! ?

[Loose Cannon]

DJscorpion
Posts: 30
Rep: DJscorpion ought to think about moving to Nebraska
Alias: Heel
Other Names: TWMangrove, The Lone Drinker, Shisen Kopf, Jindrack, Kris P Kreame, kinglacoste,

[Xero]

DJscorpion
Posts: 30
Rep: DJscorpion ought to think about moving to Nebraska
Alias: Heel
Other Names pulled from IP Check: TWMangrove, The Lone Drinker, Shisen Kopf, Jindrack, Kris P Kreame, kinglacoste,
Wow, what a suprise. Well, at least there are less idiot-assholes in this world than we originally thought.

[Lux]

who would have thought he would have so much time to make them all

[Schoenauer]

Are we going to see any dammit Jeff moments?

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I'll probably watch the first 30 minutes, but the season premiere of SNL is on. Just as well, I'll see Styles vs Strong, and maybe the triple threat, which is really all I care about anyway.

[JH]

this dumbass jinx chaos neg repped me for saying i got hyped readin the one's post

get a damn life dude

[Jaton]

I doubt his neg rep affects you anyway.

[Lux]

yo this is about TNA not Jinx Chaos guys plus lighten up he's like new around here. we were all new here at one time.

[Jaton]

Wow. TNA has a different feel on Spike. The camera is different or something.

Maybe I'm not used to seeing ti without the gay ticker from FSN..maybe.

[6to1]

they have a full house, even thw black dude that was at every fsn show is there.

[Boondock Saint]

TNAAAAAA

[Shadow]

............

HOLY SHIT!

[McLegend]

That opening video package was Fucking Amazing.

Also I love AJ

[The Greater Power]

Solid match there!

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

did you hear Tenay mention the six sided ring two or three different times in that first match, saying the exact same thing each time?

[Jaton]

Yes, he kept getting interrupted and never said what his point was. lol

[Shadow]

did you hear Tenay mention the six sided ring two or three different times in that first match, saying the exact same thing each time?

Its what he's good at man. That's all.

So I take it we're going to do a TNA Impact Thread every saturday?

[Savio]

OMG it mike teney!

[The Greater Power]

Don West is a fucking idiot.

[Jaton]

Even if I have to do it, Shadow. Yes.

[Shadow]

..............

that's how he says that? OMG......someone shoot this guy...now!

[Jaton]

So is Monty a face or not now?

[The Greater Power]

lol @ Monty.

[Shadow]

This is a...Monty Brown promo?

I'm confused. Oh never mind...it's just Raven.

[Jaton]

Has anyone else put thought into the fact that the Serengeti is a region in Africa?

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

haha, he just did a line off of the top rope

[Savio]

Sholder block!

[Jaton]

He's always done lines off the top rope. He also shits out pyro on the ramp.

[McLegend]

I don't care what anyone else says

I Like Monty Brown and the POUNCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

[Shadow]

The Pounce is the easiest finisher to sell...that's why everyone sells it like death. Fuck, I don't think the Rock could sell it more.

[6to1]

all these matches are fast paced i wish spike would give them a 2nd hour so they can wrestle longer.

[Boondock Saint]

PERIOD.

[Shadow]

I really do love the X-Division. It's sooooo superior to the WWE's CW division...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Jaton]

The Pounce is the easiest finisher to sell...that's why everyone sells it like death. Fuck, I don't think the Rock could sell it more.

I'd say Venis could.

[Jaton]

Why isn't Jeff Hardy in the X-Division? He really fucking needs to be. He has no direction right now.

[Boondock Saint]

HAIL SABIN!

[Jaton]

Shelley rocks so hard. He made me like a Shocker match.

[loopydate]

Chris. Fucking. Sabin is in the ring right now.

My night has been made.

Oh, and... Good show so far.

[The Greater Power]

No Daniels wrestling..........:(

[Jaton]

That guard rail is WAY too fucking close. Looks like Sabin just broke his legs doing that moonsault.

[Jaton]

I love how split the crowds are.

"let's go petey"
"let's go sabin!"

[Jaton]

The AJ/Fallen Angel chants are better though.

"Let's go AJ...Fallen Angel!"

[The Greater Power]

CANADIAN DESTROYER!!!

[Jaton]

-holy shit- moment for all of you who haven't seen the canadian destroyer.

[McLegend]

I loved that 3 way.

[loopydate]

I guarantee that on the next SmackDown, there will be a cruiser match, with Cole talking about how you can only see that kind of action on Friday nights. And then we won't see another cruiser match on that show until after Survivor Series.

