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FakeLaser
02-02-2006, 10:35 PM
Yeah, who is playing fantasy baseball this year? I wanted to play last year but I didn't get in the league for whatever reason. The league I usually play in isn't happening this year so yeah.

Dragon
02-02-2006, 11:02 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't mind playing this year.

RoXer
02-02-2006, 11:33 PM
I managed the league last year and I think I'll do it again this year. Less stat categories though probly.

RoXer
02-02-2006, 11:34 PM
MIZ, YOU ARE PLAYING IN OUR LEAGUE THIS YEAR

RoXer
02-02-2006, 11:49 PM
Matter of fact...

League ID: 5621
Password: ElFag


I just left it at default settings for now because I'm going to bed. I'll edit the settings this weekend and get feedback later.

FakeLaser
02-02-2006, 11:49 PM
Do you play roto or H2H?

RoXer
02-02-2006, 11:50 PM
H2H

FakeLaser
02-02-2006, 11:52 PM
Word. Never played H2H before, only roto. Oh well, should be interesting.

MVP
02-03-2006, 12:00 AM
Yeah I'm in

RoXer
02-03-2006, 12:06 AM
So Dave and I are running two H2H leagues...


I dunno how we're doing this.

OssMan
02-03-2006, 12:15 AM
what? sign up isn't even open or are you using something besides yahoo?

DaveWadding
02-03-2006, 12:16 AM
sign up is open.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-03-2006, 12:34 AM
it's on

Joey Slugs
02-03-2006, 01:20 AM
I have a H2H league that I run every year. If anyone is interested let me know. I'll have it up and running by early March.

MVP
02-03-2006, 06:20 PM
I might do both, but that'll mean I'm in 3 leagues ause my friends are doing one also. I DON'T KNOW

The Miz
02-03-2006, 07:12 PM
What does H2H and rotis mean

(I joined both leagues)

Nervous Ferret
02-03-2006, 07:20 PM
Head to head
Rotisserie

Head to head as in you play somebody different each week, whoever scores more points between the two over the week gets a "win" and the loser gets a "loss". Best record at end of year is the winner.

Roto is set up differently. There are categories (Hr, 2B, #B ect ect ect) If there are 10 teams and 10 categories, the max # of points on a given day is 100. You are pitted against everybody in each category. So 10 teams, and your team has the most hrs out of all 10. You recieve 10 pts. lowest 1 pt. So your score for the most part changes daily.

Is anybody running a roto league yet? If you guys do start one, lemme know. Or I'll start it myself. I'm not a big H2H fan :o

The Miz
02-03-2006, 07:22 PM
<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody><tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td width="120" align="left" valign="top" class="typeStandard">Stat Categories:</td> <td width="410" align="left" valign="top" class="typeStandard"> R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP</td></tr></tbody> </table>
Are you guys seriously not going to use OBP/SLG

Nervous Ferret
02-03-2006, 07:27 PM
dunno I think RoXer said he has them at default settings before he gets a chance to changed them

Nervous Ferret
02-03-2006, 07:27 PM
Matter of fact...

League ID: 5621
Password: ElFag


I just left it at default settings for now because I'm going to bed. I'll edit the settings this weekend and get feedback later.yeh

The Miz
02-03-2006, 07:44 PM
my b

wheres feliding percintage...

Nervous Ferret
02-03-2006, 07:57 PM
0 weekend and/or draft times past 2pm left for ROto, so I went ahead and created a league for TPWW

I made the draft Feb 24 which is during presidents week, so I dunno how many of you get off for that. Only other bearable times are March 21 and 22 st like 2 pm which isnt very courteous to the west coast!

Nervous Ferret
02-03-2006, 08:04 PM
still tweaking atrm

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=typeStandard vAlign=top align=left width=120>League ID#:</TD><TD class=typeStandard vAlign=top align=left width=410>17397</TD></TR><TR height=3><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD class=typeStandard vAlign=top align=left width=120>League Name:</TD><TD class=typeStandard vAlign=top align=left width=410>TPWWBL</TD></TR><TR height=3><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD class=typeStandard vAlign=top align=left width=120>Password:</TD><TD class=typeStandard vAlign=top align=left width=410>elfag</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Also I figured we could always give commisionewr to somebody better if need be!

toxic rooster
02-03-2006, 08:09 PM
I'll be in, given I'm supposed to care about baseball now.

what site :D!

Nervous Ferret
02-03-2006, 08:15 PM
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/

"join a league" under Free fantasy baseball. custom league. ect.

FakeLaser
02-04-2006, 01:06 AM
Yeah I'll play the roto league too.

RoXer
02-04-2006, 01:16 AM
I do so shitty in roto league, I dunno why I try. But I'll try anyway.

I'm putting off editing the stats and stuff untill next weekend. I have to finish my college app this weekend. And watch football. And golf. And hockey.

Nervous Ferret
02-04-2006, 11:15 PM
Yahoo cleared up all the draft times so gimme what you guys want. Anytime except Mondays and Tuesdays and like the 9-14 ov march is good for me

FakeLaser
02-05-2006, 10:40 AM
Sundays are probably best for me.

If not, then any day after like 6:00ish. Except Friday and Saturday.

OssMan
02-05-2006, 01:10 PM
mon-thurs after 3:00

sun: anything before 5:00 or after 7:15

RoXer
02-05-2006, 03:38 PM
I'll be in, given I'm supposed to care about baseball now.

what site :D!

Yeah, join my league,


ALSO, I kinda edited the stat categories and positions. I'm maxing out categories, 15 for batters and 15 for pitchers like last year.

The Miz
02-05-2006, 03:44 PM
Only 2 SP? Axe the IF and add one more SP.

Also HLD is a gay stat

The Miz
02-05-2006, 03:46 PM
A, E, and FPCT are all useless as well.

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:11 PM
Well GEE Miz, I'll go look for the "Effort Given on a Play" stat. BRB.

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:13 PM
Yeah, no, doesn't exsist. I guess we'll just use those for now.


Except maybe switch A with PO. And yeah, dunno how HLDs got selected.

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:15 PM
And there are 4 SPs. Dunno what you're talking bout.

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:15 PM
Oh. The 2 SPs is what I switched it from.

The Miz
02-05-2006, 04:19 PM
Why even bother with fielding stats if the only ones available suck?

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:22 PM
Because I don't want it to be offensive minded. Guys like Craig Counsell and Mark Kotsay will have much more value this way.

YOUR Hero
02-05-2006, 04:30 PM
HLD may seem like a 'gay stat' but it opens up the fantasy game to more pitchers. We've been doing this for years now and know what works better than others.

It also 'evens out' the batting to pitching stats. There are so many batting categories available, that it makes the game too balanced on offensive categories than it does pitching categories. Holds is a must.

YOUR Hero
02-05-2006, 04:30 PM
HLD may seem like a 'gay stat' but it opens up the fantasy game to more pitchers. We've been doing this for years now and know what works better than others.

It also 'evens out' the batting to pitching stats. There are so many batting categories available, that it makes the game too balanced on offensive categories than it does pitching categories. Holds is a must.

