Better chance of becoming a WWE/World champ: Carlito or Masters? [Archive]

Funky Fly

02-09-2006, 05:32 PM

Masters will be champ by 2008, mark my words. They're pushing this youngest champ ever thing. So if Orton screws up and gets fired like Lesnar did, then look for Masters to get pushed to the moon.

Carlito will probably get Edged and have a brief heel champ run.

Anybody Thrilla

02-09-2006, 05:40 PM

This guy that I was watching the Rumble with swears that Masters will be the champ some time in 2006. Thinking about it, it doesn't really seem too far fetched.

Regardless, I think that Masters has come a long way, and he's got great things in his future.

Carlito I wasn't too sure about at first, but he's growing on me, and now it seems they're actually allowing him to break out a little more of his moveset. That should help get him over.

I give Masters the edge over Carlito though, if for nothing else but physical stature.

Y3J

02-09-2006, 06:01 PM

Carlito is awesome. Great on the mic and his moveset is becoming a thing of beauty. I see good things for him in the future.

Although I hate to say it, Masters will be champ eventually. He's big which Vince obviously loves and he's been getting a meaningful push as of late. I still think he is very slow and lackluster but that's never been a barrier before. Also, his segments/matches with Carlito make him look better than what he is.

Blitz

02-09-2006, 06:03 PM

Masters, unfortunately

Sadistic

02-09-2006, 06:04 PM

Neither, fortunately.

Lock Jaw

02-09-2006, 06:12 PM

Masters will never be champ.

Carlito, there is a chance years down the road.

Kane Knight

02-09-2006, 06:22 PM

A half-retarded ape would become champion within 3 years of entering the WWE. There is no question as to who would receive it first, whether or not Masters has improved or was even remotely deserving.

Xero

02-09-2006, 06:28 PM

A half-retarded ape would become champion within 3 years of entering the WWE.
Albert never won the title...

Y3J

02-09-2006, 06:29 PM

Albert never won the title...

...Test was holding him back.

Kane Knight

02-09-2006, 06:32 PM

Albert never won the title...

HALF retarded.

Kane Knight

02-09-2006, 06:32 PM

Oh, I see. You assumed my dyslexia was acting up, and I meant "retarded half-ape."

Xero

02-09-2006, 06:34 PM

Yup. :shifty:

The CyNick

02-09-2006, 07:21 PM

There is If WWE didn't believe in Masters, they would ahve buried him by now. I dont watch every match every week, but I dont recall him getting pinned too often. That would lead me to believe he will get a run with the title in 06.

The wildcard is what Hunter wants to do this year. If he wants to be the only heel champ, then obviosuly Masters will ahve to wait. However, I think the title picture will still revolve around Cena next year, and Masters will beat him at some point.

Carlito will also be champion, but I dont think ti will happen this year. I think he's looking at 07.

crock69

02-09-2006, 07:27 PM

If Masters turns face, I can see him as a champion, but not before Carlito gets at least a 2 month run with it.

mrslackalack

02-09-2006, 10:23 PM

I see Carlito as champ first, I mean he won the U.S. Title in his first televised match with WWE!

Sephiroth

02-09-2006, 10:32 PM

Masters, unfortunately

Kane Knight

02-09-2006, 10:37 PM

I see Carlito as champ first, I mean he won the U.S. Title in his first televised match with WWE!

The mid-card belts are totally worthless and no longer stepping stones to the main event.

Just look at the IC title.

Stickman

02-10-2006, 01:30 AM

I think only Masters will ever win it. Carlito is too small in height and build, he sounds stupid when he talks, and he's not very good in the ring. I'm not saying Masters is any better, I just think he looks more like a champ and has a greater upside.

02-10-2006, 01:34 AM

Masters, he's taller. (Truth hurts)

D Mac

02-10-2006, 04:04 AM

None of the above. Nada. Zip. Xero. Zilch. We're closed, thank you drive thru.

Xero

02-10-2006, 08:54 AM

None of the above. Nada. Zip. Xero. Zilch. We're closed, thank you drive thru.
What? :shifty:

Anybody Thrilla

02-10-2006, 11:59 AM

None of the above. Nada. Zip. Xero. Zilch. We're closed, thank you drive thru.

All right then, out of the new crop of talent in the WWE currently, who do you think has a better chance than those two?

Kane Knight

02-10-2006, 12:11 PM

All right then, out of the new crop of talent in the WWE currently, who do you think has a better chance than those two?

What do you define as "new talent?"

Anybody Thrilla

02-10-2006, 12:26 PM

Uhhh....making debuts since 2003.

Xero

02-10-2006, 01:18 PM

In WWE or professionally?

Anybody Thrilla

02-10-2006, 01:24 PM

WWE.

alvarado52

02-10-2006, 02:27 PM

Carlito should, Masters will because Vince has a hard-on for the bigger built guys

Nark Order

02-10-2006, 02:45 PM

I say we genetically construct a Carlito/Masters hybrid

manmadeofsteel

02-10-2006, 03:05 PM

Carlito deserves to be the wwe champ.

Anybody Thrilla

02-10-2006, 03:11 PM

I say we genetically construct a Carlito/Masters hybrid

Mastito spits in the face of people who don't want to take steroids.

Mr. Nerfect

02-10-2006, 04:25 PM

I think both have a fair shot at winning the big one, but I'm going to say Carlito first.

Colon is more polished in the ring, he can bust out some nice stuff (that double springboard corkscrew somersault senton was move of the week, in my opinion). Carlito has got solid crowd recognition, and could effectively get good face or heel heat.

