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Dave Youell
02-01-2006, 07:35 AM
Spike TV is preparing to announce that TNA iMPACT! will move to a Thursday night primetime slot.

If Spike TV does go through with the move, the night would reportedly see TNA from 8-9PM followed by two hours of to-be-determined UFC programming.

This news comes on the heels of the strong 1.1 rating for this past Saturday's edition of the TNA television show.

Credit PWtorch.com

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Just deserts for a continuously improving product

Savio
02-01-2006, 07:47 AM
Ugh I'd do this after survivor season.

Londoner
02-01-2006, 09:47 AM
Like I said, they're heading in the right direction.

94 SVT Cobra
02-01-2006, 10:07 AM
i want to see what happens whent he wrestler turned bible thumper doesnt show up anymore.

Savio
02-01-2006, 02:36 PM
Ummmmmm Hardy?

Yashamaga
02-01-2006, 02:53 PM
So Sting pretty much got them to primetime with one appearance.


Sting is god.

TerranRich
02-01-2006, 02:53 PM
KENNEDEEEEHHHHHHH....

You've got a nice head.

Schoenauer
02-01-2006, 03:24 PM
Wow, Sting shows up and TNA's ratings boost... who else could boost TNA's ratings with just 1 appearance?

loopydate
02-01-2006, 03:26 PM
Hogan
Austin
Rock
Undertaker
Goldberg
Bret Hart

Of course, none of those would happen, but there would certainly be a ratings boost.

Batsu
02-01-2006, 03:30 PM
YES. At long last. Wrestling on Thursday nights again.
I don't care if it's a Jarrett-X-Pac main event...it's a lot better than having to stay up on Saturday nights just to watch the show.

The Naitch
02-01-2006, 03:47 PM
once TNA actually shows up on Vince's radar, Vince will just pull out the big guns and blow the motherfucker up

Xero
02-01-2006, 03:48 PM
YES. At long last. Wrestling on Thursday nights again.
I don't care if it's a Jarrett-X-Pac main event...it's a lot better than having to stay up on Saturday nights just to watch the show.

Xero
02-01-2006, 03:49 PM
Plus if they move before SNME, the WWE will lose stealing TNA's audience.

D Mac
02-01-2006, 03:49 PM
Guess we'll be seeing a TNA-WWE invasion angle soon. After Vince deals with this.

Kane Knight
02-01-2006, 03:53 PM
once TNA actually shows up on Vince's radar, Vince will just pull out a .22 caliber and blow the motherfucker up

Volchok
02-01-2006, 03:55 PM
Ohhhhhh thank you, It'll be just like the old WCW days when Raw gets moved to thursday for the Dog Show on USA... TNA then I can watch Raw.

Kane Knight
02-01-2006, 04:16 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

PullMyFinger
02-01-2006, 05:19 PM
Guess we'll be seeing a TNA-WWE invasion angle soon. After Vince deals with this.
lol Ass.

Loose Cannon
02-01-2006, 07:19 PM
legend, why haven't you posted in this thread? you know you are going nuts.

McLegend
02-01-2006, 07:21 PM
I don't know, but I am pretty happy about the announcement.

Savio
02-01-2006, 07:37 PM
Whens the move taking place?

McLegend
02-01-2006, 07:44 PM
After scoring its highest rating to date on Saturday night with a 1.1 for the debut of Sting, TNA and Spike officials are meeting in New York today regarding a prime time weeknight time slot.

According to sources, days discussed are both Monday and Thursday. One would suspect Thursday as the frontrunner, given all UFC first-run programming starting on 4/6 would be moved to Thursday. Thursday leading into UFC programming would be the most likely decision. It had been considered, even without the big rating, that a move was likely ever since the decision was made for the Tito Ortiz/Ken Shamrock season three of Ultimate Fighter to be on Thursdays at 11 p.m. Most likely, TNA would provide lead-in programming to UFC (which could be as early as 8 p.m.) due to the audience similarity.

From the Observer.

So April most likily

Pinnacle Charisma
02-01-2006, 07:51 PM
once TNA actually shows up on Vince's radar, Vince will just pull out the big guns and blow the motherfucker up


What big guns??

John Cena a man who is meant to be the no.1 face in the company is having trouble trying to get the fans not too boo him out of the building.

HHH the man who has been saying the same promo for the last 5 years?

A washed up "deadman', Mark Henry or the royal rumble winner who the company dont have enough faith in to give him the main event at wrestlemania.

Or the former wwe champion who was only treated as a way to get thier untalented hack from being booed out of a building.

Quality storytelling and logical plots cant be the big guns because well lets face it Vinnie Mac dosnt even know what the hell they are.

