wwe championship or the world heavyweight title

[wwefan4life]

All right guyz itz time 2 speak out which title is more important in
u'r veiw the wwe title or the world heavyweight title.
wwe title cause it's elder and has big names
world heavyweight title cause it lookz great and the names with it are
gr8 wrestlers
whatchya think???????/:lol:

[The One]

Please before ever posting here again learn how to post without looking like a retard.

My answer, WWE Championship. The World Heavyweight Title will no longer be a active title within the next 2 years, bank on it.

[CharismaInjection]

The WWE title. It hold years and years of champions behind it. The WHC has a three year history and it has been hogged by Triple H through most of that.

Besides, former WWE champion sounds much better than former World Heavyweight Champion.

[BigChris]

The WWE title. It hold years and years of champions behind it. The WHC has a three year history and it has been hogged by Triple H through most of that.

Besides, former WWE champion sounds much better than former World Heavyweight Champion.

You know that the WHC goes back farther than 3 years right?

[Xero]

You know that the WHC goes back farther than 3 years right?
Yeah, 4.

It's NOT the WCW title.

[BigChris]

I know it's not supossed to be, but I don't believe what ever WWE says just because it's what I am supossed to believe, it's the damn WCW title and I will always look at it and say HEY, their is the WCW title, because I watched WCW and can't help but notice it's the same belt.

[Xero]

I know it's not supossed to be, but I don't believe what ever WWE says just because it's what I am supossed to believe, it's the damn WCW title and I will always look at it and say HEY, their is the WCW title, because I watched WCW and can't help but notice it's the same belt.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldheavyweight/

Just because it's the same model (which it really isn't) doesn't mean it's the same title. Do you look at the (old, pre-Cena) WWE championship and say "Hey, there's the Undisputed championship!"?

The WCW title's history is "locked away" in the WWE title.

[Destor]

WWE Championship.

[BigChris]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldheavyweight/

Just because it's the same model (which it really isn't) doesn't mean it's the same title. Do you look at the (old, pre-Cena) WWE championship and say "Hey, there's the Undisputed championship!"?

The WCW title's history is "locked away" in the WWE title.

I didn't know it was a different title all together, but since it looks exactly the same as the WCW World Heaveyweiht title, I consider it to be the WCW World Heaveywieght Title, the WWE Undisputed title doesn't have as much history as the WCW World Title, The WWE Title and the Undisputed WWE title have different names so it is easier to think of them seperatly, also WWE can make up what ever title they want, and call it what ever they want, but when they take the old WCW title and give it to HHH saying that it's a new belt I don't just give them the benift of the doubt, I believe HHH used to talk about the History of the World Title back when they first started using it again, so....

[Disturbed316]

The WCW title and the World Heavyweight title are completly different titles. YES, they look the same, but they are DIFFERENT.

[BigChris]

Then why did Batista say it was the same belt Ric Flair and Harley Race wore last night on Smackdown!?

[wwefan4life]

when the wwf vanquished the wcw-ecw alliance at survivor series
rocky was reigning as the wcw champion who was further on
refered as the world champion but the official recognization of this title
was done in 2002. if u read the title history section on wwe.com
it is clearly written eric awarded the old wcw title to triple h as the first world heavyweight champ wwe ain't crazy to let the whc main event 2 wrestle mania 's:p

[The One]

People get so hung up on the idea that the World Heavyweight Title is the WCW title because they look so similar. Did anybody look at the old ECW Television Title and confusing it for the WWF Championship (Winged Eagle)? It WAS the same model...hell no. On top of that the WCW Tag Titles were called the WCW World Tag Team Championship...does anyone confuse them for the World Tag Team Championship in use now [Please see note at the end of the post]? No! I am telling you, once and for all, and this is the last time I will say this so I hope you all can just believe me...the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, and the World Heavyweight Championship are not, ARE NOT, the same title. Thank you for your time.

[NOTE:] The World Tag Team Championships (currently on RAW) are actually the WWE Tag Team Championship, odd since they renamed them to World, and then held a tournament to crown the first WWE Tag Team Champions...why they did that? I'll never know...probably just to fuck with people.

[BigChris]

WWE can say what ever they want, but it is referred by most of the wrestlers that hold the WWE World Title as the old WCW title, I know it's not supossed to be the WCW title but it is, and that is a damn fact, Batista and HHH always talk about the history of the World Title and when they mention Ric Flair and Harley Race as former World Title holders I don't think they are talking about the WWE World Title, until someone can explain to me why they make such claims, I will look at the Wolrd Title as the WCW and anyone that doesn't is clearly just believing whatever the WWE tells you to believe, I think there's a name for that isn't there?

