View Full Version : Dinsmore breaks Caracter
Eunos
10-25-2005, 08:16 AM
From Wrestlezone:
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Eugene recently broke character at a RAW house show in front of the entire audience. When walking to the back, a fan yelled out "You can do better than this", to which Eugene broke character and replied to, in a normal voice, saying "I know". We hope to have more on this story soon, including what, if any, punishment Eugene got for not only breaking character in front of fans, but actually doing it at ringside. WWE has been making Eugene stay in character whenever fans come around or someone recognizes him outside of WWE events ever since he started the gimmick.
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Im hoping the end is near for Eugene.
The Gimmick was Cute to begin with but now it is unbelivably Stale.
Nick Dinsmore is a great Wrestler who Deserves better.
Destor
10-25-2005, 08:24 AM
I doubt there will be a backlash as it was at a house show and they are irrelevant. I hope they end the character soon tbh. I enjoyed when he first came on the scene but know I just feel sorry for him. Pity isn't something particularly good for a wrestlers career.
Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2005, 08:44 AM
They'll probably have himt ake the fall to Rob Conway at Taboo Tuesday or something.
I hope they use this as a stepping stone to do what Watson said they could od ith the character (I think it was Watson, anyway), and that was to have him come out and reveal Eric Bischoff is forcing him to play the character, and he's sick of it, and he's going to be Nick Dinsmore from now on. Hell, have him jump over to SmackDown! and aid them in the Interpromotional Tag Team Match at Taboo Tuesday. Nick Dinsmore in the US Title scene = :drool:.
Disturbed316
10-25-2005, 09:29 AM
ROFL
Kane Knight
10-25-2005, 11:45 AM
They'll probably have himt ake the fall to Rob Conway at Taboo Tuesday or something.
I hope they use this as a stepping stone to do what Watson said they could od ith the character (I think it was Watson, anyway), and that was to have him come out and reveal Eric Bischoff is forcing him to play the character, and he's sick of it, and he's going to be Nick Dinsmore from now on. Hell, have him jump over to SmackDown! and aid them in the Interpromotional Tag Team Match at Taboo Tuesday. Nick Dinsmore in the US Title scene = :drool:.
Errr...I've been saying that. Maybe Watson said it as well, but I don't know.
TerranRich
10-25-2005, 11:59 AM
When walking to the back, a fan yelled out "You can do better than this", to which Eugene broke character and replied to, in a normal voice, saying "I know".
That's...incredibly sad. I feel bad for Nick, being stuck in that character for so long without really going anywhere. At first, I even thought that story was a joke, until I saw the credit.
Kane Knight
10-25-2005, 12:04 PM
I think it's probably an attitude shared by half the locker room. Dinsmore's just more obvious because he's playing a retard. But you can do better and nobody would ever see you, or do what you're doing in front of one of the biggest pro wrestling audiences.
The Gooch
10-25-2005, 01:05 PM
If they were to re-create his character I would prefer it as a heel turn rather than an "Eric was forcing me to do this" angle. Have him actually in cahoots with Eric, and that Eric and Nick created the character to prove that the fans are so stupid they would even cheer for a retard, may be a more interesting angle to take. Of course we'd have to selectively ignore a whole bunch of History, but we are all pretty good at doing that.
The end of the day problem is Nick lacks a very good look. It works well with the current character, but how do you make it work with something new?
Kane Knight
10-25-2005, 01:10 PM
My suggestion came more out of a response to a resounding "There is no way they could make him a face after this."
Kane Knight
10-25-2005, 01:11 PM
Honestly, I don't care if he's a face or heel. I'm just hoping to see him wrestle as something not retarded.
...But, since he's in the WWE...
The Gooch
10-25-2005, 01:15 PM
My suggestion came more out of a response to a resounding "There is no way they could make him a face after this."
Then I totally agree with your plan. I'm thinking him going heel is the only way to save Nick any little credibility he has left at the moment.
Kane Knight
10-25-2005, 01:38 PM
You mean he "may have" left...
