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The Greater Power
11-16-2005, 11:08 PM
Source: PWTorch Newsletter (Subscription available www.pwtorch.com)

-- In the latest PWTorch newsletter, editor Wade Keller states quite bluntly that there is apparently a top wrestler wrestling in the WWE today who’s considered to be on an “unofficial death watch”. He doesn’t go on to further elaborate on who this wrestler is, but he does go on to mention how people need to do what it takes to keep him alive, even at the “expense of box office receipts, storyline interruptions” and more.

-- The deathwatch, which is apparently no secret to most within WWE, is still possibly unknown to Vince McMahon, who would need to be informed. The un-named wrestler, should he pass away, would make the coverage of the shocking and tragic news this week of the passing of Eddie Guerrero look minor by comparison, due to his credentials.

-- This has been my first news post since the passing of Eddie Guerrero, and I would like to personally send my condolences to Eddie’s family and friends, both in and out of wrestling.



Credit: WrestlingExposed (http://www.wrestlingexposed.com)

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:09 PM
wow... I wonder who it is?

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:10 PM
For some reason i'm thinkin Angle, Taker or HBK... but I could be wrong.

The Greater Power
11-16-2005, 11:11 PM
Or this could be some sick way Keller gets us to suscribe to his newsletter...?

Skippord
11-16-2005, 11:12 PM
Fuck BAD WEEK BAD WEEK could it be HHH

Skippord
11-16-2005, 11:13 PM
Ric Flair
Hulk Hogan
Mick Foley
RVD
Benoit
Taker

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:13 PM
I was thinking Benoit, but I hardly doubt he would make Guerrero's death seem minor in comparison...

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:14 PM
- In the latest PWTorch newsletter, editor Wade Keller states quite bluntly that there is apparently a top wrestler wrestling in the WWE today who?s considered to be on an ?unofficial death watch?.

Hulk Hogan
Mick Foley

Couldnt be those two...

Bad Company
11-16-2005, 11:19 PM
Vader?

BigDaddyCool
11-16-2005, 11:20 PM
Probably won't be Flair because he is like 80 anyhow. Also, I'm willing to bet it isn't Taker because no one really cares (fans anyhow) about him anymore, and it wouldn't be as shocking as Eddie.

It is probably Angle or Linda McMahon.

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:22 PM
I'm seriously thinking its Angle... which would really, really suck sooooo badly. :(

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:24 PM
I don't want it to be Angle... :(

Kapoutman
11-16-2005, 11:29 PM
Take this for what it's worth, but my friend's cousin was backstage at Raw in Montreal a couple of months ago as a medic. Supposedly, Batista's pressure is high and his cholesterol is through the roof. Not sure if it's true, but that's what he said. Don't quote me on that, as it might not even be him.

Splaya
11-16-2005, 11:29 PM
God, who could it be

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:32 PM
Kapoutman, I'm not doubting you.. but they said it would make Eddies death seem minor, Eddie was more well known then Batista is, So I don't think it could be him... well atleast I hope it's not him, Shit I hope it's not anyone... First Eddie now this...

Kapoutman
11-16-2005, 11:34 PM
Kapoutman, I'm not doubting you.. but they said it would make Eddies death seem minor, Eddie was more well known then Batista is, So I don't think it could be him... well atleast I hope it's not him, Shit I hope it's not anyone... First Eddie now this...
I did say don't quote me on that. It's just that what he said seemed to go along woth what was posted.

Funky Fly
11-16-2005, 11:40 PM
Shit, someone get Batista some lipitor and Cheerios.

BigDaddyCool
11-16-2005, 11:41 PM
But then again, this could be shit stirring sensationalism for adverse gain. Plus, there isn't much we can do from this end, now is there?

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:42 PM
This really sucks if another wrestler dies this week...

Gertner
11-16-2005, 11:42 PM
maybe big vis? vis= ratings considering he's kind of old and always has been fat

BigDaddyCool
11-16-2005, 11:43 PM
maybe big vis? vis= ratings considering he's kind of old and always has been fat

Yeah but, it wouldn't be that much of a shock.

Volchok
11-16-2005, 11:46 PM
Everyone pray for Angle.. He can't die on us...

PullMyFinger
11-16-2005, 11:47 PM
Big Show?

Evil Vito
11-16-2005, 11:47 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit :|

Please let this not be as bad as it sounds</font> :|

PullMyFinger
11-16-2005, 11:52 PM
Shawn Michaels?!?!?!?

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Oh God.

The Naitch
11-16-2005, 11:55 PM
Suge Knight is after John Cena

RemyRed
11-16-2005, 11:57 PM
It's fake.

Dellaspro
11-17-2005, 12:06 AM
I don't think the PWTorch would just make up a rumor like this.

If the rumor is true, it is definately Kurt Angle. His sister died from angina around the time he had his Iron Man match with Brock Lesnar, so angina runs in his family. Angina is heart condition that basically overworks your heart and makes you more prone to heart failure.

Not to mention the fact that it says its a top star and mentions box office receipts, afterall, Angle is main eventing Survivor Series. It says it would make Eddie Guerrero's death look minor, and Angle is an olympic gold medalist for the USA, so the news media would cover it more. RAW is in Europe today, just finished a show in Germany with HBK vs. Angle, so with the increase in travelling/flying, all the shit his body as went through over the years, may have caught up to him and now they are realizing something is wrong.

Corkscrewed
11-17-2005, 12:10 AM
See, when I read "death watch" I think "suicide watch," (since that's what they call it in prison). And if that's the case, that's quite scary.

On the other hand, if it's just a matter of "wrestler with a health risk," that's still kinda scary because we all know things can pop up w/o warning.

This is just weird. I kinda hope it IS a hoax (even if it's from a reputable source), because the alternative is obviously much worse. But if it IS a hoax, that's also pretty sick.

I'm not going to even bother speculating, but I wouldn't wish death upon anyone, not Hogan, not HHH, not Hardcore Holly... (lol, I just noticed a trend among the "most hated").

Anyway, yeah.

