View Full Version : Any acual good heels left?
Ruien
03-15-2006, 09:03 PM
Ok, I was sitting in class today and I was thinking. What heel makes you boo because he is that good of a heel? I can't remember booing because the person was good at his character.
HHH comes close at times, but never would get me to boo if I was at the arena. Kurt Angle could never make me boo. Randy Orton dosn't seem to do it, to me it is just like 2 regular guys in a wrestling match now a days.
Sorry for typos that are probably in here, I am kind of in a rush :D
Edit:
I know Kurt is a Face now, was just a example that I can't take him serious as a heel.
Murdoch. I just fucking HATE him, in a good way.
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 09:10 PM
HHH is good when he tries.
Orton was good, but they killed the character.
Simon Dean gets a good reaction from me but I haven't seen him in a while.
JBL's still gold.
Cena is an awesome heel, gets booed alot and poeple love to do it.
Edit: I can write an edit note but not check my spelling.
McLegend
03-15-2006, 09:11 PM
JBL and Edge
Big Vic
03-15-2006, 09:16 PM
JBL....thats it
I also like how they are having mark henry not be afriad of the undertaker.
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Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 09:18 PM
Cena is an awesome heel, gets booed alot and poeple love to do it.
Edit: I can write an edit note but not check my spelling.
:rofl:
Skippord
03-15-2006, 09:27 PM
Carlito
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 09:30 PM
How did I forget Carrrrrlito.
Also, I spit in the face of people who don't think finlay is a fighting Irish Bastard.
Shane o' Mac is doing an awesome job at the moment.
Batsu
03-15-2006, 10:17 PM
JBL.
Carlito (well, mostly he makes you laugh, then he does that Reigns Neckbreaker on Victoria, and you remember -- oh yeah, he's a HEEL)
Orton (before they effed him up)
so yeah... I'm thinking, JBL really goes the extra mile to get those boos. Though, his "WRESTLING......GOD" thing is funny enough.
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 10:17 PM
Kennedy's a good heel too, if you don't mind the fact that he's out with an injury.
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 10:21 PM
Though I always wanna cheer along with "...Kennedy."
Kennedy's a good heel too, if you don't mind the fact that he's out with an injury.
I don't know, what exactly is he playing right now? Heel or tweener? It's not face and not exactly heel in my opinion...
He's like Carlito. You wanna laugh at their antics but boo out of respect. They're more like childish heels.
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 10:27 PM
I don't know, what exactly is he playing right now? Heel or tweener? It's not face and not exactly heel in my opinion...
I think he's playing a cripple.
:shifty:
I think he's supposed to be a heel right now. The problem is, WWE forgot one important thing...
You give the fans something to chant along to, instant face reaction (Even if they boo you 12 seconds later)
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 10:28 PM
He's like Carlito. You wanna laugh at their antics but boo out of respect. They're more like childish heels.
He's very much like Carlito. Both are so bad they
re good. But that's pretty close to the definition of a "tweener."
Dorkchop
03-15-2006, 10:32 PM
Kennedy's a good heel too, if you don't mind the fact that he's out with an injury.
Right before his injury I saw him becoming a face eventually. Maybe not intentionally though. He played a good heel, but was staring to grow on people as soon as he got injured. I know we were all starting to like him... I don't know how the non internet fans were liking him.
Right before his injury I saw him becoming a face eventually. Maybe not intentionally though. He played a good heel, but was staring to grow on people as soon as he got injured. I know we were all starting to like him... I don't know how the non internet fans were liking him.
He was starting to get small-ish face pops around his injury.
It was those bad apples I tells ya!
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 10:36 PM
He was starting to get small-ish face pops around his injury.
It was those bad apples I tells ya!
They were editing his crowd reactions too, trying to pull a Christian on him.
Again, a lot of the heel characters end up with people cheering them because <s>they're the only GOOD characters</s> of some bad apples.
Either these are references to Carlito, or the Witch from Snow White.
Skippord
03-15-2006, 10:38 PM
NOTE Skippord belives Chris Sabin should turn heel in TNA
He should turn his heels and make his way to WWE.
Skippord
03-15-2006, 10:45 PM
If they were to push him then I would be all for it
If they were to push him then I would be all for it
Triple H: Yeah, PUSH HIM TO THE MAT! WHO'S WITH ME! *Raises hand* C'MON SKIPPORD! DON'T LEAVE ME HANGIN'!
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 10:50 PM
NOTE Skippord belives Chris Sabin should turn heel in TNA
How would we tell the difference? TNA fans don't know how to distinguish. Hell, if I don't see Brown with Jarrett, I forget he's a heel.
How would we tell the difference? TNA fans don't know how to distinguish. Hell, if I don't see Brown with Jarrett, I forget he's a heel.
