MATT HUGHES vs. ROYCE GRACIE

[Innovator]

In May...


IT'S ON

[Crimson]

Wow, I was shocked when they introduced him. Sorry to say though much how Franklin beat Shamrock, I think Hughes will destroy Gracie..too bad we can't go back in time and bring in the young Gracie.

[RP]

Well... That has my attention.

Royce Gracie may be old, but he might have been one of the greatest submission artest ever in fighting period. Thats a truely interesting fight. Hughes has a few pounds on him doesnt he?

[Innovator]

Well... That has my attention.

Royce Gracie may be old, but he might have been one of the greatest submission artest ever in fighting period. Thats a truely interesting fight. Hughes has a few pounds on him doesnt he?Hughes fights usually at 170, I think Gracie fought usually around 130-140, I'm probably off.

He looks a little bigger, maybe 155 now.

[Crimson]

I'm old school i'll be rooting for Gracie.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

How about the TUF fighters tonight. All stopped their opponents in the first round pretty damned easily.

[McLegend]

Damn a 11 seconds

[AareDub]

The official time on it was 11 seconds, but I can't for the life of me find out where the hell all 11 seconds are. Being as generous with time as possible I can only get about 8-9 secs.

Anyway, Hughes/Gracie should be interesting. I'm not expecting it to be quite as bad as Franklin/Shamrock, but I do expect Hughes to win without too much trouble (unless he gets hit in the nuts again :shifty: )

[punt]

I am hoping for it to be a good fight, though I think Hughes will walk through pretty easily.

[Rob]

Hughes fights usually at 170, I think Gracie fought usually around 130-140, I'm probably off.

He looks a little bigger, maybe 155 now.

Gracie usually fights at about 190lbs. He is naturally bigger than Hughes. Gracie is a very good submission fighter on his back and that is a position where Hughes has been submitted in before. I still like Hughes though. I think his stand up is too strong and his wrestling is obviously in another league.

[VonErich Lives]

So, what's brining these guys back?

Was it Coture beating Tito Ortiz?

Is it the UFC is making more money now and these guys can come back and have 1 or 2 big paydays which will make retirement easier?

What's the motivation?

Given, Gracie is only 39 (Coture is 41 or 42?), how long has he been retired?

Think it's a safe bet Severn doesn't come back at 47? :)

Wait, just read Ortiz & Shamrock are coach's for TUF season 3... that should be interesting. 2 coach's that aren't in a love fest with each other. Can't wait....

[Rob]

What's bringing these guys back is a combination of money and exposure. Some guys made more money before but they never had anywhere near the level of exposure and other oppotunities to make more money elsewhere.

Royce Gracie hasn't retired. He just fought on New Years Eve on the K-1 show.

TUF3 = :drool:

[Innovator]

Thanks for the correction Rob

Yeah Gracie has limited himself to only 1 or 2 fights per year, usually in K-1 or in other overseas promotions. I'm gonna take Hughes too, just because he can stand up and ground and pound against Gracie. But who knows, Gracie can surpise everyone.

[Joyrider]

The way Hughes is going, he should be a bigger legend than Gracie at 39.

I Think his MMA is already like 40-4-0, and he is in the best shape of his life.

Hughes has beaten guys like Hayato MachSakurai and Carlos Newton twice, not forgeting he has been around since UFC 22.

I would like to see Hughes v Penn 2 soon.

Also on a side note, can't wait for Coutoure v Liddell, but the undercard Isn't all that, looking forward to seeing what kind of shape Frank Mirr is in, cause Alovski is fucking good, and Keith Jardine V Mike Whitehead could be good.

[Rob]

I think Mir could be in trouble on Sunday. His style is BJJ and he is fighting a world champion Brazilian Ju-Jitsu fighter and Mir has already shown that he folds like origami under pressure from strong fighters e.g. Ian Freeman.

[Kris P Lettus]

Wow, I was shocked when they introduced him. Sorry to say though much how Franklin beat Shamrock, I think Hughes will destroy Gracie..too bad we can't go back in time and bring in the young Gracie.

Agreed..

I'm getting the PPV on Sat.. Who do yall think will take the Liddell/Couture rubberneck match??

[The CyNick]

To me its a pick em fight. I'm leaning towards Liddell, but I wouldn't be shocked if Randy won.

[Rob]

I want Randy but I can't see Chuck losing.

[Crimson]

I'll predict Chuck wins, along with the Seahawks.

[Rob]

I like the Seahawks too.