THE CHAMP IS HERE *Turning Point Spoilers*

[Innovator]

The champ is here
The champ is here
The champ is here
The champ is here

Niggaz know the champ is in here
He took it from crack to rap, now he put out two anthems a year
And I just wanna rock for a century
And then chase the book wit the documentry
If you cant do nothing other than flow
Life's a bitch like the mother from blow, lets go
Don't make me put your heart on your lap
Fuck ridin a beat nigga, I parallel park on a track
Hop out looking crispy, fresh and new
In a six but it's a BM and its Pepsi blue
And I don't know you
But I know a man becomes a man from all the shit that he go through
Y'all ain't fuckin wit Jason
After I cash in there's really no justification
Of how I'm gon change tha game
So don't get outta line cause this little nine will change your frame
Motherfucka, aha





No not Cena you marks

The NEW TNA X-Division Champion.....SAMOA JOE

[McLegend]

:cool:

[thecc]

:D

[BlackDawn2024]

Cena>Samoa Joe :shifty:

....no, I didn't really mean that! I swear!

[loopydate]

:rofl: Jeff Hardy no-showed the PPV. Matter of time, no?

[McLegend]

Apparently Sting was the big announcment, but they didn't announce it.

So hmm yeah. Guess I was wrong

Sounded like a solid PPV

[Shadow]

:rofl: Jeff Hardy no-showed the PPV. Matter of time, no?

Jeff wasn't on the card. Matter of time before you stop being an idiot right?

[PullMyFinger]

Jeff wasn't on the card. Matter of time before you stop being an idiot right?
Pre-Show match.

[McLegend]

Jeff wasn't on the card. Matter of time before you stop being an idiot right?
He was supposed to be in the Pre-show match

[Kane Knight]

Jeff wasn't on the card. Matter of time before you stop being an idiot right?

Matter of time before you stop being pwnd, right?

[Shadow]

Fuck off all of you.

[Innovator]

Hey with his busy schedule, no wonder he couldn't make the show. So many shows...so little time

[loopydate]

*Is expecting an apology*

[Loose Cannon]

Hardy was busy buying more neon paint at Fag Express

[loopydate]

*Isn't holding his breath*

[loopydate]

*Even though that would be EXTREEEEEEEEME*

[Innovator]

Hardy was busy buying more neon paint at Fag ExpressIsn't he sponsered by them?

[loopydate]

*Forgot I wasn't talking to Sadistic for a second*

[Innovator]

Lets get back to the point of the thread, and that is the awesomeness that is Joe.

He owned AJ, he then owned Daniels


Samoa Joe for Man of the Century

[McDoogle]

What site can I go to get the results.

[Shadow]

Wrestleveiw.com.

Oh and Loopy...kiss the widest part of my ass.

[RemyRed]

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!

[loopydate]

:lol: This is, like, the third time in the last month I've been called an idiot for something I was right about. Why do people project their own character flaws onto me? Is it because I'm not mean enough to fight back with anything other than my biting wit?

[Shadow]

That and you swallowed a bug. That could be part of the problem.

[Xero]

Jeff Hardy - Extreme Machine, Emo Poet, Emo Rocker, Pot Head, No-Show.

Jeff: Off to Japan I go!

(Next week he returns with half a paycheck)

Jeff: I JUST FORGOT!

[loopydate]

True. Hard to mount a good verbal debate with a bug lodged in my throat.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Am I like, the only one not overly impressed with Joe? I mean, don't get me wrong; he's good (not as good as Daniels or Lynn mind you) but good. He just reminds me of like, Taz-lite only with a high flying ability. I dunno, just not a fan.

[RemyRed]

The TNA crowd is on hand for this one.

Let's go loopy! Let's go Shadow! Let's go loopy! Let's go Shadow! Let's go Xero! Let's go Shadow! We want tables! *clap clap clap clap clap* Huss! Huss! Huss! Let's go A1! *clap clap clap clap clap*

[RemyRed]

Am I like, the only one not overly impressed with Joe? I mean, don't get me wrong; he's good (not as good as Daniels or Lynn mind you) but good. He just reminds me of like, Taz-lite only with a high flying ability. I dunno, just not a fan.
Admit it HeartBreakKid2K, it's because he's fat. That's why you can't like him.