Who, Brown or Jarrett?
:shifty:
Kane Knight
03-15-2006, 11:23 PM
Bobby Roode
Innovator
03-15-2006, 11:29 PM
Adam Pearce, he has an old school feel to him
Jimmy Rave, if you watch ROH enough said. If not, instead of streamers for Jimmy...they throw toilet paper
In the E, Finlay I guess. And Cena, that guy knows how to get the people against him.
Edge is a good heel; especially when he had the belt.
St. Jimmy
03-16-2006, 01:23 AM
Masters is a great heel because he dosn't have to do ANYTHING for you to hate him besides have an intro.
Trips is trips, he can make anyone a face if he wants.
Orton, before the last HIAC with Taker =/
Lita... what? you tell me you don't cringe when she talks. true heel material.
Favre4Ever
03-16-2006, 02:03 AM
Orton has been tearing it up as a heel, minus the whole "Eddies in Hell" thing.
Edge is doing well I think.
JBL also, the guy everyone loves to hate.
Kane Knight
03-16-2006, 08:04 AM
Masters is a great heel because he dosn't have to do ANYTHING for you to hate him besides have an intro.
Lita... what? you tell me you don't cringe when she talks. true heel material.
It's not a heel if you can't get heat/make people change the channel.
Morgan
03-16-2006, 09:26 AM
Vince is great as the evil boss. Though I really could do without seeing a sixty year old man's arse cheeks at 4 in the morning.
Christ, never thought I'd have to say that again.
Kane Knight
03-16-2006, 10:07 AM
Again?
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tucsonspeed6
03-16-2006, 12:47 PM
1: Heels become faces become heels become faces become tweeners become faces... and all of that happens in just a year. When half the roster turns over the course of a PPV (Invasion) you watch the next night and have no idea who to boo. You almost need a score card for some of these guys. Big Show's a perfect example.
2: I'm burnt out on using the ropes for leverage. I get the feeling that everyone else is too. After a certain point of seeing every match finish with a cheat or interference in favor of the heel or a botched cheat/ interference in favor of the face, you'd rather just not watch at all any more
3: Faces win too much. Keep score of the finish of Raw and Smackdown for a while. The number of times a face wins a main event match heavily outweighs the number of times a heel wins (they never win cleanly if they do...) The face is supposed to be the underdog. Why would I ever be interested in a PPV match between Kurt Angle vs. John Cena if Angle gnashes his teeth and says, "I just can't seem to beat that Cena guy!" Same goes for Edge. Everybody remembers the bulley at school. If the bulley constantly got what was coming to him he wouldn't be a threat anymore, and you really wouldn't care if he got in trouble anymore.
4: Championships... Let's take a count here:
WWE title -- Cena (face) Last held by Edge for 2 weeks
World title -- Angle (face) last held by Batista (face) for almost a year
Intercontinental -- Shelton (heel? tweener? really weak ass heel?)
US -- Benoit (face) last held by Booker T who never really defended it.
Women's -- Trish (face) last held by who cares...
Cruiser -- Helms, but it changes once every other week
World tag titles -- Show and Kane (faces?) last defended.......
WWE tag titles -- MNM
So the only title that's acutally held by strong heels right now is the WWE tag titles. How can a heel be credible if they never get a championship run?
Kane Knight
03-16-2006, 02:59 PM
WWE thinks that giving us candy (The faces dominating) will turn us on to the product again.
I liked Batista as a dominant champion, and if Cena had stayed away from becoming a real face, I wouldn't have minded either. Shelton's a really weak heel, and I can't buy this whole "mama's boy" angle. He seems more like an oblivious kid most of the time.
The "ropes for leverage" bit is annoying, but they really don't have much diversity in the heels either. They need more types of heels to open up the options.
the lsat heel who really got to me was JBL. I would watch every ppv just to see him loose the damn belt
Skippord
03-16-2006, 03:19 PM
How would we tell the difference? TNA fans don't know how to distinguish. Hell, if I don't see Brown with Jarrett, I forget he's a heel.
I think if they gave him enough mic time to put himself over as the future of the industry again he would get some great heat
LIC098
03-16-2006, 04:06 PM
:y:
HBK BACK IN HIS DX DAYS WAS A GREAT HEEL ,MAYBE THIS FEUD WITH THE MACS IS ALL FAKE & HE WILL TURN HEEL BY SCREWING THE HITMAN 1 MORE TIME & ALSO MAYBE THIS WILL HELP EUGENE BY TURNING HIM HEEL BY BEATING UP ON A DIVA WHO TURNS HIM DOWN OR A WRESTLER [A TOP FACE ] WHO WONT BE HIS FRIEND
What's he going to do? Start a feud with Stone Cold at the HOF ceremony and steal the spotlight?
tucsonspeed6
03-16-2006, 04:24 PM
HBK BACK IN HIS DX DAYS WAS A GREAT HEEL ,MAYBE THIS FEUD WITH THE MACS IS ALL FAKE & HE WILL TURN HEEL BY SCREWING THE HITMAN 1 MORE TIME & ALSO MAYBE THIS WILL HELP EUGENE BY TURNING HIM HEEL BY BEATING UP ON A DIVA WHO TURNS HIM DOWN OR A WRESTLER [A TOP FACE ] WHO WONT BE HIS FRIEND
Firstly, just to get this out of the way, hit the CAPS button. When I read your post, it's narrated in my head with Ultimate Warrior's voice and it scared me a little.