The Miz
02-05-2006, 04:33 PM
No, Mark Kotsay never gets any assists because no one runs on him. Remember that time he made 2 errors in a game last year, one of them Kendall's fault and the other one Crosby's?

17 assists led the league in 2005. Wanna take a guess which defensive dynamo had them? (Hint: he likes to go to bars with Enrique Wilson)

The Miz
02-05-2006, 04:33 PM
HLD may seem like a 'gay stat' but it opens up the fantasy game to more pitchers. We've been doing this for years now and know what works better than others.

It also 'evens out' the batting to pitching stats. There are so many batting categories available, that it makes the game too balanced on offensive categories than it does pitching categories. Holds is a must.

I'm all for more pitching stats; but hold is an awful, awful stat.

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:35 PM
I'm on the fence between Holds and K/9 innings.

YOUR Hero
02-05-2006, 04:36 PM
Assists from the outfield mean nothing, I don't care if an outfielder gets 40 in a season, that's nothing compared to what a 2B or SS will get, even an infielder off the bench is more valuable in that category than an everyday outfielder...

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:37 PM
No, Mark Kotsay never gets any assists because no one runs on him. Remember that time he made 2 errors in a game last year, one of them Kendall's fault and the other one Crosby's?

17 assists led the league in 2005. Wanna take a guess which defensive dynamo had them? (Hint: he likes to go to bars with Enrique Wilson)

And whats your gripe on putouts?

The Miz
02-05-2006, 04:38 PM
I'm on the fence between Holds and K/9 innings.

That's like comparing OBP and sacrifice flies. Please go with K per 9

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:38 PM
Assists from the outfield mean nothing, I don't care if an outfielder gets 40 in a season, that's nothing compared to what a 2B or SS will get, even an infielder off the bench is more valuable in that category than an everyday outfielder...

I've put the IF position mostly to be used by a defensive player.

YOUR Hero
02-05-2006, 04:38 PM
I'm all for more pitching stats; but hold is an awful, awful stat.

nah.

It makes more pitchers in the league valuable. Say for example you have no saves guy, you can at least build you RP position with Holds guys.
Dimensions are good. Forget the fact it's a stat hardly recognized in MLB circles.

RoXer
02-05-2006, 04:47 PM
That's like comparing OBP and sacrifice flies. Please go with K per 9

Meh, we'll see what everyones take on it is. I think it gives relievers a bit more value, personally.

YOUR Hero
02-05-2006, 05:06 PM
I hope you're going to simplfy things in the end, catergory wise. IMO, there are far, far too many at the moment.

The Miz
02-05-2006, 05:08 PM
Well then I can just draft a loogy like Damaso Marte who sucks but only faces one batter so he picks up a ton of holds. As long as you don't blow the lead you get a hold. I don't know how many times last year a releiver came in with a 4 run lead, got one guy out and gave up 4 hits and 3 runs, and got credited with a hold.

RoXer
02-05-2006, 05:10 PM
Really? I thought I had done 15 for batters and 15 for pitchers in last years too.

The Miz
02-05-2006, 05:12 PM
And whats your gripe on putouts?

Um, maybe that 1B's get 5 times more than any one else? Whoever drafts the 1B that's real team gets a lot of groundballs will win that category.

Scott Hatteberg, before he was permanently moved to DH, led the league in putouts because he played behind Saarloos (extreme sinkerballer), Haren and Harden (who feature the splitter as the go-to pitch).

Scott Hatteberg was also possibly the worst defensive first baseman in the MLB last year.

YOUR Hero
02-05-2006, 05:15 PM
I know OPS has become a favourite MLB stat but in fantasy baseball it's just a padded stat for power guys. Same as 2B. I like 3B because it values speed at the plate. Gives speed 2 decent categories, but even that I could see(3B) being dropped in order to keep things simple. Again, the same holds true for walks (as a batting category) it favours the big hitter as they are walked by pitchers. I would also consider errors a stat not worth keeping.

Complete games and shut outs, because they are few and far between are not worth the space. GiDP is a new stat that might have some value. Total bases and k/9 are other stats not worth keeping for the sake of simplicity.

Those are my thoughts.

I'm looking for interactive debate, this wasn't criticism of the stats chosen. I'll go with whatever the majority decides.

The Miz
02-05-2006, 05:22 PM
I think OBP and SLG should be two different categories and OPS should be axed. This way, a guy like Luis Castillo who has no power but gets on base a ton will not be penalized for having an average OPS.

Triples I like. Walks definately need to be in there. 5'10" Brian Giles led the league in them last year, his amazing eye shouldn't be penalized because guys like Adam Dunn and Barry Bonds get walked due to pitchers being scared of them. I'm too lazy to look but if IBB is on there that's definately one you could get rid of.

I agree with getting rid of CG and SHO, and I agree with GIDP (for pitchers, not hitters). If you give up a lot of hits but cancel it out by getting ground ball double plays you should be rewarded for that. Total bases is already covered in other categories, K/9 I could live without but it's better than alot of pitching stats.

GO/AO (ground outs per 1 air out) would be one I'd consider adding

Adder
02-06-2006, 05:54 PM
Holds need to stay.

Nervous Ferret
02-06-2006, 06:18 PM
holds make people like Tom Gordon valuable, he wouldn't be worht a roster spot if it wasn't in.

Nervous Ferret
02-06-2006, 06:18 PM
It is a pretty gay stat tho

Adder
02-06-2006, 07:06 PM
46% on the gay-o-meter. Yet it still deserves a spot.

The Miz
02-06-2006, 07:52 PM
holds make people like Tom Gordon valuable, he wouldn't be worht a roster spot if it wasn't in.

Tom Gordon will be among the NL leaders in saves next season

Nervous Ferret
02-07-2006, 03:26 PM
I meant last yr

The Miz
02-12-2006, 03:05 PM
Who is who in each league?

YOUR Hero
02-12-2006, 05:34 PM
PG Royals in both = is me.

MVP
02-12-2006, 06:47 PM
Dirty Frenchmen in RoXer's league

Joey Slugs
02-20-2006, 04:00 PM
if anyone wants in... here is my league: http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/32763/settings

Linkbowler
02-20-2006, 06:15 PM
Any of you guys still have spots available? I'm looking for a couple leagues.

Joey Slugs
02-20-2006, 06:54 PM
i have plenty of spots

RoXer
02-20-2006, 07:53 PM
I dunno. Go check

Linkbowler
02-20-2006, 08:17 PM
i have plenty of spots

Post the league ID and pass...the link doesn't cut it.

Joey Slugs
02-20-2006, 09:00 PM
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</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">League Name:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">The Human Fund Charity League</td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
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</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Live Draft </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Sat Apr 1 12:00pm PST [ Add to My Calendar (http://calendar.yahoo.com/?v=60&TITLE=Yahoo%21+Sports+Fantasy+Baseball+Live+Draft&TYPE=20&URL=http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com&ST=20060401T120000&DUR=0300&REM1=60m) ] </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
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</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Player Universe:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> All baseball </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Moves:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Trades:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Reject Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 2 </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade End Date:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> July 30, 2006 </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 3 days </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Can't Cut List Provider:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yahoo! Sports </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Review:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> League Votes </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Post Draft Players:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Follow Waiver Rules </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Min Innings Pitched:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">10</td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Weekly Deadline:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Daily - Tomorrow </td> </tr> <tr height="3"><td colspan="2">
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</td></tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Stat Categories:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> R, H, HR, RBI, BB, K, AVG, OBP, IP, W, L, SV, ER, BB, HLD, WHIP</td></tr></tbody></table>

Nervous Ferret
02-21-2006, 01:17 AM
Linkblower join the league posted on page 1. I still have spots available

Joey Slugs
02-21-2006, 01:37 AM
Linkblower join the league posted on page 1. I still have spots available

Still have room for one more, NerF?