The Icon of Elisim
10-25-2005, 01:43 PM
I posted this a while ago, I still think this is a good idea and would go over better than a breaking kayfabe angle
Imagine if after he returns from injury he brings a lawyer with him who threatens to sue Raw if Eugene isn't given special treatment because of his special status. He gets to wrestle his opponents in unfair circumstances, he gets choice title matches, he can attack people without repercussions, etc.
He'd still be retarded (the comical part being more or less gone) and we'd be reminded about it week in week out and constantly boo him cause he's being an asshole about it and getting away with it.
Have you guys ever seen the King of the Hill episode where Hank hires a meth addict and then they can't fire him on the grounds that he's considered disabled since he's a meth addict? That's basically the idea
KingofOldSchool
10-25-2005, 01:52 PM
I say they take Conway and Dinsmore off Raw...repackage them, and then bring them back on TV as a babyface tag team to feud with Cade/Murdoch.
The Gooch
10-25-2005, 02:11 PM
I posted this a while ago, I still think this is a good idea and would go over better than a breaking kayfabe angle
Imagine if after he returns from injury he brings a lawyer with him who threatens to sue Raw if Eugene isn't given special treatment because of his special status. He gets to wrestle his opponents in unfair circumstances, he gets choice title matches, he can attack people without repercussions, etc.
He'd still be retarded (the comical part being more or less gone) and we'd be reminded about it week in week out and constantly boo him cause he's being an asshole about it and getting away with it.
Have you guys ever seen the King of the Hill episode where Hank hires a meth addict and then they can't fire him on the grounds that he's considered disabled since he's a meth addict? That's basically the idea
I like it.
Perhaps we can have the heel lawyer serve as a quasi manager?
KingofOldSchool
10-25-2005, 02:13 PM
Maybe we have a new role for Daiviri. :shifty:
Y2Jeremy
10-25-2005, 02:30 PM
Dinsmore should come out and reveal that he was never slow, and as a matter of fact, is a certified genius. He could become himself with that gimmick and have more room to grow, either as a smart-ass or an asshole.
darkpower
10-25-2005, 02:36 PM
They can always take the easy route: Move him to SmackDown and do the same thing they did with Christian, destroy his push.
Jaton
10-25-2005, 03:16 PM
What push?
Nark Order
10-25-2005, 03:18 PM
I still say he should turn into an evil diabolical heel and explain that he's been faking it to get the fans behind him the entire time.
Sadistic
10-25-2005, 03:20 PM
I say they take Conway and Dinsmore off Raw...repackage them, and then bring them back on TV as a babyface tag team to feud with Cade/Murdoch.
Yeah the would save the tag team division. I'm just picturing the epic matches right now.
Jaton
10-25-2005, 03:23 PM
It definitely would HELP the tag division which is in shambles right now.
Nervous Ferret
10-25-2005, 04:06 PM
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BigDaddyCool
10-25-2005, 05:27 PM
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also note his ass.
TerranRich
10-25-2005, 06:20 PM
Nobody's noted, Lilian Garcia though, huh? :wtf:
The One
10-25-2005, 06:23 PM
Notice the guy with the black shirt that says "Staff"...I wonder if he works there or something...
Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2005, 06:46 PM
I say they take Conway and Dinsmore off Raw...repackage them, and then bring them back on TV as a babyface tag team to feud with Cade/Murdoch.
I like the idea of The Lords of the Ring being reformed. It seems like bad-timing, though, because Eugene and Rob Conway are in the thick of a feud involving WWE Legends.
I really think they should let Conway & Dinsmore WRESTLE at Taboo Tuesday, give the PPV a reason to order the replay, and then you can have reveal whatever the Hell you want about them, but just have them team together.
I suppose you could have Dinsmore turn on the Legend he's with, and then he and Conway reveal they're really partners, and you can have them feud with new face World Tag Team Champions (Val Venis & Viscera/the Taboo Tuesday rejectees).
Gouda
10-25-2005, 09:01 PM
They could give him special pills that make him normal. Then he sees how everyone was treating him with pity and becomes an asshole.
