RVD, can offically inhale again....

[94 SVT Cobra]

http://www.prowrestling.com/news.php?id=17294/articles/news

I would have copy and pasted the story, but seeing RVDs pic randomly in the corner for this topic isnt somethig i could replicate like that website when you first read it...oh man....im still laughing.

Looks like Me and Rob will still be having those pre match "sessions"

[Mr. JL]

lol

[RP]

That will last all of about 2 weeks.

[Mr. JL]

In all seriousness, from the many different stories I've heard and read... I'd rather the wrestlers smoke marijuana 8 times a day over doing the other shit that is out there.

[94 SVT Cobra]

In all seriousness, from the many different stories I've heard and read... I'd rather the wrestlers smoke marijuana 8 times a day over doing the other shit that is out there.


Yea, on a random ass side note, smoking pot while taking pain killers usally knocks you the fuck out real quick. thus kinda leading to wrestlers being less likely to get addicted to the pain pills themselfs as the pot alone would do the job for there...recrational desires. No lie, i got freinds who were addicted to crack at points in there lifes, and they said the second they would smoke up after wanting more crack (so sad, it really was) it would bring there desire for more crack down. Hey, at least its not crack right?

[darkpower]

http://darkpower.00freehost.com/common/images/rvd_weed.jpg

[Corkscrewed]

LMAO

That's perfect picture placement right there.

[Chavo Classic]

I have no objection to wrestlers smoking weed. These guys travel almost 300 days a year and are in constant pain because of their profession. The effects of marijuana have a relaxing effect on their tired and aching muscles and will also have the psychological benefit of helping overcome the loneliness and sadness that comes with spending months away from your family.

Even God himself, Mick Foley endorses the use of pot on the road in his second autobiography. Although in hindsight, if Foley had been using pot for years it might explain the affection for his split Cactus/Mankind/Dude Love personalities.

[Kane Knight]

0 tolerance my ass.

[Xero]

I have no objection to wrestlers smoking weed. These guys travel almost 300 days a year and are in constant pain because of their profession. The effects of marijuana have a relaxing effect on their tired and aching muscles and will also have the psychological benefit of helping overcome the loneliness and sadness that comes with spending months away from your family.

Even God himself, Mick Foley endorses the use of pot on the road in his second autobiography. Although in hindsight, if Foley had been using pot for years it might explain the affection for his split Cactus/Mankind/Dude Love personalities.
Especially Dude Love, that fucking hippie...

[Kane Knight]

Foley Fact: When Foley originally created the Cactus Jack character, it said "Bong bong." However, in America, they were afraid it would infringe on Rob Van Dam's gimmick.

[Xero]

Foley Fact: When Foley originally created the Cactus Jack character, it said "Bong bong." However, in America, they were afraid it would infringe on <s>Rob Van Dam</s>The Undertaker's gimmick.

[Kane Knight]

What's brown and sounds like the Undertaker's theme?

DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

[Dorkchop]

0 tolerance my ass.

It's absolutely ridiculous. More like 87 tolerance. It's nice to see the WWE take this seriously.

I understand if some guys are tested positive for steroids the first time, you shouldn't severly punish them. The second time should result in some sort of suspension, maybe without pay.

Face it, no one is going to take this seriously if the company that's supposed to be testing them isn't.

[Dorkchop]

What's brown and sounds like the Undertaker's theme?

DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

What's huge on Flash Funk that sounds like Undertaker's theme?

DONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

[Xero]

What's white and black and red all over?

John Cena at a Ring of Honor event.

[Kane Knight]

It's absolutely ridiculous. More like 87 tolerance. It's nice to see the WWE take this seriously.

I understand if some guys are tested positive for steroids the first time, you shouldn't severly punish them. The second time should result in some sort of suspension, maybe without pay.

Face it, no one is going to take this seriously if the company that's supposed to be testing them isn't.

Yeah.

And just let me clear something up. I'm not objecting to pot use. I'm not objecting to steroid use. I think both are about as equaly harmful by themselves--Not very. You see, steroids were banned despite (Not because of) FDA studies. Marijuana was similarly banned. The deleterious effects mentioned were pushed by Congressmen, lobbyists, etc., not by legit medical practicioners. The dangers of pot as a gateway drug are about as legit as the argument against evolution.