Yeah Vince is going to blow them out of the water alright.

I know the wwe is better than TNA at the moment but some people are treating the wwe like they are the most entertaining tv show in the world.

The Naitch
02-01-2006, 08:53 PM
all Vince needs is his Super Soaker 200 to kill off TNA

Kane Knight
02-01-2006, 08:55 PM
all Vince needs is his Super Soaker .200 to kill off TNA

The Naitch
02-01-2006, 08:55 PM
but yeah what I meant is that once Vince feels that TNA is becoming a threat, he'll probably step things up with creative or whatever. Now he doesnt have to worry about competition so it's like they're not even trying

Once Jarret Mountain comes close to what WCW was, then they'll probably bring out the Super Soakers and water balloons

The Naitch
02-01-2006, 08:56 PM
or buy them out, leaving most TNA Superstars on Heat and Velocity

Skippord
02-01-2006, 09:01 PM
YES. At long last. Wrestling on Thursday nights again.
I don't care if it's a Jarrett-X-Pac main event...it's a lot better than having to stay up on Saturday nights just to watch the show.

Chris Sabin for the Main Event

Kane Knight
02-01-2006, 09:15 PM
but yeah what I meant is that once Vince feels that TNA is becoming a threat, he'll probably step things up with creative or whatever. Now he doesnt have to worry about competition so it's like they're not even trying

Once Jarret Mountain comes close to what WCW was, then they'll probably bring out the Super Soakers and water balloons

Yeah, it's pretty much a given that WWE will do one of two things


1. Step up the programming. I see this happening only if they feel they have no other resort.

2. Buy out the competition. I see this happening already, as they're supposedly buying out indy wrestlers to prevent their use in TNA.

Volchok
02-01-2006, 09:18 PM
BTW I really don't like Sabins new look, But Alex Shelly on the other hand is becomming one of my favorites, his new look is pretty sweet.

Skippord
02-01-2006, 09:27 PM
Yeah Sabin looks kinda gay with his new hair

McLegend
02-01-2006, 09:28 PM
Sabin sprained his ankle

Skippord
02-01-2006, 09:32 PM
:'(

St. Jimmy
02-01-2006, 09:36 PM
i am ever so elated... =/

Dorkchop
02-01-2006, 09:57 PM
This is very good for TNA, but bad for Canadian wrestling fans. I get Smackdown Thursdays from 8-10. I really do not want to flick through both shows. I just want to watch them both. Why doesn't wrestling air on Tuesday or Wednesday? GAW!

mrslackalack
02-01-2006, 09:58 PM
I bet Don West will say its the biggest wrestling news in history.

The Naitch
02-01-2006, 09:58 PM
what are you talking about, Dorky? SD! airs Thursdays AND Fridays in Canada

Thursdays - The Score
Fridays - UPN

loopydate
02-01-2006, 10:01 PM
I bet Don West will say its the biggest wrestling news in history.

TNA ON THURSDAY NIGHTS?!? MY GOD, MIKE, THAT IS SO BIZARRE!

mrslackalack
02-01-2006, 10:03 PM
Yeah Sabin looks kinda gay with his new hair
:y:

McLegend
02-01-2006, 10:05 PM
West should pimp his merchandise during Impact. That's ratings right there.

Skippord
02-01-2006, 10:08 PM
West should Kill himself in the ring.Thats ratings

Skippord
02-01-2006, 10:09 PM
Or Chris Sabin going over Jeff Jarret for the title

mrslackalack
02-01-2006, 10:16 PM
I'd like to see Sabin get a push.

Skippord
02-01-2006, 10:18 PM
new Sig

Kane Knight
02-01-2006, 10:38 PM
TNA ON THURSDAY NIGHTS?!? THIS IS THE GREATEST NEWS IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!

Dorkchop
02-01-2006, 11:17 PM
what are you talking about, Dorky? SD! airs Thursdays AND Fridays in Canada

Thursdays - The Score
Fridays - UPN

I don't get UPN.

Fryza
02-02-2006, 11:17 AM
What's with all this UFC shit?

6to1
02-02-2006, 01:00 PM
well they are playing csi reruns on thur nights now might as well put 1st run tna shows atleast it will be tivoed alot, and nelson is counting tivo now.

crock69
02-02-2006, 01:34 PM
This can be good especially for fans that were used to watching wrestling on Thurs nights. We will see if they can start pulling in some 2.0 ratings, that would be smackdown numbers right there.

Hardkore Kidd J
02-02-2006, 01:45 PM
This is pretty good news. I believe more people would be watching it if it were given a primetime spot on a Thursday.