[loopydate]

I'm kinda the same way. Good technical skill, quick for a guy his size, but I don't really think he's the next big thing. I'm kinda curious why, exactly, he counts as an X Division wrestler. I know it's not about weight limits, but he's not exactly Chris Sabin out there.

[Kane Knight]

Thoughts:

Will the "Samoan Submission Machine" Finally get a third submission?

Is Jeff Hardy the only American with a worse work ethic than I?

If I put my testicles in a barbed wire vice, could I be as hardcore as Sadistic?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I mean, he slightly reminds me of Taz in ECW (minus the cool ass gimmick) so I'm not real sure as to why I don't like his in ring work. I just don't understand what's so damn great about him. I know he's good, but good is about it to me and yet anytime I see a Joe related thread you guys build him up like he's the best indy guy out. Joe just doesn't have that intangible something that captivates my attention like Daniels or Styles.

[Xero]

Thoughts:

Will the "Samoan Submission Machine" Finally get a third submission?

Is Jeff Hardy the only American with a worse work ethic than I?

If I put my testicles in a barbed wire vice, could I be as hardcore as Sadistic?
All this and more, tomorrow in the TPWW Wrestling Forum!

[Kane Knight]

Same TPWW time, same TPWW channel.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Admit it HeartBreakKid2K, it's because he's fat. That's why you can't like him.

OH MY GOD! [/Styles]

You've solved it for me. How will I ever repay you!?!

[Shadow]

Probably because he can move. That's about it. He can move faster than any man his size that I've seen.

But like HBK2K said...not overly impressed with him. He's got an innovative finisher but...I think being called the Samoan Submission Machine is a little much for him. He's got, what, two submissions? Being called a Submission Machine might be a little much.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Probably because he can move. That's about it. He can move faster than any man his size that I've seen.

But like HBK2K said...not overly impressed with him. He's got an innovative finisher but...I think being called the Samoan Submission Machine is a little much for him. He's got, what, two submissions? Being called a Submission Machine might be a little much.

Yeah, that shit pissed me off. I love submission style wrestlers (mostly due to my MMA background) and so when they were calling him the "Samoan Submission Machine" I got all excited. Then I watched a couple of his matches and was like "WTF, I've seen John Cena do more submission then him! :MAD:".

I think you guys just solved why I'm not thrilled with Joe, I'm angry about his misleading nickname. :rant:

[Shadow]

Go us.

TPWW...solving all your emotional needs since....Joe got a new Submission.

[McLegend]

In ROH he does much more submissions.

In TNA though his style had to change so he might actually have a chance of being booed which is nearly impossible.

[Kane Knight]

In ROH he does much more submissions.

In TNA though his style had to change so he might actually have a chance of being booed which is nearly impossible.

Here's the problem though.

RoH isn't televised.

The fanbase will jduge him on what they see, and honestly, I'm not impressed. And I've SEEN THE GUY IN ACTION before, it's just that he's shit in TNA.

It's like Burchill, or the Cruiserweights. Doesn't much matter how good you are if your finisher is a sholderbreaker/armbar or your moveset is banned.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I've seen Joe in ROH (live actually) , still not overly impressed.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Doesn't much matter how good you are if (..) your moveset is banned.

Taz/WWE :'(

*Huge Taz mark in case you guys have yet to notice*

[McLegend]

Here's the problem though.

RoH isn't televised.

The fanbase will jduge him on what they see, and honestly, I'm not impressed. And I've SEEN THE GUY IN ACTION before, it's just that he's shit in TNA.

It's like Burchill, or the Cruiserweights. Doesn't much matter how good you are if your finisher is a sholderbreaker/armbar or your moveset is banned.
I get what you are saying and I'm not really disargeeing with you, but I think Joe has lived up to the hype.