James Steele
11-17-2005, 12:11 AM
NO GOD DAMN IT! NO!

Mr. JL
11-17-2005, 12:38 AM
I'm thinking its Ric Flair, Kurt Angle or Batista. I just hope if this is true that someone acts upon it, because the way the Torch says it leads me to believe that this can be avoided if the proper steps are taken.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 12:43 AM
Suge Knight is after John Cena

I thought he only attacked black men who could RAP.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 12:46 AM
See, when I read "death watch" I think "suicide watch," (since that's what they call it in prison). And if that's the case, that's quite scary. \

Death Watch and Suicide Watch are different.

A Death watch is when you believe someone to be on their last legs, quite literally.

Suicide watch is when you think someone might hang themself with their own drawers.

Skippord
11-17-2005, 12:47 AM
I thought he only attacked black men who could RAP.

Yeah Watch the fuck out Shelton

Joey Slugs
11-17-2005, 12:50 AM
has there been any other news on this yet?

Dorkchop
11-17-2005, 12:51 AM
I really hope it's no one. Regadless if it's Angle or Funaki. It's horrible either way.

Joey Slugs
11-17-2005, 12:54 AM
if something else happens this week, it very well could be the darkest week in wrestling's history.

Joey Slugs
11-17-2005, 01:00 AM
the scary thing about the story is the disclaimer:

Significant thought went into this article before we decided to post it here on the website, not only in light of the events of the past week but because of the nature of the article itself. Details of the situation are limited, personal, and of a sensitive nature. However, since many in WWE are aware of the situation described below, and the story has also been reported elsewhere, we ultimately decided to post it in the spirit of open journalism. If the sory had been an unsubstantiated rumor, it would not have been posted.

Corkscrewed
11-17-2005, 01:08 AM
Death Watch and Suicide Watch are different.

A Death watch is when you believe someone to be on their last legs, quite literally.

Suicide watch is when you think someone might hang themself with their own drawers.

Oh. I honestly always thought they were used interchangeably.

That's definitely scary, then, because to be in that state of exhaustion... wow.



In that case, it could also be HBK, since it's very probable that's he's worked all this time not really caring about his body. I know he even said once in an interview something about not bothering to go to doctors after coming back, because he doesn't want to be told he can't work anymore or something like that.

Scary stuff, if this is indeed turn out to be true (which seems that way so far). Hope whoever it is gets some time off and the proper treatment.

Joey Slugs
11-17-2005, 01:10 AM
Scary stuff, if this is indeed turn out to be true (which seems that way so far). Hope whoever it is gets some time off and the proper treatment.

The problem with the "death watch" is that the time for rest and treatment might be long gone now. Too little, too late kinda thing.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 01:34 AM
The problem with the "death watch" is that the time for rest and treatment might be long gone now. Too little, too late kinda thing.

IS long gone. Not might be. A death Watch is more or less he time where medicines and the like are failing, and hope is about all you have.

My thoughts and prayers are withwhoever it is (And I'm not even goiing to speculate...Whether it's Hunter or Angle, jobber or main eventer)

BlackDawn2024
11-17-2005, 02:42 AM
Jesus Christ, is wrestling going to take another hit? Eddie was bad enough(R.I.P. :wavesad: ). I don't care who it is, Angle, JBL, Hunter, anyone, whoever it is, I don't want anyone else going.

Corkscrewed
11-17-2005, 03:06 AM
Well, I'm just hoping the term "death watch" is being applied a little too liberally, because to think that another wrestler may be gone within a few days or weeks is just chilling.

Destor
11-17-2005, 03:30 AM
Gossip; they're only trying to capitalize on recent events.

RGWhat316
11-17-2005, 04:07 AM
God, I hope this isn't true. It's bad enough losing Eddie this week, and I dont know if we can take another one. And with Test's comments saying that he wouldn't be surprised if someone else passes on within the next year. The future is not looking good.

RP
11-17-2005, 04:35 AM
I'll miss Ric Flair =(

CYCLOPTERSAURUS
11-17-2005, 04:51 AM
I don't think any wrestler could make Eddie's passing look "minor" due to "credentials", particularly since Eddie was a main eventer, former world champion and multiple title holder. The only person with credentials that could be considered to be significantly more important would be Angle I would think.

Anyway, I would think that whoever it is, if it's that serious, they shouldn't be wrestling or traveling with WWE at all, but spending time with loved ones.

Has anybody actually seen this article in PWTorch? Or at least vouch for "WrestlingExposed"'s credibility?

BlackDawn2024
11-17-2005, 05:06 AM
Has anybody actually seen this article in PWTorch? Or at least vouch for "WrestlingExposed"'s credibility?

I can vouch for WrestlingExposed. They're spot on 99.9% of the time. Very reliable site.

Chavo Classic
11-17-2005, 05:23 AM
It's Austin. The man's liver must have more holes than swiss cheese

Evil Vito
11-17-2005, 06:40 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Looking back over the article (mentioning the wrestler's credentials), it really sounds like Angle :(

If Eddie AND Angle went down in one week, I dunno if I could bring myself to keep watching :(

As I said earlier, I hope the article isn't really as bad as it sounds. I don't want ANYONE else going...</font>

Savio
11-17-2005, 07:32 AM
I thought he only attacked black men who could RAP.Uh KK he did attack Vanilla ICE
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Anyways it Brian Kendrick whos on death watch

Savio
11-17-2005, 07:48 AM
I know its not Matt Hardy though cuz HE WILL NOT DIE!

Impact!
11-17-2005, 08:09 AM
Its Matt Striker, thats what happens when you piss off Hardcore Holly




:shifty:

PorkSoda
11-17-2005, 08:42 AM
I know its not Matt Hardy though cuz HE WILL NOT DIE!

DAMNIT! I was going to say that :(

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 09:32 AM
Uh KK he did attack Vanilla ICE

Are you saying VI's not black? :wtf:

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 10:00 AM
Anyway, I'm hoping that this is horribly blown out of proportion, as someone has said before. Maybe "Death Watch" was someone else's spin on it, or the like.