PorkSoda
02-02-2006, 02:08 PM
By switching to Thursday night at 8 will definitly attract more viewers, like me.

Imagine if Smackdown was still on Thursday nights when this happenes.......

Kane Knight
02-02-2006, 02:46 PM
What's with all this UFC shit?

Their best rated programming?

Kane Knight
02-02-2006, 02:47 PM
By switching to Thursday night at 8 will definitly attract more viewers, like me.

Imagine if Smackdown was still on Thursday nights when this happenes.......

You act like that's a positive thing for TNA. They'd get eaten alive.

Arnold HamNegger
02-02-2006, 03:11 PM
I for one think TNA should move to Monday's directly opposing RAW. The sheer crap that WWE is putting out will automatically boost ratings for Impact. I for one would love to be able to turn the channel on Monday's if RAW is sucking like a porn star and STILL be able to watch wrestling (yes, I miss the Monday Night Wars). TNA wouldn't even have to advertise that heavily, because a majority of it would occur via the internet and word of mouth among wrestling fans. I counted at least 10 times on Monday that I wanted to kick the TV in out of frustration for what feces the WWE creative team is dishing out to us on a regular basis. TNA should wise up and use what is right there in front of them every week to boost their ratings...and that's WWE garbage. Give wrestling fans another alternative for Monday's and I'll give you a better wrestling product in both companies. WWE's stagnation as a result of a lack of competition is killing wrestling as we know it. And for the love of God, RAW was in Orlando...TNA's home turf and NOT ONE TNA CHANT? I understand about no signs, because Vince has them confiscated, but speak up people! I especially was expecting a TNA chant during the HBK/Vince long winded segment when Shawn was running through his list of options. But yet nothing. If TNA wants to be taken seriously, they need to step up and take on the bull horns first. Thursday night just isn't going to cut it.

Hardkore Kidd J
02-02-2006, 03:56 PM
I for one think TNA should move to Monday's directly opposing RAW. The sheer crap that WWE is putting out will automatically boost ratings for Impact. I for one would love to be able to turn the channel on Monday's if RAW is sucking like a porn star and STILL be able to watch wrestling (yes, I miss the Monday Night Wars). TNA wouldn't even have to advertise that heavily, because a majority of it would occur via the internet and word of mouth among wrestling fans. I counted at least 10 times on Monday that I wanted to kick the TV in out of frustration for what feces the WWE creative team is dishing out to us on a regular basis. TNA should wise up and use what is right there in front of them every week to boost their ratings...and that's WWE garbage. Give wrestling fans another alternative for Monday's and I'll give you a better wrestling product in both companies. WWE's stagnation as a result of a lack of competition is killing wrestling as we know it. And for the love of God, RAW was in Orlando...TNA's home turf and NOT ONE TNA CHANT? I understand about no signs, because Vince has them confiscated, but speak up people! I especially was expecting a TNA chant during the HBK/Vince long winded segment when Shawn was running through his list of options. But yet nothing. If TNA wants to be taken seriously, they need to step up and take on the bull horns first. Thursday night just isn't going to cut it.

I personally do not think TNA could succedd if it was given the same timeslot as Raw. Personally it's not even remotely close to what WCW was. And WCW was buried by WWE. Because it was on the same slot as RAW. About the TNA chants I don't know why nobody was chanting TNA if it was a Smackdown I'd understand because since Smackdown is taped earlier they would of just edited out the TNA chants. I like the way you think but if a company like WCW and ECW couldn't compete with WWE without dieing there's no way TNA could survive.

Kane Knight
02-02-2006, 04:22 PM
I for one think TNA should move to Monday's directly opposing RAW. The sheer crap that WWE is putting out will automatically boost ratings for Impact. I for one would love to be able to turn the channel on Monday's if RAW is sucking like a porn star and STILL be able to watch wrestling (yes, I miss the Monday Night Wars). TNA wouldn't even have to advertise that heavily, because a majority of it would occur via the internet and word of mouth among wrestling fans. I counted at least 10 times on Monday that I wanted to kick the TV in out of frustration for what feces the WWE creative team is dishing out to us on a regular basis. TNA should wise up and use what is right there in front of them every week to boost their ratings...and that's WWE garbage. Give wrestling fans another alternative for Monday's and I'll give you a better wrestling product in both companies. WWE's stagnation as a result of a lack of competition is killing wrestling as we know it. And for the love of God, RAW was in Orlando...TNA's home turf and NOT ONE TNA CHANT? I understand about no signs, because Vince has them confiscated, but speak up people! I especially was expecting a TNA chant during the HBK/Vince long winded segment when Shawn was running through his list of options. But yet nothing. If TNA wants to be taken seriously, they need to step up and take on the bull horns first. Thursday night just isn't going to cut it.

