Shock&Awe slams wwe and Wrestlemania

[KillerWolf]

well frankly the biggest negative is the state of RAW. it is truely unwatchable.

Kane & Big Show - it really sucks that one of my favorite characters, Kane, has become so pathetic, SO IMPOTENT, that i just dont give a shit anymore. his matches are terrible. his promos are non-existent. and he is playing junior partner in the pointless tag team with Big Show. the tag team titles are a waste of time for Kane and the Big Show, as well as for Carlito and Masters.

Shawn Michaels / McMahons- i hate him more than Vince hates him. he needs to get an edge. nobody cares about Mr. A-O.K. fuckin... inner peace, gave his life over to Jesus. it seems like he has no reason to be wrestling. and the sight of Shane McMahons face just irritates the hell right outta me.

Edge / Foley - Edge had a good buzz going for a while. i liked his angry at the fans - world keeps screwing him over gimmick. he was doing good matches and good promos. then along came Lita, and it was downhill from there. he wins the world title, fulfills his lifelong dream and all he wants to do is fuck Lita on live television. The only problem i have with Foley is that he is not going to be around after the match or much leading up to it for that matter.

Cena / HHH - i hate John Cena so much i cant tell ya how bad i brutalize him just for the fuck of it when i play SDVR2006. but ya know something... i hope he wins at wrestlemania. why? because i enjoy seeing him get booed. and i think that i will enjoy fan reaction to him retaining the title more than i will enjoy another HHH title reign.

Smackdown is much more watchable than RAW. more of the things i like and less of the things i hate. Smackdown is actually kinda reminiscent of earlier and better times in wrestling, whereas RAW really seems to represent the new A.D.D. face of wrestling.

Booker T and Sharmell, and even the Boogyman are making for pretty good comic relief latley.

Finlay / Lashley - what a great feud this is turning out to be. i like both of these guys. i think Finlay is really bringing out the best in Lashley. I want to see Lashley excel, but i would rather see Finlay in the MITB match. i just would rather see that scrappy sonovobitch in a six man match than see the lone monster angle in that match.

Undertaker / Mark Henry - attention undertaker...and wwe: you dumb sons of bitches! undertaker, you, and your booking, have just blown your chance to be relevant again. you have blown your chance to engratiate yourself with real wrestling fans. you had two very good matches with Kurt Angle. you actually seemed to not be just going thry the motions for the first time in years. and then the second match ended exactly how we all predicted it would. and then you challenged Mark Henry (which we're not overly excited about), not in person but with the stupid video segment crap. we all hate that. we do not believe that you have powers! Mark Henry, on the other hand, is 'taker Wrestlemania cannon fodder. we all know that.

Chris Benoit / JBL - Benoit continues to consistantly perform good matches. JBL continues to do pretty good promos. personally though, i think that both of these men are above competing for the US Title. that should be guys like Lashley and Hardy just to name two.

Cruiserweights - i just want to say that wwe did a fine job of taking all the heat off of a great new character, Kid Cash, by bringing in Shane Helmes and making him the only heel cruiserweigh. Good job, guys.

WWE Title - a triple threat match? at wrestlemania? that sucks. and misterio aint credible. btw, Angle is great, but i dont see why he cant be a face, but still be goofy. or contraversial. or something besides misterio style babyface.

and one last thing. they gotta stop with these women taking their clothes off. the womens' scene is in shambles. not that i dont like women, but this shit is just so gratuitous that it's just...well, kind of insulting.

[Skippord]

And as we all know Wrestlemania is MAKE IT OR BREAK IT FOR WWE

[Anybody Thrilla]

What's your point? You still watch.

[Dorkchop]

Right now Helms is amazing on Smackdown with the CW belt. Kash completely bored me (Which is rare because it takes A LOT for me to be completely bored watching a wrestler).

[D Mac]

LOL at the different fonts for each brand.