[The Greater Power]

The action is so fast that there is no time to sell a move.

[Savio]

OMG JEFFFFFFF :drool:"

[6to1]

the man beast

[Jaton]

What kind of loser sings their own lyrics to their theme music coming down the isle?


Don't murder me, Shadow.

[Jaton]

I guarantee that on the next SmackDown, there will be a cruiser match, with Cole talking about how you can only see that kind of action on Friday nights. And then we won't see another cruiser match on that show until after Armageddon.


Fixed. SS will have too many interpromotional matches to be bothered with cruisers.

[Shadow]

.............

OM MY FUCKING GOD IT'S SOO DAMN GOOD TO SEE THAT MULTIHAIRED MORON AGAIN!

[Shadow]

What kind of loser sings their own lyrics to their theme music coming down the isle?


Don't murder me, Shadow.

I'm not gonna murder you...

I'm going to tear your skin off and dip you in a vat of simmering oil.

[The Answer]

Oh crap I totally forgot about this can someone give me a quick recap of what happened before the Hardy/Rhyno match

[The Greater Power]

AJ Styles beat Roderick Strong in like 5 mins.

Sabin beat Shelley and PEtey Williams in a short but fun and innovative triple threat.

[Shadow]

SHHHHHHHH!

GORE! GORE! GORE!

He gored the damn turnbuckle...

And I guess it's time we went up top....

Who the fuck is that guy with Abyss?

[Jaton]

lol at Hardy being booed.

[Jaton]

SABU!!!!!!!!!


-marks the fuck out-

[Shadow]

THAT'S SABU!?

OMG that man is insane!

[The Greater Power]

LMAO @ Locked in a room w/o food or water for 24 hours match.

I know, I know, it's called Monster's Ball or something, but that is a terrible gimmick.

[Jaton]

I can only imagine him trying to make his way to the ring when the lights go out.

I'd love for the lights to go out, and then they come back on he's laying in the aisle because his dumb genocidal ass tripped.

[Shadow]

And when I say insane, I don't mean he's insane in move set...he's insane in looks. Damn...

[Savio]

Teney i don't know what happens when the lights go out in TNA

[McLegend]

I haven't seen Sabu in years. He looks so old

[Shadow]

....I really was hoping that I wouldn't have to see this idiot tonight. Damn.

[The Greater Power]

AMW is so fucking awesome.

[6to1]

i hope next week we get less ads

[Jaton]

What makes them awesome? Selling out to Jeff Jarrett like so many guys before them?

[The Greater Power]

Like their look and gimmick.

And they are good athletes too.

[The Answer]

Monday's show is a repeat correct?

[FearedSanctity]

Monday's show is a repeat correct?

Yes

[Shadow]

....This Coach is more annoying than the WWE's Coach!

[Shadow]

IT'S THE DAMN DUDLEYS!

[Jaton]

Bubba's shirt is the best ever.

Trademark this. :foc:

[The Greater Power]

lol @ nash

[Jaton]

Wait..is there a real reason for Kevin Nash being involved?

[6to1]

i wonder how many people will buy the trademark this shirt

[The Answer]

Wait..is there a real reason for Kevin Nash being involved?

:shifty: He's coming for the title

[McLegend]

That ending was SICK!!!!!

[Savio]

Nash should win.

[Crimson]

Show kinda sucked...in the end you didn't even know what the heck was goin on. They coulda done better.

[Loose Cannon]

Wait..is there a real reason for Kevin Nash being involved?

He's a KNOWN NAME. Casual Fans know him and they have seen him wrestle for World Titles before. It lets TNA build some young guys for a little while Jarett gets at least one win on a credible guy.

AWESOME SHOW.

400X better then Raw

[Loose Cannon]

Show kinda sucked...in the end you didn't even know what the heck was goin on. They coulda done better.

lol unbelievable

[Xerzes]

Well, nice to see Jake Roberts back in the ring after all this time. He's really gotten back in shape. Good for him.

...wait, that's Sabu. Icky.

[Loose Cannon]

Well, nice to see Jake Roberts back in the ring after all this time. He's really gotten back in shape. Good for him.

...wait, that's Sabu. Icky.

no

[Savio]

it was not 400x better then raw

[Mr. JL]

I only saw half the show but I was 'im f'n pressed'. The Sabin/Williams/Shelley match was good. Hell, Jeff Hardy actually appeared to be trying in the ring. The ending was sick with Team 3-D and Kevin Nash. I was entertained. I can't wait to see the ratings for the show, hopefully they are good.