However comma, Vince McMahon and his buddies have announced that, in the light of the death of one of their workers, they are instituting a Zero Tolerance drug screening deal, for safety's sake.

They then go and say, "Oh, but while we're thumping that drugs are bad" once more, we're not going to bother with pot, and we don't care if you test positive for the most pervasive ones."

[Arnold HamNegger]

However comma, Vince McMahon and his buddies have announced that, in the light of the death of one of their workers, they are instituting a Zero Tolerance drug screening deal, for safety's sake.

They then go and say, "Oh, but while we're thumping that drugs are bad" once more, we're not going to bother with pot, and we don't care if you test positive for the most pervasive ones."

Yeah, I don't understand going public with that. It's one thing if you just keep that sort of thing internal on the "hush hush" (or "hash hash"), but this just makes WWE look stupid.

"....AND if you need a little pick me up, we don't care if you do a couple fat rails in the morning. Hell, 8-balls are ok too!"

[Chavo Classic]

...the dangers of pot as a gateway drug are about as legit as the argument against evolution...


I wouldn't say so. The gateway theory of drug use has been proven correct in various sections and demographics of society. The wrestling community is no different. Do you think Eddie Guerrero turned round one day and said out of the blue "hey, let's buy some coke"?

I only hope that the guys are able to keep in mind that their jobs are dependent on staying clear of more dangerous drugs.

[94 SVT Cobra]

Yeah, I don't understand going public with that. It's one thing if you just keep that sort of thing internal on the "hush hush" (or "hash hash"), but this just makes WWE look stupid.

"....AND if you need a little pick me up, we don't care if you do a couple fat rails in the morning. Hell, 8-balls are ok too!"

"hey you knwo what, forget it coke to hard, so smoke crack. its just like coke, only not as much is purchasable at a time....and with windex"

[loopydate]

I wouldn't say so. The gateway theory of drug use has been proven correct in various sections and demographics of society. The wrestling community is no different. Do you think Eddie Guerrero turned round one day and said out of the blue "hey, let's buy some coke"?

No, it was probably more like one of the other workers saying "I have some coke. Wanna try?"

[Kane Knight]

I wouldn't say so. The gateway theory of drug use has been proven correct in various sections and demographics of society. The wrestling community is no different. Do you think Eddie Guerrero turned round one day and said out of the blue "hey, let's buy some coke"?

I only hope that the guys are able to keep in mind that their jobs are dependent on staying clear of more dangerous drugs.

Ignorance, Chavo.

The "Gateway drug" effect happens because people who are inclined to try drugs will be inclined to try drugs. Smoking pot doesn't actually make you more likely to try other drugs.

To accept this is true is to accept a mentally flawed approach to studies, the same kind which "disproves" evolution. It also requires that you blatantly ignore that this is a behavioural issue, one which actually transcends pot (into other drugs, into caffeine) and even goes beyond drugs in general into actual human behaviour.

IT's a silly little lie that they've passed off to the gullible public.

Please tell me I don't have to explain Santa to you as well.

[Kane Knight]

No, it was probably more like one of the other workers saying "I have some coke. Wanna try?"

Note in all his admittance to drug problems, he never mentioned pot TMK.

I think this is a pretty big hole in his theory.

But trying to convince him otherwise will be very much like trying to persuade Pat Robertson Evolution is real.

[Corkscrewed]

Yeah, I don't understand going public with that. It's one thing if you just keep that sort of thing internal on the "hush hush" (or "hash hash"), but this just makes WWE look stupid.

"....AND if you need a little pick me up, we don't care if you do a couple fat rails in the morning. Hell, 8-balls are ok too!"
It's not true!!!!!!!! I didn't see it published on the official web site, so this is just a RUMOR!!!!!!!!!! Vince cares about his employees and keeps them for potential. He wouldn't let them use drugs like that and get away with it!!! :foc:

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, I don't understand going public with that. It's one thing if you just keep that sort of thing internal on the "hush hush" (or "hash hash"), but this just makes WWE look stupid.

"....AND if you need a little pick me up, we don't care if you do a couple fat rails in the morning. Hell, 8-balls are ok too!"

Are you familliar with Bill Maher?

