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Penner
11-28-2005, 12:27 AM
Ok I have my guitar amp right next to my laptop because I like to play listening to the song and looking up tabs.
Whenever my computer is on my guitar amp emits a very annoying high pitched noise. Is there anyway to stop this without turning my computer off?
Kane Knight
11-28-2005, 12:59 AM
Probably not. Interference.
The only real solution is to move the two further apart, most likely.
The Mask
11-28-2005, 01:19 PM
are you sure it's not just feedback from your guitar if you're sat in front of your computer and your amp is right next to it?
Just John
11-28-2005, 01:23 PM
other than what they said, turn the amp down, it could work, Im more into acoustics though
Joey Slugs
11-28-2005, 01:45 PM
move the amp and computer farther apart.
what you really should do is move the guitar away, not the amp.
JJ Moore
11-28-2005, 05:48 PM
your computer screen signals playing hells mary with your guitar pickup's
The Greater Power
11-28-2005, 07:39 PM
Print out the tabs.
Download the songs to a CD.
Problem solved. You won't be near a computer.
Jason Cage
11-30-2005, 12:15 AM
Since we're talking about amps here...
Can someone explain to me the difference between Gain and Distortion (or Overdrive) ?
I have a 15 watt crate that says Gain and a Marshall that says Distortion.
Also while you're explaining, could you suggets me a new amp? reasonable size too. I'm not looking for concert amps here.
My marshall is an MG30DFX...at first I thought ti kicked ass (after having the little crappy Crate one for so long) but in recent months I've come to realize how much it atcually sucks. There's barely any bass, it broke twice from inside and the sound is just overall crappy.
So like I was thinking of a Mesa Boogie type...but that's too expensive, so I went ahead looked up this Peavy here
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/guitar_amplifiers/peavey/transtube_212_efx/
and I read good reviews.
BTW, I'm into Metallica sounding stuff for both CLean and Heavy channels.
Sooooooooo can anyone enlighten me on the difference between gain/Distortion and offer any amp ideas? (k)
Kane Knight
11-30-2005, 01:24 AM
Gain is actually a function of even a "Clean" amp, actually. IT's an increase in the signal itself, which can lead to distortion. Some of the earliest "electric" electric guitar functions were achieved through upping the the until the signal became distorted.
Distortion usually is the function of processing the signal, however. But it can come from bumping the gain so much you cut up the signal itself.
In terms of actual amps, I know fuck all. Four years of electronics theory, 3 of acoustics theory, but less than a year of real work with actual amps.
I have a Peavey 5150, its a pretty sick amp. My buddy has a Mesa Dual Rectifier, which also a great amp, but for one thing. The big problem is that you really need to combine amps for good tone. Like the lead on a Mesa sucks, but the rhythm tones are sick. On the 5150 the lead is insane, but the rhythm sometimes leaves something to be desired.
Alot of times we'll get together and split the signal between the two amps. My god do we get the best guitar tone ever heard with the two of them together. Each one fills in the holes left by the other. Its fucking bliss man. Two of the best amps ever made together in one room. Sick shit. I dont know if you've ever gotten to play through multiple amps, but its the best feeling in the world.
Also if you're interested, the recording I posted in that other thread is all through the Mesa.
Fabien Barthez
11-30-2005, 12:01 PM
too high reverb makes a buzz.
have you tried bending down to the amp and messing with the settings?
Jason Cage
11-30-2005, 03:38 PM
Gain is actually a function of even a "Clean" amp, actually. IT's an increase in the signal itself, which can lead to distortion. Some of the earliest "electric" electric guitar functions were achieved through upping the the until the signal became distorted.
Distortion usually is the function of processing the signal, however. But it can come from bumping the gain so much you cut up the signal itself.
Hmm. So, all in all, what would you say sounds better?
Cause, believe it or not my small Crate has more bass than the Marshall I own, double it's size.
So i don't know if it's the Gain that causes that. I get two channels on it with no etxra features and on the marshall, where I do have some extras, the distortion just sounds ear-ritating.
I have a Peavey 5150, its a pretty sick amp. My buddy has a Mesa Dual Rectifier, which also a great amp, but for one thing. The big problem is that you really need to combine amps for good tone. Like the lead on a Mesa sucks, but the rhythm tones are sick. On the 5150 the lead is insane, but the rhythm sometimes leaves something to be desired.