[Jaton]

Yes it was.

[Loose Cannon]

Yea Great Show

Showcased AJ and his sick moveset

Gave interview time to Monty and had him in a sqash match, which he does best

Showcased great X-Division action. Gave Sabin a credible win and showcased The Destroyer.

Nice video packages for thier "stars"

Presented Raven as a screwed over anti-authority guy.

Showcased the AMW heel turn and JJ. Brought in the Dudleys in an awesome way. Brought back Nash, whom all casual fans probably know. And gave some spotlight to Team Canada and 3LK

The camera angles were excellent; quick cuts, in your face, fast action.

The set had a "big time" feel to it. I thought it was terrible on Fox Sports.

The video package of the X-Division was tremendous.

All in one hour. This show kicked major ass

[JH]

no it was 500x better than raw lol

awesome damn show from start to finish
cant wait for next saturday amw vs those damn dudleys

oh and let me say this CANADIAN FUCKING DESTROYER
GREATEST FINISHER EVER

[Loose Cannon]

I never changed the channel one time or turned my head one time during the show. Something I do all the time Monday Night.

[Jaton]

I wish they would've had Shocker there just for his pinning move.

[Savio]

in 6 weeks LC will hate TNA

[Savio]

I wish they would've had Shocker there just for his pinning move.Tripping?

[Gouda]

Why is Sabu genocidal? Did he used to rally up fans in death camps and gas them?

[McLegend]

Yes he did actually

[Jaton]

Yes. Often.

[Jaton]

After he tried killing himself. Apparently he was a fan of himself.

[Loose Cannon]

BTW, I never saw AJ's "Pele" before and HOLY SHIT. I jumped up and went :eek: for that one.

[Jaton]

LC, he does it almost every match. It's pretty sick looking.

[vampiro03]

im watching iwa total impact right now. jeff jarrett is wrestling "shane". I've never heard of iwa. the production really sucks but its all right.

[Nowhere Man]

Great show up till the end. I mean really, why have Raven chase the title some more when we can bring back Kevin Nash for another series of atrocious matches?

Other than that, I can't really complain.

[McLegend]

Actually I hear the last Double J and Nash match was pretty good. So maybe they will have another good one.

Maybe?

[Nowhere Man]

Who the fuck is that guy with Abyss?

"Father" James Mitchell, formerly the Sinister Minister in ECW (managed Tajiri and Mikey Whipwreck)

[Loose Cannon]

Cause Nash is someone who has challenged for a WORLD TITLE in a Major Pormotion before and HAS BEEN World Champion. Casual Fans tuning into TNA for the first time see Nash and immediately see him as a threat to the Title. Gives JJ a credible win over a legit guy and gives TNA enough time to build someone to take the Title from JJ.

[vampiro03]

nash will hurt himself leaning aginst the ropes

[Volchok]

LC knows his shit...

[Savio]

LC is trying to make himself believe.

[KayfabeMan]

"Father" James Mitchell, formerly the Sinister Minister in ECW (managed Tajiri and Mikey Whipwreck)

Also, he was known as James Vandenberg in WCW - where he managed Mortis (Kanyon) and Wrath (Bryan Clarke / Adam Bomb), etc. in a feud against Glacier and Ernest Miller - and then had his own segment on WCW Saturday Night for a time.

[KayfabeMan]

Also, BTW, Shocker is a giant piece of crap.

Using that guy is pointless and a waste of time and money.

That is why WWE should sign him. :y:

[Skippord]

oh and let me say this CANADIAN FUCKING DESTROYER
GREATEST FINISHER EVER

Right behind the Cradle Shock and Angels Wings

[Joey Slugs]

i have to agree here... TNA's one hour was 100x better than 2 hours of Raw. I will be looking forward to this week in and week out.

"This is a new dawn in professional wrestling"

Yeah, and the CD is still the SICKEST FUCKING MOVE IN THE BUSINESS.

[RP]

Its only the first show. Jesus christ .

[Destor]

Great way to kick of the "series" if thats the right word for it. Looking forward to next week, I hope they can keep the quality where its at.

[Londoner]

Sounds good, wish I could get it here in the UK.

[Sadistic]

It sounded cool. We won't get it on the wrestling channel for months. Has anyone uploaded it?

[Destor]

Does anyone know when the replay will air so I can record it? I heard it was changed from the hour after RAW to some other time slot.

[Loose Cannon]

12 est Monday Night.