[Xero]

WWE can say what ever they want, but it is referred by most of the wrestlers that hold the WWE World Title as the old WCW title, I know it's not supossed to be the WCW title but it is, and that is a damn fact, Batista and HHH always talk about the history of the World Title and when they mention Ric Flair and Harley Race as former World Title holders I don't think they are talking about the WWE World Title, until someone can explain to me why they make such claims, I will look at the Wolrd Title as the WCW and anyone that doesn't is clearly just believing whatever the WWE tells you to believe, I think there's a name for that isn't there?
I've heard wrestlers in other promotions rant on about how they have reached the ranks of people like Flair, Sting, and Hogan and had never even been in WCW or WWF.

[redoneja]

People get so hung up on the idea that the World Heavyweight Title is the WCW title because they look so similar. Did anybody look at the old ECW Television Title and confusing it for the WWF Championship (Winged Eagle)? It WAS the same model...hell no. On top of that the WCW Tag Titles were called the WCW World Tag Team Championship...does anyone confuse them for the World Tag Team Championship in use now [Please see note at the end of the post]? No! I am telling you, once and for all, and this is the last time I will say this so I hope you all can just believe me...the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, and the World Heavyweight Championship are not, ARE NOT, the same title. Thank you for your time.

[NOTE:] The World Tag Team Championships (currently on RAW) are actually the WWE Tag Team Championship, odd since they renamed them to World, and then held a tournament to crown the first WWE Tag Team Champions...why they did that? I'll never know...probably just to fuck with people.

[Kane Knight]

Then why did Batista say it was the same belt Ric Flair and Harley Race wore last night on Smackdown!?

Because the WWE can't keep its story straight

[BigChris]

I've heard wrestlers in other promotions rant on about how they have reached the ranks of people like Flair, Sting, and Hogan and had never even been in WCW or WWF.

Not the same thing. I could start my own wrestling promotion and say I was as good as Hogan and Flair, but that doesn't mean I have held the WWE World Heaveyweight title, which is the WCW title.

P.S. Think of it this way, it'd be like saying that Stone Cold Steve Austin was the only Smoking Skull World Champion, even though we all know it was the WWE Championship.

[redoneja]

P.S. Think of it this way, it'd be like saying that Stone Cold Steve Austin was the only Smoking Skull World Champion, even though we all know it was the WWE Championship.

LOL, you use this to show that the physical look of the belts are irrelavent to the actual titles, yet that is our arguement all along. Just because it looks like the old WCW belt, doesn't give it the lineage of that title. After the Invasion, the WCW title was re-named the WHC and was officially retired when Chris Jericho unified the WCW and WWE Championships. During the Brock Lesnar controversy, the name "Undisputed" title became disputed(no pun intended) after Eric Bischoff introduced a brand new World Heavyweight Championship to Raw and awarded it to HHH. The WWE title carries the same lineage as it did when it was called the "Undisputed Championship" the only thing that has changed is it disputability(if that is a word).

[McLegend]

The linage is completly different for the World Heavyweight title and the WCW world title.

The belt itself though was actually Flair's.

[John la Rock]

Right now the World Heavyweight Title hands down

JBL and John Cena shat on the WWE title legacy imo

[Optimistic T]

As for the original question... I'm really not sure which championship holds more meaning to me. They've both had some great champions over the years (Flair, Hogan, Savage, Hart, Michaels, Sting, Austin, Rock, Foley, DDP...) and some not so great ones (Arquette, Vince McMahon...)

As for the lineage of the World Heavyweight title, it's strictly opinion. WWE.com doesn't care to list the World Heavyweight Championship reign dating back past HHH's victory. Why? Probably because of stuff like Arquette, the fact that that the inVasion angle was a flop and that Vince doesn't like WCW and has and will rewrite their history where he sees fit.

It still, however, is opinion.

The fact is that Brock was Undisputed Champion. He signed solely to Smackdown which left Raw without a champion.

I personally feel from this point that when Bischoff introduced the World Heavyweight Championship, he was disputing the fact that Brock was Undisputed Champion since he wouldn't face Raw's number one contender in HHH. From there, he seperated the titles and awarded the WCW half to HHH, due to Brock not accepting HHH/Bischoff's challenge, who was a worthy adversary.

The whole thing was a "storybook/similar" version of what WWWF did with the NWA title in the first place (as well as AWA and WCW).

Again, though, it's opinion. You either see the WCW and/or InVasion lineage or you see HHH as the first champion. I remember some folks saying when WWF bought out WCW that none of the WCW Championships carried the lineage they had from that point forward. Again, that's just opinion.

