Metal Gear Solid 3 ending *Spoilers*

[Fignuts]

Ok, so I just beat MGS 3, and the ending was incredibly powerful. Absolutly fantastic, and the story as a whole was better than MGS2. (Which is vastly underrated, IMO.) I am rarely, if ever moved, by a videogame's story, but it just stuck with me days after I beat it.

So, discuss the greatness that is MGS 3, or the metal gear series as a whole.

[Disturbed316]

It's strange, I never really bothered with MGS1, but loved MGS2 and I couldn't really get into MGS3 :-\

[Me]

The ending of MSG 3 also moved me. Days later I was still replaying it in my head. It was the most powerful moment in a game I ever seen. But the ladder climb (if you played the game you know the one I am talking about) is still my favorite part of the game.

[Blitz]

The whole MGS series is the goods, but yeah, 3's the best.

That boss battle with The End? Awesome.

[Boondock Saint]

I just started playing this. Have had it for a while now. Friggin hard. I loved MGS 1, never played 2.

This first mission in the jungle is hard shit. :mad:

[Xero]

Really great game, one of the best ever. If they do ever do a MGS movie, I would hope that they'd base at least the first one on MGS 3 (as that's the earliest in the series timeline-wise anyway).

[Sephiroth]

MGS is indeed the goods.

I haven't played 3 in a while now, because it's at my parents home.

But from what i have seen and played, it's far better then part 1 and 2.

I really liked 1 and enjoyed 2, but i liked 3 much better then both parts combined from what i have played and i can't wait untill part 4 :love:

[Xero]

MGS4 is one of the major factors of me getting the PS3.

[Fignuts]

It's strange, I never really bothered with MGS1, but loved MGS2 and I couldn't really get into MGS3 :-\


I know exactly what you mean.

The transition of the first two to 3 is tough. I wasn't into it at first either.

STICK WITH IT

It gets amazing.

[LK]

At first I wasn't too keen on MSG 3 mainly cause I prefer using the D-pad instead of the analogue stick but after a while you realise that the game is greatness. The whole scene when you are in the bike, getting chased by the big tank thing (can't think of the name) is just awesome.

PS Ocelot rules. Ever since I played that game I have found myself doing the Ocelot pose.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I haven't been able to get into it for a few reasons. Dunno why.

One big thing though, is that I know there's a lot of snakes in that game (aside from THE Snake, of course. :p). Don't ask why, but that gives me the creeps. I've considered buying MGS 3 SO many times, since I know it'll undoubtably be great, but seeing the snakes in the strategy guide gave me the creeps somewhat. Same thing in RE 4. I got so freaking creeped out every time I went up to a barrel, since the first time I saw a snake, I was REALLY surprised, to say the least.

But I know undoubtably that this game is great. Just have to get over my little creeped out spell before I get into it. But someone tell me, and this will certainly sound weird: How exactly do the snakes behave on there? Jumping out at you, hiding from you and striking, what? Never really been bothered by "jump" scares in games (although RE 4 freaked me out quite a bit in parts), but I'm really weary of this.

[Blitz]

I haven't played MGS3 in a while so don't quote me on this, but I don't recall any snakes attacking me in the game, certainly nothing that shocked me.

The Oven Man in RE4, tho...That's another story. :nono:

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Oven Man...God, I remember that. Freaked me out a bit, but the Regenerators freaked me out a bit worse.

But as for the snake thing, really? You don't recall any at all?

I know that sounds horribly stupid on my part, but it's just a little tick. Kind of freaked out about it. After reading about this though, I think I'm gonna go pick up MGS 3 on Monday, and pick up Substenence next month when it comes out, since it has all three of the MGS games.

But if anyone can clear up how those damned snakes act in this game (hissing, jumping, etc? What can I expect?), I'd appreciate it. I could've sworn I saw several different kinds in the strategy guide. Some were poisonous, some were bright colors, etc, etc., if I remember right.

[Astley316]

I had mgs3 for a while, and sorta played it a bit, got stuck half way through, anyways i was bored one tuesday on my day off work, played it 7hrs straight and got to the end, and after i saw the ending it was like woah. The ending was brilliant like previously stated above, it really stuck with me for a few days afterwards.

[Me]

But if anyone can clear up how those damned snakes act in this game (hissing, jumping, etc? What can I expect?), Basically no. If you hang around them too long they will, but you'll have plenty of time to kill them before they act up.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I have to beat the game again damnit. To get the invis camo. Plus, I need to see...

