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Marc the Smark
01-18-2006, 04:57 PM
There are no great faces without great heels, and great heels come from great heel moments. So here's one of my favorites -

It was Wrestling Challenge or Superstars in the late 80's. The Million Dollar Man would come out each week, you'll recall, and challenge the audience to do something for money because he knew that "everyone had a price."

Well, this particular week he comes out with the same challenge to the audience. He and Virgil see a kid in the crowd and invite him up. This kid could't have been more than 6 or 7 years old. So, he goes up to podium where Dibiase is and the Million Dollar Man issues this challenge to the kid: "If you can dribble this basketball 10 times in a row...I will give you this $100 bill." So the kid is all entusiastic and the crowd is all behind this innocent little boy. The kid starts dribbling...1..2..3....the crowd gets behind the kid...4..5..6....the crowd counts down the last few bounces....7..8...he's gonna do it....9...and before the ball hits the ground the final time, Dibiase sticks his foot out and kicks the ball, thus making the kid fail the challenge.

But, what made it worse is that after the kid realized what had happened, his face looked as if he watched his puppy die a slow painful death. That was the most heat I had heard from a WWF crowd up to that moment. It was classic!

What are your favorite heel moments over the last 20 years?

FourFifty
01-18-2006, 05:16 PM
When Jake Roberts tied Randy Savage in the ropes and then had his snake bite Randy on the arm... You wanna talk about a crowd getting into the act? There were people freakin' crying at that!!!

Marc the Smark
01-18-2006, 05:24 PM
When Jake Roberts tied Randy Savage in the ropes and then had his snake bite Randy on the arm... You wanna talk about a crowd getting into the act? There were people freakin' crying at that!!!

GOOD ONE! :y:

Remember when Ravishing Rick Rude was talking with Cheryl Roberts in the crowd? Rude was saying how much she wanted him and then she slapped him across the face and then he grabbed her arm and Roberts came to the rescue?

Or Ken Patera, Big John Studd and Bobby Heenan knocking out Andre The Giant during a tag team match and cutting off Andre's long hair that he had for so many years? I'll never forget watching that on WWF SuperStars back in 1985 and everybody was in shock that these 3 men could do such a rotten thing. Patera carried Andre's hair in a little bag they had.

McLegend
01-18-2006, 05:43 PM
Steve Austin in Canada attacking Stu Hart

Mr. Nerfect
01-18-2006, 06:20 PM
The difference between John Cena & The Rock is that The Rock controsl the situation with the fans. His promo in Toronto proved it. He started abusing the crowd, and all they could do is boo, but it didn't matter, because Rock was completely shitting over them. When Cena gets booed, he just stands there looking on like some kind of retard. Granted, the WWE probably instructed him not to react, but it shows an inverse between them.

Anyway, The Rock's promo in Toronto was a great heel moment, because transcended just getting booed because the crowd didn't like what he was saying, but he was being booed as a defense of this city. If they didn't boo, Toronto would look pathetic, if they did, they still looked pathetic.

Y3J
01-18-2006, 06:22 PM
How dare you mention The Rock and. Cena in the same sentence.

Bad Company
01-18-2006, 07:06 PM
Has red hot scott been reading Ted Dibiase's book? :D

Evolution
01-18-2006, 07:17 PM
When Austin broke up the ankle lock on Booker T, gave Angle a Stunner and cost Team WWF the Inaugrual Brawl at InVasion.

Damn it feels good typing WWF again.

Enjay
01-18-2006, 08:08 PM
I was young when it happened, so it seemed really evil/kinda scary to me at the time: When Papa Shango made The Ultimate Warrior sick and vomit.

Also when Yokozuna busted Crush's chest with like 4 Banzai Drops.

Dorkchop
01-18-2006, 08:11 PM
I was young when it happened, so it seemed really evil/kinda scary to me at the time: When Papa Shango made The Ultimate Warrior sick and vomit.

I remember that. It looked like pea soup. I was at the show where the Warrior broke Shango's curse. That was awesome.