Nervous Ferret
02-21-2006, 01:50 AM
yeah, its a hot league, just needs like 3 more spots

FakeLaser
02-21-2006, 01:25 PM
I am the Krebstars

Evil Vito
02-21-2006, 11:07 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Had an autopick draft with a bunch of guys from some other messageboard.........my offense is terrible, but my pitching is awesome. I should be able to deal for at least one huge bat.

C - J. Kendall
1B - J. Morneau
2B - B. Roberts
3B - S. Hillenbrand
SS - J. Lugo
IF - M. Ellis
OF - H. Matsui
OF - B. Bonds
OF - M. Bradley
Util - G. Jenkins
BN - J. Drew
BN - J. Guillen
BN - C. Shelton

SP - J. Santana
SP - J. Beckett
RP - M. Rivera
RP - B. Lidge
P - B. Wagner
P - J. Nathan
P - D. Haren
BN - P. Byrd
BN - J. Duscherer

Wayyyy too many A's ended up on my team, though.</font>

FakeLaser
02-22-2006, 01:04 PM
Just had a 12 team draft for my public league, pretty happy. Somehow I got Hafner in the 6th and Melvin Mora in the 14th round.

C - Victor Martinez
1B - Chase Utley
2B - Jorge Cantu
3B - Melvin Mora
SS - Jhonny Peralta
OF - Carl Crawford
OF - Aubrey Huff
OF - Garret Anderson
Utl - Travis Hafner
BN - Bill Hall
BN - Jose Guillen

SP - Carlos Zambrano
SP - Cliff Lee
SP - Scott Kazmir
SP - Jeremy Bonderman
SP - Joe Blanton
SP - Brad Radke
RP - Joe Nathan
RP - Brian Fuentes
RP - Kyle Farnsworth
RP - Justin Duscherer

Would like to move Utley to second... trying to trade Cantu for either Ryan Howard or Paul Konerko. I could use another big bat, though every one of my hitters is capable of 20 HR and 80 RBI, so I guess I'm ok there.

Evil Vito
02-22-2006, 06:21 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Had an autopick draft with a bunch of guys from some other messageboard.........my offense is terrible, but my pitching is awesome. I should be able to deal for at least one huge bat.

C - J. Kendall
1B - J. Morneau
2B - B. Roberts
3B - S. Hillenbrand
SS - J. Lugo
IF - M. Ellis
OF - H. Matsui
OF - B. Bonds
OF - M. Bradley
Util - G. Jenkins
BN - J. Drew
BN - J. Guillen
BN - C. Shelton

SP - J. Santana
SP - J. Beckett
RP - M. Rivera
RP - B. Lidge
P - B. Wagner
P - J. Nathan
P - D. Haren
BN - P. Byrd
BN - J. Duscherer

Wayyyy too many A's ended up on my team, though.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Made a few moves to try and bolster the offense, they won't be official until tomorrow....hopefully both will go through:

First off, I'm getting rid of Justin Morneau and picking up Ryan Zimmerman of the Nationals. Zimmerman is a real sleeper but he should hit for a high average and potential power as well.

I'm also going to try and drop Guillen and pick up Brad Wilkerson...who should have a much better year now that he is healthy and in the Bandbox of Arlington. Wilky will be in the hunt to be the guy at 1B, with Hillenbrand and Shelton challenging.

And of course, I should be able to add at least one sure-thing bat to my team, by dealing one of my closers (I'm shopping Lidge the most...but I'd deal any of them if the price was right)</font>

RoXer
02-22-2006, 06:59 PM
Thats because the A's are amazing

The Miz
02-22-2006, 09:23 PM
Wilkerosn, Shelton, Hillenbrand in that order

RoXer
02-25-2006, 04:39 PM
Gunna go change them BRB

OssMan
02-26-2006, 08:50 PM
Just traded Alex Rodriguez away for Melvin Mora and Roy Halladay

The Miz
02-26-2006, 08:53 PM
Why? A-Rod is probably the most statistical player in baseball, and he's right in the middle of his prime. Him and Pujols are unquestionably the two best fantasy players. Mora's numbers took a big decline last year and Halladay hasn't been healthy in 2 years. Both are great players but I don't see how they are worth A-Rod.

OssMan
02-26-2006, 09:14 PM
I hate A-Rod and Mora is one of my favorite players. I like to root for my fantasy players but I want A-Rod to K every time he has an at bat. Also, my pitching staff is really nasty as it is, and even if Halladay gets injured again it won't even be that big of a blow considering what I have.

YOUR Hero
02-26-2006, 09:49 PM
Not a good move AssMan, I understand why you'd do it, but it's a reason that could cost you. Best hope for an off year from ARod

The Miz
02-26-2006, 09:51 PM
I hate A-Rod and Mora is one of my favorite players.

Awesome reasoning

YOUR Hero
02-26-2006, 11:15 PM
should have went with Pujols then, and drafted Mora in the next 4-5th round

FakeLaser
02-26-2006, 11:35 PM
Yeah, pretty terrible move.

I somehow got Mora in the 14th round of my draft though which was pretty sweet.

FakeLaser
02-26-2006, 11:36 PM
Just traded Cantu and Garret Anderson for Adam Dunn and Lyle Overbay in my league. Pretty good deal I'd say.

Evil Vito
02-27-2006, 06:37 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Goddamn I hate this league...pretty sure most guys haven't even checked their teams, allowing some ripoff deals to go down.

This one guy wanting to dump his Yanks dealt Jeter to one team for Jhonny Peralta...Peralta's good and all, but Jeter will give you more of everything

And then he dealt Posada to another team for Ramon Hernandez...:|

Neither of those trades have been vetoed...in fact, I think I'm the only one who checked.

---

Anyways, still looking to acquire a big bat...but the one trade I offered (I pry Papi away from an awesome offensive team with horrid pitching at the expense of Lidge and another guy) got no response yet, I doubt the guy's checked his team. He'll probably counter-offer with me giving up Mariano, but I'd do it since I'd still be getting a ridiculous bat and keeping 3 great closers.

Also, considering picking up either Pierzynski or Barajas to upgrade over Kendall. I like Barajas' potential in that park after last year...but I highly doubt he repeats his performance.</font>

OssMan
02-27-2006, 07:28 PM
POST YOUR TEAMS.