Have you ever considered living in reality?

PullMyFinger
02-02-2006, 04:23 PM
Well, to be quite fair, WCW didn't die because of WWE. WCW died because of stupid decisions, and the AOL/Time Warner merger. WCW kicked WWEs ass for a long time, and even though WCW had it's low points, I still liked WCW.

However, TNA should in NO WAY go to Monday Nights now. In the future I'd like to see them go - 2/3 years, but not now. When they start touring and grow their fan base, get out of that debt hole, etc. then yeah.

You don't have to necessarily die from a Monday Night War, in fact, both companies can succeed greatly as the past has proven that.

I still wish TNA would change their name to a more traditional W- something named company. WAW World Action Wrestling, or something..idk, but the name TNA just doesn't look too appealing and can send the wrong message. But...I think it's a little too late to change it now.

PullMyFinger
02-02-2006, 04:23 PM
Have you ever considered living in reality?
Good call, but I assumed he was acting that way on purpose.

Arnold HamNegger
02-02-2006, 06:14 PM
And WCW was buried by WWE. Because it was on the same slot as RAW. I like the way you think but if a company like WCW and ECW couldn't compete with WWE without dieing there's no way TNA could survive.

I'm glad you mentioned WCW, because you're going to help me prove my point. WCW damn near drove WWE out of business as a result of the Monday Night Wars. Guess how that started? WCW had a very low rated show on Saturday nights (sound familiar) and Billionaire Ted had a meeting with Bischoff and asked him, "How can we compete with WWF?" Bishcoff's reply, "Give me 2 hours and put me on Monday Night."

Now Bishcoff admits that he never thought Ted would do it, because going up against RAW was CRAZY! But had WCW gone on Thurday night and not Monday, they never would have flourished the way they did at one time. Let's not forget, WCW dominated WWF for a long time and almost caused them to go belly up.

The reason I believe TNA should go on Monday and the reason WCW blossomed in that spot directly opposing RAW is simple. The majority of wrestling fans commit themselves to watching wrestling on Monday nights, no matter how shitty the product is. Therefore, the entire wrestling market that you are trying to draw viewers from is already sitting on there ass and committed to wrestling on Monday night. Harcore TNA fans are going to watch Impact regardless if it's on Monday or Thursday, so you aren't going to lose any ratings by going on against RAW. They aren't going to gain any ratings by being on Thursday night, because the same fans that already go out of there way to watch on Saturday nights or Late Monday replay, are going to be the majority of their audience. Most WWE fans are not going to go out of their way to change their lives/viewing habits just because TNA is now on Thursday. The best way to increase ratings for TNA is to draw the WWE viewers (which is the majority of the tv watching wrestling fans) on the night that they have already committed to watching wrestling.

This is why WCW outgrew WWE/WWF. They offered the wrestling fans something different on Monday nights and alot of them jumped ship to WCW and stayed there for a long time. Why is TNA any different?

loopydate
02-02-2006, 06:52 PM
I'm glad you mentioned WCW, because you're going to help me prove my point. WCW damn near drove WWE out of business as a result of the Monday Night Wars. Guess how that started? WCW had a very low rated show on Saturday nights (sound familiar) and Billionaire Ted had a meeting with Bischoff and asked him, "How can we compete with WWF?" Bishcoff's reply, "Give me 2 hours and put me on Monday Night."

Now Bishcoff admits that he never thought Ted would do it, because going up against RAW was CRAZY! But had WCW gone on Thurday night and not Monday, they never would have flourished the way they did at one time. Let's not forget, WCW dominated WWF for a long time and almost caused them to go belly up.

The reason I believe TNA should go on Monday and the reason WCW blossomed in that spot directly opposing RAW is simple. The majority of wrestling fans commit themselves to watching wrestling on Monday nights, no matter how shitty the product is. Therefore, the entire wrestling market that you are trying to draw viewers from is already sitting on there ass and committed to wrestling on Monday night. Harcore TNA fans are going to watch Impact regardless if it's on Monday or Thursday, so you aren't going to lose any ratings by going on against RAW. They aren't going to gain any ratings by being on Thursday night, because the same fans that already go out of there way to watch on Saturday nights or Late Monday replay, are going to be the majority of their audience. Most WWE fans are not going to go out of their way to change their lives/viewing habits just because TNA is now on Thursday. The best way to increase ratings for TNA is to draw the WWE viewers (which is the majority of the tv watching wrestling fans) on the night that they have already committed to watching wrestling.