Xero
11-17-2005, 10:02 AM
When I first read this, my mind immediately went to Taker for some reason. But now that someone mentioned Angle's sister with heart disease... My God. If Angle were to die anytime soon the wrestling industry would collapse. Losing two main event wrestlers in less than a year would be bad enough (not saying any other death/wrestling death is any less important), but losing two guys like Eddie AND Angle...

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 10:08 AM
Yeah, two of their top stars in a matter of days would be horrendous.

Cool King
11-17-2005, 10:20 AM
Well I think I know who it might be. I'll just write a list of the wrestlers I think it is and why it would over shadow Eddie's Death(R.I.P).

HBK (The guy as been in the WWE for a very long time, He has won loads of Titles and he's famous for the Montreal Incident.)

Angle (He won an Olyimpic Medal for America, He's also the first and only gold medalist in the WWE)

Undertaker (The Guys a legend, 'nuff said)

HHH (He's the #1 Heel in the WWE, and he's married to the bosses daughter)

Benoit (He's Eddie's best friend, and it would be over shadow Eddie's death because first Eddie died, then his best friend dies.)

Austin (He's been drinking one hell of alot for years, and Chavo Classic might be ring about his liver)

Flair (See Taker)

Hogan (See Taker and Flair)

Vince (He owns the damn company! And he's the only guy not to know about the Death Watch. You wouldn't tell someone that your gonna be watching them because they might die soon.)

addy2hotty
11-17-2005, 10:28 AM
It's got to be Kurt. No-one else makes sense. Fuck, he's let his marriage die for the sake of the buisness, he's let his relationship with his young daughter flounder for the same reason. If he's willing to sacrifice those things, then his health will not be an issue at all.

I just hope that he's seen whats happened to Eddie, and realises that after SS, he should take a long long break from it all. If he wants one last WM match next year, then I'd say let him have it.

Kurt could quite possibly be the best in-ring performer of all time. I don't want, and I hope to hell Vince doesn't want to have to see another tribute show to a talent who has given so much. Simply because he didn't want to say 'stop'.

And the reason why it would be more in the media? He's a US gold medallist of course, and the story of him winning the Gold was one of the stories of the 1996 Olympics. Damn, we heard the story in the UK that year.

snakeboss
11-17-2005, 10:48 AM
Kurt isn't that greater than Eddie, so I doubt it's Kurt because Eddie's death really shouldn't be seen as minor compared to Kurt's.
I'm thinking either:
Hulk Hogan.
Ric Flair.
Mick Foley.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 10:57 AM
Kurt isn't that greater than Eddie, so I doubt it's Kurt because Eddie's death really shouldn't be seen as minor compared to Kurt's.
I'm thinking either:
Hulk Hogan.
Ric Flair.
Mick Foley.

Because it's not like who is "greater" is subjective or anything, or like some people might actually revere Angle over Eddie because he won a gold medal in the Olympics (With a broken freakin' neck, no less).

KingofOldSchool
11-17-2005, 11:53 AM
I'm not even going to begin to think about it.

VonErich Lives
11-17-2005, 12:03 PM
I get a kick out of how everyone is taking wild gusses on who it is and why, yet everyone got all pissy when some people guessed Eddie died from Roids (no, he died from other drugs).

NoRoolz
11-17-2005, 12:12 PM
Fuck. I really hope this is B/S :(. Angle does seem likely, although I could see someone like Cena or Orton on deathwatch, because they would be a huge shock, and due to them being so young, and Cena as number 1, it would be as big a shock as Eddie (I refuse to say a bigger shock).

Now I don't want to wish death on anybody, and pray this is all a hoax.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 12:47 PM
I get a kick out of how everyone is taking wild gusses on who it is and why, yet everyone got all pissy when some people guessed Eddie died from Roids (no, he died from other drugs).

When he's right, he's right.

RP
11-17-2005, 01:46 PM
Well I think I know who it might be. I'll just write a list of the wrestlers I think it is and why it would over shadow Eddie's Death(R.I.P).

HBK (The guy as been in the WWE for a very long time, He has won loads of Titles and he's famous for the Montreal Incident.)

Angle (He won an Olyimpic Medal for America, He's also the first and only gold medalist in the WWE)

Undertaker (The Guys a legend, 'nuff said)

HHH (He's the #1 Heel in the WWE, and he's married to the bosses daughter)

Benoit (He's Eddie's best friend, and it would be over shadow Eddie's death because first Eddie died, then his best friend dies.)

Austin (He's been drinking one hell of alot for years, and Chavo Classic might be ring about his liver)

Flair (See Taker)

Hogan (See Taker and Flair)

Vince (He owns the damn company! And he's the only guy not to know about the Death Watch. You wouldn't tell someone that your gonna be watching them because they might die soon.)


So basically you know dick?

RGWhat316
11-17-2005, 01:46 PM
Damn, I really got a bad feeling on Angle. I've read his book and about how many injuries he even got during the olympics. Now he's had almost 6 years of WWE bumps and bruises on him as well. Not to mention he had temporarily neck surgery that only kept him out 3 months. I'm a bigger Angle fan than I was Eddie, so if we lose Kurt. I dunno, don't even want to think about it.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 01:47 PM
Wrestling is the gayest sport on the planet. What wrestling fan doesn't know dick?

Xero
11-17-2005, 01:49 PM
Wrestling is the gayest sport on the planet. What wrestling fan doesn't know dick?
Most lesbians...

Just John
11-17-2005, 01:51 PM
I really hope this isn't true, I just...dunno, I dont want this to happen at all

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 03:01 PM
Most lesbians...

There are lesbian wrestling fans? They must be the dumbest fucks in the world. ;)

Narrowly edging out Sadistic.

Volare
11-17-2005, 03:22 PM
so that's why WWE has some of the gayest tag teams

RP
11-17-2005, 03:26 PM
This is the dumbest thread i've ever read.

I bet there is nothing wrong with anyone in the WWE. Everyone thinks they know something all of a sudden. Get fucking lives.