My Final Heaven
01-18-2006, 09:18 PM
Somebody posted something about this recently on the q&a boards: When Mr. Perfect smashed Hogan's title because he wouldn't give him a shot at it. I gave me goosebumps watching it when I was about 8. :D

RGWhat316
01-18-2006, 09:24 PM
I think a pretty good one was back in '03 in a steel cage match with Lesnar and Vince with Angle as a ref. Lesnar and Angle had the friendly rivalry, but finally Lesnar turned heel and destroyed Kurt in the cage.

mrslackalack
01-18-2006, 09:29 PM
[QUOTE=Red Hot Scott]There are no great faces without great heels, and great heels come from great heel moments. So here's one of my favorites -

It was Wrestling Challenge or Superstars in the late 80's. The Million Dollar Man would come out each week, you'll recall, and challenge the audience to do something for money because he knew that "everyone had a price."

Well, this particular week he comes out with the same challenge to the audience. He and Virgil see a kid in the crowd and invite him up. This kid could't have been more than 6 or 7 years old. So, he goes up to podium where Dibiase is and the Million Dollar Man issues this challenge to the kid: "If you can dribble this basketball 10 times in a row...I will give you this $100 bill." So the kid is all entusiastic and the crowd is all behind this innocent little boy. The kid starts dribbling...1..2..3....the crowd gets behind the kid...4..5..6....the crowd counts down the last few bounces....7..8...he's gonna do it....9...and before the ball hits the ground the final time, Dibiase sticks his foot out and kicks the ball, thus making the kid fail the challenge.

But, what made it worse is that after the kid realized what had happened, his face looked as if he watched his puppy die a slow painful death. That was the most heat I had heard from a WWF crowd up to that moment. It was classic!
QUOTE]

MDM said in his book that the kid was legit crying because he thought he wasnt going to get any money, so they took him backstage and gave him 500 bucks.

Nark Order
01-18-2006, 09:57 PM
HBK's turn on Hogan.

Maybe I'm a bit partial because i was there...

JH
01-18-2006, 09:59 PM
one of my favorite heel moments was when the LOD turned on Dusty and drove the spike into his eye
very unexpected heel turn and the fans were in shock

JH
01-18-2006, 09:59 PM
HBK's turn on Hogan.

Maybe I'm a bit partial because i was there...

i loved that
i busted out laughing

Nark Order
01-18-2006, 09:59 PM
I like all the 'lol' heel moments the best though.

Like when Repoman stole that kid's bike because his dad owed him money.

Also, the Doink vs Crush 'mirror trick' was hilarious and heel all at once.

John la Rock
01-18-2006, 10:22 PM
The difference between John Cena & The Rock is that The Rock controsl the situation with the fans. His promo in Toronto proved it. He started abusing the crowd, and all they could do is boo, but it didn't matter, because Rock was completely shitting over them. When Cena gets booed, he just stands there looking on like some kind of retard. Granted, the WWE probably instructed him not to react, but it shows an inverse between them.

Anyway, The Rock's promo in Toronto was a great heel moment, because transcended just getting booed because the crowd didn't like what he was saying, but he was being booed as a defense of this city. If they didn't boo, Toronto would look pathetic, if they did, they still looked pathetic.

best promo ever :y:

and i was there live. next to Rock/Hogan at X8 i've never seen a crowd be so vocal. we booed him to death cause he made us look like fools. The crowd completely died after that segment because Rock is such an amazing entertainer

John la Rock
01-18-2006, 10:23 PM
also HBK's promo in Montreal this past year

Savio
01-18-2006, 10:31 PM
Hassan prays to allah then Terrorists behead the undetaker.

FourFifty
01-18-2006, 10:32 PM
Ya know what I still love watching?

The moment The Rockers broke up. That still makes me laugh.
My twin brother and I both LOVED The Rockers. I always knew Shawn carried the team, while my bro thought Marty did it. This is before I knew wrestling was "fake" (God, I hate typing that word)

I've been a mark for HBK since.

John la Rock
01-18-2006, 10:32 PM
how how can i forget?

Hulk Hogan turning heel at Bash at the Beach and forming the NWO with Hall and Nash

BobBitchen
01-18-2006, 11:29 PM
nwo taking over the Broadcast location on wcw

XL
01-18-2006, 11:38 PM
I think turns always made the best heel the moments!

How about this one...Tatanka joining the Million Dollar Corporation after accusing Luger of selling out for months!

