The six sided ring sucks. [Archive]

loopydate

11-23-2005, 08:39 PM

The six sided ring though... I found it a bit too gimicky.

I dont like the 6 sided ring.

Ultimate X is complete shit, I really dont know what they were thinking when they came up with that. Almost as good as their six sided ring :roll:

What the fuck are they doing with a 6 sided ring? :wtf:

BTW the 6 sided ring is the most gay thing ever. Gayer than Rico.

Have they got rid of that six sided ring yet?

im not a fan of that 6 sided gay ass ring either.

TNA can get big if they get over a few things:

3 - The six sided ring

I really can't stand the "Six-Sided Ring". Anyone else share my view?
yes
Yeah. It's tacky, like they did it just to be different.
I have hated it since the day they announced they were going to do it.
I personally don't like it especially for tag matches

And what the shit is with the six sided ring?

Whats with the six sided ring?

That 6 sided ring...I HATE IT!

I hate the hexagonal ring.

TNA is declining for a reason...maybe the 6 sided ring?

The Icon of Elisim

11-23-2005, 08:41 PM

lol good stuff

Gouda

11-23-2005, 09:21 PM

I agree. Six sides is not enough. Why settle for six when you can have..... SIXTY?!!!

LOOK AT ALL THEM EXTRA IMPACT POINTS!!!!!!

The One

11-23-2005, 09:31 PM

Agreed, they did it just to be different, but honestly, it doesn't bother me. They can pull of a good match in there, just as easily as a four sided. If they want to go over board and throw us a new design of a ring just to catch someone's eye, fine. But it in no way effects how I think their product is.

:shifty:

I mean...6 sides? That's like...2 more the needed. Fuckers.

Xero

11-23-2005, 09:32 PM

Why settle for one six sided ring when you can settle for... 7!!!!! TNA should have World War 7, where it's a huge 60 man battle royal between 7 rings and it's all pinfall and submission!

RemyRed

11-23-2005, 09:38 PM

I like the 6-sided ring. LOL at all the Disturbed316 comments.

Destor

11-23-2005, 09:40 PM

I have no formal opinion on the six-sided ring. I know how this must disappoint you.

Chavo Classic

11-23-2005, 09:49 PM

At least TNA is trying something different. You can't critise innovatism

Nervous Ferret

11-23-2005, 09:52 PM

lol @ me. "yes"

genius

Loose Cannon

11-23-2005, 09:56 PM

LAMO @ Hexagonal ring.

and lol @ AJ Styles:

Guy: OK AJ, if you could name one thing that makes TNA unique from the rest of the feds and makes you guys stand on your own, what would it be

AJ: You wanna know what it is; I'll tell you what it is, Our Ring has 6 sides.

:lol:

Chavo Classic

11-23-2005, 10:00 PM

...and Jeff Jarrett or course

Loose Cannon

11-23-2005, 10:02 PM

that was a real comment btw. not making that up

Chavo Classic

11-23-2005, 10:03 PM

I'm sure it was. The lasers are also a good reason to sit through an hour of crap to watch too

punt

11-23-2005, 10:09 PM

If Vince would have had the idea to amend the field in the XFL a bit more, it would have been a success. He should have made the field square. From the mid-point, create a 50 yard field in all directions. Whoever has the ball can run in whatever direction they want. Goal posts in all 4 directions. Now that would have worked!:lol: :lol:

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 12:07 AM

At least TNA is trying something different. You can't critise innovatism

You can criticise innovation when it's not innovation.

They didn't bring anything new to the table with a six sided ring.

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 12:10 AM

Anyway, I don't give a shit about the ring. It could be 2-sided, four sided, double ply, triple threat, or 4 dimensional, it's the action that makes wrestling wrestling. And TNA lacks action (Sportfests aside) and drama and all the things that make wrestling good to watch.

Pepsi Man

11-24-2005, 12:17 AM

You can criticise innovation when it's not innovation.

They didn't bring anything new to the table with a six sided ring.
This is true. Before I noticed you made this point, though, I was going to ask why you can't criticize innovation. If we couldn't criticize any "innovation" ever, the world would be full of stupid ass "innovations" to everything even moreso than it already is.

Gouda

11-24-2005, 12:41 AM

They should fight in virtual reality chambers.