This is why WCW outgrew WWE/WWF. They offered the wrestling fans something different on Monday nights and alot of them jumped ship to WCW and stayed there for a long time. Why is TNA any different?

The big difference between TNA and WCW is that WCW had Ted Turner's money, so they could build big, expensive sets and get top-notch production people. They could tour the country and, shortly, the world. They had the money to throw at big-time free agents. They had just picked up the biggest star in the history of the industry, Hulk Hogan, the previous year.

TNA has none of that. They're in debt. They can't afford to leave the Impact Zone. They can't afford Hulk Hogan. They can't afford The Rock. They can't afford Steve Austin. They can't afford top-tier production people/equipment/etc.

So, like has been said, in a couple of years, maybe. But right now, TNA just doesn't have the infrastructure in place to compete with WWE. But a prime-time slot on a non-WWE night could be a great boon to them. They can bring in new fans. New fans bring in more money. More money means they can pull themselves out of debt. Pulling themselves out of debt means they can start to improve their production quality. Improved production quality will attract the big-name stars. The big-name stars will attract even more new fans.

Then they can compete with WWE.

PullMyFinger
02-02-2006, 06:56 PM
I agree, then and only then can they compete with WWE.

TNA has deep pockets too, however, they choose not to go the WCW route and spend spend spend. First, they're planning to get themeselves outta that debt, then they'll spend a whole lot more.

Arnold HamNegger
02-02-2006, 07:33 PM
[QUOTE=loopydate]They could tour the country and, shortly, the world. They had the money to throw at big-time free agents. They had just picked up the biggest star in the history of the industry, Hulk Hogan, the previous year.[/QUOTE=loopydate]

I agree with the touring part, but they do seem to have some money to spend. Before WCW picked up Hogan, Hall and Nash jumped ship. Would they have came to WCW if they were on Thursday night? Arguably NO. All of this happened because they were in the primest of prime wrestling TV spots on Monday Night and they got noticed by going directly against RAW.

[QUOTE=loopydate]They can't afford Hulk Hogan. They can't afford The Rock. They can't afford Steve Austin. They can't afford top-tier production people/equipment/etc./[/QUOTE=loopydate]

All of those wrestlers you mentioned come along once in a lifetime. One could argue that WWE doesn't have anyone with that drawing power right now either. As far as top-teir production people/equipment, etc. TNA doesn't need that. What they have to offer RIGHT NOW is workrate and everything that WWE is lacking, which is what alot of fans are craving and the reason they are disgusted with WWE. Plus they have young talent who are beginning to blossom. Alot of wrestling fans appreciate that more than big name talent that uses the same move set and has the same subpar workrate. Some people would rather watch Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels.....rather than Hulk Hogan vs. Austin.

[QUOTE=loopydate]TNA just doesn't have the infrastructure in place to compete with WWE. But a prime-time slot on a non-WWE night could be a great boon to them. They can bring in new fans. New fans bring in more money. More money means they can pull themselves out of debt.[/QUOTE=loopydate]

TNA doesn't need to be competitive with WWE right now in ratings and they won't in the beginning. But what you said about bringing in more fans, etc. is my whole arguement for Monday night. They have a better chance to expand their audience by being on Monday night, not Thursday. Bottom line is I believe that the fastest track to accomplish all that you are saying is to be available on wrestling's most watched night....which is Monday. They have nothing to lose. It's not like they are going to lose their core audience and dip below the ratings they currently have. Those people are committed to TNA and will watch Monday.

Look at it this way, is it easier for me to sell you a car that you may not be familiar with if you are already in the dealership on Monday, or try to get you to schedule an appointment and come back in on Thursday? Wrestling fans are in the dealership on Monday's.

loopydate
02-02-2006, 07:39 PM
Look at it this way, is it easier for me to sell you a car that you may not be familiar with if you are already in the dealership on Monday, or try to get you to schedule an appointment and come back in on Thursday? Wrestling fans are in the dealership on Monday's.

I'm already at the BMW dealership. Why would I want to buy this Gremlin you're trying to sell me?

PullMyFinger
02-02-2006, 07:46 PM
lol Pinto.

Arnold HamNegger
02-02-2006, 08:05 PM
I'm already at the BMW dealership. Why would I want to buy this Gremlin you're trying to sell me?

Because if you test drove a BMW maintained by Vince McMahon, it would look all nice and glossed up, but it would run like shit.

Dorkchop
02-03-2006, 03:33 AM
TNA would die if they went to Monday night. Why do they need to directly compete with the WWE? HMMMMMM? I like TNA, but their storylines are craptastic. WHy can't they be just another good wrestling promotion?