****Spoilers***





I need to see where they show Ocelot in the White House seen damn it.

[CharismaInjection]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just keep your finger on R1 during the White House Scene.

Yep, MGS3 rocked, and I feel it was the best MGS, best story and great twist at the end. The ending rocked.

[McDoogle]

It's my favorite game series. I loved every single game even the 8-bit nes games.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Okay, so like, after hearing about the snake behavior (and yeah, I DO feel stupid asking about something so insignificant, but I was creeped. What can I say? :p), and hearing that they only lay on the ground, I'm gonna go get this tomorrow. I know it has a kickass story, and amazing characters.

So on the note of characters, I want to share this with you all.

http://ocelotsing.ytmnd.com/

Yes, be shocked.

[AareDub]

I couldn't stand the gameplay of MGS3, but I downloaded a save with the invisible cammo and ran through the parts I didn't like. I played all of the boss (not just The Boss) fights though. Anyway, that's not the point. This game has one of the best stories I've ever seen in a game. Like you guys said, the ending stuck with me for a few days. I wish I could piece together all the movies/cutscenes and the significant fights into something I could sit and watch again.

[Nowhere Man]

I've been playing MGS3 for the first time lately, and I'm stuck in the part of Groznyj Grad where Snake has to disguise himself as a scientist to mug Raikenov (I love all the shots they take at Raiden for that scene, by the way). For some reason, even when I'm disguised and don't have face-paint on, the guards still instantly recognize me as an enemy. It sucks that I got bogged down in a part so frustrating, because up till that point I was having a blast.

Given that I won't be able to beat the game any time soon (I borrowed it from a friend who's moving away tomorrow), would anyone care to tell me how it ends?

[Me]

Do you have your gun equipped?

[Blitz]

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/metal_gear_solid_3_script.txt

Here's a link to the game script, Nowhere Man. You can find the ending in there.

[Nowhere Man]

Do you have your gun equipped?

Nope. You can't equip guns when you're in the scientist outfit anyway, just the chloroform rag and the cig spray.

[Nowhere Man]

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/metal_gear_solid_3_script.txt

Here's a link to the game script, Nowhere Man. You can find the ending in there.

Many thanks, my good man.

[Boondock Saint]

So I finally beat the Virtuous mission. I took out all the guards on the way to rescuing the scientist even though I was supposed to use stealth. Ah well.

Now The Boss turned heel and I fell off a bridge. Splendid.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I couldn't stand the gameplay of MGS3, but I downloaded a save with the invisible cammo and ran through the parts I didn't like. I played all of the boss (not just The Boss) fights though. Anyway, that's not the point. This game has one of the best stories I've ever seen in a game. Like you guys said, the ending stuck with me for a few days. I wish I could piece together all the movies/cutscenes and the significant fights into something I could sit and watch again.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/212695

Watched all of them a few weeks ago. Man oh man is MGS2 LONG. No fights btw just the cutscenes and key convos.

[McDoogle]

Para-Medic: Are you smoking a cigarette?

Snake: Nope.

Para-Medic: Yes you are.

Snake: It's not a cigarette, it's a cigar.

Para-Medic: Same thing.

Snake: Not at all. In fact, there's a world of difference. There's nothing
quite like the rich smell and mellow flavor of a cigar. And that thick,
luxurious smoke is almost sensual when it...

Para-Medic: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. You know something?

Snake: Probably not, but I don't want to hear it.

[CharismaInjection]

MGS3 had great convos.

SIGINT: Snake, what's going on, why you naked? It gives you know tactical advantage whatsoever, in fact, there are no advantages to being naked.

SNAKE: Sure there are.

SIGINT: Like what?

SNAKE: It feels good...

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BOSS: Jack, what the hell are you wearing???

SNAKE: It's a tuxedo, don't you like it?

BOSS: [YELLS AT HIM LIKE CRAZY]

SNAKE: ...I thought you'd like it...

----------------------------

lol.

[Splaya]

The Sniper mission in MGS3 is my favorite mission of any RPG game or shooter game ever. It was just intense, it took me 3 hours to beat when I finally beat it

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Just picked this up a few minutes ago.


I extracted Sokolov and was attacked by the bees/hornets on the bridge. That's as far as I am to this point. Awesome so far.

[Blitz]

Goddamnit, now I wanna play this again. :mad:

GONNA LOOK FOR A CHEAP COPY THIS WEEK!!!

[Blitz]

Or should I wait for Subsistence?

[Dave Youell]

Honestly I hated the game play.