C - Jason Kendall OAK (trying to work out a deal for Joe Mauer)
1B - Sean Casey PIT
2B - Marcus Giles ATL (trying to trade)
3B - Melvin Mora BAL
SS - Bobby Crosby OAK
OF - Gary Sheffield NYY (involved in deal for Mauer)
OF - Jose Guillen WSH
OF - Wily Mo Pena/Joey Gathright/Jacque Jones
UTIL - Travis Hafner CLE
Bench:
Richie Sexson SEA

PITCHING:

SP - Jake Peavy SD
SP - Roy Halladay TOR
RP - Bobby Jenks CHW
RP - Danys Baez LAD
P - Felix Hernandez SEA
P - Cliff Lee CLE
P - Kevin Millwood TEX
Bench:
John Patterson WSH
Daniel Cabrera BAL

weather vane
02-27-2006, 07:42 PM
All I want is Ortiz. I don't even care.

The Miz
02-27-2006, 07:42 PM
You're not actually playing Casey over Sexson are you

Linkbowler
03-05-2006, 01:14 AM
Drafted this one in a roto league earlier today, my first foray into the world of roto ball.

C- Jason Varitek
1B- Derrek Lee
2B- Brian Roberts
3B- Eric Chavez
SS- Miguel Tejada
OF- Brian Giles
OF- Geoff Jenkins
OF- Willy Taveras
Util- Luis Castillo
Bench: Paul Lo Duca, Rocco Baldelli, Bill Hall

SP- Randy Johnson
SP- Josh Beckett
RP- Francisco Rodriguez
RP- Francisco Cordero
P- Ryan Dempster
P- Chris Capuano
P- Greg Maddux
Bench: Brad Radke, Rodrigo Lopez

Nervous Ferret
03-05-2006, 03:04 AM
like 2 spots open in my league

RoXer
03-05-2006, 04:16 PM
Yeah, what does everyone think of the new stats?

The Miz
03-05-2006, 06:43 PM
Assists has to go. Others could be improved but thats just nitpicking, need to get rid of assists though.

The Miz
03-11-2006, 02:16 PM
Any way we could push these drafts a couple days later? I can't make 2 of the 3

RoXer
03-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Can you make mine?

YOUR Hero
03-11-2006, 03:28 PM
I'm happy enough with the catergories.

The Miz
03-12-2006, 03:32 PM
Can you make mine?

Nope

RoXer
03-12-2006, 06:32 PM
What if I change it to that Friday or Sunday?

YOUR Hero
03-13-2006, 10:14 AM
Missing drafts happens all the time. Don't just change it because of one person BECAUSE what ends up happening is others miss the new time still expecting it to be the original time. If you do change it, make sure everybody is notified via PM or something and get their views.

RoXer
03-13-2006, 10:50 AM
Missing drafts happens all the time. Don't just change it because of one person BECAUSE what ends up happening is others miss the new time still expecting it to be the original time. If you do change it, make sure everybody is notified via PM or something and get their views.

Yeah, I know, don't worry. He's the 3rd person to say he can't make it. Granted, its only 3 out of 16 or so, but I just want ot know what times are good for those who can't make it if those people outnumber the people who can make it (which is not the case right now).

MVP
03-18-2006, 10:42 AM
I can't make it either.

MVP
03-18-2006, 01:19 PM
Yeah NVM I'm there now, but I gotta leave at like 2-2:15

Supreme Olajuwon
03-18-2006, 03:32 PM
I just went into the draft room in the 25th round. Oops.

I haven't been paying much attention to the league but those have to be the worst pitching catagories of all time.

RoXer
03-18-2006, 05:55 PM
OMGGGGG I can't believe I missed my own draft.

RoXer
03-18-2006, 05:57 PM
I don't even want to check my team right now, I'm so pissed.

I didn't bother pre-drafting because I was so sure I would make my draft.

FUUUUUCK

Crimson
03-18-2006, 07:57 PM
Yea , alot of these categories kinda suck..no W's for pitchers?? Take the CG out..AND IP, probably. maybe a few other changes

YOUR Hero
03-18-2006, 10:06 PM
Sounds like not too many people made the draft :o

Supreme Olajuwon
03-19-2006, 03:30 AM
RE-DRAFT

RoXer
03-19-2006, 12:37 PM
Seriously? Is there an option to do that?

Supreme Olajuwon
03-19-2006, 02:27 PM
sure if we all just start a new league and pretend this league doesn't exist

RoXer
03-19-2006, 04:07 PM
I'm down. Seriously. Who wants a new league?

Evil Vito
03-19-2006, 06:34 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Have a draft tomorrow after school.....fucking huge. 25 guy rosters like the real MLB, 12 teams.

I guess what makes it really realistic is that we use exact OF positions...so you won't be having a starting OF of Barry Bonds, Manny Ramirez, and Cliff Floyd. There is still a utility spot, though.

Hoping I pick mid-round. Gonna grab the best guy there the first 2 times around, but make sure I have an ace with at least my 3rd pick.</font>

MVP
03-20-2006, 12:10 AM
RE-DRAFT

Fuck that. I made the draft and managed to build a decent team. Go join a public league or something.

Supreme Olajuwon
03-20-2006, 02:07 AM
:'( <- for you, MVP

The Miz
03-20-2006, 12:08 PM
I'm up for a re-draft. 10:45 AM on a Saturday just wasn't a good draft time.

If not that's cool too. My starting pitching SUCKS. Seriously. Also Matt Stairs is my 1B. :( I am willing to trade A-Rod for 2 quality starters because I still have Chavez.

Supreme Olajuwon
03-20-2006, 12:22 PM
I actually was pleased with the team the computer gave me besides the closer situation so whatever

MVP
03-20-2006, 12:40 PM
I say don't re-draft. I know not a lot of people made it, but only 1 or 2 people actually said they could not make it, so no one changed the draft time. If more of you would have said something then maybe you could have made the draft, but you didn't so too bad.

Evil Vito
03-20-2006, 05:39 PM
<font color=goldenrod>K, so here's my 25-man team:

C - Michael Barrett
1B - Chad Tracy
2B - Tadahito Iguchi
SS - Jimmy Rollins
3B - Eric Chavez
LF - Jason Bay
CF - Ryan Freel
RF - Bobby Abreu
UTIL - Matt Holliday
BN - J.D. Drew
BN - Brad Wilkerson
BN - Bill Mueller
BN - Matt Murton

Plenty of great fallback OF options........and if need be I can always stick Bay in CF and have Murton or Holliday in LF. Only spots I don't have backups for are C and SS.........obviously a backup C is pointless but I might drop Mueller and pick up a fallback SS option like O-Cab, Uribe, or Vizquel, what do you think?

SP - Dontrelle Willis
SP - Josh Beckett
SP - Brad Radke
SP - Matt Clement
SP - Brad Penny
RP - Brad Lidge
RP - Bobby Jenks
RP - Chad Orvella
RP - Juan Rincon
P - Aaron Heilman
P - Carlos Silva
BN - Rafael Soriano

I love that rotation personally, but that's just me.</font>

The Miz
03-21-2006, 11:42 AM
Yo Roxer, you have Konerko, Giambi, Thome, and Hillenbrand and crappy middle infielders. I have Rollins and Belliard and crappy first basemen. LETS MAKE A DEAL

Supreme Olajuwon
03-21-2006, 02:49 PM
Hero, I have Taveras and Pierre already. I don't need another speed OF, especially Matt Lawton.