[JH]

Actually I hear the last Double J and Nash match was pretty good. So maybe they will have another good one.

Maybe?


their first match for the title was a good match

nash is in the best shape of his career and he was looking good in his first tna run

[Nark Order]

Konnan is ridiculous.

[Loose Cannon]

The only thing TNA needs to be extremely careful about now they at being presented to a national audience is there pacing in matches. Last night, you got two matches very close to one another that were extremelly fast paced, with a lot of spot moves. TNA has to watch these matches because most audiences do not like seeing too many quick paced matches. People, who aren't hardcore wrestling fans, need time to process the moves and the action. If you go to fast, you'll lose them within the presentation. Stopping and stalling are key.

I noticed right away how AJ and Strong didn't even stare down each other or walk around the ring for a minute or so before the match. They just sort of exploded form the bell. They need to watch that.

[Shadow]

As I said before, Impact was lightyears better than RAW or Smackdown ever was. But there are a few things they can improve.

Like LC said, the pacing has to get slowed down a bit. Nothing fancy but just needs to slow down.

Another thing is the space between ring apron and security railing. It needs to increase. Every time someone did a high spot to the outside, I held my breath thinking that they were about to crack their skulls open. Don't know how far it is now, but it needs to increase by about a foot or so.

Brown should not ever have a mic again. He's trying to be the Rock and it's failing. Misreable.

Louder music. I don't know why they've got the sound system turned down to 5 but it needs to be at least 7 or 8. Maybe 9 if they want to push it. And that's on a scale of 1-10 folks.

Other than that...I'm looking forward to TNA.

[FearedSanctity]

Anyone know when can we expect to find out the rating for Impact?

[The One]

Give it a week.

[Flashman#2]

shoot, I miised it :(

I watching a movie I rented

[McLegend]

Brown should not ever have a mic again. He's trying to be the Rock and it's failing. Misreable.
I like how Brown cuts his promos. Something different.

Also sounded and felt nothing like the Rock. You must have been high while watching it.

[vampiro03]

I did like it better than raw. but if those matches were on raw they would be midcards. jeff Hardy isn't anything anymore. I loved the show accept nobody was put through a table at the end.

[Loose Cannon]

gonna neg rep you again. Cause I have the power

[vampiro03]

gonna neg rep you again. Cause I have the power

I won't lick your ass, I refuse. so, piss-off! Neg me:y: whatever. are you bleeding or someting? take a midol and calm down honey

[Loose Cannon]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Shadow]

I did like it better than raw. but if those matches were on raw they would be midcards. jeff Hardy isn't anything anymore. I loved the show accept nobody was put through a table at the end.

Fuck you.

[vampiro03]

Fuck you.

let me rephrase it,i think you took it wrong. wwe only has 5 guys atop the mountain and never let anyone else up there. in tna they had almost no backstage talking bla bla bla. I said I liked the show but I don't like jeff hardy. I love the fact they emphasize the WRESTLING part of the show. most of the matches wouldve been on raw mid card because of their "king of the mountain" attitude. I wasn't knocking the show at all

[loopydate]

So if they're emphazing the WRESTLING part of the show, why did someone need to go through a table, exactly?

[James Steele]

I will say this:


When Jeff Hardy actually gives a damn, he is a decent guy in the ring.

[JH]

james ever since he came to tna jeff really has gave a damn and has stepped his game up tremendously

[James Steele]

james ever since he came to tna jeff really has gave a damn and has stepped his game up tremendously

That's why I said...


I will say this:


When Jeff Hardy actually gives a damn, he is a decent guy in the ring.

:p

[JH]

yea i knew what you meant
i was just agreeing

[James Steele]

:love:

[Fox]

The only thing TNA needs to be extremely careful about now they at being presented to a national audience is there pacing in matches. Last night, you got two matches very close to one another that were extremelly fast paced, with a lot of spot moves. TNA has to watch these matches because most audiences do not like seeing too many quick paced matches. People, who aren't hardcore wrestling fans, need time to process the moves and the action. If you go to fast, you'll lose them within the presentation. Stopping and stalling are key.

I noticed right away how AJ and Strong didn't even stare down each other or walk around the ring for a minute or so before the match. They just sort of exploded form the bell. They need to watch that.

Gotta disagree here.

TNA stands for Total Non-stop Action. And as gay as that name may be, the product needs to reflect the title. WWE is World Wrestling Entertainment - they wrestle, but they also put on their soap opera bullshit to "entertain." TNA is about the action.