My signature used to contain oe of his posters, with one of those giant SUVs on it, American flags hanging off of it, and it read something like "putting a flag on your [car] is the least you can do--Wars aren't won on empty promises!"

The meaning behind this, of course, is that so many people who "support" the troops do literally and exactly the least they can.

That's what WWE does. The very least they can. So Eddie dies, and it all looks like it ties back to drug abuse. So they hear bad publicity coming (And it did, to an extent), and they say "What's the smallest effort we can make?"

The answer, quite simply, is to claim to take action and then sweep it under the rug. Hope that by the time the next wrestler drops, people will have forgotten.

And really, Vince already had to pretend he cared, act like he didn't run a company in such a way that he might as well have put the drugs in Eddie's hands (And those of his other employees) and that he was somehow surprised. So what's one more case of play-acting?

Vince was the pimp to Eddie's hooker. The only difference is, this was all a legal profession (With no real regulations or standards to protect them), so there's a public face that needs maintenance.

So Vince says they'll handle it internally, like Bush said he'd do on his fuck-ups, like other cororations try to do on theirs. IT's what people do. Smile and nod and say everything's gonna change when they have no intent to do any such thing.

[Arnold HamNegger]

No, I meant going public with allowing wrestlers to smoke weed. That's the part that makes them look stupid. I understand why they went public with the "Zero tolerance" policy, I should have clarified myself. Now they just look totally hypocritical.

And Corkscrewed, that was hilarious! :lol:

[Kane Knight]

They really didn't announce it though. I mean, unless they've put it on WWE.com or something.
We read the results of a meeting.

[Arnold HamNegger]

They really didn't announce it though. I mean, unless they've put it on WWE.com or something.
We read the results of a meeting.

If I were in charge of WWE public relations, there's NO WAY IN HELL (no pun intended) that I would allow notes of a meeting to be leaked to the media that involve allowing employees to smoke weed. Not after announcing a "Zero Tolerance" policy to the world. I mean, yeah...within the company you can make it known that you will be tolerant of pot smoking if that's what is going to happen, but I'd take every measure to keep that from the internet and other media sources. That just makes your company look foolish...hence, all the jokes in this thread.

[Kane Knight]

WWE doesn't know how to keep secrets. They're horribly ineffectual, and despite all their attempts have been unable to stop the internet from getting ahold of news and such.

Meanwhile, they're probably arrogant enough to think that nobody really cares, or that people won't believe it.

BAsically, what I'm saying is, WWE is stupid.

[Arnold HamNegger]

I could see this leading to another drug test for HBK on RAW.

Steph:" Come on Shawn, you know you want a brownie...my Dad said it's ok."

[Kane Knight]

"But what would Jesus think?"

[Lock Jaw]

The newest backstage rib will be getting a druggie's urine sample and switching it for one of the wrestlers. Bank on it.

[Xero]

The newest backstage rib will be getting a druggie's urine sample and switching it for one of the wrestlers. Bank on it.
*Eugene dials his phone*
Eugene: Hey Rick, I need to talk to Scott, you got his cell?

[Kane Knight]

The newest backstage rib will be getting a druggie's urine sample and switching it for one of the wrestlers. Bank on it.

It doesn't work that way, but that could be funny anyway...Even funnier, imagine someone swapping their urine, hoping to avoid testing positive, not realising they swapped with RVD.

[Xero]

It doesn't work that way, but that could be funny anyway...Even funnier, imagine someone swapping their urine, hoping to avoid testing positive, not realising they swapped with RVD.
Triple H: So how'd I do!? :naughty:
Doctor: Well, you've tested positive for every legal and illegal substance known to man, and some just discovered... On you. Marijuana, coke, speed, crack, PCP, LSD, windex.....

[Kane Knight]

And this one we can't identify...

[The One]

Though this one we do know, and it's what many African tribes use on their blow darts to take down elephants.

[Kane Knight]

And this one we know, but is only used by the aliens in Area 51...

[The One]

Oh and before I forget, how did you find so much Kryptonite...and more impressivly, how did you convert it into a drug?