[KillerWolf]

Right now Helms is amazing on Smackdown with the CW belt. Kash completely bored me (Which is rare because it takes A LOT for me to be completely bored watching a wrestler).

i'm not saying that Helmes is bad, but Kash was great, and now he, and the rest of the cruiserweights do not have their own identity. it's all of them vs. Helmes.

[KillerWolf]

LOL at the different fonts for each brand.

cool, huh?

[KillerWolf]

What's your point? You still watch.

well, i sort of watch. i fast forward thru a lot of it e.g. most of RAW.

[tucsonspeed6]

Wow. A critical view of the WWE. Haven't seen one of those before.

Without reading a word from your first post, it probably said the following: The Wrestlemania card looks like crap; You hate John Cena; They're screwing Matt Hardy over; TNA is SOOO much better; Smackdown is cartoony; and Raw has 3 too many McMahons right now.

Was I close?

[The Mackem]

Wow. A critical view of the WWE. Haven't seen one of those before.

Without reading a word from your first post, it probably said the following: The Wrestlemania card looks like crap, You hate John Cena, They're screwing Matt Hardy over, TNA is SOOO much better, Smackdown is cartoony, and Raw has 3 too many McMahons right now.

Was I close?

Things started to go wrong for you after the first captial letter following a comma.

[Kane Knight]

Right now Helms is amazing on Smackdown with the CW belt. Kash completely bored me (Which is rare because it takes A LOT for me to be completely bored watching a wrestler).

Yeah, Helms beats Kash hands down.

And having the CWs v Helms is awesome, regardless.

[Kane Knight]

Wow. A critical view of the WWE. Haven't seen one of those before.

Without reading a word from your first post, it probably said the following: The Wrestlemania card looks like crap, You hate John Cena, They're screwing Matt Hardy over, TNA is SOOO much better, Smackdown is cartoony, and Raw has 3 too many McMahons right now.

Was I close?

You were dead on at the beginning, but I think you're batting under .500 overall.

[Dorkchop]

Yeah, Helms beats Kash hands down.

And having the CWs v Helms is awesome, regardless.

I loved when they all ganged up on him the first time. It was pretty sweet and something like that hasn't been done for a while.

[Vermaat]

1. Kane and Big Show is not a pointless tag team. WWE needs tag teams and these guys are great together. There isn't much for them to do right now so the WWE did a good job by putting them together and having them win the tag titles.

2. You dislike Shane because of his face? Um, whats wrong, jealous? Shane is a good entertainer.

Shawn Michaels didn't loose a step by going religious, he is as good as ever and doing very well for his age imo. The storyline with him and Vince is awesome but would have been better of marty janety didn't get fired from earlier

3. Edge got screwed up when he won the world title without being ready for it. There was no build up and he is obviously not world level yet and compared with Cena we all saw that he wasn't up there. WWE made him go up before he was ready and that hurt him. I think Lita is a good heel manager.

4. So you hate Cena for no reason? But I will agree, he needs to be champ at mania because if he loses WWE will ruin their future.

5. Lashley and Finlay are a good feud but lashley needs to work on his mic skills and I'm not sure if finlay can hold his own in the ring, he is old but we will see.

6. Boogeyman is stupid, all he does is eat worms. What's the point? And he does only one move and only the little kids like him. Dumb gimmick.

7. JBL should not be in the main event, he was the worst champion in recent times and is so boring.

8. Shane Helms is doing a good job as the heel, Kid Kash was REALLY boring and it's a good thing Helms got the title.

9. Mysterio not credible? LOL!!!! That's why he is getting cheered by the fans and is the guy that all the fans are behind on Smackdown. He won the ROYAL RUMBLE you call that not credible? oh wait maybe he is not credible because he is short? :roll: Also he is the most innovative guy on Smackdown and knows how to put REAL emotion in his promo.

[McLegend]

JBL is easily the best heel in the WWE, and there is nothing boring about him.

He is a main eventer now and he deserves it.

[tucsonspeed6]

Things started to go wrong for you after the first captial letter following a comma.