They could only directly compete when they've built the company up a lot and is not viewed as the WWE reject federation. AND they could only directly compete when wrestling in on a big rise again... which won't happen for at least a couple of more years.

Londoner
02-03-2006, 04:41 AM
I personally don't see the harm in TNA moving to monday nights, ok I don't live in the US so you might say it doesnt matter to me, but infact it does since if they were on monday nights, WWE would start to take notice and hopefully step up their game(though i don't have much confidence in the WWE writers, so I doubt that would happen but TNA would definately step up theirs).TNA being on thursday is doing nothing at the moment as far as the industry is concerned, Arnold has a good point that wrestling is mostly watched on monday nights, and the best way to get ratings would be to give fans an alternative while the WWE is in the shithole.

A normal WWE mark is not going to give a fuck about TNA when its on thursdays.

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 08:51 AM
The show's broken records at a 1.1 . Why would they take notice of that over, say, reruns of McGyver (Which pulls in about a 1.0 according to Spike) or CSI?

loopydate
02-03-2006, 09:35 AM
Exactly. WWE won't "take notice" of TNA until people start watching it. And people won't start watching it if it's on opposite RAW.

I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

Arnold HamNegger
02-03-2006, 02:53 PM
They could only directly compete when they've built the company up a lot and is not viewed as the WWE reject federation. AND they could only directly compete when wrestling in on a big rise again... which won't happen for at least a couple of more years.

I would argue your point by saying that a big rise will not occur in wrestling again UNLESS THERE'S DIRECT COMPETITION. TNA will be built up faster as a result of this competition. They won't die, as I've stated before, because their main audience that is TNA dedicated will watch them on Monday's over RAW anyway, therefor the ratings will never dip below what they have now. They will expand FASTER because WWE fans will now have another option on Mondays to watch wrestling. This is EXACTLY what happened with WCW. If WCW followed your advice Dorkchop, there never would have been a rise in wrestling via the Monday Night Wars, because without competition...THERE'S NO WAR. NO WAR means no pressure on WWE to improve their product. The Monday Night Wars didn't occur IMMEDIATELY when WCW went from Saturday's to Monday's...it was a progression. But they grew so fast because WWF loyal fans that became bored now had another wrestling option on Monday's. When the checked out WCW and liked what they were seeing, they then tuned in to WCW first...not WWF. That's how WCW eventually dominated them in the ratings. WCW didn't win new viewers, they stole WWF's viewers. THAT COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF WCW WAS ON THURSDAY INSTEAD OF MONDAY!!!! That is the point I'm trying to make. And you can bring up Billionaire Ted and how that was the reason they succeeded and why TNA will fail, but then I will say that's bullshit. WWE's product is so much worse now than it was pre-Monday Night Wars, that it won't take the high production product that was Monday Nitro to steal viewers away from WWE on Monday's.

Man, this argument is like a dog chasing his tail. It's kind of pointless because obviously TNA is going to Thursday nights. All this is going to do is prolong the process of 'competion' that MUST OCCUR in order for wrestling to thrive again. Vince and WWE aren't going to give to shit's about TNA on Thursday nights because no matter how high TNA's ratings are ON THURSDAY...that's not going to hurt WWE's ratings on Monday's. People aren't going to stop watching RAW just because they discover TNA on Thursday nights....and WWE will not feel the urge to improve their product until they lose viewers to another company. That can only happen if you are on Monday nights.


Exactly. WWE won't "take notice" of TNA until people start watching it. And people won't start watching it if it's on opposite RAW.

I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

That's complete bullshit. Yeah, sure the RAW marks might stay loyal...but you're forgetting all the WCW and ECW faithful viewers THAT HAVE NO CHOICE but to watch RAW now on Monday's BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION!!! These people might jump at the chance to watch something other than RAW on Monday's. I don't see why THAT'S so hard to understand.

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 06:31 PM
That's complete bullshit. Yeah, sure the RAW marks might stay loyal...but you're forgetting all the WCW and ECW faithful viewers THAT HAVE NO CHOICE but to watch RAW now on Monday's BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION!!! These people might jump at the chance to watch something other than RAW on Monday's. I don't see why THAT'S so hard to understand.

That's utterly retarded. And I say that in the nicest way I can...Which is to say, your mom should have stabbed harder with that coathanger.

Arnold HamNegger
02-03-2006, 06:39 PM
That's utterly retarded. And I say that in the nicest way I can...Which is to say, your mom should have stabbed harder with that coathanger.

