View Full Version : NO MANIA BUILDUP AT ALL
Dorkchop
02-20-2006, 12:30 AM
Why is there practically no buildup this year for Wrestlemania 22? It's supposed to be their biggest show of the year but they haven't been hyping up anything... Except for the fact that it's Wrestlemania. They work all year for Wrestlemania, you know.
There have been no angles or storylines built up for the past few months. Everything is being thrown together in the last month or so. How is anyone going to be hyped for this shit (and I do mean shit) when you have no actual idea what the hell is going to happen? What about Kane, Big Show, every tag team, Carlito, Masters, JBL, Boogeyman, Lashley, RVD, Shelton Benjamin, The Con Man (HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! We all know what he'll be doing; popcorn vendor), and now Rey Mysterio?
The only one angle or storyline they've been progressively pushing is HBK vs Vince. ONE god damn match they've been setting up to happen at Mania. Even though I'd rather have HBK face a wrestler, I'm really into this storyline, and want to see the match that has yet to be announced. If they did this with every other match, maybe people would care.
We know that Cena vs HHH is going to happen, but it has yet to be booked on actual TV. It has not been built up at all... Only on the internet. I can think of one small thing that actually involved HHH and Cena together.
Their has been absolutely no build up for their two biggest matches for the night. We just found out who Angle is going to face at Mania. Yay, now the WWE have like 5-6 weeks to do something they normally do for months. There's no storyline for Cena in mania.
It's really stupid of the WWE to only build up the fact that it's Wrestlemania. I'm most likely going to miss Mania this year and you know what? Right now I don't care too much.
End rant.
Funky Fly
02-20-2006, 12:36 AM
HBK/McMahon's been buiding up.
Orton/Angle/(possibly Mysterio) is sort of being built up.
HHH/Cena will probably start on Monday.
Edge/Fole just started.
There's like 5 weeks till Mania. They'll get their build up in somehow.
Dorkchop
02-20-2006, 12:47 AM
HBK/McMahon's been buiding up.
Orton/Angle/(possibly Mysterio) is sort of being built up.
HHH/Cena will probably start on Monday.
Edge/Fole just started.
There's like 5 weeks till Mania. They'll get their build up in somehow.
Yeah, but it's all going to be rushed. They should have saved Benoit and Booker T for Mania (Even though I'm against Benoit downgrading to the US title. He deserves to be in the main event). That match could possibly be the best of the night.
I agree 100%
that is all.
Kane Knight
02-20-2006, 12:56 AM
What's there to big a shit about this year anyway? I wouldn't hype it either.
Xerzes
02-20-2006, 12:57 AM
Maybe Masters will fight cancer at Wrestlemania. I hope he jobs.
Maybe Masters will fight cancer at Wrestlemania. I hope he jobs.
that's not cool man, seriously
Yeah, but it's all going to be rushed. They should have saved Benoit and Booker T for Mania (Even though I'm against Benoit downgrading to the US title. He deserves to be in the main event). That match could possibly be the best of the night.
So it's going to be rushed because they only have five weeks to hype? You do realize they usually only have four week to hype a PPV right? *waits for the 'but its WM rant'*
redoneja
02-20-2006, 01:12 AM
They did Austin/Rock at X-Seven in 5 weeks
HeartBreakMan2k
02-20-2006, 01:13 AM
So it's going to be rushed because they only have five weeks to hype? You do realize they usually only have four week to hype a PPV right? *waits for the 'but its WM rant'*
That rant is true though. Wrestlemania is your biggest show of the year and you give it just as much hype as a regular PPV? Doesn't make it so special now does it?
redoneja
02-20-2006, 01:13 AM
But to play Devil's Advocate, that was before the brand extension so they had 10 shows for buildup as opppsed to 5.
PullMyFinger
02-20-2006, 01:37 AM
Last year's Wrestlemania I was into, but not this years. This years is lackluster. Though nothing compares to the Wrestlemania's of the Attitude Era...man those were the best.
HeartBreakMan2k
02-20-2006, 01:44 AM
It's not even that the matches on the card are THAT horrible. There have been worse, yet those Mania's still had me excited through build up, I have no desire to watch for the first time like... ever.
James Steele
02-20-2006, 02:17 AM
All I have to say is this:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2/book53ot.jpg
Corkscrewed
02-20-2006, 02:28 AM
They did Austin/Rock at X-Seven in 5 weeks
Yes, but that had the benefit of like four or five years of history prior to that.
Savio
02-20-2006, 02:39 AM
how long was angle brock booked for? 5 months?
Jordan
02-20-2006, 02:40 AM
They will have enough build up, they do things fast now, I wish they would build up for months like they used too but thats life.
Schoenauer
02-20-2006, 03:38 AM
No, there won't be build up because at this point, I bet Vince is going to change up the card in ways thinking we won't remember what's been happening..
*waits for the 'but its WM rant'*
Just because you are "waiting for it" doesn't make the "rant" any less valid. If you are implying WM doesn't deserve more than the standard 4 weeks, why don't you explain why?