I think that putting out more fast paced, untampered with, "holy fucking shit did you see that?" matches is a great idea. It's such a breath of fresh air from WWE's stagnant, repetitive, scripted matches that they do now. Every month or so we'll be treated to a great match on WWE TV (from HBK or Shelton Benjamin more often than not), but with TNA we're going to be seeing great matches every week.

Besides, they've still got guys like Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Monty Brown, Raven, and others who can do the slower style, and more often than not, that will be the main event.


Great show last night. Can't wait til next week.

[The Naitch]

oops, I missed this shit

[Shadow]

Gotta disagree here.

TNA stands for Total Non-stop Action. And as gay as that name may be, the product needs to reflect the title. WWE is World Wrestling Entertainment - they wrestle, but they also put on their soap opera bullshit to "entertain." TNA is about the action.

I think that putting out more fast paced, untampered with, "holy fucking shit did you see that?" matches is a great idea. It's such a breath of fresh air from WWE's stagnant, repetitive, scripted matches that they do now. Every month or so we'll be treated to a great match on WWE TV (from HBK or Shelton Benjamin more often than not), but with TNA we're going to be seeing great matches every week.

Besides, they've still got guys like Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Monty Brown, Raven, and others who can do the slower style, and more often than not, that will be the main event.


Great show last night. Can't wait til next week.

Don't think LC ment that they need to slow the matches down. They need to watch how many fast paced matches they do in a row. Give the audience too much of that and they start to get jaded. That's all.

[Loose Cannon]

Gotta disagree here.

TNA stands for Total Non-stop Action. And as gay as that name may be, the product needs to reflect the title. WWE is World Wrestling Entertainment - they wrestle, but they also put on their soap opera bullshit to "entertain." TNA is about the action.

I think that putting out more fast paced, untampered with, "holy fucking shit did you see that?" matches is a great idea. It's such a breath of fresh air from WWE's stagnant, repetitive, scripted matches that they do now. Every month or so we'll be treated to a great match on WWE TV (from HBK or Shelton Benjamin more often than not), but with TNA we're going to be seeing great matches every week.

Besides, they've still got guys like Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Monty Brown, Raven, and others who can do the slower style, and more often than not, that will be the main event.


Great show last night. Can't wait til next week.


You have no understanding of the wrestling market at all if you think this. Stop looking atb the business through the eyes of yourself and look at it through the eyes of the consumers as a whole. Name a company that suceeded on a national level where a lot of there matches were spot fest fast paced action for half the night? You can't because none have succeded like that.

Listen to people within the industry talk about the pacing, the pyschology and the timing of matches. You can't do these crazy faced paced matches a lot cause you'll lose the audiecne. You ever wonder why companies like ROH aren't as big as the WWE or WCW or the AWA was? It's because they have a style that DOES NOT reflect the the likes of the mass audience.

THAT BULLSHIT soap opera is what got WWF to the top in 98 and WCW to the top in 96 and WWF to the top in 87. The audience eats up those storylines and characters. You have to understand, you can do those spot fest faced paced matches if you want, but you CANNOT be greedy with them and present a lot of that. WCW did it right by doing maybe one or two cruiser-weight bouts during thier 3 hour block and the fans craved for more every week because they didn't see them all the time.

[Loose Cannon]

err, kind of missed another point I was going to make. I was talking about the pacing of matches.

You saw two matches Sat night that were READY SET GO...BOOM...BOOM....BOOM....BOM....BOOM....BOOM...AND FINISHED kind of matches.

TNA has to teach these guys to pace themselves. These guys are tremendous wrestlers, but they can't just go out there and hit move after move without stopping. One of the KEY elements to having great matches is getting the audience to care about you. Why should they cheer for you? Why should they boo you? What are you doing to involve them? Why should the audience care if you "hurt" your leg? Sell those hard impact moves, sell the fact that you're having trouble climbing the top rope because you came down hard on your leg before, sell the fact that you just landed on a railing from 5 feet up and you're slower because of it.

Play off the emotion from the crowd. Go back and watch Rock/Hogan from Mania 18 to see what I'm talking about. Watch HBK/Jerichio from Mania 19. That's what seperates the good from the great. It's not that you can hit crazy moves one after the other and get pops from the crowd, it's the ability to make the crowd connect with the characters in the ring.

AJ Styles, Petey Williams, Chris Sabin are all tremendous wrestlers, but I don't think they mastered the art of psychology yet and that's something they're gonna have to learn. AJ has progressed a lot though as time went on.

[Boondock Saint]

Well said.