Hey, let's tear apart his entire arguement because he put commas instead of semicolons! Yes, it's bad when a noob comes along and can't even spell his own name without going into a run on, but when did this place start getting run by syntax nazis?


You were dead on at the beginning, but I think you're batting under .500 overall.

Shoot. Since reading that I was off by so much I decided to actually skim through the original post. So here's what I have to say about it:

Firstly I apologize, shock&awe, for not reading your post first, but a thread that is titled with the phrase, "slams wwe and Wrestlemania" just sounds like more smark rhetoric. It seems like Dave Meltzer should just write a book entitled "Why you should hate the WWE" so instead of repeating everything he and Bryan Alvaraz have to say bashing the WWE, smarks can just say, "I'm mad. Please read WYSHWWE page 75, 3rd subheading, paragraph 5 to see why."

But when I read your post, I was suprised to see that you actually liked some stuff. I agree with a lot of what you said too. Even though I like HBK, I don't care for his current feud. Lashley vs. Finlay is the most entertaining feud right now. I wish all feuds were booked like this one. Unlike the McMahon/HBK feud, I actually KNOW why these two guys are fighting. As for McMahon, doesn't it have something to do with hating Bret Hart? Now Bret's being inducted in the HOF. :wtf:

SO :y: and sorry about not giving you a chance.

[KillerWolf]

1. Kane and Big Show is not a pointless tag team. WWE needs tag teams and these guys are great together. There isn't much for them to do right now so the WWE did a good job by putting them together and having them win the tag titles.

2. You dislike Shane because of his face? Um, whats wrong, jealous? Shane is a good entertainer.

Shawn Michaels didn't loose a step by going religious, he is as good as ever and doing very well for his age imo. The storyline with him and Vince is awesome but would have been better of marty janety didn't get fired from earlier

3. Edge got screwed up when he won the world title without being ready for it. There was no build up and he is obviously not world level yet and compared with Cena we all saw that he wasn't up there. WWE made him go up before he was ready and that hurt him. I think Lita is a good heel manager.

4. So you hate Cena for no reason? But I will agree, he needs to be champ at mania because if he loses WWE will ruin their future.

5. Lashley and Finlay are a good feud but lashley needs to work on his mic skills and I'm not sure if finlay can hold his own in the ring, he is old but we will see.

6. Boogeyman is stupid, all he does is eat worms. What's the point? And he does only one move and only the little kids like him. Dumb gimmick.

7. JBL should not be in the main event, he was the worst champion in recent times and is so boring.

8. Shane Helms is doing a good job as the heel, Kid Kash was REALLY boring and it's a good thing Helms got the title.

9. Mysterio not credible? LOL!!!! That's why he is getting cheered by the fans and is the guy that all the fans are behind on Smackdown. He won the ROYAL RUMBLE you call that not credible? oh wait maybe he is not credible because he is short? :roll: Also he is the most innovative guy on Smackdown and knows how to put REAL emotion in his promo.

OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!! NOT YOU AGAIN!!






btw, are you John Cena?

[KillerWolf]

Yeah, Helms beats Kash hands down.

And having the CWs v Helms is awesome, regardless.

well, i guess we're just gonna have to disagree, cause i thought that Kash was amazing. Plus, he kinda reminded me, in a way, of Owen Hart.

[The Optimist]

I also really like Kid Kash, and although you will proably get ripped apart for it I can see the Owen Hart comparison. I laughed out loud at your comment to Vermaat by the way.

[Kane Knight]

1. Kane and Big Show is not a pointless tag team. WWE needs tag teams and these guys are great together. There isn't much for them to do right now so the WWE did a good job by putting them together and having them win the tag titles.

2. You dislike Shane because of his face? Um, whats wrong, jealous? Shane is a good entertainer.

Shawn Michaels didn't loose a step by going religious, he is as good as ever and doing very well for his age imo. The storyline with him and Vince is awesome but would have been better of marty janety didn't get fired from earlier

3. Edge got screwed up when he won the world title without being ready for it. There was no build up and he is obviously not world level yet and compared with Cena we all saw that he wasn't up there. WWE made him go up before he was ready and that hurt him. I think Lita is a good heel manager.