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 12:46 AM

This is true. Before I noticed you made this point, though, I was going to ask why you can't criticize innovation. If we couldn't criticize any "innovation" ever, the world would be full of stupid ass "innovations" to everything even moreso than it already is.

This is true, as the criticism of innovation is how we refine innovation. My first thought, howver, was that it wasn't innovation. Innovation implies something new and inspired. This, I would dare argue, is the very antithesis of innovation; They nicked a concept from south of the border and used it as a gimmick instead of innovation.

Chavo Classic

11-24-2005, 06:09 AM

This is true. Before I noticed you made this point, though, I was going to ask why you can't criticize innovation. If we couldn't criticize any "innovation" ever, the world would be full of stupid ass "innovations" to everything even moreso than it already is.

Yes, but we're not talking about the world in general are we? We're talking about the wrestling industry which has become notorious for repetition and recycling old crap. Although the six sided ring isn't a whole lot of clever, it's still a sign that TNA is trying something fundamentally different with their product. Hopefully they will continue to think outside the box and hit the spot with one of their ideas eventually.

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 10:28 AM

Yes, but we're not talking about the world in general are we? We're talking about the wrestling industry which has become notorious for repetition and recycling old crap. Although the six sided ring isn't a whole lot of clever, it's still a sign that TNA is trying something fundamentally different with their product. Hopefully they will continue to think outside the box and hit the spot with one of their ideas eventually.

Except that when you add a new "innovation" to a business, then book it like latter-day WCW, you're in no way bettering yourself.

They added a NEW GIMMICK BAH GAWD, then booked TNA as though they were trying to run it into the ground. I'm missing the "fundamental" difference here, I guess, since fundmentally they are providing the same action.

Fox

11-24-2005, 06:08 PM

I like the six-sided ring. It adds to the matches by allowing more men to stand on the outsides, and more cool looking spots because of the ease at which you can bounce off the ropes and attack at any angle.

Oh, and if saying "They just want to be different" is supposed to be an insult, it's really not, because they admit it:

"What we have been doing to separate us from everyone else is the strong emphasis on youth," Tenay commented. "It's never been more evident that you need to have a core group of recognizable talent. At the same time, you need to have new, young, fresh talent that's being put on your programs on a regular basis. I think from an esthetic standpoint, the visual of people tuning in and seeing a six-sided ring, I think is a big help. It separates us from everybody else. Personally, I like the aspect of it and the different angles that guys can springboard off of and dive off of. If nothing else, it will cause that person who has that remote control to stop and take a look at your product." - Mike Tenay, SLAM Wrestling

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 06:21 PM

I'm surprised Sadistic hasn't come in to tell us the six-sided ring=great storytelling.

UmbrellaCorporation

11-24-2005, 06:23 PM

Want to know something else? The Pounce is the most DEVASTATING MOVE IN ALL OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT.

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 06:27 PM

Oh, and if saying "They just want to be different" is supposed to be an insult, it's really not, because they admit it:

So does the emo crowd, doesn't make either one of them less of a joke.

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 06:33 PM

Want to know something else? The Pounce is the most DEVASTATING MOVE IN ALL OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT.

OMGSTFU THIS IS WRESTLING NOT SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT :foc:

Fox

11-24-2005, 06:52 PM

So does the emo crowd, doesn't make either one of them less of a joke.

But that's different. TNA is wrestling. Emo kids are douche bags. Totally different.

St. Jimmy

11-24-2005, 07:01 PM

Douchebags indeed.
=D

Kane Knight

11-24-2005, 07:03 PM

But that's different. TNA is wrestling. Emo kids are douche bags. Totally different.

Yeah, but TNA separates itself with lackluster production and booking that makes the WWE look solid.

If being different means that you make your product look like shit, then yes, it's a good thing. But I don't like them for being different any more than I like the White Stripes (OMG! NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY YOUR INSTRUMENT IS DIFFERENT!)

Pinnacle Charisma

11-24-2005, 07:28 PM

So im gussing that people dont like the six sided ring

The MAC

11-25-2005, 03:46 AM

FUCK THE SHUT UP

Sadistic

11-25-2005, 04:57 AM

DaVe

11-25-2005, 05:29 AM

You're missing the point. People are saying 6-sided rings suck, not "the size of the surface is far more important than the matches". (So you didn't actually agree with anybody "here".)