YOUR Hero
03-22-2006, 12:08 AM
re-drafting isn't fair for those that made it. I loathe my team, however it's my fault for not A) being there and B) not pre drafting. That's my take on it.


Splichuk, I'm waiting on you man, but it's getting tough as I have another tempting offer.

RoXer
03-22-2006, 12:12 AM
I should get in on all this wheeling and dealing going on. I'd like a few A's if possible. I.E. Chavez, Zito, Harden, Street, and others.

The Miz
03-22-2006, 01:18 AM
You have an offer on the table

Evil Vito
03-22-2006, 08:45 AM
<font color=goldenrod>With that team I posted, some guy in my league (the one who didn't make it and got stuck with Clemens) said he'd trade him for pretty much anybody

Should I try offering up my shittiest player and let Clemens stay on the bench until he makes an official decision? If he plays, it'd probably be the ultimate low-risk/high-reward</font>

Supreme Olajuwon
03-22-2006, 06:45 PM
Well Clemens prolly has the same chance of playing as JD Drew so that'd be a fair deal.

FakeLaser
03-22-2006, 06:46 PM
Yeah, I missed the draft but my team is pretty good. I could use some pitching though, hit me upppppp (Krebstars). Would like to improve at short as well.

C - Rod Barajas
1B - Richie Sexon
2B - Orlando Hudson
SS - Juan Uribe
IF - Chris Shelton
LF - Barry Bonds
CF - Grady Sizemore
RF - Gary Sheffield
OF - Maglio Ordonez
Utl - Rocco Baldelli
Utl - Curtis Granderson
BN - Dimitri Young
BN - Juan Rivera

SP - John Smoltz
SP - C.C. Sabathia
SP - Jake Westbrook
SP - David Wells
SP - Brad Penny
SP - Aaron Heilman
SP - Tomo Ohka
RP - Aaron Small
RP - Joe Nathan
RP - Todd Jones
RP - Joe Borowski

FakeLaser
03-22-2006, 06:53 PM
PS - how the hell did we not veto Schmidt for Reitsma?

Supreme Olajuwon
03-22-2006, 07:15 PM
So are the pitching catagories gonna stay the same or what's going on

The Miz
03-22-2006, 07:26 PM
I like not having wins and losses. The stats should be things the pitcher can control.

YOUR Hero
03-22-2006, 07:28 PM
PS - how the hell did we not veto Schmidt for Reitsma?

I thought it was an OK trade. Schmidt is one season removed from being a top ten pitcher in the league and Rietsma will be the ATL closer, I dunno seems ok. da spongemonkeys always plays for lots of closers too, so it was pretty predictable he'd make such a move.

YOUR Hero
03-22-2006, 07:31 PM
I like not having wins and losses. The stats should be things the pitcher can control.

I can understand that, but it should be included, it's as much in their control as a double play. I say add wins and drop Games Started, especially since Innings pitched is there. I feel that is a far more balanced set up.

The Miz
03-22-2006, 07:35 PM
I agree, and I don't think GIDP should be in there anyway. If you want to award ground-ball pitchers, GO/AO is a better stat.

YOUR Hero
03-22-2006, 07:44 PM
It's a beautiful thing when a reliever wins you the wins pitching catergory with a Sunday win. gotta have wins.

FakeLaser
03-22-2006, 07:45 PM
No way Reitsma is going to close all year.

Schmidt could easily strike out 200 guys and post a sub 3.00 ERA. Reitsma isn't even a second tier closer, he sucked in the role last year and will probably lose the job to Devine eventually. No way they're even close.

FakeLaser
03-22-2006, 07:46 PM
I kind of like not having wins too. It's almost an offensive stat as much as it is a pitching stat.

The Miz
03-22-2006, 07:47 PM
It's a beautiful thing when a reliever wins you the wins pitching catergory with a Sunday win. gotta have wins.

While that may be a good feeling, it isn't fair.

The Miz
03-22-2006, 07:58 PM
If my rotation is

Dontrelle Willis (FLA)
Scott Kazmir (TB)
Felix Hernandez (SEA)
Aaron Harang (CIN)

, and yours is

Mike Mussina (NYY)
John Thomson (ATL)
Matt Morris (SF)
Jason Johnson (CLE)

, you are going to kill me in wins despite the fact that I have 4 great pitchers and you have 4 ok ones

YOUR Hero
03-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Well drafting guys that are good in ERA, wins, strikeouts is important strategy. It's no different like in hockey when you draft goalies. Sure it's a no brainer to go after the Brodeur's but you've got to think about what the categories are that your league is set up for and pick guys that will help you win the categories. It's not so much about picking the best talent that's there, it's about picking guys that get the job done.

I know for a fact, wins are something people were expecting to see as a pitching stat.

The Miz
03-22-2006, 09:08 PM
I agree, which is why I think you should never change the categories after the draft has already taken place. The people who showed up for it, if they were smart, knew that wins wasn't a category and drafted accordingly. If you are against re-drafting because it's unfair to the people who showed up, I don't see how you can be for changing the categories after the draft, its just as unfair to those people.

YOUR Hero
03-22-2006, 09:46 PM
I can appreciate that, but the difference is, most people assumed it was there, anyway... I'm for wins, just as I was for holds and how saves is included.



You fucked me up with the new avatar :(

The Miz
03-22-2006, 10:30 PM
I am in need of an ace pitcher and am willing to deal offense and relievers.

A-Rod
Victor Martinez
Ron Belliard
Jimmy Rollins
Francoeur
Damon
Craig Monroe
Dellucci
Reggie Sanders
Aaron Boone

Chad Cordero
Otsuka
Looper
Francisco Cordero
Howry
Benitez

The Miz
03-22-2006, 10:32 PM
I also want to get rid of Kerry Wood if anyone wants to take a chance on him

YOUR Hero
03-22-2006, 10:58 PM
I was looking at him on your roster. I was thining (before I traded him) of offereing you Clemens for him. Tell me, would you have made that deal?

RoXer
03-22-2006, 11:21 PM
I'll be on this weekend, I'll do everything.

FakeLaser
03-22-2006, 11:29 PM
I was looking at him on your roster. I was thining (before I traded him) of offereing you Clemens for him. Tell me, would you have made that deal?
Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, both of them will pitch well for half a season.

The Miz
03-22-2006, 11:44 PM
I was looking at him on your roster. I was thining (before I traded him) of offereing you Clemens for him. Tell me, would you have made that deal?

Absolutely. I believe Clemens is going to sign with the Astros on May 1 anyway, and even though Wood is scheduled to come back the same time, I don't trust him to stay healthy.

Who did you trade Clemens to? Maybe I'll offer him Wood.

Evil Vito
03-23-2006, 03:40 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Just got this crazy-ass trade proposal:

I give: Jason Bay, Matt Holliday, Dontrelle Willis
I get: Manny Ramirez, Torii Hunter, Pedro Martinez

Ridiculous, but I'm more than likely not gonna take it. Manny is probably slightly better than Bay at best, Holliday is gonna be a beast. Pedro's gonna have more wins than Willis, but the toe makes him a question mark.