Funky Fly
11-17-2005, 03:31 PM
This isn't casual, man. You can get banned here for pushing buttons with such a touchy subject.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 03:35 PM
This is the dumbest thread i've ever read.

I bet there is nothing wrong with anyone in the WWE. Everyone thinks they know something all of a sudden. Get fucking lives.

2 weeks ago, you could have said the same thing. And then, almost a week ago, we lost Eddie. No telling how many ticking time bombs we have in the WWE. And honestly, without any real information one way or another, speculation either way is pretty stupid.

RP
11-17-2005, 03:45 PM
This isn't casual, man. You can get banned here for pushing buttons with such a touchy subject.

You know what. I dont give a shit. People saying what Kurt Angle should do with his life, because they think its him that some stupid wrestling site is speculating about possibly dying? Thats retarded.

RP
11-17-2005, 03:46 PM
I'm not pushing buttons. I'm telling it like it is. I'm not gunna paint my opinions pretty so no ones feelins are hurt.

Destor
11-17-2005, 03:49 PM
Gossip; they're only trying to capitalize on recent events.
Yeah, what I said.

Schoenauer
11-17-2005, 03:58 PM
What if we're all wrong and it's somebody like Trish Stratus?

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 04:17 PM
What if we're all wrong and it's somebody like Trish Stratus?

The only thing bigger than Eddie abuot Trish is her bra size (And the number of teenagers that want to fuck her)

RP
11-17-2005, 04:36 PM
and probably her vagina

JTB31
11-17-2005, 05:10 PM
Kurt Angle did seem extra emotional Monday Night and that did surprise me abit.I guess it could be possible that not only was he grieving Eddie's death but he may of alse been worried about his own life.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 05:13 PM
Kurt Angle did seem extra emotional Monday Night and that did surprise me abit.I guess it could be possible that not only was he grieving Eddie's death but he may of alse been worried about his own life.

Dude, pointless.

Kurt was choked up because one of his peers died.

RP
11-17-2005, 05:16 PM
Its amazing. One wrestler dies and all of a sudden everyone becomes a psychic/ doctor.

Destor
11-17-2005, 05:17 PM
Don't make me quote myself again.

JTB31
11-17-2005, 05:17 PM
True but it seemed even moreso than the others except for Benoit.But it could be that Angle is just a very emotional guy.

TerranRich
11-17-2005, 05:26 PM
He cried when he won the championship belt. He cries. No big deal.

Destor
11-17-2005, 05:29 PM
He cried when he won the gold medal as well.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 05:54 PM
Its amazing. One wrestler dies and all of a sudden everyone becomes a psychic/ doctor.

I can't see why people would accuse you of stirring the pot.

G-wrath
11-17-2005, 07:39 PM
I'm thinkin Flair, HBK or Taker, since they're all gettin up there in age. Remember, Eddie died young, so it could really be ANYONE. I really hope whoever this person is, they won't kick the bucket for a loooong time. I'm still having issues with coping with Eddie's death.

Corkscrewed
11-17-2005, 09:23 PM
Its amazing. One wrestler dies and all of a sudden everyone becomes a psychic/ doctor.

It's amazing. One wrestler dies and Rectal Pertruder somehow manages to show his head even further up his own ass/rectum.

RP
11-17-2005, 09:38 PM
I can't see why people would accuse you of stirring the pot.

Please enlighten me on how i'm stirring pot?

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 10:14 PM
Please enlightenme on how you're not?

Pete
11-18-2005, 12:39 AM
oooh, good answer KK, very primary school playground.

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 12:42 AM
oooh, good answer KK, very primary school playground.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise I needed to justify the blatantly obvious to the first graders. Do you need a hand?

Pepsi Man
11-18-2005, 12:55 AM
Yeah, honestly, when I first read this story at prowrestling.com, the first thing I thought of was capitalizing on Eddie's death, and if this IS that (which I'm leaning towards), it's sick.

We heard nothing about anyone being on a "death watch" until Eddie Guerrero died, and now all of a sudden, people are getting on their high horse and saying who should be doing what, and prescribing time off. I just hope no one on the active roster dies within the next six months to a year, even moreso than normal, simply for the sake of disproving this little article. (I'm well aware that it can't be disproven by a sudden death happening in the near future anymore than it can be proven by a death occurring, and then someone saying, "That was the guy!"

RaginRonic
11-18-2005, 01:09 AM
You know, I'm one of those wrestling fans that's caught in the 'no-man's-land' of having both mark and smark views on pro wrestling/sports-entertainment.

It's like, I know about the realities of wrestling, but still, even though it's weird to talk about today, still believe in this good/bad-black/white perception of wrestlers that existed until 1996 in WCW, and 1998 in WWF/WWE.

And, for the sake of total transparency here, I'm not a Kurt Angle fan right now. :|

But when I read that piece on Kurt that appeared in an earlier thread, I started to get a little bit worried about him too. I really don't want to see Kurt Thomas Angle wnd up in the ring obituary column anytime soon.

I was extremely saddened when guys like Rude, Bulldog, Pillman, fellow Canuck Owen, Miss Liz, Candido, BossMan, LOD's Hawk, and now, most recently, Eddie passed away. I just don't really want to see Kurt placed in the same category as the above names.

I hope and pray that Kurt can swallow his pride, tell his ego to fuck off for a while, and get some damn treatment and rest, if it is indeed Kurt involved in this 'DeathWatch'. :mad:

I don't want to have to watch a Kurt Angle Tribute Show anytime soon, if at all anymore. I've grown tired of crying inside when looking at pictures of recently deceased wrestlers/entertainers. :(

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 01:36 AM
You know, I'm one of those wrestling fans that's caught in the 'no-man's-land' of having both mark and smark views on pro wrestling/sports-entertainment.

No you're not.

Sit down, shut the fuck up, and realise how unique you ain't.

The Naitch
11-18-2005, 01:54 AM
lol

Sting Fan
11-18-2005, 02:30 AM
lol, Pwned

Schoenauer
11-18-2005, 04:14 AM
I'm not a Kurt Angle fan right now. :|
I bet you ain't an Angle fan because he's a heel.