[RVDmark]

I can see what your saying about their zero tollerance policy but they have to draw a line somewhere. I hate the way they have a zero tollerance DRUG policy but the term drug describes everything from Crack, heroin, cocaine through to aspirin, caffeine, taurine (red bull if you didn't know). So what if RVD or anyone else smokes weed. The way I see it if you want to leap about and break yourself week in week out you have to be stoned off your tits surely. It also surprises me that America which has a strong religous belief disapproves of weed. If God does exist and he created cannabis (Im using this because it doesn't need to be produced like cocaine which is a plant but it has to be processed) then its like saying God is wrong. Whether cannabis causes schitzophrenia or not its still much less dangerous than alcohol. To kill yourself with weed you would have to smoke somewhere around your own body weight of the stuff and you would pass out way before you got that far. Alcohol - your friendly neighbourhood drug - can kill you if you drink too much just once. At least you have to smoke weed for a while before it is likely to have damaging effects.

Never trust the one's in power (except Triple A):)

[Kane Knight]

I can see what your saying about their zero tollerance policy but they have to draw a line somewhere. I hate the way they have a zero tollerance DRUG policy but the term drug describes everything from Crack, heroin, cocaine through to aspirin, caffeine, taurine (red bull if you didn't know). So what if RVD or anyone else smokes weed. The way I see it if you want to leap about and break yourself week in week out you have to be stoned off your tits surely. It also surprises me that America which has a strong religous belief disapproves of weed. If God does exist and he created cannabis (Im using this because it doesn't need to be produced like cocaine which is a plant but it has to be processed) then its like saying God is wrong. Whether cannabis causes schitzophrenia or not its still much less dangerous than alcohol. To kill yourself with weed you would have to smoke somewhere around your own body weight of the stuff and you would pass out way before you got that far. Alcohol - your friendly neighbourhood drug - can kill you if you drink too much just once. At least you have to smoke weed for a while before it is likely to have damaging effects.

Never trust the one's in power (except Triple A):)

Duh. Of course you have to draw the line somewhere. Howabout with the illegal ones, for starters? Or maybe howabout the ones which have gotten wrestlers fired in the past? Or maybe even, since this was nothing more than a PR move, howabout barring the ones which are a perceived threat?

I mean, alcohol is legal, and they can't even do that 24 hours before a show. And you're saying that a banned substance should be where they draw the line? That's fucking retarded.

[94 SVT Cobra]

Mr Helmesly, come to think of it, there wasnt a single drop of ACTUAL urine in your sample, just a mixture of substances.

[Chavo Classic]

Ignorance, Chavo.

The "Gateway drug" effect happens because people who are inclined to try drugs will be inclined to try drugs. Smoking pot doesn't actually make you more likely to try other drugs.

To accept this is true is to accept a mentally flawed approach to studies, the same kind which "disproves" evolution. It also requires that you blatantly ignore that this is a behavioural issue, one which actually transcends pot (into other drugs, into caffeine) and even goes beyond drugs in general into actual human behaviour.

Since we're bringing the matter of behaviourism into this argument, the Gatewat theory makes perfect sense. Positive reinforcement from pleasant sensations brought about by trying lighter drugs will increase perceptions that drugs are good. Therefore, the individual is more inclined to try other, hardre drugs as their belief and attitude is that drugs produce positive sensations as indicated by their previous experiences. They will try to recreate the positive response experience earlier by imitating silimar actions. This is what Pavlov called operant conditioning.

You might be entitled to your beliefs, and that is what most unempirical science is all about anyway - contrasting perspectives and approaches. But do not call me ignorant as I have read, and at one point recreated, a number of well grounded psychological studies into this topic and found evidence, as well as my own collaborating results, to support the gateway theory.

[Kane Knight]

Since we're bringing the matter of behaviourism into this argument, the Gatewat theory makes perfect sense. Positive reinforcement from pleasant sensations brought about by trying lighter drugs will increase perceptions that drugs are good. Therefore, the individual is more inclined to try other, hardre drugs as their belief and attitude is that drugs produce positive sensations as indicated by their previous experiences. They will try to recreate the positive response experience earlier by imitating silimar actions. This is what Pavlov called operant conditioning.

You might be entitled to your beliefs, and that is what most unempirical science is all about anyway - contrasting perspectives and approaches. But do not call me ignorant as I have read, and at one point recreated, a number of well grounded psychological studies into this topic and found evidence, as well as my own collaborating results, to support the gateway theory.