Besides, my main weakness is pitching....and I might be close to acquiring Carlos Zambrano for the price of Eric Chavez (the guy is loaded at pitching but no offense outside of Pujols....plus he has a love affair with Chavez)</font>

YOUR Hero
03-23-2006, 08:04 PM
Who did you trade Clemens to? Maybe I'll offer him Wood.

Adder

MVP
03-23-2006, 10:50 PM
I wish I had seen that wins wasn't a category before the draft. I wouldn't have taken Mark Buehrle and Cliff Lee as my first 2 starters.

MVP
03-23-2006, 10:57 PM
OH NEVER MIND :D

Evil Vito
03-24-2006, 12:53 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Made some more moves today:

-Dropped Rafael Soriano for Neal Cotts because Cotts may be closing instead of Jenks

-Also dropped Bill Mueller and picked up Mike Lowell. I don't think Lowell's gonna suck as bad as he did last year, especially not in Fenway with the lineup he's in. If the proposed Chavez deal works out, this would be my likely starting lineup:

C - Barrett
1B - Tracy
2B - Iguchi
SS - Rollins
3B - Lowell
LF - Bay
CF - Freel/Drew/Wilkerson.....really not sure who to start yet. I'm also considering starting Matt Murton in LF and shifting Bay here.
RF - Abreu
UTIL - Holliday

And if Lowell were to falter, Tracy should get 3B eligibility after a few days and then I can move him there with Freel or Wilky manning 1B</font>

Supreme Olajuwon
03-24-2006, 12:57 AM
Freel isn't a starter bud

FakeLaser
03-24-2006, 01:17 AM
Even if Freel does start he'll probably get hurt or something.

MVP
03-24-2006, 01:04 PM
That's why I didn't take him when I had the chance.

Evil Vito
03-24-2006, 05:12 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Had another draft today. 8 teams, 26 guy rosters....and most guys are starting because the commish doesnt like to have too many bench guys. So almost everybody earns points:

C - Hernandez
1B - Tex
2B - Belliard
SS - Rollins
3B - Ensberg
CI - General
MI - Garciaparra
IF - Berkman
LF - Matsui
CF - Hunter
RF - Tracy
OF - Floyd
OF - Holliday
Util - Huff

P - Unit
SP - Zambrano
SP - Lackey
RP - Mo
RP - C. Cordero
RP - Valverde
P - K. Escobar (available in either SP or RP)
P - Todd Jones
P - Kazmir
P - M. Gonzalez
BN - Rincon
BN - Timlin

I really like this team. Its loaded but every team is in this league. Now I just have to hope that 2 of Lackey/Escobar/Zambrano don't start Opening Day so I'll be able to slide both Rincon and Timlin in.</font>

RoXer
03-25-2006, 07:13 PM
For missing Dave's draft, I'm satisfied with my team. I wouldn't mind striking up a deal for a cloer though (Danbury Mets?)

YOUR Hero
03-25-2006, 07:28 PM
you weren't there? I thought you were... hmm. I'll have to check out your team

Evil Vito
03-25-2006, 08:26 PM
<font color=goldenrod>I understand your offers Hero, but keep in mind I REALLY need a SP

Westbrook and Harang are my top two guys....and that's sad.

Shame I had to miss the draft...damn work.</font>

YOUR Hero
03-25-2006, 08:59 PM
If you are still around, I made you another offer. I'd like to get some feedback (PM) from you.

RoXer
03-25-2006, 11:41 PM
Yeah, what about my deal?

Joey Slugs
03-26-2006, 12:15 AM
fuck. i can't make the draft tomorrow. i hope i don't get fucked.

YOUR Hero
03-26-2006, 02:08 AM
Yeah, what about my deal?

I don't know what I can offer you. PM me with some thoughts.

Joey Slugs
03-27-2006, 01:12 AM
i ended up with a good lineup for offense and then a little lack in the SP department....

but I do have:

M. Rivera
B. Lidge
B. Wagner
B. Ryan
C. Cordero

weird.

Supreme Olajuwon
03-27-2006, 03:36 AM
Vito you can have one of my SPs. I have too many good ones

MVP
03-28-2006, 10:18 PM
Just finished a draft in my league with my friends from home. Pretty satisfied with my lineup:

C - I. Rodriguez
1B - M. Teixeira
2B - M. Ellis
3B - M. Mora
SS - N. Garciaprra
OF - S. Podsednik
OF - P. Burrell
OF - J.D. Drew
Util - B. Inge
Util - R. Baldelli
BN - M. Jacobs
BN - P. Lo Duca
BN - M. Lowell

SP - R. Halladay
SP - B. Zito
SP - M. Mulder
SP - E. Loaiza
RP - B. Wagner
RP - J. Nathan
RP - J. Mesa
SP - C. Silva
SP - R. Lopez
BN - W. Williams
BN -B. Looper

14 teams, I was 12th pick and somehow Teixeira made it to 12th pick so I got him and Halladay right off the bat. Not sure how healthy Drew is gonna be this year, and hopefully Baldelli is 100% as well or else I'm short an OF.

OssMan
03-29-2006, 06:20 PM
just traded Gary Sheffield and Richie Sexson for Mark Teixiera

FakeLaser
03-29-2006, 06:59 PM
just traded Gary Sheffield and Richie Sexson for Mark Teixiera
I wish you were in one of my leagues.

OssMan
03-29-2006, 07:39 PM
I have Jose Guillen and Joey Gathright and picked up Jason Bay so I didn't need another OF, and the guy wanted Sheffield over the others

MVP
03-29-2006, 08:41 PM
Sheff/Sexson + a marginal player would have worked just fine.

FakeLaser
03-29-2006, 11:19 PM
I have Jose Guillen and Joey Gathright and picked up Jason Bay so I didn't need another OF, and the guy wanted Sheffield over the others I wouldn't really count on Guillen (streaky as hell, injury prone, also, plays in RFK where he hit .238 last year and hit only 3 of his 28 HR) and Gathright is only guaranteed a starting job for now.

weather vane
03-30-2006, 05:28 AM
Anybody looking for a 3B? I have Chavez and Chipper.

I'm also looking to get rid of Sweeney. I need a catcher and a SP.

Joey Slugs
03-30-2006, 02:20 PM
My team this year.

HITTERS
Starters:
C - A.J. Pierzynski (CWS)
1B - David Ortiz (BOS)
2B - Brian Roberts (BAL)
3B - Garrett Atkins (COL)
SS - Derek Jeter (NYY)
OF - Brian Anderson (CWS)
OF - Matt Holliday (COL)
OF - Randy Winn (SF)
Util - Palcido Polanco (DET)

Bench:
C - Jorge Posada (NYY)
OF - Garret Anderson (LAA)

PITCHERS
Starters:
Josh Beckett (BOS)
Brandon Webb (ARI)
Josh Towers (TOR)
John Lackey (LAA)
Jeff Weaver (LAA)

Relievers:
Mariano Rivera (NYY)
Billy Wagner (NYM)
B.J. Ryan (TOR)
Chad Cordero (WAS)
Neal Cotts (CWS)

OssMan
03-30-2006, 05:01 PM
Joey Slugs who do you want for Wagner? Make me an offer

Joey Slugs
03-30-2006, 05:52 PM
Joey Slugs who do you want for Wagner? Make me an offer

It all depends on who on your team is available. I have B.J. Ryan available, but I'm STILL waiting on NerF to get back to me on the trade offer.