However, something like a ring that sucks would perhaps hinder the feeling people get if they imagine Kurt Angle vs. Bret Hart in an Iron Man Match.

Kane Knight

11-25-2005, 09:37 AM

Have to agree with everyone here. The size of the surface is far more important than the matches. Imagine Kurt Angle vs. Bret Hart in an iron man match.........but the ring didn't have 4 sides! How much would that suck!?!1

1. It's shape. Not size. What are you, five?

2. Too bad they don't have match quality going for them either. Then your argument might hold water, except:

3. Nobody's saying that number of sides = match quality. Least, not til you came along.

Sarcasm can be a powerful tool, when the mind behind it isn't limp as a noodle.

Kane Knight

11-25-2005, 09:39 AM

Sadistic got peed on. :D

Xero

11-25-2005, 09:41 AM

Fox

11-26-2005, 12:50 AM

1. It's shape. Not size. What are you, five?

2. Too bad they don't have match quality going for them either. Then your argument might hold water, except:

3. Nobody's saying that number of sides = match quality. Least, not til you came along.

Sarcasm can be a powerful tool, when the mind behind it isn't limp as a noodle.

But this poses another question: if it's not the size difference (as the 6-sided ring is slightly bigger than the 4-sided ring), then why exactly do all of you people hate the six sided ring so much?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Kane Knight

11-26-2005, 12:59 AM

But this poses another question: if it's not the size difference (as the 6-sided ring is slightly bigger than the 4-sided ring), then why exactly do all of you people hate the six sided ring so much?

Enquiring minds want to know.

(Keep in mind I'm not one of "You people")

Anyway, I don't give a shit about the ring. It could be 2-sided, four sided, double ply, triple threat, or 4 dimensional, it's the action that makes wrestling wrestling. And TNA lacks action (Sportfests aside) and drama and all the things that make wrestling good to watch.

I think a lot of people complaining about the 6-sided ring are doing so because they're looking for a reason that TNA is sucking so hard. I don't know about everyone, but it seems to be a bloody scapegoat.

Of course, what makes TNA suck so much is the fact that it's a B-Rate WCW (Arguably already a C-rate show). They're countering crap (The WWE) with worse crap (WCW-style "entertainment") and trying to dress it up with shitty spotfests and a novelty ring (YEs, for the mainstream American audience, this is a novelty).

TNA has everything it needs to succeed, and still blows. People want a reason.

McLegend

11-26-2005, 01:03 AM

Wait is the 6 sided ring actually bigger then the WWE ring? It really doesn't look it.

Destor

11-26-2005, 01:09 AM

I'd say most people hate the six-sided ring because the announcer keep driving this gimmick down our throats.

*side note*
Hey Sadistic, just wandering, lets say someone doesn't like the six-sided ring (I have nothing against it or for it personally,) how does this mean they don't like the quality of their <strike>matches</strike> spotfest?

Fox

11-26-2005, 01:12 AM

Wait is the 6 sided ring actually bigger then the WWE ring? It really doesn't look it.

I had this exact conversation with my girlfriend last night.

Her: It doesn't really look bigger.

Me: Babe, it's bigger, I swear.

Her: I don't think so. Does it make you feel special for it to be bigger?

Me: Dude, it's BIGGER!

Kane Knight

11-26-2005, 01:34 AM

I had this exact conversation with my girlfriend last night.

Her: It doesn't really look bigger.

Me: Babe, it's bigger, I swear.

Her: I don't think so. Does it make you feel special for it to be bigger?

Me: Dude, it's BIGGER!

Proof that size does matter.

I'm pretty sure it is bigger, it just doesn't look it because it's cut 6ways nstead of 4.

Corkscrewed

11-26-2005, 03:51 AM

Consider the ring size thingy an optical illusion. Kinda how a bunch of horizontal lines laid over a series of cocentric circles make the lines look curved.

I think the idea of a six sided ring can be interesting, but it should never serive as a dominant feature. It's just a background... something there. The fact that TNA makes such a huge deal about it is pretty stupid. It'd be like bragging about a circular Titantron vs a square one. Who cares?

That said, six ringposts allows for slight tweaks in moves that could be interesting. Again, these would be subtle nuances, nothing to piss your pants about.