OK, so it looks like you're obviously a brainwashed McMahonite that believes wrestling IS and always HAS BEEN WWE/WWF. The possiblity of a WCW and ECW loyal following is impossible right? And it's even more completely out of the realm of possiblity that these WCW/ECW people just love wrestling period, but NEVER used to watch RAW. But now that's their only option if they want to watch televised wrestling on Monday's. You're an ignorant jackass. It's easy to insult someone's opinion, but you don't even make an argument to back it up. Why don't you go dry hump a chainsaw and then douche with hydrochloric acid you complete waste of a sperm shot.

PullMyFinger
02-03-2006, 06:44 PM
OK, so it looks like you're obviously a brainwashed McMahonite that believes wrestling IS and always HAS BEEN WWE/WWF. The possiblity of a WCW and ECW loyal following is impossible right? And it's even more completely out of the realm of possiblity that these WCW/ECW people just love wrestling period, but NEVER used to watch RAW. But now that's their only option if they want to watch televised wrestling on Monday's. You're an ignorant jackass. It's easy to insult someone's opinion, but you don't even make an argument to back it up. Why don't you go dry hump a chainsaw and then douche with hydrochloric acid you complete waste of a sperm shot.
You're a fucking moron.

I fucking hate that shit people say "so you must be pro WWE!"

Arnold HamNegger
02-03-2006, 06:53 PM
You're a fucking moron.

I fucking hate that shit people say "so you must be pro WWE!"

Well, maybe if Mr. Brilliant would write a post that's longer than 1 fucking sentence people would know his opinion. All the guy does is flame people, but adds nothing relevant to the argument. Is this done in effort to hide his stupidity? Pull your pants up and get Kane's dick out of your ass PMF.

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 06:57 PM
OK, so it looks like you're obviously a brainwashed McMahonite that believes wrestling IS and always HAS BEEN WWE/WWF.

It looks like you have obviously never ever read a single post I've made.

It also looks like you lack the fundamental understanding to grasp the concept that I don't want to see TNA on monday nights because I actually want them to grow. That somehow makes me pro-WWE in your eyes? Because I acknowledge that placing a show that broke records with a 1.1 rating might be better served by not going up against a show with roughly 5 times the attraction power, even when it sucks ass?

Yeah, I really hate TNA so much I'd rather see it grow. :roll:

Or, to dumb it down for you (And I owe Steele a nickel here):

SHUT UP YOU IGNORANT ASS!!!!!

loopydate
02-03-2006, 06:57 PM
OK, so it looks like you're obviously a brainwashed McMahonite that believes wrestling IS and always HAS BEEN WWE/WWF. The possiblity of a WCW and ECW loyal following is impossible right? And it's even more completely out of the realm of possiblity that these WCW/ECW people just love wrestling period, but NEVER used to watch RAW. But now that's their only option if they want to watch televised wrestling on Monday's. You're an ignorant jackass. It's easy to insult someone's opinion, but you don't even make an argument to back it up. Why don't you go dry hump a chainsaw and then douche with hydrochloric acid you complete waste of a sperm shot.

You realize that NO ONE WATCHED ECW when it was on, right? The percentage of wrestling fans who ever watched ECW is a drop in the ocean of people who watched WWE and WCW.

And how many times do I need to reiterate. When WCW went head to head with the WWF, they had Hulk Hogan. They had Sting. They had Ric Flair. They had Ted Turner's checking account. They had the best commentary money could buy (referring to Tenay who knew what he was talking about and Heenan, the best color guy ever. Schiavone doesn't count). Their production budget was astronomical.

TNA has none of those things. I'm not saying TNA will never compete. But if they compete directly right now, they will get annihilated. They got a 1.1 rating this week and that SHATTERED their previous best, and on WWE's worst nights, they're in the threes. Yeah, maybe they lose a couple tenths of a point to the die-hard fans you're describing. Maybe RAW dips to 3.3 and Impact climbs to 1.5. But still, RAW is doubling them up in viewers.

Move Impact to Thursday night. More people will watch them in prime time than at 11:00 on a Saturday. Start to creep up on that 2.0, 2.3, 2.5 rating. Then, once people actually know who you are, that's when you start to consider moving yourself to Monday night. But only once you have an established fanbase that extends beyond the Impact Zone and the 1.1 you're drawing on the weekend.

If Impact tries to compete with RAW with 1.1 ratings, WWE will have their pick of the TNA roster by 2007.

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 07:02 PM
Well, maybe if Mr. Brilliant would write a post that's longer than 1 fucking sentence people would know his opinion. All the guy does is flame people, but adds nothing relevant to the argument. Is this done in effort to hide his stupidity? Pull your pants up and get Kane's dick out of your ass PMF.

