Official Monday Night RAW™ Thread 11/21/05 - "RAW vs. SmackDown!"

[James Steele]

Batista leads the charge November 21, 2005


With just one week before the Survivor Series pay-per-view, be sure to tune into RAW (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/) tonight on the USA Network (9/8 CT) as Eric Bischoff (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/ericbischoff/) and his Superstars come to you from the United Kingdom.
This week, Team SmackDown (http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/) captain Batista (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/batista/) leads his team of Randy Orton (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/randyorton/), JBL (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/jbl/), Lashley & Rey Mysterio (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/reymysterio/) into RAW. What does The Animal's team have in store for their Survivor Series opponents? Watch RAW to find out.
In what promises to be an instant mat classic, Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/kurtangle/) will take on his former associate Shelton Benjamin (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/sheltonbenjamin/) in one-on-one action. Shelton broke into WWE under Angle's tutelage, but did Angle teach him everything he knows?
Just six days before his showdown with Triple H (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/tripleh/) at Survivor Series, Intercontinental Champion Ric Flair (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/ricflair/) will square off against Trevor Murdoch. Will the "Dirtiest Player in the Game" be able to handle the double-tough former World Tag Team Champion?
Also, Divas will collide when Candice (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/candice/) Michelle goes one on one with Mickie James. Don't miss all this and more tonight at 9/8 CT on the USA Network.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Where is everyone this week? :(

[loopydate]

Good start to the show. That's how you explain away an injury.

[James Steele]

I dunno. I didn't read the spoilers (despite major temptation).

[James Steele]

Good start to the show. That's how you explain away an injury.

Yeah, I think that could give Batista a good amount of time off.


"What's wrong with Batista?"

"He got chokeslammed through a windshield by The Big Show and Kane."

"Oh."

[BigDaddyCool]

gayest start to a Raw yet.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Before the show, Vince thanked the fans on behalf of the Guerrero family, btw

[punt]

They ought to give Murdoch a slogan, like "You got a purty mouth" :D

[BigDaddyCool]

what the hell is that match about?

[Linkbowler]

Just saw Team Sheep's sign.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

what the hell is that match about?

To build up Flair ahead of Sunday. ;)

[Linkbowler]

wow, Flair actually made it off the top.

[punt]

Flair had to have someone to beat, so HHH will come out and do something at the end

[BigDaddyCool]

that raw sucks...probably because the last one was so good. Why couldn't some one else die?

[Linkbowler]

and there's Captain Pissbreak himself.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I actually find HHH entertaining when he's not hogging the title.

[Linkbowler]

Hmm, when he keeps it short, the promos don't totally suck the life out of everything. HINT HINT WRITERS!

[punt]

Oh, don't worry. He will be hogging it again soon enough.

[Savio]

agreed link

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I think I'd actually prefer him to Cena right now.

[BigDaddyCool]

awesome, the wrestling god is about to cut a promo!

[punt]

Nice shirt

[Savio]

I think I'd actually prefer him to Cena right now.I dunno if HHH is champ that takes away the possibility of cena becoming heel soon.

[Linkbowler]

and now a masterpiece that doesn't involve an overblown full nelson...

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Fuck, they didn't show my sign. :mad:

[Linkbowler]

DAMMIT HASSA...ER DAIVARI!

[BigDaddyCool]

greatest ref ever just showed up.

[Linkbowler]

What was the sign?

[loopydate]

:lol: Did Vince really think that Daivari would draw huge heel heat overseas?

[Mike the Metal Ed]

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1448/sany00736dx.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sany00736dx.jpg)

[Linkbowler]

Proboscis, huh? Joey's busting out the 50 cent words tonight.

[Linkbowler]

Holy Crap! That DDT was sick!

[Savio]

Davari makes me miss hassan and his woulda be existant title reign.

[Linkbowler]

When the hell did Daivari learn English?

[BigDaddyCool]

When the hell did Daivari learn English?

He could always speak english, plus farsi.