[redoneja]

Its funny though because the WHC doesn't carry the lineage of the WCW title, yet the newly created WWE US Championship carries the lineage of the WCW US Championship.

[owenbrown]

According to Wrestling Information Archive... they have the WHC title history combined WITH the WCW championship.

[Disturbed316]

Its funny though because the WHC doesn't carry the lineage of the WCW title, yet the newly created WWE US Championship carries the lineage of the WCW US Championship.

They never said the WWE United States title was created, but brought back, so thats why it's got the history with it.

[wwefan4life]

the wwe will one day admit that the whc is the wcw title

[Disturbed316]

When will that be? When you own the company?

[Savio]

The WCW title and the World Heavyweight title are completly different titles. YES, they look the same, but they are DIFFERENT.I dunno the WWE contradicts it self a lot. Like when Goldberg held the WHC they said it was the 2nd Held held the belt.

[Kane Knight]

I dunno the WWE contradicts it self alot like when gold berg held it they said he was a 2 time champion.

But their official line is that it's a new belt.

See, there's the problem. Regardless of what they say, this line is truth, even though they do contradict it. It's not proof that the belt has the WCW's history, it's proof of the well-established fact that the WWE is chock full of contradictions, continuity errors, etc.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, a two time world champion, not WHC or WWE Champion. Look at Ric Flair, they call him the 16 time world champion, not WCW champion, not NWA champion, not WWE champion, not World Heavyweight Champion, but world champion.

[Disturbed316]

That didn't really add much to this argument. Anyway the point is, they are differernt titles, but still fall under the "Champion of the World" banner.

[Savio]

I Know I'm just saying the WWE went "Kanes story" by saying it was the 2nd time he held the belt.

[Savio]

Shut the fuck up SAVIOR

[Kane Knight]

Stop arguing with Savior, Savior.

[wwefan4life]

BASTARDS

[guddu]

the wwe championship is the biggest title in the sportz entertainment today
there's u'r answer:)

[Xero]

Oh Lord no...

[Executioner]

The World Heavyweight Title....whether its the WWE WHC, or the WCW WHC......hell even if its the late 1980s NWA WHC.....IMO it has the richest and most traced history

Besides....the WWE Championship was considered (and still is in some peoples eyes) a regional championship....much like the US title was in the NWA/WCW.

[Optimistic T]

The World Heavyweight Title....whether its the WWE WHC, or the WCW WHC......hell even if its the late 1980s NWA WHC.....IMO it has the richest and most traced history

Besides....the WWE Championship was considered (and still is in some peoples eyes) a regional championship....much like the US title was in the NWA/WCW.

Yeah, a good bit of people believe this for two main reasons. The first being that the WCW Championship has more of a straight lineage to the NWA Title than any other. The WCW Championship and the NWA Championship were tied together from WCW's beginning and past Flair's jump to WWF in September '91 until September '93 (including a spell in Japan by Chono and Muta until Windham won it, only to drop it back to Flair.) In September of '93, WCW vacated Flair of the NWA Championship and roughly a year later in August of '94, they put the belt on Douglas and we all know what happened then. Afterwards, they had many a "indie" and Japanese (read unknown to the average fan) champions thanks to a lack of TV deal including Candido and Dan Severn's 4+ year run from '95-'99 where he was also working WWF and not exactly setting the world on fire or helping the championship. Now the NWA's title has some exposure with Jarrett, but TNA and NWA have a deal for their World Champions (World and Tag) that will expire sometime in the late 2000's (2009, I believe... and TNA is already dropping a lot of the NWA affiliation, so I imagine Jarrett's belt will become the TNA World Championship if they make it that long)

Wow, this is getting long. Anyway, NWA's World Heavyweight Championship basically hit a mudslide in the 90's (and really, it started in the 80's with WCW) and fell off the map. Also as I alluded to earlier a lot of people don't see the WWF/E Championship as legit as it once won due to the fact that WWF changed the belts and names several times (I think most will agree the "Big Gold Belt" is still the most recognizable championship. It's nice TNA is using the old NWA belt, but really... a lot of people don't recognize it and while the tradition is nice, it sorta looks like something one of our uncles or grandfathers would've made us to play around with) Pair that together with WWF/E's growing emphasis over the years on "sports-entertainment" rather than "wrestling", even if you don't agree with the (WCW/World Heavyweight/Big Gold) being more important, you can see where these people are coming from.

Again, I personally don't really see either being more important as I mentioned before. However, I do like the look of the WCW belt more.