Okay, since you bring this up, this is how I roll:

I have made several statements in the past on my feelings of TNA, from the glaringly negative to the beamingly positive. However, I do not feel the need to post my full opinion on TNA in every single post I make regarding TNA, nor should I have to. I should be safe from people making stupid assumptions like "He says a low rated show shouldn't go head to head with a high rated show! OMG FANBOY!"

Why? Because that defies reasonable, conventional, and logical thinking. I addressed the ratings, not even my opinions on the shows themselves. Just because I admit that Eminem sells more than Mark Erelli does not mean that I have actually said Eminem was betetr than Mark.

If the best you have to back up your assumption was "Well he didn't say he WASN'T a WWE fanboy," Then you seriously need to be hit in the head with a cinder block again (I'm assuming that's why your IQ is obviously so low).

Arnold HamNegger
02-03-2006, 07:03 PM
It looks like you have obviously never ever read a single post I've made.

It also looks like you lack the fundamental understanding to grasp the concept that I don't want to see TNA on monday nights because I actually want them to grow. That somehow makes me pro-WWE in your eyes? Because I acknowledge that placing a show that broke records with a 1.1 rating might be better served by not going up against a show with roughly 5 times the attraction power, even when it sucks ass?

Yeah, I really hate TNA so much I'd rather see it grow. :roll:


And I was supposed to translate that from your really witty one liners?

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 07:07 PM
The show's broken records at a 1.1 . Why would they take notice of that over, say, reruns of McGyver (Which pulls in about a 1.0 according to Spike) or CSI?

This was no attempt at wit, and nicely summed up my stance, retard.

loopydate
02-03-2006, 07:08 PM
Give it time, kid. Your KKdar should kick in shortly. Took me a couple of months to catch on, too, and now look at me. Wait. Uh... look at... Crap, I can't come up with a good example.

Arnold HamNegger
02-03-2006, 07:13 PM
Okay, since you bring this up, this is how I roll:

I have made several statements in the past on my feelings of TNA, from the glaringly negative to the beamingly positive. However, I do not feel the need to post my full opinion on TNA in every single post I make regarding TNA, nor should I have to. I should be safe from people making stupid assumptions like "He says a low rated show shouldn't go head to head with a high rated show! OMG FANBOY!"

Why? Because that defies reasonable, conventional, and logical thinking. I addressed the ratings, not even my opinions on the shows themselves. Just because I admit that Eminem sells more than Mark Erelli does not mean that I have actually said Eminem was betetr than Mark.

If the best you have to back up your assumption was "Well he didn't say he WASN'T a WWE fanboy," Then you seriously need to be hit in the head with a cinder block again (I'm assuming that's why your IQ is obviously so low).

You don't make any statements in this thread of that nature other than ratings. What, should I have scouted this site for like a year to become familiar with what EVERYONE has said in the past? I can only go by the posts on the thread I'm reading...which at no point gives your opinion of TNA until now. But thanks for the compliments.

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 07:39 PM
You don't make any statements in this thread of that nature other than ratings. What, should I have scouted this site for like a year to become familiar with what EVERYONE has said in the past?

Nope. You should stick to not statting something as "obvious" when it's not even addressed. You just admitted yourself I stuck only to statements of ratings.

Arnold HamNegger
02-03-2006, 08:57 PM
Nope. You should stick to not statting something as "obvious" when it's not even addressed. You just admitted yourself I stuck only to statements of ratings.

Do you even know what you're arguing anymore, because you seem to have lost track? You went off on this big tirade about your feelings for TNA in ONE POST after I mentioned your amount of 1 line funny remarks and the fact that you had nothing relavent to say other than insult people. You only made one comment about ratings in the entire thread and that does not convey your personal opinions about TNA. But according to you, I should stick to not stating something as "obvious"...because from your 1 liner's and one post stating the facts about ratings, it was "obvious" how you felt about TNA....according to you. Am I to assume that it's "obvious" you have blond hair because the font you type with on my screen is yellow? Or does that mean it's "obvious" that you are Asian?

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 09:18 PM
OK, so it looks like you're obviously a brainwashed McMahonite that believes wrestling IS and always HAS BEEN WWE/WWF.

You said this yourself. You were the one who went on a tirade.

So the only question is: Are you Heyman, or legitimately retarded?

Kane Knight
02-03-2006, 09:20 PM
But according to you, I should stick to not stating something as "obvious"

What a stupid thing to say.

You yourself admitted that I brought up nothing but the ratings. Nothing was obvious, you were just stupid enough to ASSUME.