RoXer
03-30-2006, 06:26 PM
Spilchuck, Make me a deal for Chavez

YOUR Hero
03-30-2006, 10:59 PM
Anybody looking for a 3B? I have Chavez and Chipper.

I'm also looking to get rid of Sweeney. I need a catcher and a SP.

I've made you, what I think, is an great deal for both of us.

YOUR Hero
04-01-2006, 01:51 PM
Spilchuk.
???

The Icon of Elisim
04-01-2006, 06:30 PM
What are the thoughts on this team that I drafted?

C: Barrett
1B: Helton
2B: Weeks
3B: Zimmerman
SS: Greene
OF: Winn
OF: Francouer
OF: Giles
Utility: David Ortiz

Bench: Hillenbrand, Kotsay, Jack Wilson, Orlando Hudson and Catalanto

Pitchers:
Bonderman
Buerhle
Contreras
Pettitte
Ervin Santana

Relievers:
Jenks
Dempster

Backups pitchers:
Chris Ray, Brandon Backe, Seth McClung and Ted Lilly

The Miz
04-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Your bullpen is kinda bad

The Icon of Elisim
04-01-2006, 08:29 PM
Really? I thought it was a strength. 3 closers in a 14 team league

The Miz
04-01-2006, 08:46 PM
Jenks has no job security right now, the last 2 years Ozzie has changed his closer numerous times, and this spring he's already talked about letting Cotts have most of the save chances early in the year. His command has been terrible this spring as well.

Dempster wasn't really that good at all last year, 3.13 ERA and 1.44 WHIP isn't very good for a closer. He'll probably get you saves but could hurt you depending on what the other league categories are.

Ray like Jenks could be removed anytime, and he's never been a closer before so you don't really know how he's going to do. He'll probably be okay but its doubtful he'll last the entire year in that role, and the Orioles aren't afraid to try LaTroy Hawkins.

YOUR Hero
04-01-2006, 08:53 PM
the starters should cover the relievers ERA most of the time, but yeah, Jenks and Ray are pretty iffy.

The Icon of Elisim
04-01-2006, 09:22 PM
Shit hadn't read that stuff about Jenks. I took him early cause all the good closers were going quick and me and my partner wanted a good closer on a good team. Ray was a late round pick up and we are only gonna use him if the other guys don't work out, but hopefully he will be good for trade bait.

I think the team is okay, not expecting to win with this team. I realize that we need a couple guys to overachieve, or atleast get lucky with some trades.

YOUR Hero
04-01-2006, 09:35 PM
there are probably some other closers around. Guys like Mireli or Burgos. While they're not on top tier teams, they should give you something. Esp, if you can make a trade to dump Jenks on someone that doesn't know his job is in jeopardy.

YOUR Hero
04-01-2006, 09:35 PM
and Cotts

The Miz
04-01-2006, 09:51 PM
TB and KC are both also closer-by-comittee so Miceli or Burgos aren't going to be any safer than Jenks and Ray

YOUR Hero
04-01-2006, 10:14 PM
Miceli and Burgos are as good as Jenks, if he can move Jenks to someone not the yet wiser, he should. Esp if he can upgrade in a package deal.

The Miz
04-01-2006, 10:44 PM
How are Miceli and Burgos close to as good as Jenks? Miceli has been a closer one time in his like, 94 with Pittsburgh, 4.66 ERA 1.53 WHIP. He has proven to be a good setup man in the NL but he hasn't pitched in the AL in years (when he did, he sucked) and he has to face the Red Sox, Yankees, Devil Rays, and Orioles lineup almost every time out. If Miceli screws up at all they're going to try other people there, Orvella and Colome will certainly be given a shot sometime down the road. Burgos has one year of ML experience, none as a closer, and had a 3.98 ERA as a setup man. Unless he has an amazing April he is also certainly going to be pushed back into setup because Mike MacDougal will be off the DL. Jenks was simply dominant last year and already has alot of experience. His job is more secure than both of them, and hes much better anyway.

The Icon of Elisim
04-01-2006, 11:40 PM
Thats pretty much what I'm thinking right now.

Drafted him expecting 35 saves, the more I read I still think that he can reach that but I know that 20-25 is mroe realistic. Hopefully they show some faith in him since it looks like he'll struggle out of the gate.

Evil Vito
04-01-2006, 11:56 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Just curious, does anybody have an ESPN Diamond Daily entry?

It's pretty fun, you pick one player per day....and their stats for that day's game are combined with the stats of all the other guys you've chosen during the month. At the end of the year all accumulated stats are combined.

The catch is once you use a player he's gone (I'm pretty sure for the rest of the month)

Also, since its an ESPN thing....all ESPN Sunday Night games count for double stats (both positively and negatively). And since the only game tomorrow is an ESPN Sunday Night game, I'm taking Paul Konerko</font>

The Miz
04-02-2006, 12:59 AM
edit

YOUR Hero
04-07-2006, 11:19 PM
You now what really pisses me off? I mean really really pisses me off. When you edit your line up, you now you did. You are positive, then you go and check it that night to see you've got 2 pitchers benched and they've both won their starts and put up decent pitching stats.

I think what happens is if you set it 3 days in advance it doesn't accept it OR SOMETHING. This happens in hockey too. The real piss off is it doesn't always happen, and then it does and it bites you in the ass.

RoXer
04-08-2006, 12:12 PM
I don't know how to explain it, but theres a way around it.

RoXer
04-08-2006, 04:01 PM
How are Miceli and Burgos close to as good as Jenks? Miceli has been a closer one time in his like, 94 with Pittsburgh, 4.66 ERA 1.53 WHIP. He has proven to be a good setup man in the NL but he hasn't pitched in the AL in years (when he did, he sucked) and he has to face the Red Sox, Yankees, Devil Rays, and Orioles lineup almost every time out. If Miceli screws up at all they're going to try other people there, Orvella and Colome will certainly be given a shot sometime down the road. Burgos has one year of ML experience, none as a closer, and had a 3.98 ERA as a setup man. Unless he has an amazing April he is also certainly going to be pushed back into setup because Mike MacDougal will be off the DL. Jenks was simply dominant last year and already has alot of experience. His job is more secure than both of them, and hes much better anyway.

And I've added all three to my team. :o

Also, I never put any players on the DL because for some reason I was thinking the DL was gone like it was in basketball.

FakeLaser
04-09-2006, 11:10 PM
You now what really pisses me off? I mean really really pisses me off. When you edit your line up, you now you did. You are positive, then you go and check it that night to see you've got 2 pitchers benched and they've both won their starts and put up decent pitching stats.

I think what happens is if you set it 3 days in advance it doesn't accept it OR SOMETHING. This happens in hockey too. The real piss off is it doesn't always happen, and then it does and it bites you in the ass.
Yeah, missed out on Scott Kazmir in one of my leagues today because of that.