Which brings me to today's word:

ignorance

You are ignorant. You are reading studies which blatantly ignore the context and try and treat the "gateway drug" argument as a viable, independent, phenomenon. You can read all the studies you want, but it's bullshit. Like the notion that a number of "studies" somehow legitimises Intelligent design, or "studies" proved you could not break the four minute mile, or "studies" showed negroes were inferior and incapable of complex duties.

Hell, you just justified it with an argument so generic as to make it a pointless statement in the first place. By your logic, ZOMFG! Caffeine and sex and jogging are gateway drugs! You can find evidence to corroborate any theory, like the flat earth, the notion that pot actually kills people, the deadly effects of saccarine, etc. You can find a LOT of them. on www.tinfoilhat.com

In fact, kids will try whatever drugs they can get first (Like tobacco) and marijuana is an excessively prevalent drug, establishing a social context like "hey, she was asking for it."

Problem is, they often times have flawed methodology. The predisposition is already there, and that is ignored, and that is called ignorance. Don't complain about being called ignorant, when you ignore crucial factors.

And that's the word.

[Arnold HamNegger]

The newest backstage rib will be getting a druggie's urine sample and switching it for one of the wrestlers. Bank on it.

Speaking of this and a little thing called "continuity", it's nice how WWE just totally forgot about the oh so important "results" from the HBK/piss segment.

[Xero]

Speaking of this and a little thing called "continuity", it's nice how WWE just totally forgot about the oh so important "results" from the HBK/piss segment.
I would just assume that the "doctor" didn't have enough time to get definitive results.

[Arnold HamNegger]

I would just assume that the "doctor" didn't have enough time to get definitive results.

Well, he dipped the litmus paper in and according to Vince it was only going to take a couple seconds. :roll: (Never heard of that before...but this is wrestling we're talking about....)

[Kane Knight]

I would just assume that the "doctor" didn't have enough time to get definitive results.

Didn't he claim it'd take like 15 minutes?

My guess is that Vince is so angry that he'd rather fuck with Shawn than fire him.

Or they forgot it. It's been more than five minu...

...What was I saying?

[Xero]

Well, he dipped the litmus paper in and according to Vince it was only going to take a couple seconds. :roll: (Never heard of that before...but this is wrestling we're talking about....)
I don't think you can just pee on a stick and know what drugs are in your system. It's not a pregnancy test...

[Arnold HamNegger]

I don't think you can just pee on a stick and know what drugs are in your system. It's not a pregnancy test...

Yeah, that's what made me crack up. Gotta love the "WWE Reality."

[RVDmark]

Kane Knight, I only used cannabis as an example and that is a legal drug when prescribed as a pain killer(In the UK anyway im not sure about the US). Given wrestlers could legitimately ask for pain killers I think if they allow ANY drugs they should be allowed cannabis It has pain killing effects whereas steroids are obviously for 'buffing up'. I could be wrong but wasn't the limit for alcohol 12 hours previous?



On a side note litmus paper can only detect acid/alkali and any test for drugs of that nature would need to be done with lab equipment or improvised lab equipment.

[Kane Knight]

I don't think you can just pee on a stick and know what drugs are in your system. It's not a pregnancy test...

It's only WWE, though.

Besides, I'm sure Vince knew exactly what to test for...

[Xero]

Kane Knight, I only used cannabis as an example and that is a legal drug when prescribed as a pain killer(In the UK anyway im not sure about the US). Given wrestlers could legitimately ask for pain killers I think if they allow ANY drugs they should be allowed cannabis It has pain killing effects whereas steroids are obviously for 'buffing up'. I could be wrong but wasn't the limit for alcohol 12 hours previous?
I don't know the laws 100%, but I don't think Marijuana is not legally sold as a pain killer in the US, only for eye problems, but I'm probably wrong (I know it's legal in only some states for some things). I believe doctors in the US can only perscribe it in pill form as well. Not that it has anything to do with the painkilling effect...

Besides, most if not all of the wrestlers who smoke it would (probably) not have it legally anyway.

As for steroids, there are steroids that would help people with injuries and the such (even ones used for "buffing up"), but those are exempt from the policy anyway (I believe)...

[RVDmark]

In Pill form!? I didn't think they'd bother well I've learned my new thing for the day.

Anyway does anybody know exactly what they do test for? And im talking about medical names not just steroids/illegal drugs.

