Ha! Kid Kash has already got heat backstage

[Dave Youell]

Kid Kash was originally scheduled to work this past weekends SmackDown! brand house shows but was pulled because of a dress code infraction. Kash was at the TV tapings last week and was present during Vince McMahon' meeting about being late and the dress code. Kash was apparently seen by agents at the airport in jeans and a t-shirt at 5AM. Kash was removed because of this and replaced with Nunzio. Kash has been sent back to Deep South Wrestling and there are actually some who believe his job could be in danger because of this. Managements feeling is that there are loads of other guys who would love to be a part of the main roster and would be willing to follow the 'rules'.
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Wow! That's got to be a new record

[The One]

Nothing says "Please fire me" like walking throw an airport in jeans and a T....fuck WWE. Kash is one of the best free talents out there, and because he disn't wear a fucking suit, in a place where I bet only 3 people knew who he was (2 of them probably be fellow WWE employees)...ah fuck it...fuck them.

[The Naitch]

hahaha

[LK]

To quote Eric Cartman, "weak", stupid WWE.

[Shadow]

Wow.....5AM in an airport and he got busted for not wearing a suit....

Fuck you WWE.

[Nark Order]

Dunno why you guys are freaking out. He knew the rules and didn't follow them, his own fault.

[Shadow]

Dunno why you guys are freaking out. He knew the rules and didn't follow them, his own fault.

It's a dumbass rule.

Cause I know that when I wake up for a 6 AM flight, first thing I do is put on my suit and tie.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.

[Jaton]

While I agree that it is stupid, I can't help but have some sympathy for him. He IS a really good talent, and I'd hate to see it wasted by him not following their dumbass dress code. I mean shit, at least cuss out HHH to get fired or something. I don't know. ;\

[Anybody Thrilla]

C'mon Jaton, there has to be a point at SOME time during your wrestling enjoyment where you become desensitized to all of the talents not being treated fairly. This is a fairly common thing. Kid Kash should be aware of things like this. If somebody told me I could have my dream job, but I'd just have to wear a suit at all times, I'd fucking do it in a heartbeat. No sympathy from me.

[PorkSoda]

So you have to wear a suit to be in WWE? That sucks. I would do the same thing Kash did and wear whatever I want. I hate wearing suits and it just...sucks

[Anybody Thrilla]

He already wears tights. A suit is a step up, in my opinion.

[PullMyFinger]

Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.
I agree. It's a WWE policy, and anyone who sympathizes with Kash needs to get over it. That's the real world for ya!

[Rob]

Real world? WWE isn't part of the real world.

WWE can't enforce dress codes outside of their TV shows. Technically, they can't even enforce it backstage because wrestling talent are not employees. They are all classed as "independent contractors". And don't even argue that they are employees because they aren't. Had this arguement here before and people will get embarrassed if they argue they are employees.

Basically WWE is holding guys by the balls in that they know they are the only place you can work and make a good regular income. If another company was around, this rule wouldn't be.

Do you think it really effects drawing power? Yeah I'm really gonna pay more money to see the Undertaker, Tito Ortiz or Oscar De La Hoya if they are wearing suits.

I wish they put as much effort into their TV product as they do to stupid fucking dress codes.

[Kane Knight]

It's a dumbass rule.

Cause I know that when I wake up for a 6 AM flight, first thing I do is put on my suit and tie.

You get fired a lot, don't you.

[TerranRich]

Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.

Sounds kinda mindless and drone-like to me. ;)

Serirously though, it's a stupid reason to get "heat". Hassan got heat for not listening to one of the legends' advice. That's reasonable and makes sense. But for wearing normal clothes in an airport when you work for a wrestling company? Even I wouldn't bother wearing a goddamn suit. Rules or no rules, it's ridiculous. And like someone above me said, WWE isn't in the real world. :p

[Disturbed316]

Christ, at 5am people would be lucky to be seeing my in my jimmy jams, let alone a fucking suit.