Alot of times we'll get together and split the signal between the two amps. My god do we get the best guitar tone ever heard with the two of them together. Each one fills in the holes left by the other. Its fucking bliss man. Two of the best amps ever made together in one room. Sick shit. I dont know if you've ever gotten to play through multiple amps, but its the best feeling in the world.
Yeah, I i don't think I'll be playing any 200 watt/2000 $ amps just yet. Do you think the Peavy I linked in my other post is a kickass though?
Well for the same prive you can get a 5150 combo. The one you linked might be good, but you're best bet is to try one out and see if it works for you.
Kane Knight
11-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Hmm. So, all in all, what would you say sounds better?
Generally, getting a distortion pedal will sound better, because someone actually took the time to model an output signal to specifications. Using gain will sound sloppier the more you push it and is a crap shoot.
I guess it depends on exactly you want it to sound like, but for my money, I'd stick with A decent effects pedal over dicing it with my amp.
samichna
11-30-2005, 06:28 PM
I have the Boss MD-2 Mega Distortion pedal, and I'm pretty happy with it.
http://www.bossus.com/ProductImages/md2.jpg
Jason Cage
11-30-2005, 07:45 PM
Damn, I'm completely ignorant with all the pedals and effects. Will look into it though. Thanks y'all.:kiss:
Kane Knight
11-30-2005, 07:57 PM
Hey, on the subject, anyoneknow how you acheive the whole "Jangly Guitars" thing?
The style goes back as far as the birds, but I'm looking for something a little more modern. A good example would be Buffalo Tom, or Polaris (If you're a Pete and Pete fan, they did most of the music to the series)
Kane Knight
11-30-2005, 07:58 PM
I have the Boss MD-2 Mega Distortion pedal, and I'm pretty happy with it.
http://www.bossus.com/ProductImages/md2.jpg
My axe is so cheap I have only dicked around with cheapass pedals. I've mostly used the Danelectro Pedals. They're low cost, but get the job done as far as I need to go.
Kane Knight
11-30-2005, 07:59 PM
I'd suggest, BTW that if you're looking around for amps and pedals, go to a place where you can jack in and TRY them.
Dude KK wtf are you talking about? Distortion pedals sounds like garbage. There's nothing better than the distortion on good amps. Seriously. Pretty much everytime my buddy records a band they show up with all these pedals. Once they hear the amp distortions we get they generally never use the pedals, unless its like a wah or some shit like that. We've tried higherend pedals like the Proco Rat and shit like that, sans amps, all kinds of crap. They all suck. Especially those Boss pedals.
And dont evene get me started on Line 6 and their "modeling". Modeling sounds like shit. LOL my stupid friend was like hey check out the Mesa Triple Rectifier sound on my Line 6 1x12 Combo!!! Sounded like balls. Not even remotely close to a Mesa.
Kane Knight
12-01-2005, 09:38 AM
Dude KK wtf are you talking about? Distortion pedals sounds like garbage. There's nothing better than the distortion on good amps. Seriously. Pretty much everytime my buddy records a band they show up with all these pedals. Once they hear the amp distortions we get they generally never use the pedals, unless its like a wah or some shit like that. We've tried higherend pedals like the Proco Rat and shit like that, sans amps, all kinds of crap. They all suck. Especially those Boss pedals.
Idstortion pedals vs jumping up the gain?
kwutever
samichna
12-01-2005, 01:30 PM
You can get a lot of different sounds out of that Boss Pedal.
I don't have a super expensive amp anyway, so it's fine for samichna.
Silent
12-01-2005, 01:44 PM
This is what I use for all my effects, it kicks ass..
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/482222/
lol the POD. Some of the leads are cool but overall MEH.
Also fuck solid state amps, nothing better than tube to warm you up :)
Jason Cage
12-01-2005, 11:37 PM
BTW, do those distortion pedals allow me both clean and overdrive sounds?
Like, if I have my amp on Clean, then wI plug the pdeal in, stomp it--turns to overdrive. Stomp it again--Back to clean sound. Is that how it works? Cause I need one that does that.
Yeah they all do that - but make sure its one with a true bypass otherwise levels and sound can be degraded even with the pedal off.
Kane Knight
12-02-2005, 09:36 AM
BTW, do those distortion pedals allow me both clean and overdrive sounds?