4. So you hate Cena for no reason? But I will agree, he needs to be champ at mania because if he loses WWE will ruin their future.

5. Lashley and Finlay are a good feud but lashley needs to work on his mic skills and I'm not sure if finlay can hold his own in the ring, he is old but we will see.

6. Boogeyman is stupid, all he does is eat worms. What's the point? And he does only one move and only the little kids like him. Dumb gimmick.

7. JBL should not be in the main event, he was the worst champion in recent times and is so boring.

8. Shane Helms is doing a good job as the heel, Kid Kash was REALLY boring and it's a good thing Helms got the title.

9. Mysterio not credible? LOL!!!! That's why he is getting cheered by the fans and is the guy that all the fans are behind on Smackdown. He won the ROYAL RUMBLE you call that not credible? oh wait maybe he is not credible because he is short? :roll: Also he is the most innovative guy on Smackdown and knows how to put REAL emotion in his promo.

1. Since they're not building up the TT division using them, it is a pointless tag team. In order for your argument to work, they'd need to bring in something...Like real tag teams.

2. Shane looks half-retarded. What's to be Jealous of? The guy has an occasional match where he jumps off something high and that's about it. He makes good stars look bad, that's not a good entertainer.

Michaels' character has suffered since he found God. His in-ring ability hasn't changed, but the character itself certainly has.

3. No buildup? He'd had that MitB title for nearly a year! The only thing that was wrong is that nobody really cared. Edge was the major problem here.

4. He didn't get into why he hates Cena, doesn't mean he hates him for no reason.

5. Lashley shouldn't be on the mic. He doesn't need to be. Let him destroy things. Not everyone needs to be verbose.

6. Coming from a Cena mark...:rofl:

7. Your mom is a Jew.

Just kidding, I have no comeback for the allegations of worst champion in recent history. Mostly because, unlike Cena, JBL could get the desired reaction (People booed him).

8. No comment, I happen to agree.

9. Getting cheered does not make you credible. Credibility is what people will believe, not who they will pop for. Val Veins and Scotty get popped, doesn't mean they're credible champion material.

[KillerWolf]

1. Since they're not building up the TT division using them, it is a pointless tag team. In order for your argument to work, they'd need to bring in something...Like real tag teams.

2. Shane looks half-retarded. What's to be Jealous of? The guy has an occasional match where he jumps off something high and that's about it. He makes good stars look bad, that's not a good entertainer.

Michaels' character has suffered since he found God. His in-ring ability hasn't changed, but the character itself certainly has.

3. No buildup? He'd had that MitB title for nearly a year! The only thing that was wrong is that nobody really cared. Edge was the major problem here.

4. He didn't get into why he hates Cena, doesn't mean he hates him for no reason.

5. Lashley shouldn't be on the mic. He doesn't need to be. Let him destroy things. Not everyone needs to be verbose.

6. Coming from a Cena mark...:rofl:

7. Your mom is a Jew.

Just kidding, I have no comeback for the allegations of worst champion in recent history. Mostly because, unlike Cena, JBL could get the desired reaction (People booed him).

8. No comment, I happen to agree.

9. Getting cheered does not make you credible. Credibility is what people will believe, not who they will pop for. Val Veins and Scotty get popped, doesn't mean they're credible champion material.

thanks, KK. but where do you people find the energy to try and reason with this retard? this guy even makes Goldbird seem bright.

[Kane Knight]

Put it this way: For the last 2-3 weeks, all I've had time to do is fill out applications, send in and work on my resumé, and sit around waiting for callbacks. Aside from the two Aiki Jujutsu classes I take a week, I've had no recreational time for anything that takes me too far from home.

Though, to be honest, my last job lef me tired enough all I had the energy for was ripping retarded people a new one.