[Shadow]

Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.

Hey AT...shut up.

It's 5 in the fucking morning. You have just woken up and your flight is at 7 in the morning. Are you really gonna put on a suit and tie just to get on a fucking airplane? Are you fucking insane?

[KayfabeMan]

ROB :heart:

[Kane Knight]

Hey AT...shut up.

It's 5 in the fucking morning. You have just woken up and your flight is at 7 in the morning. Are you really gonna put on a suit and tie just to get on a fucking airplane? Are you fucking insane?

That is such a pathetic crybaby excuse it's not even funny.

Did he know he had a 7 AM flight?

Did he know about the dress code?

Did he know his job would include travel at fucked up hours?

What's that? Yes? You mean, this didn't come out of nowhere? So where's the fucking problem? When you're a professional, you do a professional job. If you feel appearing in public dressed in a suit is unreasonable, go work at Burger King.

[Kane Knight]

Real world? WWE isn't part of the real world.

WWE can't enforce dress codes outside of their TV shows. Technically, they can't even enforce it backstage because wrestling talent are not employees. They are all classed as "independent contractors". And don't even argue that they are employees because they aren't. Had this arguement here before and people will get embarrassed if they argue they are employees.

Basically WWE is holding guys by the balls in that they know they are the only place you can work and make a good regular income. If another company was around, this rule wouldn't be.

Do you think it really effects drawing power? Yeah I'm really gonna pay more money to see the Undertaker, Tito Ortiz or Oscar De La Hoya if they are wearing suits.

I wish they put as much effort into their TV product as they do to stupid fucking dress codes.

They can't enforce it in any legal sense, but since they can affect how and where you're working, they really DO affect it. The issue is, since they're contracted and not emlpoyees, they don't even have the right to fight it (IIRC).

[Nark Order]

Stupid rule or not. It's a rule. He knew the rule and blatatantly chose to ignore it. It's his fault. The end.

I do not see what the big uproar is about here. He was being a complete moron at the time and will have to face the consequences. Any other company with a dress code woud have done something similar, it's called defiance. If he follows the rules from now on he should be fine.

[redoneja]

Not like they were really gonna use him anyway...

[Shadow]

That is such a pathetic crybaby excuse it's not even funny.

Did he know he had a 7 AM flight?

Did he know about the dress code?

Did he know his job would include travel at fucked up hours?

What's that? Yes? You mean, this didn't come out of nowhere? So where's the fucking problem? When you're a professional, you do a professional job. If you feel appearing in public dressed in a suit is unreasonable, go work at Burger King.

You can just go straight to hell sir. Straight to hell.

This is why the WWe is so mad with power. This fucking dress code shit ruins lots of people. It's just another reason why the WWE sucks so damn much right now. So let's hurry up TNA and give the WWE something else to worry about besides a dress code.

[Gertner]

They could have a rule where you have to wear a plastic bowl on your head at all time. It doesn't matter, a rule is a rule.

[Nark Order]

He made a bad first impression by breaking WWE's dress codes standards. It's not the end of the world. Get over it.

[PullMyFinger]

That is such a pathetic crybaby excuse it's not even funny.

Did he know he had a 7 AM flight?

Did he know about the dress code?

Did he know his job would include travel at fucked up hours?

What's that? Yes? You mean, this didn't come out of nowhere? So where's the fucking problem? When you're a professional, you do a professional job. If you feel appearing in public dressed in a suit is unreasonable, go work at Burger King.
Bravo.

[The Naitch]

yeah, fuck Kid Kash. He fucked up. His own fault

[PullMyFinger]

You can just go straight to hell sir. Straight to hell.

This is why the WWe is so mad with power. This fucking dress code shit ruins lots of people. It's just another reason why the WWE sucks so damn much right now. So let's hurry up TNA and give the WWE something else to worry about besides a dress code.
That's not the point though. The point is, it's a rule that the company made, and any employee of that company has to follow the rule (as long as the rule itself is a legit one, not like revert to another religion of course). If they don't want to, simple as that..they can leave. Do I like that code? No. Does Kid Kash like it? Obviously not. However, the rules are the rule.