Joey Slugs
04-10-2006, 07:36 PM
i know the season is already going (but it's only a week) but is anyone interested in a 8 team, NL only, 5X5 league?

Joey Slugs
04-10-2006, 10:53 PM
Y! Tout Wars
8 Teams
NL Only
6X6
AutoDraft

League ID# 352663
Password: pass

Stats start this Friday.

ct2k
04-14-2006, 07:31 AM
Am i too late to join? :(

Joey Slugs
04-15-2006, 10:52 AM
yeah man, thanks though. i had 9 guys as of thursday and woke up friday morning with 5. i closed it and will bring it back next year.

RoXer
04-15-2006, 12:55 PM
I'm looking for more power in my outfield.

YOUR Hero
04-15-2006, 05:55 PM
Joey I made you a small offer. looking for a bench player

RoXer
04-15-2006, 08:21 PM
I made you a larger offer. :D

YOUR Hero
04-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Come on man. I was looking for an OF bench player with a second position in the IF. Not a swap of a top tier player.

FakeLaser
04-17-2006, 12:13 AM
Yeah 2 weeks in and I am leading both leagues.

FakeLaser
04-17-2006, 12:14 AM
PS, really would like an ace pitcher in the roto league. Willing to part with most guys on my roster.

Also, looking for a SS in the H2H.

YOUR Hero
04-17-2006, 11:31 PM
made you an offer, FakeRazor. Or should I call you the Krebstars.

RoXer
04-17-2006, 11:52 PM
I REALLY need closer in the other H2H league.

FakeLaser
04-18-2006, 12:17 AM
made you an offer, FakeRazor. Or should I call you the Krebstars.
Accepted.

Joey Slugs
04-20-2006, 09:51 PM
TPWWBL:

David Ortiz is on the block.

FakeLaser
04-27-2006, 12:38 PM
TPWWBL:

David Ortiz is on the block.
I'll take him.

The Outlaw
04-27-2006, 01:31 PM
lol dang

FakeLaser
04-28-2006, 01:48 PM
I could use a pitcher. My offense is ridiculous now.

FakeLaser
04-29-2006, 11:28 AM
Yeah, so if anyone wants to take Hank Blalock or Javy Lopez off my hands, I could use a SP. Willing to deal Ryan Howard too.

YOUR Hero
04-30-2006, 02:41 PM
what league are you referring to, FK?

FakeLaser
05-01-2006, 01:20 AM
TPWWBL

Joey Slugs
05-01-2006, 05:28 PM
12 Team
AL Only
Mid-Season
5x5
23 Active Players + 5 Bench & 2 DL
Auto Draft

Mid Season leagues start up May 15th. Anyone interested?

Supreme Olajuwon
05-07-2006, 12:33 PM
what the fuck I can't edit my lineup in the TPWW Head-2-Head League. I can change the pitchers but not the hitters which really sucks because I can take Aubrey Huff off the DL and play him today but it won't let me.

RoXer
05-07-2006, 12:39 PM
Do you have to drop someone when you take him off the DL?

Supreme Olajuwon
05-07-2006, 02:42 PM
no i mean the drop down boxes weren't even on the screen. It's alright now though but that's pretty shitty if that happens a lot.

The Outlaw
05-07-2006, 10:34 PM
All my teams suck basically. :(

YOUR Hero
05-08-2006, 11:09 PM
missing that draft, is starting to take it's toll. Oi-Vey!

Boondock Saint
05-09-2006, 12:36 AM
I've fallen to 6th. OIEHFEWTHR3895UREJWDSKGH :mad:

FakeLaser
05-09-2006, 11:52 AM
1st place and 3rd place (and 1st in my public league). I can't really complain.

RoXer
05-29-2006, 12:56 PM
I love doing so well :love:

Joey Slugs
05-29-2006, 01:16 PM
zero interest in a mid season league?

RoXer
05-29-2006, 01:24 PM
none for me

Crimson
05-29-2006, 08:55 PM
In the H2H league I am in first place.

Have a good day.

RoXer
05-30-2006, 12:28 AM
Yeah, but I am cathcing FIRE

RoXer
06-03-2006, 05:07 PM
Hey look, I'm doing better than The Miz.

Hey look, everyone is! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Also, I will consider trading Gagne, Worrell, Wells, Loaiza, Suppan, Rowand and Gibbons. Looking for some POWER OF or whatever you can give.

FakeLaser
06-05-2006, 05:30 PM
I should be doing better in H2H damn it.

I'm totally destroying the roto league though.

FakeLaser
06-05-2006, 06:03 PM
C - Joe Mauer
1B - David Ortiz
2B - Chase Utley
SS - Felipe Lopez
3B - David Wright
OF - Carl Crawford
OF - Matt Holiday
OF - Chad Tracy
Utl - Ryan Howard
BN - Hank Blalock
BN - Todd Helton

SP - Carlos Zambrano
SP - Tom Glavine
SP - Francisco Liriano
SP - Felix Hernandez
SP - Noah Lowry
RP - Billy Wagner
RP - Akinori Otsuka
RP - Scot Shields
RP - Scott Linebrink
DL - John Patterson

PRETTY STACKED.

Crimson
06-05-2006, 09:41 PM
My hitters aren't the best, but somehow im in 1st place still. It's the chemistry we have, and players sacrificing for the good of the team.

FakeLaser
06-06-2006, 05:28 PM
Exactly what matters in fantasy sports, team chemistry and sacrifice.

The Outlaw
06-08-2006, 04:49 PM
lol

FakeLaser
09-18-2006, 05:54 PM
*BUMP*

So my Krebstars have annhilated the roto league, and are in the finals for H2H. BRING IT

RoXer
09-18-2006, 06:00 PM
:mad:

RoXer
09-18-2006, 06:00 PM
UPSET

FakeLaser
09-18-2006, 06:14 PM
You put up a good fight, RoXer. I was on edge.

FakeLaser
09-18-2006, 06:16 PM
Who are the N Van Valley Girls though? I honestly have no idea.

DaveWadding
09-18-2006, 09:30 PM
Probably Moonax. Pretty sure he's used at least a similar name in other leagues.

YOUR Hero
09-18-2006, 10:53 PM
Endless Nameless :roll:

YOUR Hero
09-18-2006, 10:56 PM
I got upset by Adder, I cannot live this down. I was winning by 3-4 points, then by one... and in the end we were tied, yet he got the win (tie breaker stuff)

FakeLaser
09-18-2006, 11:48 PM
I wish I played for money this year. I'm in 3 leagues and am winning 2 of them. In the finals in the H2H league too, so the worst I can finish is second.

DaveWadding
09-19-2006, 12:14 AM
Endless Nameless :roll:

Oh, give it up already.

CNM
09-19-2006, 12:34 AM
I got upset by Adder, I cannot live this down. I was winning by 3-4 points, then by one... and in the end we were tied, yet he got the win (tie breaker stuff)

Don't worry, I would have destroyed you anyway. Just ask Adder.

DaveWadding
09-19-2006, 12:37 AM
Ahh, the King of Queens graces us with his presence.