IMO there's WAAAAY too much jungle stuff and the radar pissed me off.

Yes the storyline was great, but IMO the best overall game is still MGS 1 as Raiden is a fag

[Boondock Saint]

I'm at The Pain/Bee dude,. WHat's the easiest way to take him out? Whatshisface said to huck nades at him to get rid of the bees and then shoot, but that seems really tedious, especially with having to go in the water to dodge the bees.

I just fought Ocelot and now another boss. You don't have a boss battle for like 45 min then 2 in a row. I need time to mentally prepare for another one! :mad:

[Blitz]

Easiest way to get rid of the bees around The Pain is a couple of shotgun blasts.

You're going to have to dive into the water a few times during the fight no matter what.

[Boondock Saint]

Yeah I took of him. Now I'm right in front of the compound where Sokolov is I think. I believe I'm supposed to bust out my scientist outfit soon. Just passed through a forest with a bunch of traps but didn't set any off. :cool:

The Fear looks like he's gonna be a real pain to kill when I get there. Jumpin around and shit.

[redoneja]

The Fear was actually the easiest one, if you have the right equipment.

[Blitz]

You think The Fear's tough, wait'll you meet The End :)

Make sure you've got about an hour to kill...

[AareDub]

... or a week, heh. :shifty:

[Jonster]

Or change the PS2's clock.

[Blitz]

If you're a cheap bastard.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

LOL, I love that trick.

I just fought The End for the first time, but I read about that little easy way out before.

I wanted to get his camo, but I could not sneak up on him for anything. :mad:

Seemed really difficult to sneak up on, and difficult to find, but actually KILLING him was simple.


I'm curious though. How much more of the game is there? I'm loving it, but I keep getting the feeling that it's not totally intense yet (although I LOVED the part where you dress as the scientist).

[McDoogle]

To sneak up on the end is VERY difficult and you can only do it at certain areas with the tall grass but you have to maintain looking at him because if he looks at your direction while you're crawling you're screwed.

[McDoogle]

And I tried that changing the clock trick and it ended up killing me not him. Like im asleep on a tree and The End kills me.

[Boondock Saint]

Yup, I knew it. The Fear is pissing me off. :mad:

[UmbrellaCorporation]

It sucks to locate The Fear. Found that out yesterday.

But when you find him, it's easy pickings, mostly. Hate going up against his super camoflauge though. :mad:

[Blitz]

You are using the thermal googles, right?

[JT1]

am not sure if it's just me but i found both 2 and 3 far too short. 3 is a vast improvement on 2 but neither is a patch on 1..what a game. still go back and play it every now and again just for the memories.

[AareDub]

And I tried that changing the clock trick and it ended up killing me not him. Like im asleep on a tree and The End kills me.

You're not setting it far enough ahead. If you change it within a week he'll kill you. Make sure you're setting it longer than 1 week ahead

[McDoogle]

Shit I thought you change it like an hour ahead.

[Boondock Saint]

You are using the thermal googles, right?

Yeah but my weapons suck. Low on ammo and it's slim pickins around me.

[Boondock Saint]

Also low on bandages and shit.

[Boondock Saint]

LOL nevermind. I always beat it like right after post in here, wtf. And that was my first try after a few hours break. Always seems to be how it works.

IS there a reason why these guys blow up? Are they robots or something?

[Blitz]

IS there a reason why these guys blow up? Are they robots or something?

Taken from a Plot Analysis FAQ at gamefaqs.com:

Q u e s t i o n & A n s w e r # 2

* Why do the Cobras explode when you kill them?

I originally thought that the answer wasn't explained in the game and had two
theories as to why they exploded. However, this isn't the case and I was
e-mailed by three people on how to find out the truth. After facing The Fury,
call Major Zero enough times and Snake will ask why the Cobras keep exploding. The major mentions something about "the legend of the Cobra Unit" and puts on Sigint to supply you with the answer.

The cause of the explosions are microbombs; each Cobra member carried one on them. The reason for this comes from their missions back during World War II. As Sigint puts it, "their missions were so top secret that not only were they forbidden to be taken prisoner, they couldn't even leave their corpse behind. Because of this, or so the legend goes, they carried a microbomb with them on their missions in case they needed to commit suicide." But why do they still carry the microbombs on them? Snake takes this question with the explanation that "maybe they're ready to die. They've got no unit to go back to. Not even a country." So, the Cobras know it's do or die-- if they can't accomplish their mission then they've got nothing to live for.