[Linkbowler]

Did he speak English when he was with Hassan? I thought he only spoke Farsi at that point.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Maria. :heart:

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Did he speak English when he was with Hassan? I thought he only spoke Farsi at that point. He was Hassan's translator. Ergo, he needs to be able to speak English AND Farsi. ;)

[Vazz]

Oh god i'm blind... snitskey.... :|

[The Greater Power]

lol at this segment

[BigDaddyCool]

well at least things picking up...the hell is the boogey man?

[Dorkchop]

DAIVARI IS AWESOME! I'm glad WWE kept him.

The Cena gay jokes aren't funny.

HHH vs Val Venis next. I can't wait to see Venis get the pedigree in 16 seconds.

[KingofOldSchool]

That would've been funny if one of the fans told Cena that he sucked.

[Linkbowler]

That guy can seriously spit some water.

[Johnny Vegas]

What is the point of HHH matches nowadays? <s>HHH & Stephanie</s>The bookers must need someone to fill up time

[Mike the Metal Ed]

That would've been funny if one of the fans told Cena that he sucked.

There were Cena Sucks chants all night, shame this isn't live.

[Dorkchop]

I've noticed Venis is on every Raw they do in Europe.

[Dorkchop]

HHH can't even have a god damn match against Venis.

[KingofOldSchool]

Who let Val get in some offense?

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I've noticed Venis is on every Raw they do in Europe.

I think he likes coming here, so they always give him a match.

[KingofOldSchool]

There were Cena Sucks chants all night, shame this isn't live.

I heard those chants, I just wish someone said that when Cena shoved the microphone in their face.

[Dorkchop]

Candice Michelle vs Mickey James came on just in time for me to feed my cats.

[Skippord]

I think I just filled the cup

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I got bored and just worked out that Val Venis hasn't had a clean, 1 on 1 victory on Raw for 735 days. Shame. :(

[James Steele]