Or The Rock aligning himself with the McMahons after winning the title "against all odds" at Survivor Series 98!

James Steele
01-18-2006, 11:45 PM
WrestleMania X-Seven: Stone Cold sells his soul for the WWF Championship.

John la Rock
01-18-2006, 11:46 PM
also Shane McMahon's heel turn screwing Austin out of the title at Survivor Series 1998. 1, 2...... FUCK YOU AUSTIN

that cought me completely off guard. what an amazing twist

RGWhat316
01-18-2006, 11:55 PM
also HBK's promo in Montreal this past year
Ahhh yes, that was an awesome promo. I was LOL the whole time. "Now that you know who is running the show around here......."

John la Rock
01-19-2006, 12:01 AM
SHUT THE FUCK clap clap clap clap clap SHUT THE FUCK UP clap clap clap clap clap

amazing heel heat

The One
01-19-2006, 12:31 AM
Jerry Lawler coming to the ECW Arena.

James Steele
01-19-2006, 12:32 AM
Jerry Lawler coming to the ECW Arena.

Every time I watch that, I am amazed that Jerry Lawler survived.

wwe2222
01-19-2006, 09:36 AM
when HHH and HBK came out wearing DX shirts two or three years ago....and then HHH getting ready to do the DX suck it promo and instead kicking and pedigreeing shawn

Disturbed316
01-19-2006, 10:07 AM
Hogan's Bash turn is the greatest of all time.

Morgan
01-19-2006, 10:14 AM
The SCM to Hogan- I loved how the entire crowd just went silent for a second.
Pretty much everything Eddie did as a heel last year.

John la Rock
01-19-2006, 01:23 PM
I'm your papi Dominic!

Rammsteinmad
01-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Goldberg's heel turn. :shifty:

Russenmafia
01-19-2006, 05:57 PM
After the UK only PPV One Night Only when HBK beat the Bulldog. After winning the European title HBK, Chyna and HHH got pelted with so much debris it was unreal.

Chavo Classic
01-19-2006, 06:55 PM
When Owen Hart turned heel around '94 he'd bring his Hitman glasses to the ring, walk over to some kid on front row and go as if he were going to hand them over... then tear them up and stomp them into the ground.
Lol

Making kids cry has got to be the heel's best weapon

Chico
01-19-2006, 08:37 PM
Hogan's Bash turn is the greatest of all time.

:y:

mrslackalack
01-19-2006, 09:55 PM
I think Bulldogs heel turn in the summer of 95 on was shocking and unexpected as he was still teaming with Luger (who hadnt left yet) The main event on RAW was going to be the Allied Powers vs M.O.M. Well Diesel and Mabel was going to meet in Summerslam 95 for the title :nono: And Bulldog said he needed a partner because Lex had problems at the airport and Diesel accepted well during the match the Bulldog attacked Diesel and left with M.O.M and Jim Cornette.

John la Rock
01-20-2006, 03:12 AM
Also Kurt Angle's first WWE promo

Loose Cannon
01-20-2006, 11:49 PM
some good ones in here.

Savage crushing Steamboat's throat and the Horsemen breaking Dusty's leg were good ones not mentioned.

Avenger
01-21-2006, 05:15 AM
also Shane McMahon's heel turn screwing Austin out of the title at Survivor Series 1998. 1, 2...... FUCK YOU AUSTIN

that cought me completely off guard. what an amazing twistYES!

That was fucking awesome.

LK
01-21-2006, 12:20 PM
The Shane turn on Austin at Survivor Series - I never saw it coming. 1..2..two middle fingers right in his face.

The whole stuff between Raven, Sandman and Sandmans son was cool.

I loved the whole Eddie heel turn last year.

LK
01-21-2006, 12:22 PM
Oh yeah and when HHH turned on DX at WM 15, just for the sheer shock value.

John la Rock
01-21-2006, 12:44 PM
Oh yeah and when HHH turned on DX at WM 15, just for the sheer shock value.