He's been good in every match he's had in TNA. Those kicks he does look really painful, and I'm sure they are. He is definitely the quickest guy I have ever seen for his size. His personatly to is great.

Take it for what it's worth, but submissions are not I'm buying Samoa Joe has a great wrestler.

[Shadow]

Then they need to stop telling us he's a submission machine then. False Advertising isn't something TNA needs right now.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Brock Lesnar was bigger, quicker, a better wrestler, is more captivating, and did more submission moves :rant: Thus Joe being "big and quick" isn't overly impressive to me.

Plus if we're talking "chubby/fat" big and quick then Bam Bam trumps him in that category as well. Bam Bam was a better overall wrestler as well, plus he had flames tattooed on his fuckin head (that's gotta count for something) :cool: .

Thus Joe isn't that impressive regardless. Again, good but not exceptional.

[Dorkchop]

From what I've seen, I really like Somoa Joe. BUT I have only seen him in squash matches on Impact. I normally hate squash matches too. He seems like a pretty solid worker, but I'll have to wait to see him a big one on one match.

Haha, Jeff Hardy is the Towlie of wrestling.

[Dorkchop]

Also, where the crap did all my sweet ass positive rep go? I had it full... TO THE MAX! Yeah, I really don't care.

[Skippord]

I'm kinda the same way. Good technical skill, quick for a guy his size, but I don't really think he's the next big thing. I'm kinda curious why, exactly, he counts as an X Division wrestler. I know it's not about weight limits, but he's not exactly Chris Sabin out there.

Thank You and for the record Chris Sabin is Teh Ownage to the max

[HeartBreakMan2k]

btw, I don't know what Colt calls that move, but that fucking fall back double knee gut buster is extremely cool

[Innovator]

Thats Roderick Strong

[Skippord]

Strong however is also so fucking cool I love those backbrakers man

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Whatever, I don't care who it is, the move is cool.

[Innovator]

Fireman's Carry Gut Buster

[Joey Slugs]

i have to say....

tonight's AJ/Joe match might very well be match of the year.

[Blitz]

i have to say....

tonight's AJ/Joe match might very well be match of the year.

:y:

[Pete]

The champ is here
The champ is here
The champ is here
The champ is here

Niggaz know the champ is in here
He took it from crack to rap, now he put out two anthems a year
And I just wanna rock for a century
And then chase the book wit the documentry
If you cant do nothing other than flow
Life's a bitch like the mother from blow, lets go
Don't make me put your heart on your lap
Fuck ridin a beat nigga, I parallel park on a track
Hop out looking crispy, fresh and new
In a six but it's a BM and its Pepsi blue
And I don't know you
But I know a man becomes a man from all the shit that he go through
Y'all ain't fuckin wit Jason
After I cash in there's really no justification
Of how I'm gon change tha game
So don't get outta line cause this little nine will change your frame
Motherfucka, aha





No not Cena you marks

The NEW TNA X-Division Champion.....SAMOA JOE

Who's the song by?

[Impact!]

Jadakiss

[hb2k]

Anyody know where I can download AJ Vs. Joe? Living in the UK, we don't get it for another 5 weeks...

[Innovator]

JadakissActually it was Mozart, who composed the whole song in the past, inspired just by the words Samoa Joe

[My Final Heaven]

Ok, kiddies, I think it's time for a little history lesson!
__________________________________________________

Randy Orton shows up, has a flashy finisher & goes over in a bunch of decisive victories.

Smart Fans: "WE LOOOOVE RANDY ORTON! HE'S THE FUTURE OF WRESTLING! THEY NEED TO GET THE TITLE ON HIM & KEEP IT ON HIM!"

3-4 months after Orton has won the title: "GRRRR! WE HATE RANDY ORTON! HE NEEDS TO DROP THE TITLE, DIE & GO TO HELL!"
__________________________________________________

John Cena shows up, has a flashy finisher & goes over in a bunch of decisive victories.

Smart Fans: "WE LOOOOVE JOHN CENA! HE'S THE FUTURE OF WRESTLING! THEY NEED TO GET THE TITLE ON HIM & KEEP IT ON HIM!"