Secondly, I don't see Eugene doing anything anymore. He's become the Hurricane or Scotty 2 hotty. He'll never get a push again, and he'll job to everyone who will. If he did, I sure as hell wouldn't want him to get heat by beating a woman. Using a dead man's name for heat's bad enough, but having a lower-midcarder beat down a woman for some heel heat? That's pretty damn low.
Innovator
03-16-2006, 05:10 PM
HBK BACK IN HIS DX DAYS WAS A GREAT HEEL ,MAYBE THIS FEUD WITH THE MACS IS ALL FAKE & HE WILL TURN HEEL BY SCREWING THE HITMAN 1 MORE TIME & ALSO MAYBE THIS WILL HELP EUGENE BY TURNING HIM HEEL BY BEATING UP ON A DIVA WHO TURNS HIM DOWN OR A WRESTLER [A TOP FACE ] WHO WONT BE HIS FRIENDTHE CAPS BUTTON .... IS....YOUR....FRIIIIIIEEEENNNNND
John la Rock
03-16-2006, 05:36 PM
JBL and Edge are the company's 2 best heels right now. Kurt Angle should still be heel!
Vermaat
03-16-2006, 05:39 PM
There are a lot of good heels in the WWE. What we need is faces. Here are a few, but there are way too many.
1. HHH. This guy is the best heel on the roster. I respect him and his work in the business, but I will boo him as a heel.
2. JBL - This guy knows how to get a reaction out of the fans. oozes natural heel.
3. Gene Snitsky - Not the best wrestler but a brilliant heel.
4. Masters - You just can't stand this guy (in a good way)
5. Animal - This is a recent one, but turn on Matt Hardy really underscores that he is best as heel.
6. Melina - Not as much MNM but Melina. She just players her role of an evil ***** well.
...I can go on, but there is really no defecit in great heels in the wwe. It's great faces that we are lacking.
Skippord
03-16-2006, 05:44 PM
3. Gene Snitsky - Not the best wrestler but a brilliant heel.
What?
HBK BACK IN HIS DX DAYS WAS A GREAT HEEL ,MAYBE THIS FEUD WITH THE MACS IS ALL FAKE & HE WILL TURN HEEL BY SCREWING THE HITMAN 1 MORE TIME & ALSO MAYBE THIS WILL HELP EUGENE BY TURNING HIM HEEL BY BEATING UP ON A DIVA WHO TURNS HIM DOWN OR A WRESTLER [A TOP FACE ] WHO WONT BE HIS FRIEND
this guy knows what's up :y:
Who doesn't love baby punters?
Everyone knows it's Snitsky!
Snitsky: THAT'S NOT MY FAULT!
Kane Knight
03-16-2006, 06:23 PM
I think if they gave him enough mic time to put himself over as the future of the industry again he would get some great heat
I honestly can't see him getting real heel heat.
Trips & JBL are the best heels in WWE
the thing about Trips is he can make you boo the shit out of him and then in the next breath people cheer his ass....he's the man plain and simple
JBL is an old school heel but i still love the guy
now you want a great heel
JEFF JARRETT
find me someone in TNA who gets more boo's
Bad Company
03-16-2006, 06:33 PM
Scott Steiner is a monster heel.
No, Scott Steiner is shite.
Bad Company
03-16-2006, 07:17 PM
You're shite.
Scott Steiner's left arm could be a heel on it's own. It could feud with his right arm and then have a leg get into the mix later down the road once the feud is established.
Arnold HamNegger
03-16-2006, 07:21 PM
Masters is a great heel because he dosn't have to do ANYTHING for you to hate him besides have an intro.
Well, Masters isn't even good enough to get "heel" heat. Usually he just get's no reaction at all.
Jarrett is an awesome heel, because he get's even the "cheer happy" crowd at TNA to boo him.
WWE let a great heel go..and his name was Bischoff. Fans LOVED to hate that guy.
Hassan and Davairi were awesome heels. So good that I actually started to like them.
Skippord
03-16-2006, 08:20 PM
I honestly can't see him getting real heel heat.
I think he got heat when they were in Nashville
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