Then people try and steal his pills so he goes back to being retarded.
and then Goldust comes back, holding his "i still remember sign" wondering how he got it, and then sends it to booker t
he then takes the pills, becomes a retard for 2 weeks, while on smackdown booker t gets the note, but then goldust is fired
PorkSoda
10-25-2005, 09:23 PM
When I first saw this thread I thought Dinsmore took a Wolverine doll character and smashed it, therefore "Breaking" it.
lol, Dinsmore must hate the Eugene character.
Kane Knight
10-25-2005, 09:35 PM
He must hate it most of all.
Well, unless sledge is watching Raw, in which case he's probably seething over his brother.
Favre4Ever
10-25-2005, 10:12 PM
It would be kind of funny if Nick Dinsmore stayed in Kayfabe mode so often that it actually became a part of his personality.
Nervous Ferret
10-25-2005, 10:54 PM
yeah hilarious
James Steele
10-25-2005, 10:59 PM
Actually, Taboo Tuesday would be a great way to turn Dinsmore and introduce the lords of the ring. Basically, have their match and midway through Eugene snaps out of his retard shtick and just grabs a chair and whoops the shit out of his tag team partner. Conway smirks and Eugene gets the mic and speaks to the stunned crowd. He goes on a rant about how he has been forced to play a retard by WWE, but moreso it is the fans fault for cheering his ass and making him popular. He says that he is going to make everybody regret the day they cheered Eugene.
Nervous Ferret
10-25-2005, 11:01 PM
Is Eric Bischoff still his uncle, or did they drop that too
Kane Knight
10-25-2005, 11:04 PM
They haven't mentioned it in a while TMK, but I don't think they dropped it.
The Naitch
10-26-2005, 03:35 AM
Keep him retarded. That's his niche. Atleast have him turn retard heel first
FourFifty
10-26-2005, 04:14 AM
No matter what happens Raw will have a retard... even if it's just a writer.
Corkscrewed
10-26-2005, 05:47 AM
So... we can expect to see Dinsmore in TNA in 91 days, right?
Well, I look at it this way. If they turn him normal and it "doesn't work out" (by WWE's "standards"), they could always do the hit in the head with a rock thing and really make him retarded. Of course, if they ever wanted to change him back after that, I don't know how they would do it logically. (Yeah, I'm pretending that the WWE would try to do it logically.)
Kane Knight
10-26-2005, 09:26 AM
No matter what happens Raw will have a retard... even if it's just an announcer.
Kane Knight
10-26-2005, 09:28 AM
Well, I look at it this way. If they turn him normal and it "doesn't work out" (by WWE's "standards"), they could always do the hit in the head with a rock thing and really make him retarded. Of course, if they ever wanted to change him back after that, I don't know how they would do it logically. (Yeah, I'm pretending that the WWE would try to do it logically.)
He gets hit in the head with a steel chair, negating the Rock.
Alternatively, Mick Foley does a "This is your life" segment, Eugene remembers who he is, and commits suicide out of embarrassment when he sees himself doing an airplane spin.
Gouda
10-26-2005, 08:34 PM
He gets hit in the head with a steel chair, negating the Rock.
Then whenever he gets hit in the head with a blunt object he switches again! That way he could be all like switching from retard to normal in the mid-match! :shifty:
PYRO-MANIAC
10-26-2005, 08:50 PM
If they could turn him in a way to have the fans boo the shit out of him it would be hilarious.
Id have him beat up some random kid out of the audience, im not talking a 5 year old or something.. just some annoying 16 year old kid if thats legal! :lol:
Either that or have him beat up some other retard or dwarf.. :yes:
Nick Dinsmore could be amazing if he's cut loose, he's still young but nows the time to cut him loose. The Eugene gimmck as people have said was cute and hell 'sometimes' funny to begin with. Now though its become old and stale so i just hope the WWE see this as a cry for help from Nick and not anything thats a sackable offence.
He's clearly not happy with what he's doing so why not just turn him? Its time just like it was Hurricanes time to turn back into Helms. :y:
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