#1-norm-fan
11-18-2005, 04:23 AM
Whether this thing is BS or not, I'm upset.

Now, what if nothing happens? How long until the "deathwatch" is over? Could be months. That means either something else like Eddie is going to happen again soon or there's going to be constant worrying for the next several weeks that it will happen. This officially sucks now, fake or not. :mad:

Pete
11-18-2005, 04:30 AM
I'm sorry, I didn't realise I needed to justify the blatantly obvious to the first graders. Do you need a hand?


Oooh cutting :'(

The Gooch
11-18-2005, 07:56 AM
Kurt Angle did seem extra emotional Monday Night and that did surprise me abit.I guess it could be possible that not only was he grieving Eddie's death but he may of alse been worried about his own life.

I don't doubt many of the wrestlers crying may not have even liked Eddie.

The death of Eddie serves as a reality check for many of them. Those living the life of drugs, steriods, pain killers all got to see what they may be looking forward to because of their lifestyle choices. Sadly some of these lifestyle choices exist because the nature of the business.

Personally I feel pretty disgusted even discussing the possibility of who this article is talking about given that Eddie's death proves that you never know who is on borrowed time.

Pinnacle Charisma
11-18-2005, 08:56 AM
I think it is Angle. Many of his close ones over the years have passed away (his coach, one of his sisters and another family member who I cannot remember) and his is separated from his wife and kids. He was close to Eddie and this could be the last straw.

But this would be very low if the source is just making it up

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 10:02 AM
Oooh cutting :'(

:kiss:

hb2k
11-18-2005, 10:50 AM
It's a horrible thought for sure. But honestly, nobody, outside of Vince and maybe Ric Flair, will make Eddie's tragic death seem "minor". And even then...

samichna
11-18-2005, 12:57 PM
I doubt it's Flair, and I seriously hope those words don't come back to bite me in the ass.

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 01:25 PM
Flair will live to be 200, and will be remembered not just as a 16 time WCW champ, but also as the man that held the IC title for 50 years straight.

Come on, if that bastard has survived this long, he's not going down. Period.

Fubar28
11-18-2005, 01:44 PM
I think it is Angle. Many of his close ones over the years have passed away (his coach, one of his sisters and another family member who I cannot remember) and his is separated from his wife and kids. He was close to Eddie and this could be the last straw.

But this would be very low if the source is just making it up

I agree with you. If anybody (besides Flair) is close to death it's Angle. Hell if he gets out of bed wrong he will probably end up like Christopher Reeves. I have always picked Angel to be the wrestler who would die in the ring during a match (If that was to ever happen in the wwe).

Splaya
11-18-2005, 01:50 PM
From wrestleview.com



According to recent reports, there is said to be a top wrestler in WWE today who many consider to be on the "unofficial death watch" whose death, due to his credentials, would make news coverage of Guerrero's death this past week look very minor in comparison. It is said to be no secret to those in WWE about this current top wrestler's situation and if it isn't something that has been made aware to Vince McMahon by now, many are lobbying to the higher-ups that the current system needs to be changed and changed fast. Says one WWE source, "It's one thing to show how much you care about a colleague by crying on the air after he dies. It's another to care enough about someone to do what it takes while he's alive to keep him from dying - even at the expense of box office receipts, storyline interruptions, and being deemed pushy, nosy, or a nark."

Splaya
11-18-2005, 01:52 PM
The part that I underlined was the one that sent chills down my spine. It instantly made me think Angle

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 02:05 PM
It's a horrible thought for sure. But honestly, nobody, outside of Vince and maybe Ric Flair, will make Eddie's tragic death seem "minor". And even then...

COVERAGE of his death, not his death.

Think about this. Eddie G. was not a household name. If someone like Austin or Hogan died, it would get bigger coverage than Eddie, even if Eddie had the title and a News Show program and his own line of products.

Who would get bigger media coverage? Any of the big household names. That would include people like Triple H or Cena or anyone with any major crossover appeal on any level. They're not talking about what Eddie means to us, they are talking about what will sell papers and primetime footage and biographies and all that shit that we do to thoroughly rip a dead celebrity a new one.

In other words, think of it this way:

Eddie: A great wrestler.

Hogan(As an example, shut the fuck up on speculation): a celebrity.

RGWhat316
11-18-2005, 02:07 PM
Regardless of who it is, I still don't like that almost any superstar could be next. We have gone over 6 years since an active competitor passed on. We certainly don't need 2 in just a few weeks.

RP
11-18-2005, 02:15 PM
That last line makes me think Triple H is up to his old games /smark mode off.

samichna
11-18-2005, 02:16 PM
Come on, if that bastard has survived this long, he's not going down. Period.

Exactly what I was thinking. :lol:

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 02:28 PM
The part that I underlined was the one that sent chills down my spine. It instantly made me think Angle

Okay, I know you folks are all totally retarded, but did it ever occur to you that there were many superstars who were crying? By this logic, Lillian Garcia could be the victim of this "Unnofficial Deathwatch."

Seriously, this is getting totally stupid. Speculation's bad enough, but when we're talking about how Anfgle crying makes you think of his specifically, you've gone way over the edge into severe stupidity.

McLegend
11-18-2005, 02:40 PM
:y:

Gertner
11-18-2005, 02:49 PM
good lord, are you people ever jumping to conclusions. just chill.

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 02:54 PM
If you could save a life or mourn a death, which would you do?

That's all the article said. It's one thing to show respect or to mourn, it's another to save someone's life.

Fubar28
11-18-2005, 03:03 PM
Okay, I know you folks are all totally retarded, but did it ever occur to you that there were many superstars who were crying? By this logic, Lillian Garcia could be the victim of this "Unnofficial Deathwatch."

To me if it was someone depressed over Eddie it would say "suicide watch" or something to that nature. Then again i don't know if thats what some were getting at or not, & I also know this makes too much sense for others.