Like, if I have my amp on Clean, then wI plug the pdeal in, stomp it--turns to overdrive. Stomp it again--Back to clean sound. Is that how it works? Cause I need one that does that.
Pedals generally allow you to use a simple on/of function. It won't toggle the actual drive effect of your amp, but if you turn off the pedal, it'll revert to whatever amp sound you normally have.
Penner
12-02-2005, 01:16 PM
I have the Roland Cube 30 which has all the built in shit i need
The Mask
12-02-2005, 09:05 PM
Since we're talking about amps here...
Can someone explain to me the difference between Gain and Distortion (or Overdrive) ?
I have a 15 watt crate that says Gain and a Marshall that says Distortion.
Also while you're explaining, could you suggets me a new amp? reasonable size too. I'm not looking for concert amps here.
My marshall is an MG30DFX...at first I thought ti kicked ass (after having the little crappy Crate one for so long) but in recent months I've come to realize how much it atcually sucks. There's barely any bass, it broke twice from inside and the sound is just overall crappy.
So like I was thinking of a Mesa Boogie type...but that's too expensive, so I went ahead looked up this Peavy here
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/guitar_amplifiers/peavey/transtube_212_efx/
and I read good reviews.
BTW, I'm into Metallica sounding stuff for both CLean and Heavy channels.
Sooooooooo can anyone enlighten me on the difference between gain/Distortion and offer any amp ideas? (k)
what kind of guitar do you actually play?
Jason Cage
12-02-2005, 11:58 PM
Ibanez SZ520
JJ Moore
12-03-2005, 04:01 AM
http://www.engl-amps.com/engl-amps/amps/tube_heads/fireball/fireball_head.gif
http://www.engl-amps.com/engl-amps/amps/cabinets/cabine2.jpg
King Jericho's £1300 of Ampy Goodness
King Jericho
12-03-2005, 09:18 AM
:love:
The Mask
12-03-2005, 03:01 PM
also, the difference between gain and distortion (i think) is that distortion is a compressed signal. so if you had a really high gain, and you played hard, it would distort. if you played softly, it wouldn't, or if it did it wouldn't be anywhere near as severe.
with distortion the signal is (probably) compressed as it goes in, and boosted up to the point where it will always distort no matter how hard you play.
so gain would be good for van halen type stuff, and distortion for like nirvana or whatever.
Penner
12-03-2005, 05:57 PM
Print out the tabs.
Download the songs to a CD.
Problem solved. You won't be near a computer.Seriously, coolest person ever.
Kane Knight
12-04-2005, 12:45 PM
also, the difference between gain and distortion (i think) is that distortion is a compressed signal. so if you had a really high gain, and you played hard, it would distort. if you played softly, it wouldn't, or if it did it wouldn't be anywhere near as severe.
with distortion the signal is (probably) compressed as it goes in, and boosted up to the point where it will always distort no matter how hard you play.
so gain would be good for van halen type stuff, and distortion for like nirvana or whatever.
Gain makes the wave bigger.
Distortion changes the wave shape.
Gain can cause the signal's shape to change, but only when you make the wave so big that the peaks start to clip.
Distortion can be applied at any volume level.
You need some nice tubes for good sound. The difference between tube and solid state shit is huge still, but the solid state crap is catching up.
Kane Knight
12-05-2005, 11:39 AM
You need some nice tubes for good sound. The difference between tube and solid state shit is huge still, but the solid state crap is catching up.
He's partially right.
Solid state tends to use a digital signal, and cheaper models can tend to have a crappy sound compared to tubes. However, Baio has fallen into the same hole as "LPs sound better than CDs" and "MP3s can't be below 360K/sec and still sound good."
You can actually make a solid state signal amp that doesn't use digital processing though, which kills the primary argument against SS technology.
Sadly, you can't change magical thinking.
My ears dont lie KK. CD obviously is much better than LP and MP3's can sound wonderful below 360, but man nothing beats tube. Not yet anyway. So take your crappay analogies and shove em.
Thats right, crappay, because KK is gay.
The Mask
12-05-2005, 06:42 PM
of course your ears lie, judging by your string bending in that mp3 you posted.
that's right, i went there.
ZING
I actually have really bad relative pitch, honestly.
Jason Cage
12-05-2005, 11:45 PM
harmonic bends are a bitch at first.
Penner
12-06-2005, 01:42 AM
harmonic bends are a bitch at first.
I agree, they hurt :(
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