World Wrestling Entertainment - Return of the Venis:
May 18, 2003 - Judgment Day (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/wweppv/judgementday03.html): Val Venis returned to compete in the Intercontinental Battle Royal, but was quickly eliminated..
May 26, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/030526.html): Val Venis defeated Steven Richards with the money shot!
July 7, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/030707.html): Gail Kim & Val Venis defeated Victoria & Steven Richards after Gail pinned Victoria..
November 3, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/031103.html): Lance Storm defeated Rico w/Miss Jackie -- Val Venis stood at ringside watching the match..
November 10, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/031110.html): Val Venis brought two porn stars in and they are happy to see Lance Storm come out of the shower..
November 17, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/031117.html): Val Venis w/Lance Strom defeated Rico w/Miss Jackie (Jackie's breast fell out)..
December 1, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/031201.html): Vel Venis & Lance Storm defeated Rene Dupree & Rob Conway..
December 8, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/031208.html): Mark Jindrak & Garrison Cade defeated Val Venis & Lance Storm..
February 23, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/040223.html): Randy Orton defeated Val Venis in a Non (IC) title match..
April 18, 2004 - Backlash (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/wweppv/backlash04.html): Val Venis defeated Matt Hardy in a match shown on Sunday Night Heat..
April 26, 2004 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/040426.html): Randy Orton defeated Val Venis to retain the IC title in a match taped for HEAT..
May 24, 2004: Val Venis's request to work dates in Puerto Rico was turned down by John Laurinatis..
July 5, 2004 - RAW in Winnipeg (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/040705.html): La Resistance defeated Rhyno & Val Venis in a NON TITLE match..
July 11, 2004 - Vengeance (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/wweppv/vengeance04.html): Tyson Tomko w/Trish Stratus defeated Val Venis w/Nidia in a match shown live on Heat..
~~~After the match, Tyson Tomko threatened Nidia, but Mavan showed up to make the save!
December 27, 2004 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/041227.html): Ric Flair defeated Val Venis in a match taped for HEAT..
January 24, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050124.html): Muhammad Hassan defeated Val Venis in a Royal Rumble Qualifying match..
March 14, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050314.html): Maven & Molly Holly defeated Val Venis & Victoria in a match taped for HEAT..
May 1, 2005 - Backlash (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/wweppv/backlash05.html): Tyson Tomko defeated Val Venis in a match shown live on HEAT..
May 9, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050509.html): Val Venis defeated C.M. Punk in a match taped for HEAT..
May 30, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050530.html): Chris Masters defeated Val Venis in his toughest Masterlock Challenge to date..
June 6, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050606.html): Chris Masters defeated Val Venis in a 1-on-1 match by Masterlock Submission..
July 4, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050704.html): Rene Dupree (who was reaquired by RAW via a trade with SD!) defeated Val Venis...
August 1, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050801.html): Rob "The Conman" Conway defeated Val Venis..
August 15, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050815.html): Edge w/Lita defeated Val Venis (the brother of Edge's FIRST wife)..
August 29, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050829.html): Val Venis & Viscera defeated The Heart Throbs (Antonio & Romeo) in a match taped for HEAT..
September 5, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050905.html): V-squared (Viscera & Val Venis) defeated The Heart Throbs (Antonio & Romeo)..
September 26, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/050919.html): Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch defeated V-squared (Viscera & Val Venis) by Disqualification..
October 17, 2005 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/051017.html): Val Venis & Viscera defeated Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch in a Non-title match (HEAT)..

[KingofOldSchool]

LOL

[James Steele]

May 26, 2003 - RAW (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/results/raw/030526.html): Val Venis defeated Steven Richards with the money shot!


His last 1-on-1 victory on Monday Night RAW.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Since that Stevie Richards match, he holds two victories against Rico, and one against Test. Whether these were truly one on one or not I don't know.

[loopydate]

:roll: Now MNM will be taken off TV since they were dressed in black in England...

[Xerzes]

*Maria appears on screen*
Me: WHY DO YOU STILL HAVE A JOB?!
*Maria moves the microphone to the side*
Me: Oh, right. Those.

[loopydate]

I'd rather watch a Maria interview than a Candice Michelle...anything.

[KingofOldSchool]

Someone needs to tell Masters that the point of him being a lumberjack is too jump his enemy when they get thrown to the outside, not just stand there taking up space.

[Dorkchop]

Lashley and Masters shouldn't be there. At least Lashley has some talent. There better be a stand off between Lashley and Kane.

[V]

i saw someone holding a tpww sign

[Dorkchop]

That JBL big boot was sweet.

[KingofOldSchool]

I marked out like a little bitch when Tista came out.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I wonder why Helms wasn't on. I hope his "push" isn't already over.

[BlackDawn2024]

I marked out like a little bitch when Tista came out.

As did I.

[Corkscrewed]

Surprised there weren't any comments regarding Trish being bound and gagged. Maybe I was the only one who found that hot... :shifty:

[Jaton]

Perhaps I was the only one who found that segment so horrible.

[Dave Youell]

There were Cena Sucks chants all night, shame this isn't live.
Ohhhhh

I thought they were saying CM Punk!

No wonder i was getting some weird looks when I jumped on my chair and did the crossed arm thing

[Londoner]

Wtf, only 2 pages?LOL.Shortest raw thread ever,though it was a good raw i thought.

[Team Sheep]

I guess it doesn't really have the same feeling to it when it's taped.

[Londoner]

Why don't us lot in the UK get it live when its in the uk?It just doesn't make sense...

[Nervous Ferret]

Because then you would be getting it before me, and thats a big nono

[Team Sheep]

If it were up to Sky, then we probably would. But I think (this is just me thinking now) that we have to get it at the same time that the WWE give the live feed to the USA Network. And probably because it has to match with the USA's timeslot, seeing as we are 5 hours ahead of EST.

[Team Sheep]

Because then you would be getting it before me, and thats a big nono

Yeah, that too. :p

[Tornado]

There was some major heat for Cena in Sheffield, lots of "Cena Sucks" chants...