Corkscrewed
11-18-2005, 03:44 PM
I heard it's Dusty Rhodes because he's fat.

:shifty:

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 04:01 PM
To me if it was someone depressed over Eddie it would say "suicide watch" or something to that nature. Then again i don't know if thats what some were getting at or not, & I also know this makes too much sense for others.

Very good, you've established what I said on like page one. You're fucking brilliant. You, sir, get a cookie.

Cooler Tom Schuler
11-18-2005, 05:43 PM
The part that I underlined was the one that sent chills down my spine. It instantly made me think Angle

You completely misunderstood the quote there.

Skippord
11-19-2005, 01:57 AM
Its Kurt

Skippord
11-19-2005, 01:59 AM
http://forums.horrorcore.com/showthr...pagenumber=167

The Naitch
11-19-2005, 02:05 AM
the page could not be found. thank you

Skippord
11-19-2005, 02:06 AM
Thats what I get for not clicking the link before I put it up

Skippord
11-19-2005, 02:10 AM
Quote:
On August 29th of 1985, a typical American man was hard at work on a construction site in rural Pennsylvania, perched high in the air like a bird. It was a typical summer afternoon, and with autumn drawing near he was looking forward to the relief those months would bring.

Unfortunately, for some people, the autumn never comes.

In life, a fraction of a second can ripple for eternity. He knew that he had lost balance, but he didn't have time to think about it. He was crashing to the ground. His head hit concrete first. Both of his shoulders broke instantly. His skull was cracked in three places. Lesser things would have killed any other man, but not him. He picked his broken body off the ground and began the longest walk of his life. When he arrived, he checked himself into the hospital.

No one could ever tell him that he wasn't tough. And no one could ever tell him that he wasn't determined.

On August 31st, two days later, the man was pronounced dead in the same hospital.

David Angle was 55 years old, and he couldn't take his pride with him.

Twenty-four hours later, his son Kurt wasn't listening to those who were telling him not to play in the varsity football game that afternoon. Kurt thrived to overcome all things, even his father's death. Sixteen solo tackles, two touchdowns and one interception later, Kurt walked off the field after the best football game that he would ever play, feeling proud.

Little did Kurt know that he would some day be carrying his own broken body to the hospital, and positioning himself to follow in his father's footsteps of living proud, and regretfully probably dying young.

"I just wanted to talk a little bit about him, and what he meant to me. When he was on, he was the best wrestler in the business. He may have even been the best ever. He showed me a lot of things, and said a lot of things that not only helped me professionally, but personally. He cared about everybody, he loved everybody. I love you, and I'll miss you".

Kurt Angle made these comments, fighting back tears, in the wake of Eddie Guerrero's tragic death. Sadly, these comments aren't that different than those that could made about Angle himself one emotional Monday evening if he doesn't make make a drastic change immediately.

Less than eight hours after Vince McMahon and Chavo Guerrero addressed the media at a press conference in Minneapolis in regards to Guerrero's death, a broken down Kurt Angle landed on his head after taking one of the most dangerous offensive maneuvers of his career from the top rope. Like his father, Angle is tough, determined and proud. Like his former mentor and fellow Olympic medallist David Schultz, Angle is tough, determined and proud. At 36 years old, there is a good chance Kurt Angle can outlive his mentor Schultz, who was murdered in 1996 at the age of 37. At the rate Kurt Angle is going, outliving his father may be his toughest battle to date.

His checklist reads like an almanac of worst case scenarios. Nerve damage to his face. Six knee surgeries. A broken neck. Torn muscles. Bone chips removed from his upper spine. Destroyed ligaments. Dislocated shoulders. Several years ago, Angle said to the press with pride, "Look at my face. It looks like I have aged fifteen years in the last five." Angle can no longer hear out of his left ear. It has been drained 80 times.

When training for the Olympics, Kurt Angle pushed his body to the point of insanity. "I'd train so ferociously some days that I would make myself sick". That training makes getting out of bed today even difficult according to Angle, as he broke his body down at a very young age.

Five months before the 1996 Olympics, Kurt Angle cracked two vertebrae and pulled four muscles in his back, causing two herniated discs to stab into his spinal cord. The pain was intense. Doctors told him that he risked paralysis competing, but Kurt was proud. Mepivacaine was the painkiller that Kurt Angle chose, and for the next half of a year he took it constantly to make training, and eventually winning a gold medal possible. Hunched over in tears, Angle had defied paralysis and proved himself as the best amateur wrestler in the world. He wished his father would have been there to see it.

Nine years later, Kurt was in his fourth as a WWE wrestler. In an eerily similar scenario, Kurt Angle's neck was destroyed in early 2003, and he was advised not to compete in the main event of Wrestlemania 19. Maybe it was the backflip that he attempted from the top of a steel cage, fifteen feet in the air on January 14th of that year. It was a move that could end a career if the slightest thing went wrong, but in the all-or-nothing fashion typical to Angle, he went big. The result was the most graceful moonsault imaginable, and as Kurt hung upside down in the air high above the arena, time seemed to stand still for just an instant before his knees hit the mat in a landing that could not have been any more perfect. Angle had wagered his body for glory, and come out on top yet again.

But how long could he keep getting lucky? He was willing to roll the dice one more time at Wrestlemania of that year, deciding to step into the ring and face Brock Lesnar in a match that would solidify his legacy, or paralyze him for life. Angle not only stared down death, but taunted it, taking dangerous drops on his neck and shoulders before passing the World Championship to Brock Lesnar. The 54,097 fans in attendance roared in approval of Kurt flying around the ring. Kurt's wife Karen and newborn daughter Kyra probably had different reactions.

For 240 days a year, Kurt Angle wakes up in a bed that doesn't belong to him. In hotel rooms all over America, Canada, Japan and Europe. His Coraopolis, Pennsylvania home, his BMW and his family are things he seldom has the time to see. Several years ago he stated in an interview that the only way he could continue to wrestle was through the heavy use of painkillers. In 2005, Kurt Angle is going harder than ever.