It's like going to class shirtless with board shorts as if you're going to the beach. Against the rules and you'll be told to leave the campus.

[RemyRed]

lol Shadow relaxxx. Hmm, I wonder if Shadow ever lost his job due to a dress code at his company.

[The Naitch]

fuck shadow and fuck kid kash

[Shadow]

lol Shadow relaxxx. Hmm, I wonder if Shadow ever lost his job due to a dress code at his company.

Nope. Got canned for attempting to steal porn mags but never for dress code.

[weather vane]

There is no excuse it is his own fault. I still think it's one of the stupidest rules I have ever heard. WWE is becoming way too corporate and they need to just concentrate on wrestling.

Do people give a shit if Chris Benoit is wearing a suit or not? I think not.

[Kane Knight]

You can just go straight to hell sir. Straight to hell.

This is why the WWe is so mad with power. This fucking dress code shit ruins lots of people. It's just another reason why the WWE sucks so damn much right now. So let's hurry up TNA and give the WWE something else to worry about besides a dress code.

They're mad with power because they're the only major US wrestling promotion. It has nothing to do with people getting up at 5 AM to catch a 7 AM flight, or even professionalism.

The dress code seems like the thing least likely to ruin people, and if they cannot handle the workload, there are less stressful professions to choose from.

I don't agree with it, but it's a copout to complain that it's unfair to expect people to follow the rules or be professional, especially when you ciite "time"or "just woke up" issues.

[Kane Knight]

Nope. Got canned for attempting to steal porn mags but never for dress code.

You didn't even get away with it>?

[Kane Knight]

Oh, the NBA's making something like this a rule now too.

[Pepsi Man]

Independent contractors or not, the WWE can make rules and put language in the contracts of these guys. I'm sure if the WWE REALLY couldn't legally do it, someone from the lower card would've tried to sue by now.

[Favre4Ever]

You guys who are saying stupid rule or not it is a rule..........can you at LEAST admit that its a stupid rule?

[Nervous Ferret]

No I don't have a problem with the rule at all Mr. Hogan mark

Wearing a suit everywhere is classy, old school if you will. I can see where people would think it's a stupid rule, but KK is definately at fault for not following the rules if you will.

Also suck Fhadow

[Kane Knight]

Independent contractors or not, the WWE can make rules and put language in the contracts of these guys. I'm sure if the WWE REALLY couldn't legally do it, someone from the lower card would've tried to sue by now.

They can't technically do it, but the wrestlers have no legal recourse either. Catch .22

[Kane Knight]

You guys who are saying stupid rule or not it is a rule..........can you at LEAST admit that its a stupid rule?

I don't think it makes a difference either way. Does that make it stupid? I dunno. I don't care.

[KingofOldSchool]

Regardless of what anyone says, the WWE is a company and with just like any other company, if you don't follow the rules...you pay the price. If Kid Kash knew about the rules and didn't follow it, then that's his fault. If he doesn't like the rules, then he can go back to TNA. And if he decides he hates TNA and the indy scene, then he can do something else for a living.

[Boondock Saint]

I agree with what most people are saying. It's a rule. You follow it. Not a hard thing to do. Kash is the one at fault. I don't personally care what these guys wear but as a company obviously having your workers dress in more of a professional manner makes perfect sense.

[The Naitch]

WWE don't care they can find another Kid Kash somewhere else. If it was someone else worth it they'd let it slide

[Corkscrewed]

basically, my opinion is:

stupid rule. stupid of him to break the rule.

[Kane Knight]

I agree with what most people are saying. It's a rule. You follow it. Not a hard thing to do. Kash is the one at fault. I don't personally care what these guys wear but as a company obviously having your workers dress in more of a professional manner makes perfect sense.