Of course the biggest payperview of the year is going to need longer build than the standard ones.
94 SVT Cobra
02-20-2006, 04:36 AM
nothing compares to the Wrestlemania's of the Attitude Era...man those were the best.
Mr. Nerfect
02-20-2006, 05:02 AM
What really gets me is that the WWE hasn't changed its original plans at all. Randy Orton is still challenging for the World Heavyweight Title, Triple H is still challenging for the WWE Championship. The WWE shook things up with a potential Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio or Edge vs. Rey Mysterio main event. Now Rey has no program for the card what-so-ever.
The WWE should just focus on getting as many talented guys on the card as possible to take away from this fact. Have Chris Benoit face William Regal for the United States Championship; have MNM defend the WWE Tag Team Championship against Paul London & Brian Kendrick and The Mexicools in a TLC Match, etc.
Edge vs. Mick Foley should be good, and I can see this being a WM-style match. Angle vs. Orton is likely going to be one of those "this should be good, but I wish it had a story matches". The plans are for Orton to win his second World Heavyweight Championship, I think, but I really hope Angle retains the title.
For some reason, I still see Rey Mysterio vs. Booker T as being on the WrestleMania card, even though Booker is no longer US Champion.
They did Austin/Rock at X-Seven in 5 weeks
What was that feud over again?
Eddie Guerrero died, Batista got injured, the fans turned on John Cena, and Chris Jericho left. Those things probably fucked with their long terms plans a little bit, which would account for the current state of things.
...although Jericho leaving probably had nothing to do with the plans for WM's main event.
Londoner
02-20-2006, 06:20 AM
Eddie Guerrero died, Batista got injured, the fans turned on John Cena, and Chris Jericho left. Those things probably fucked with their long terms plans a little bit, which would account for the current state of things.
...although Jericho leaving probably had nothing to do with the plans for WM's main event.
And you can't help but think that if they re-joined the rosters they wouldn't be in so much shit coming up to mania.I agree with the starter of this thread.
Pinnacle Charisma
02-20-2006, 07:11 AM
Eddie Guerrero died, Batista got injured, the fans turned on John Cena, and Chris Jericho left. Those things probably fucked with their long terms plans a little bit, which would account for the current state of things.
...although Jericho leaving probably had nothing to do with the plans for WM's main event.
If Bats didnt get injured it would have been Bats vs Orton but cena getting booed had nothing to do with his wm main event. If Cena didnt get booed they would have had him go over HHH at this years wm after a year long run. Cena would still go over HHH so that dosnt change much.
I think the wwe are just getting lazy in all aspects of thier production now. I mean they left the belts on two face champions for roughily the same time for no good reason as they where not making much money and in cena's case hurting the product. Also the last few manias they have including this one they have had the same heel/face runs.
Pinnacle Charisma
02-20-2006, 07:11 AM
Eddie Guerrero died, Batista got injured, the fans turned on John Cena, and Chris Jericho left. Those things probably fucked with their long terms plans a little bit, which would account for the current state of things.
...although Jericho leaving probably had nothing to do with the plans for WM's main event.
If Bats didnt get injured it would have been Bats vs Orton but cena getting booed had nothing to do with his wm main event. If Cena didnt get booed they would have had him go over HHH at this years wm after a year long run. Cena would still go over HHH so that dosnt change much.
I think the wwe are just getting lazy in all aspects of thier production now. I mean they left the belts on two face champions for roughily the same time for no good reason as they where not making much money and in cena's case hurting the product. Also the last few manias they have including this one they have had the same heel/face runs leading up to the big one(execpt wm20).
They did Austin/Rock at X-Seven in 5 weeks
You have to remember they used to work two shows per week back then, so really it was 10 shows rather than the 5 they would get now.
RVD vs Carlito is going to steal the show this year.
Kane Knight
02-20-2006, 10:51 AM
how long was angle brock booked for? 5 months?
Again, that'd go back to the whole "history" thing.
James Steele
02-20-2006, 11:34 AM
If anybody thinks that Cena is going to beat Triple H at WrestleMania, you are a fucking ignorant ass.
redoneja
02-20-2006, 01:10 PM
They did Austin/Rock at X-Seven in 5 weeks
But to play Devil's Advocate, that was before the brand extension so they had 10 shows for buildup as opposed to 5
Beat you to it Y3J.
Anyway to answer Fox, that feud was about both men wanting to be WWF(E) Champion. Both wanted to be the best, only one could be, and it was a fitting end to the Attitude Era.
McLegend
02-20-2006, 01:18 PM
I am an Ignorant ass, because I think Cena is beating HHH at WM.
If Bats didnt get injured it would have been Bats vs Orton but cena getting booed had nothing to do with his wm main event. If Cena didnt get booed they would have had him go over HHH at this years wm after a year long run. Cena would still go over HHH so that dosnt change much.