In an interview with Kurt Angle and his wife Karen several years ago, Angle stated that the only time he ever physically felt 100% was right before a match when his adrenaline took over. Kurt continued "But after that, I'm right back down to the bottom again. It sucks, because if I want to play with Kyra... (Kurt looks to his daughter playing in the next room)...sometimes I just can't do it".

Karen Angle spoke: "If he gets to the point where he really can't play with her, that will be it. No matter what you have in your house, no matter how good your life is, you can't give that up. If that's what happens, that's when I'll put my foot down and make him stop."

At that moment, Kurt Angle smiled, "I'll never stop" he finished.

Kurt Angle's marriage ended several months ago, devastating him personally. He is a proud man, and wrestling is something that he is dedicated to, and excellence is his obsession. Tired of wondering if he would be in a wheelchair in a few years, as Karen Angle has publicly wondered, she opted to separate from Kurt over the summer, and their marriage never made it to the autumn.

Kurt Angle has made it clear in the past that he will settle for nothing less than being remembered as the best of all time. But is that distinction worth his life? To Kurt, a proud man like his father, it might very well be.

Kurt's physical changes over the past half-decade are shocking. His head has increased in size dramatically, which may or may not point to use of Human Growth Hormone. Angle has suffered concussions, and has major nerve damage as a result of his neck problems. His triceps appear to be on the verge of atrophy, and one of Angle's biceps is noticeably larger than the other. Kurt Angle has a history of heart disease in his family. He has a glassy look in his eyes, and is a self-admitted user of painkillers. And he shows no signs of slowing down. As a training partner once said of Kurt Angle, "He doesn't have an off switch".

Estranged from his family, Kurt Angle is said to be more focused on being the best in wrestling than he ever has been. But how many times can Kurt Angle keep rolling the dice before his luck runs out? I don't know if World Wrestling Entertainment can continue to allow him to try.

Kurt Angle doesn't need wrestling. He has made millions and has nothing left to prove, at least not to his fans. He could stay another few years, maybe end up with permanent damage to 10% of his brain like his idol Bret Hart. Or he could move on with is life, make a new career out of motivational speaking, acting. Maybe amatuer wrestling seminars.

Kurt Angle has proven in the past that pride is more important to him than anything however. It has cost him his health, it has cost him his family, and at the rate he is going, sooner rather than later, he too may find himself dragging his dying body to the hospital when doctors can no longer help, and his pride may cost him his life. Sadly, it may already have. And Kurt won't be able to take his pride with him either.

The person most qualified to speak, Kurt's long time wife Karen, spoke best when she said, "I don't think what he's doing to himself is worth it".

The Naitch
11-19-2005, 02:13 AM
Damn, seeing Kurt do Mania 19 was crazy. Then he went onto to do two more years after that. It's gonna take it's toll

RP
11-19-2005, 02:14 AM
Quote:
On August 29th of 1985, a typical American man was hard at work on a construction site in rural Pennsylvania, perched high in the air like a bird. It was a typical summer afternoon, and with autumn drawing near he was looking forward to the relief those months would bring.

Unfortunately, for some people, the autumn never comes.

In life, a fraction of a second can ripple for eternity. He knew that he had lost balance, but he didn't have time to think about it. He was crashing to the ground. His head hit concrete first. Both of his shoulders broke instantly. His skull was cracked in three places. Lesser things would have killed any other man, but not him. He picked his broken body off the ground and began the longest walk of his life. When he arrived, he checked himself into the hospital.

No one could ever tell him that he wasn't tough. And no one could ever tell him that he wasn't determined.

On August 31st, two days later, the man was pronounced dead in the same hospital.

David Angle was 55 years old, and he couldn't take his pride with him.

Twenty-four hours later, his son Kurt wasn't listening to those who were telling him not to play in the varsity football game that afternoon. Kurt thrived to overcome all things, even his father's death. Sixteen solo tackles, two touchdowns and one interception later, Kurt walked off the field after the best football game that he would ever play, feeling proud.

Little did Kurt know that he would some day be carrying his own broken body to the hospital, and positioning himself to follow in his father's footsteps of living proud, and regretfully probably dying young.

"I just wanted to talk a little bit about him, and what he meant to me. When he was on, he was the best wrestler in the business. He may have even been the best ever. He showed me a lot of things, and said a lot of things that not only helped me professionally, but personally. He cared about everybody, he loved everybody. I love you, and I'll miss you".

Kurt Angle made these comments, fighting back tears, in the wake of Eddie Guerrero's tragic death. Sadly, these comments aren't that different than those that could made about Angle himself one emotional Monday evening if he doesn't make make a drastic change immediately.

Less than eight hours after Vince McMahon and Chavo Guerrero addressed the media at a press conference in Minneapolis in regards to Guerrero's death, a broken down Kurt Angle landed on his head after taking one of the most dangerous offensive maneuvers of his career from the top rope. Like his father, Angle is tough, determined and proud. Like his former mentor and fellow Olympic medallist David Schultz, Angle is tough, determined and proud. At 36 years old, there is a good chance Kurt Angle can outlive his mentor Schultz, who was murdered in 1996 at the age of 37. At the rate Kurt Angle is going, outliving his father may be his toughest battle to date.

His checklist reads like an almanac of worst case scenarios. Nerve damage to his face. Six knee surgeries. A broken neck. Torn muscles. Bone chips removed from his upper spine. Destroyed ligaments. Dislocated shoulders. Several years ago, Angle said to the press with pride, "Look at my face. It looks like I have aged fifteen years in the last five." Angle can no longer hear out of his left ear. It has been drained 80 times.

When training for the Olympics, Kurt Angle pushed his body to the point of insanity. "I'd train so ferociously some days that I would make myself sick". That training makes getting out of bed today even difficult according to Angle, as he broke his body down at a very young age.