Yes :y:

this heel turn was the good. We all thought that Chyna rejoined HHH in DX but HHH actually joined Chyna in the Corporation. another great twist

Fox
01-22-2006, 12:29 AM
-WCW: 1998. DDP vs. Bret Hart for the US Title on Nitro. Hart comes out to the ring with a knee brace on (I think he was really hurt), and says he doesn't want to defend his title tonight, but because of the 90 day defense clause, he has to defend it or he'll get stripped, so bring out DDP. Page comes out, and The Giant (Big Show) attacks him from behind, then chokeslams him through the stage. Bret just kind of looks on with this shit-eating grin. "I guess I retain my title then." Awesome heel heat.

- Right after the Alliance vs. WWE angle finished out, Austin was a major face. Any heel who challenged the fan's "WHAT?!" chants got major heel heat:

KURT ANGLE: "Say 'what' if your mothers a whore! That's what I thought!"


-HBK and HHH's antics against Sgt. Slaughter during the first era of DX.

Shadow
01-22-2006, 12:35 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm....Matt Hardy's turn on Lita. Back when they both didn't suck.

That was such a long time ago too.

Innovator
01-22-2006, 02:14 AM
Raven pulling Sandman's kid into the feud

D Mac
01-22-2006, 02:29 AM
Tugboat turning on the Bushwackers and joining Earthquake.

Hired Hitman
01-22-2006, 08:14 AM
-WCW: 1998. DDP vs. Bret Hart for the US Title on Nitro. Hart comes out to the ring with a knee brace on (I think he was really hurt), and says he doesn't want to defend his title tonight, but because of the 90 day defense clause, he has to defend it or he'll get stripped, so bring out DDP. Page comes out, and The Giant (Big Show) attacks him from behind, then chokeslams him through the stage. Bret just kind of looks on with this shit-eating grin. "I guess I retain my title then." Awesome heel heat.

- Right after the Alliance vs. WWE angle finished out, Austin was a major face. Any heel who challenged the fan's "WHAT?!" chants got major heel heat:

KURT ANGLE: "Say 'what' if your mothers a whore! That's what I thought!"


-HBK and HHH's antics against Sgt. Slaughter during the first era of DX. And the Undertaker saying "Say what if you like to sleep with your sister" "whaaa-huh?!?" :cool:

Loose Cannon
01-22-2006, 09:08 AM
Speaking of Hart and WCW turns.

Bret/Hogan on Nitro. Bret gets "injured" during the match and Sting comes out and takes his place. Bret gets taken to the back n a stretcher by Konnan, Luger and medical guys. Steiner and Bagwell attack Konnan and Luger. Bret gets off the stretcher and heads to the ring. Sting puts Hogan in the Deathlock. Bret acts like he's cheering Sting, then DDT's him. Then Bret attacks Sting and him and Hogan embrace

Y3J
01-22-2006, 09:25 AM
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the McMahon's at WM 16 was cool.

The Naitch
01-22-2006, 02:50 PM
WrestleMania X-Seven: Stone Cold sells his soul for the WWF Championship.

nah

the crowd loved it, if anything, Vince turned face

redoneja
01-22-2006, 03:27 PM
When WCW was doing those outdoor shows in Florida in the summer of 1996 and the original 3 of the nWo attacked some WCW guys in the production area. Nash picked up Rey Mysterio and threw him like a dart into a production trailer.

James Steele
01-22-2006, 06:08 PM
nah

the crowd loved it, if anything, Vince turned face

I know, I live in Texas. Stone Cold is a god in this state. I just figured all you people who live in pathetic little pissant states would hate Stone Cold for it.

starfox8500
01-22-2006, 06:24 PM
how how can i forget?

Hulk Hogan turning heel at Bash at the Beach and forming the NWO with Hall and Nash

*^&% yeah, such a great moment. I think what made it great was that the fans threw stuff inside the ring.

Since then at er..03's unforgiven he threw a fry at angle and he got escorted out the arena

rob11
01-22-2006, 06:43 PM
Raven pulling Sandman's kid into the feud
The kid could act better than most in the WWE today.

Azriel
01-22-2006, 10:36 PM
I loved when Taker turned uber-dark heel and formed the Ministry

Hired Hitman
01-22-2006, 11:23 PM
I was 1/2 thinking about becoming a goth thanks to the ministry. cool bastards.

wwe2222
01-23-2006, 12:14 PM
when HBK was named commissoner for the first time in 98...he gave Xpac a title match against the rock on raw...

and then pretended he was gonna go after Rock with a steel chair and nailed XPac instead.