Masters is good, but he's not quite there yet. The fans are still fairly apathetic to the guy, but given time he will hold the belt. Right now I think he should be working the mid-card, though. In a few years, Masters could very well be a major attraction for the WWE. Carlito could honestly be there now.

alvarado52

02-10-2006, 06:10 PM

i think they are doing a good thing with the whole Masters/Carlito deal though, thats one of the few directions the WWE is doing right. But, that will probably end soon, if not already ended.

Kane Knight

02-10-2006, 07:05 PM

I say we genetically construct a Carlito/Masters hybrid

Now DAS cool.

Kane Knight

02-10-2006, 07:06 PM

i think they are doing a good thing with the whole Masters/Carlito deal though, thats one of the few directions the WWE is doing right. But, that will probably end soon, if not already ended.

No, theyll do it until everyone has a hardon for it, then drop it without warrant.

D Mac

02-11-2006, 01:30 AM

What? :shifty:

LOL You're very observant. :p

D Mac

02-11-2006, 01:31 AM

All right then, out of the new crop of talent in the WWE currently, who do you think has a better chance than those two?

Probably Shelton.

Kane Knight

02-11-2006, 09:48 AM

Probably Shelton.

LOL!

...Wait, were you serious?

starfox8500

02-11-2006, 01:33 PM

I say we genetically construct a Carlito/Masters hybrid

*bows* would be better than Brad's and Angelina's god baby:shifty:

D Mac

02-11-2006, 04:21 PM

LOL!

...Wait, were you serious?

Lord I hope not. :(

Anybody Thrilla

02-11-2006, 05:20 PM

Shelton's momma probably has a better chance, tbh.

John la Rock

02-12-2006, 11:56 AM

Carlito will be WWE champ someday. I just hope he isn't pushed to the moon within his first 2-3 years in the WWE like some wrestlers (Cena, Orton, Batista)

Fox

02-12-2006, 06:27 PM

I really don't see either of them with the belt. They're good talents, and Carlito can actually go in the ring, but neither of them are top enough to headline a PPV.

John Cena vs. Chris Masters for the WWE Championship? No.

John Cena vs. Carlito for the WWE Championship? No.

Maybe on an episode of RAW, but definitely not at an event where people are paying $35 to see it. They just haven't been able to look dominant enough in a respectable or believable manner. Masters' "Masterlock Challenge" was a good way to start, but eventually it came down to him either choking out a jobber or over-the-hill star, or using it as build-up for another angle (HBK and Cena are good examples).

Carlito really hasn't been given anything spectacular to do since taking the IC Title off of Shelton Benjamin. Plus, I really can't see a WWE Champion with that afro in this day and age.

Anybody Thrilla

02-12-2006, 06:40 PM

Carlito will be WWE champ someday. I just hope he isn't pushed to the moon within his first 2-3 years in the WWE like some wrestlers (Cena, Orton, Batista)

In Batista's defense, he was pretty old when he started getting over. It was then or never, basically.

And I'm pretty sure Cena was in development for quite some time. Same with Carlito.

McLegend

02-12-2006, 06:43 PM

I voted for Carlito, but in truth Masters will be World Champ first...Probably

Anybody Thrilla

02-12-2006, 06:48 PM

So why the fuck did you vote for Carlito?

McLegend

02-12-2006, 06:50 PM

I wasn't thinking at the time I voted. Honestly

Anybody Thrilla

02-12-2006, 06:51 PM

:nono:

:heart:

Kane Knight

02-12-2006, 07:08 PM

I really don't see either of them with the belt. They're good talents, and Carlito can actually go in the ring, but neither of them are top enough to headline a PPV.

Right now.

Perhaps you should consider the eventuality of the business.

Anybody Thrilla

02-12-2006, 07:11 PM

ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WWE!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

Kane Knight

02-12-2006, 07:13 PM

In Batista's defense, he was pretty old when he started getting over. It was then or never, basically.

And I'm pretty sure Cena was in development for quite some time. Same with Carlito.

Batista and Cena are pretty defensible.

Batista, old or not, was getting mad over with the fans. He was something that the WWE was promoting that the fans were actually buying up.

Cena, his new gimmick became huge, and the WWE decided to run with it. SHIT, if they hadn't fucked with his character, he'd probably be THE franchise right now and the argument would be moot.

McLegend

02-12-2006, 07:16 PM

And as long as we are talking about young people getting the title.

I think Orton getting the title was good. Compeletly fucking his character and taking the title off of him after a month however was bad. Very bad

Anybody Thrilla

02-12-2006, 07:17 PM

Cena, his new gimmick became huge, and the WWE decided to run with it. SHIT, if they hadn't fucked with his character, he'd probably be THE franchise right now and the argument would be moot.

I admit, I used to mark like a bitch for Cena.

Anybody Thrilla

02-12-2006, 07:18 PM

I marked for the Orton title win, too. But when he turned full fledged face (the next night), I knew I wasn't going to enjoy him much anymore.

Kane Knight

02-12-2006, 07:37 PM

I admit, I used to mark like a bitch for Cena.

A lot of people did. And even though I wasn't the hugest fan, I recognised the potential he had to bring back the business. Orton and Cena easily could have been the salvation of this company (Even if a lot of people hate the wigger and metrosexual)...

Fox

02-12-2006, 10:03 PM

Right now.

Perhaps you should consider the eventuality of the business.

Eventually Triple H and Stephanie will die, but until then, he's the top heel, and nobody else.

Kane Knight

02-12-2006, 10:14 PM

Eventually Triple H and Stephanie will die, but until then, he's the top heel, and nobody else.

And nobody's held either strap since HHH got tenure?

Kane Knight

02-12-2006, 10:15 PM

Eventually Triple H and Stephanie will die, but until then, he's the top heel, and nobody else.

And nobody's held either strap since HHH got tenure?