Five months before the 1996 Olympics, Kurt Angle cracked two vertebrae and pulled four muscles in his back, causing two herniated discs to stab into his spinal cord. The pain was intense. Doctors told him that he risked paralysis competing, but Kurt was proud. Mepivacaine was the painkiller that Kurt Angle chose, and for the next half of a year he took it constantly to make training, and eventually winning a gold medal possible. Hunched over in tears, Angle had defied paralysis and proved himself as the best amateur wrestler in the world. He wished his father would have been there to see it.

Nine years later, Kurt was in his fourth as a WWE wrestler. In an eerily similar scenario, Kurt Angle's neck was destroyed in early 2003, and he was advised not to compete in the main event of Wrestlemania 19. Maybe it was the backflip that he attempted from the top of a steel cage, fifteen feet in the air on January 14th of that year. It was a move that could end a career if the slightest thing went wrong, but in the all-or-nothing fashion typical to Angle, he went big. The result was the most graceful moonsault imaginable, and as Kurt hung upside down in the air high above the arena, time seemed to stand still for just an instant before his knees hit the mat in a landing that could not have been any more perfect. Angle had wagered his body for glory, and come out on top yet again.

But how long could he keep getting lucky? He was willing to roll the dice one more time at Wrestlemania of that year, deciding to step into the ring and face Brock Lesnar in a match that would solidify his legacy, or paralyze him for life. Angle not only stared down death, but taunted it, taking dangerous drops on his neck and shoulders before passing the World Championship to Brock Lesnar. The 54,097 fans in attendance roared in approval of Kurt flying around the ring. Kurt's wife Karen and newborn daughter Kyra probably had different reactions.

For 240 days a year, Kurt Angle wakes up in a bed that doesn't belong to him. In hotel rooms all over America, Canada, Japan and Europe. His Coraopolis, Pennsylvania home, his BMW and his family are things he seldom has the time to see. Several years ago he stated in an interview that the only way he could continue to wrestle was through the heavy use of painkillers. In 2005, Kurt Angle is going harder than ever.

In an interview with Kurt Angle and his wife Karen several years ago, Angle stated that the only time he ever physically felt 100% was right before a match when his adrenaline took over. Kurt continued "But after that, I'm right back down to the bottom again. It sucks, because if I want to play with Kyra... (Kurt looks to his daughter playing in the next room)...sometimes I just can't do it".

Karen Angle spoke: "If he gets to the point where he really can't play with her, that will be it. No matter what you have in your house, no matter how good your life is, you can't give that up. If that's what happens, that's when I'll put my foot down and make him stop."

At that moment, Kurt Angle smiled, "I'll never stop" he finished.

Kurt Angle's marriage ended several months ago, devastating him personally. He is a proud man, and wrestling is something that he is dedicated to, and excellence is his obsession. Tired of wondering if he would be in a wheelchair in a few years, as Karen Angle has publicly wondered, she opted to separate from Kurt over the summer, and their marriage never made it to the autumn.

Kurt Angle has made it clear in the past that he will settle for nothing less than being remembered as the best of all time. But is that distinction worth his life? To Kurt, a proud man like his father, it might very well be.

Kurt's physical changes over the past half-decade are shocking. His head has increased in size dramatically, which may or may not point to use of Human Growth Hormone. Angle has suffered concussions, and has major nerve damage as a result of his neck problems. His triceps appear to be on the verge of atrophy, and one of Angle's biceps is noticeably larger than the other. Kurt Angle has a history of heart disease in his family. He has a glassy look in his eyes, and is a self-admitted user of painkillers. And he shows no signs of slowing down. As a training partner once said of Kurt Angle, "He doesn't have an off switch".

Estranged from his family, Kurt Angle is said to be more focused on being the best in wrestling than he ever has been. But how many times can Kurt Angle keep rolling the dice before his luck runs out? I don't know if World Wrestling Entertainment can continue to allow him to try.

Kurt Angle doesn't need wrestling. He has made millions and has nothing left to prove, at least not to his fans. He could stay another few years, maybe end up with permanent damage to 10% of his brain like his idol Bret Hart. Or he could move on with is life, make a new career out of motivational speaking, acting. Maybe amatuer wrestling seminars.

Kurt Angle has proven in the past that pride is more important to him than anything however. It has cost him his health, it has cost him his family, and at the rate he is going, sooner rather than later, he too may find himself dragging his dying body to the hospital when doctors can no longer help, and his pride may cost him his life. Sadly, it may already have. And Kurt won't be able to take his pride with him either.

The person most qualified to speak, Kurt's long time wife Karen, spoke best when she said, "I don't think what he's doing to himself is worth it".

Case closed. R.I.P Kurt Angle.

Destor
11-19-2005, 02:18 AM
Its his life; if this is true (and I 'm not saying it is) he has the right to kill himself if he sees fit. His call, not mine.

RP
11-19-2005, 02:24 AM
You dont die from broken bones. You do however die from a combination of heart disease/ Steroid use. I love Kurt Angle. That article doesnt make me thing that Kurt Angle is on " Deathwatch" because everything stated in the article is known info about Kurt. Its only now being brought up because a fellow wrestler has died. I think its over hyped and i think you people just need to calm down.

Killjoy3:16
11-19-2005, 03:11 AM
Listen guys. I don't think anybody is on their 'last legs'. Surely he/she would be in a hospital getting taken care of.

I think that it's highly likely that they are trying to 'wake' somebody up in that WWE locker room. It's likely that it's Angle. Notice it says 'Peers'. From that I get the impression that it's the guys telling Angle to take it easy. I'm sure the death of Eddie has opened everyone's eyes and become more aware of the problems that ended up dooming Eddie.

Kane Knight
11-19-2005, 09:44 AM
http://forums.horrorcore.com/showthr...pagenumber=167

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Well shit, that proves it, there's nothing more to say...

Oh yeah, except...

Shut the fuck up
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Kane Knight
11-19-2005, 09:45 AM
You dont die from broken bones.

Yeah, there's no way for a bone fragment to float up into your brain and kill you. :roll:

Everybody, please give a hand to the amazing retardo!

Funky Fly
11-19-2005, 03:47 PM
Alright, I'm shutting this down.

Funky Fly
11-19-2005, 04:12 PM
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