[Extreme Angle]

completed the game like 3 and a half times i think..
first time was amazing but i missed alot out...
got stuck on the end so i just fast forwarded my clock to make him catch me...
*kinda spoilers*
i missed snake pissin himself on the part where his eye comes out... my friend told me and i was shocked and didn't want to believe it... then 2nd time through i think he was with me... i noticed it...
2nd time through took me 5 hours to complete..
got everything unlocked apart from the sniper rifle the end has...
got moss camo thou :love:
Can't wait to get subsistance... who here will be playing it online with me?
is it just me or is fighting the end and you got a sniper rifle aiming and looking around you keep thinking he is gonna sneak up on you...
I really get eary when fighting the end alone...
my heart goes jumping...
anyway to find out where he is so you can snipe him easier...
get a torch put it on and run around in circles till he shoots you... immediatly go on cure and get the bulltet out...
then on the map it will show you where he is...
then just snipe him..
and here is a clip of subsistance it looks amazing.
http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/748/748590/vids_1.html
its the one with eva on it...

[Boondock Saint]

The End :foc:

[Boondock Saint]

HA. You're dead old man!

[RoXer]

Is there sometihng different that happens when you answer the question in the very begining? The on that gives you choices like...

I'm new to the MGS series!
I like MGS1!
I like MGS2!

[Blitz]

I can't remember what happens when you say MGS1, but the MGS2 option gives you a Raiden mask in your inventory at the beginning of the game, and a little extra dialogue about it.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

If you say you're new, nothing happens.

Say you like MGS 1 better, and your Stamina drains slower.

And if you say MGS2, yeah, you get the Raiden package, so to speak.

[Boondock Saint]

OK, now I'm pissed. The Fury :mad:

K, now that I've posted that I'll beat it next time I play.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

The Fury is an awesome fight.

You know what pissed me off in the game though?

***SPOILERS***








THat goddamn "fight" against The Sorrow.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah I had to do that like, 5 times before I caught on. Should've killed less people :'(

[The Cerebral Assassin]

http://www.mininova.org/tor/212695

Watched all of them a few weeks ago. Man oh man is MGS2 LONG. No fights btw just the cutscenes and key convos.

How long did it take to download?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

So I beat this game a couple of days ago, and...wow. That's all I can say.

The ending practically brought me to tears, and the last confrontation with *HIGHLIGHT*:

Ocelot was amazing. Just pressing R1 and watching him juggle the revolvers was insane, but actually going against him in a standoff was great. Probably one of the most memorable things that I've seen in a video game ever.

So I bought MGS 2 today (despite the weirdness I've heard about it), and I'm looking for MGS 1. I intend to pick up Subsistence too, when it comes out.

Oh, and I managed to get The End's camo after getting the Spirit camouflage from The Sorrow. No sound while moving = Instant Win.

Now only to either A) Go through the game with no alerts (not happening for me, as I suck with stealth), or B) Catch a Tschukinoko (far more likely) to get the Infinity Face Paint.

[AareDub]

The bit with The Sorrow was one of my favorite parts of the whole game.

[RoXer]

If you're trying to find MGS1 just pick up Twin Snakes for Gamecube. It's the same thing practically.

[Dave Youell]

If you're trying to find MGS1 just pick up Twin Snakes for Gamecube. It's the same thing practically.
Yeah, but with the sexyness of MGS2 as you have first person view and can use the lockers

[Mr. Monday Morning]

How long did it take to download?

Quite a while, but then I downloaded all 3. Depends how many seeders there are really.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Quite a while, but then I downloaded all 3. Depends how many seeders there are really.

Did it take days or hours to download?

[FearedSanctity]

Days for me

[Volchok]

I had the game and loved it. But then I sold it, and now I want it back :(

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Did it take days or hours to download?

Days, but I was downloading other stuff as well. Plus like I said I downloaded the whole torrent, not just one part.

[Just John]

MGS is awesome, I'm really bad at the though, I'm good at stealth, but the whole stamina in MGS3 pisses me off, every minuite I have to eat a crap or something, then I have to stock up on crabs. :-\ I can only do it on Very Easy, and even that was hard.

I never fought The End, if you set the PS2 clock forward a week, he dies of old age before you fight. This time though I'm all up for taking him on, and I have the spirit Camo, so it should be easy.

Where do you get the choc chip camo? And also, I loved the sorrow, thing is though, only about 2 people walked down, this time around though, I killed everyone I met (stealthily btw)

Oh yeah, how do you interrigate guards? I can never do it right, I try to grab him, but it just slashes at him.