Especially once you factor in the fact that these are essentially business flights.

However, does the WWE pay for airfare? Because my addition to this argument is only really viable if the WWE is footing the bill. Just asking in the "interest of fairness."

[Anybody Thrilla]

You can just go straight to hell sir. Straight to hell.

This is why the WWe is so mad with power. This fucking dress code shit ruins lots of people. It's just another reason why the WWE sucks so damn much right now. So let's hurry up TNA and give the WWE something else to worry about besides a dress code.

So I guess Jeff Hardy DOES talk to you after you give him head. :roll:

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yes. Some rules suck. But they are fucking rules. And they are rules for a reason.

Let's put this into perspective before the mock Jeff Hardy body paint fumes start to get to your brain.

The WWE. A company that has been plagued by a stigma through the public eye of not being 'legit' and something pretty much exclusively for rednecks and retards. C'mon, it was derived from carnivals. That shit may have worked back in the day, but the public eye is far too critical at this point to be walking around looking like a bunch of slack-jawed yokels in front of people who don't know where you are.

I know you'd like to think "fuck what people think", but you have to understand that under all of the smoke and mirrors, World Wrestling Entertainment is a BUSINESS. The public is what matters.

AND IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A PAIN IN THE ASS TO WEAR A SUIT. Especially when you're going to be catching paychecks for thousands of fucking dollars. It is a very, VERY small sacrifice.

[Kane Knight]

Dressing up their performers like cheap Hollywood acters will make them look more legit?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Wearing a suit looks better than jeans and a t-shirt. I don't think even YOU could argue that.

[The Naitch]

wrestling is fake, and so are those fake Armani suits.

[RP]

The more i read about this wrestling thing the more i begin to think what a fucked career this must be.

[FourFifty]

Ah, it's been a while since I've seen KK around... then again I'm a nobody jobber who people don't care about... Yes, I am a SmackDown cruiser weight.

Anywho, blah blah blah, it's the rules, blah blah blah, stupid rules, blah blah blah, my pussy hurts, blah blah blah, Triple H is holding people down, blah blah blah...
I've just summed up this whole thread.

[Afterlife]

Um...this is just me talking...but I'm pretty sure that if I had a job thru which I could afford to wear a different suit every day, I'd be doin' it. I'm an egocentric show-off at heart anyway, and I look good regardless of what I'm wearing, so hell, why not look good...in a suit? Plus, it'd make me look like my career is a hundred times better than it really is. I'm not arguing for a RULE, per se. I'm just saying, I, personaly, would be all about that shit.

[BigDaddyCool]

What a dumb ass, it is just a suit. As long as you don't get them from the thrift store, they are pretty comfortable.

[Kane Knight]

Wearing a suit looks better than jeans and a t-shirt. I don't think even YOU could argue that.

I think for a business in which they have asked people to act in character, asking people who play redneck, supernatural, and ghetto characters, this is a break of KAYFABE that would seem to be against the WWE's normal interests. I think this level of presentation is unnecessary for atheletes who run around in tights playing zombies hicks and retards.

I don't see what "looks better" has to do with it, other than a feeble attempt to find an argument you can actually win when your "legit" argument is questioned.

"Sadda, Hussein was a bad man."

"Yes, but sand is prone to being blown around by wind. I don't think even YOU could argue that."

So please, explain your point's relevance, and maybe it will be worth an argument. But really, whether or not a suit looks good has little to do with how much an effect it has on the legitimacy of a company or its workers, especially when they try and push "in character" behaviour for their campy cartoony characters at the same time.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think for a business in which they have asked people to act in character, asking people who play redneck, supernatural, and ghetto characters, this is a break of KAYFABE that would seem to be against the WWE's normal interests. I think this level of presentation is unnecessary for atheletes who run around in tights playing zombies hicks and retards.

They way you described the occupation right there is what I'm talking about. The public may see them as zombies, hicks, and retards.