HHH/Cena should have been built up over at least a couple, if not three, months. Instead, because Cena was getting such horrible reactions, they hot-shotted the title to Edge and played out that storyline, which only finished this past Thursday on RAW. There has been absolutely no build-up for HHH/Cena, and there won't be until at least another 2 weeks, because the #1 Contender tournament isn't over yet! Like someone else said, the split brands means they have half as much time as in previous years to build up for Mania, and it really seems to be a big problem.
At WM 20, the first WM after the brand split, it was Benoit/HHH/HBK, which had been built up since the night afte Royal Rumble. That's how you build a main event match.
At WM 21, Batista/HHH was also very strongly built up, as the dissention within Evolution began all the way back at New Year's Revolution, leading through the Royal Rumble and into Mania.
redoneja
02-20-2006, 03:34 PM
At WM 20, the first WM after the brand split, it was Benoit/HHH/HBK, which had been built up since the night afte Royal Rumble. That's how you build a main event match.
WM 19 was actually the fist after the brand split.
master
02-20-2006, 03:35 PM
that's not cool man, seriously
thats not funny 1 bit
darkpower
02-20-2006, 05:50 PM
While long term WM plans, I think, were in the works, remember that Mania isn't the absolute ONLY PPV that the WWE has. They ALSO have to sell it's OTHER PPV's on the way to WM. Than may account for at last some of the answer.
The storylines are there now, I think. They may act on them now. The Triple Threat WHC match is pretty must a lock in now, as the WWE is REALLY getting flack for their treatment in this whole Orton/Rey thing (and I do like Rey despite all the critisism, so I'm hoping he's still in the running). Remember, too, that they have extended time between NWO and WM (about 5 weeks instead of the usual 4) to let the floodgates open.
master
02-20-2006, 06:17 PM
to hell
Deceit
02-21-2006, 02:57 AM
If they do indeed put the belt on Orton, I hope Angle still stays in the title picture with him and 'tista (when he comes back). Though, I'd be perfectly fine with an Angle/Lashley fued :)
Mr. Nerfect
02-21-2006, 04:21 AM
I really believe Angle should retain the title at WrestleMania, even holding it until Batista comes back. Randy Orton should get enough of a rub headlining WrestleMania. There is no urgency in giving Orton his second World Title reign.
Looks like we'll get a Money in the Bank Match at WrestleMania. I hope they don't make it a ladder match, as I still want to see my TLC Match fantastisies come true. A TLC Match on the card might make me buy Mania.
Carlito, Rob Van Dam, Shelton Benjamin, Chavo Guerrero, Ric Flair & Chris Masters would be my picks for the match (provided there are no ladders). Give the win to either RVD or Shelton Benjamin.
Skippord
02-21-2006, 04:39 AM
Give the win to RVD and have him challenge at Survivor Series after the champion goes through the Survivor Series match on RVD's team.My scenario goes a little something like this;RVD and Face Champion are on the same team RVD is eliminated first after taking a move that wouldnt usually beat him and after that the champ outlasts everyone else and is the sole survivor and after the match gets a beatdown from the entire other team and is left lying when "Walk"(RVD changes his music to get more of an ECW feel) hits and RVD Comes out and cleans house he then gets on the mic and says he is using his MITB and hits the Five Star on the champion and pins them for the win and the title.
Dave Youell
02-21-2006, 09:59 AM
Last year's Wrestlemania I was into, but not this years. This years is lackluster. Though nothing compares to the Wrestlemania's of the Attitude Era...man those were the best.
Mania 16 was horrible and makes my worst 3 list.
Others in the list are Mania 9 and of course the crapfest that was Mania 13 with exception of Bret/Austin
Jaded-Dragon
02-22-2006, 02:09 AM
Well, you have to look at the logistics of things.
Shelton vs Flair is building
Cena vs Trips is going to start building
Mickie vs Trish has been building
Benoit vs Booker has been building
Rey vs Orton/Angle has been building
HBK vs McMahon has been building
And Mick vs Edge is starting to roll
The tag belts don't mean shit anymore, so some match will be thrown together in the last couple of weeks. The cruiser title also means shit now-a-days. And let's not forget the MITB, and probably one or two other matches that no one realy cares about, like Kane vs Masters and the anual Undertaker squash fest.
Of course they may just put Masters and Kane in the MITB and kill two birds with one stone. But I digress.
I think they are decently hyping up most of the matches. The problem is that there's not too many matches that I'm excited for. I'm curious to see where the Rey/Orton thing goes as we head into WM, and I'm curious to see what they do with RVD. As much as I love Benoit and Booker, we just saw a best of 7 between them, plus another match at NWO. WM should of been the place that Benoit won the title. Of course, as someone already said, Benoit should be in Main event status anyway.
I don't know... WM just doesn't feel that grand anymore. It's just another PPV that cost a little more to watch.
Sadistic
02-22-2006, 09:22 AM
I hope the boos return for Cena.
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