3-4 months after Cena has won the title: "GRRRR! WE HATE JOHN CENA! HE NEEDS TO DROP THE TITLE, DIE & GO TO HELL!"
__________________________________________________

Samoa Joe shows up, has a flashy finisher & goes over in a bunch of decisive victories.

Smart Fans: "WE LOOOOVE SAMOA JOE! HE'S THE FUTURE OF WRESTLING! THEY NEED TO GET THE TITLE ON HIM & KEEP IT ON HIM!"

:shifty: Looks like Joe's gonna have a rough online life in a coupla months.

[loopydate]

To be fair, though, once Orton and Cena won the titles, their gimmicks changed completely, and the way they played their heel gimmicks were why we loved them to begin with.

[Innovator]

How dare you mention Joe's name lumped in with commoners like Orton and Cena...

Also Joe held the ROH World Title for roughly 20 months, I can handle him holding titles for a while.

[RemyRed]

He's no Jimmy Rave however. But then again who is?

[redoneja]

I like Joe, he reminds me of Vader in a monster heel sense. I just wish he could open up his arsenal more in TNA, like he did in RoH. Joe has had a great year from his first match to AJ Styles, to the Triple Threat w/ Daniels and Styles. Plus who can forget his match with Kenta Kobashi or the tag match from Unforgettable?

With that being said, Joe is the kinda wrestler that needs a good opponet to fully shine. Im not saying he needs someone to carry him, but he isn't like a Kurt Angle or Ric Flair(circa 1985) that can have a good match with anyone.

[Kane Knight]

To be fair, though, once Orton and Cena won the titles, their gimmicks changed completely, and the way they played their heel gimmicks were why we loved them to begin with.

And Joe's in a promotion with no gimmicks at all...Unless being on drugs and high on housepaint counts...

[Innovator]

He's no Jimmy Rave however. But then again who is?
THE CROWN JEWEL...OF THE EMBHASSSSYYYYY






JIMMMMMMMMY RAAAAAAAAAAAVE

[Innovator]

I like Joe, he reminds me of Vader in a monster heel sense. I just wish he could open up his arsenal more in TNA, like he did in RoH. Joe has had a great year from his first match to AJ Styles, to the Triple Threat w/ Daniels and Styles. Plus who can forget his match with Kenta Kobashi or the tag match from Unforgettable?
The brawl with Low Ki and Homicide from Punk: The Final Chapter

The amazing 4 way between Joe, Delirious, Jack Evans, and Ebatorah

The rematches against Aries

[Skippord]

I'll give Joe one thing the Muscle Buster Kicks ass

[Kane Knight]

Joe could be pretty good if they let him bust loose.

[Innovator]

The Avalanche Muscle Buster he gave to Homicide back in 2003 was absolutely sick, it looked like Homicide was legit hurt.

(The AMB is a Muscle Buster off the ropes)

[Skippord]

TNA could be pretty good if they Had storylines.

[The One]

My Final Heaven - Uhhhhh...I think that wasn't exactly a good argument. Case and point...I STILL love Rnady Orton, think he is the future of wrestling, and I thought they should have kept the title off of him until at least Mania 22 and have him go through some classic wars for the IC Title and World Title teases for a few years...John Cena sucks (always and forever)...Samoa Joe isn't the future, the next big thing, or even hype worthy. He is nothing more then a guy who is kind of big, stiff, and has a few interesting moves that if Sonjay Dutt did he would be labled usless. BORING. I don't notice much ban-wagon jumping going on...except MISTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KENNEDY....






































































....and he sucks too.

[Skippord]

Screw you The One
















...KENNEDY rawks

[RemyRed]

No Kennedy sucks. Back on the "why do people overrate Samoa Joe" question, another thing might be because he brings, as Paul Heyman would say, a "big fight atmosphere" with him.

[Kane Knight]

No Kennedy sucks. Back on the "why do people overrate Samoa Joe" question, another thing might be because he brings, as Paul Heyman would say, a "big fat atmosphere" with him.