Maybe it's just me, but it would appear that the WWE is making no bones about their product being fake any longer. They lost that war a long time ago. And if you look around at non-wrestling things where wrestlers appear, it would seem that they are trying to make their workers more presentable to the masses.

Suits have always been a sign of respect. That's exactly what I believe the WWE is looking for. Of course, there's no way for me to know this, but it makes perfect sense to have a dress code to me.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Hold on I'm not getting this He was given shit for not wearing a suit in a airport? I mean I could understand that's one of the rules but I thought that rule only applied when a wrestler was backstage or at a meeting or something. Now WWE can tell people what to wear in a fucking airport? I'm confused.

[Kane Knight]

They way you described the occupation right there is what I'm talking about. The public may see them as zombies, hicks, and retards.

Because, in part, you are supposed to play your part even off the "stage." Remember recently where they even asked Nick Dinsmore to BE RETARDED in public, For that fixer chick to wear a bandaid over her cheek when in public, etc.? Every couple of years they renew this, and they're doing it and have done it recently.

Does a suit make Nick Dinsmore look any less retarded when he's running around the airport making airplane "wings" with his arms? Does it make him look any less retarded when he's hopping on a plane where he'll land and go to an arena where he acts retarded?

No. It won't dismiss or alter the image. Either you accept them as actors or not. Saying "don't Try This At Home" doesn't actually stop kids from imitating what they see on TV, slapping an "M" on a video game doesn't stop kids from getting them.

It's a superficial gesture to dismiss (By your logic) something which they encourage (By their own logic, by action, by fact). It's not going to work, and would certainly make a large portion of the roster look funnier than if Helms dressed up in his Hurri-suit for every flight.

Maybe it's just me, but it would appear that the WWE is making no bones about their product being fake any longer. They lost that war a long time ago. And if you look around at non-wrestling things where wrestlers appear, it would seem that they are trying to make their workers more presentable to the masses.


Unless you had an attention span longer than five minutes.

And you still haven't explained why "looking better" equals legitimisation.

Suits have always been a sign of respect. That's exactly what I believe the WWE is looking for. Of course, there's no way for me to know this, but it makes perfect sense to have a dress code to me.

Do you respect Mike Tyson more because he wore a suit? Convicts dress in suits for court, and still get looked down on. Rapists, murderers, pedophiles--Not just bankers, Presidents, and CEOs. A suit has lost most of its status as a sign of power or respect, it's become a formality and little more.

On top of that, these are prformers who are asked to play retards, zombies, 900 lb love machines, super heroes, cowboys, rednecks, sociopaths...

...And then are asked to stay in character by the authority that you say is trying to create respect. What could logically apply both as true?

[6to1]

told you all that wwe would hire him but put him on a short leash, since he can't go back to tna they can do what they want with him.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It's a fucking rule.

[Anybody Thrilla]

BTW, didn't read any of that, Kane Knight.

[CharismaInjection]

just imagine this:

Triple H was caught leaving an airport in a T Shirt and Jeans. As a result, WWE has released Triple H...

[Kane Knight]

BTW, didn't read any of that, Kane Knight.

Of course not. Nobody wants to look stupid when confronted by logic. :)

[Anybody Thrilla]

Nah. It's just that you are incapable of seeing a possible different side, so what's the point?

[Kane Knight]

:lol: Nice copout. What, was "I'm taking my ball and going home!" taken?

Especially ironic since I've been arguing both sides in this argument. That's not just making you look like you're copping out, it shows you up in this very argument since it's even more clear. :D

[Anybody Thrilla]

Shut up, you big gay.

P.S. - I secretly love you, but don't tell anybody.

[Kane Knight]

:p

It's just funny you're not going to argue with someone playing "Devil's Advocate" to both sides because they can't see any argument other than theirs.

:kiss:

[Anybody Thrilla]

It's just funny that shut up, too.