[Kane Knight]

Kane Knight, I only used cannabis as an example and that is a legal drug when prescribed as a pain killer(In the UK anyway im not sure about the US). Given wrestlers could legitimately ask for pain killers I think if they allow ANY drugs they should be allowed cannabis It has pain killing effects whereas steroids are obviously for 'buffing up'. I could be wrong but wasn't the limit for alcohol 12 hours previous?



On a side note litmus paper can only detect acid/alkali and any test for drugs of that nature would need to be done with lab equipment or improvised lab equipment.

Try getting your facts straight first, then.

In the US, there is no such thing as medicinal marijuana. Even in the couple of states that have legalised such uses, it's still a federal crime.

This is a US-based company which operates primarily in the US with wrestlers who perform, reside in, and/or tour the US extensively. Saying "well, over here in the UK, it's legal" does not change the fact that marijuana is very illegal where it's pertinent to the corporation involved.

If ANY drugs should be barred, it's the illegal ones. Steroids and pot are both illegal (And unlike steroids, which are a controlled substance, Mary Jane is banned. That means that, technically, pot is more illegal).

Note I've already made a defense for steroids and marijuana. That, however, does not change the fact that they're illegal, and does not change the hypocrisy in WWE's policies here.

Fuck, I'm all for wrestlers juicing. The FDA has found nothing to substantiate the claims made regarding the danger of steroids. There are only two ways for stereoids to kill you, generally (That's not to say some deaths don't occur, but the same's true with fucking ASPIRIN): One, you abuse them. And it takes a lot to kill you this way, the dangers are overinflated. Two, you mix them with other drugs. Cocaine is a good example, and say...Wasn't Eddie on both? Steroids interact poorly with a lot of illegal drugs. Wrestlers aren't dropping specifically because of steroids, but because a lot of thema re also hooked on painkillers or abusing drugs.

And frankly, consenting adults who want to juice for non-competitive reasons (In other words, not for real sports, etc.)? I say let 'em, personally. Pot? I'm an advocate for consenting adults picking their own poisons. I'm funny like that.

But that doesn't change the fact that they're i-fucking-legal. Nor does it change the hypocrisy of the ZERO tolerance policy.

[Xero]

In Pill form!? I didn't think they'd bother well I've learned my new thing for the day.

Anyway does anybody know exactly what they do test for? And im talking about medical names not just steroids/illegal drugs.
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/143088616.shtml

That's the entire policy.

[Chavo Classic]

Which brings me to today's word:

ignorance

You are ignorant. You are reading studies which blatantly ignore the context and try and treat the "gateway drug" argument as a viable, independent, phenomenon. You can read all the studies you want, but it's bullshit. Like the notion that a number of "studies" somehow legitimises Intelligent design, or "studies" proved you could not break the four minute mile, or "studies" showed negroes were inferior and incapable of complex duties.

Hell, you just justified it with an argument so generic as to make it a pointless statement in the first place. By your logic, ZOMFG! Caffeine and sex and jogging are gateway drugs! You can find evidence to corroborate any theory, like the flat earth, the notion that pot actually kills people, the deadly effects of saccarine, etc. You can find a LOT of them. on www.tinfoilhat.com

In fact, kids will try whatever drugs they can get first (Like tobacco) and marijuana is an excessively prevalent drug, establishing a social context like "hey, she was asking for it."

Problem is, they often times have flawed methodology. The predisposition is already there, and that is ignored, and that is called ignorance. Don't complain about being called ignorant, when you ignore crucial factors.

And that's the word.


Oh right, so why dont we all allow Kane Knight to decide the future of psychology, and hell, why not science all together?

Yes, you have to take these studies into context and critical evaluate what is written. For example, who funded the study? There's no point reading about a study which focuses on the success of a new drug and then making your mind up that this drug is effective, only to find that the pharmaceutical company responsible for production of said drug provided the funding. Being aware and able to analyse what is presented critically and without bias is one of the first lessons all scientists learn.

So, yeh, lets do away with studies. What can we do instead? Why not just speculate on science? Lets not bother with quantative or even qualitative studies and just have a forum where everyone can put in their own two cents. Hopefully we'll all hit the same note eventually and progress from there. You see, without these "flawed" studies there would be scientific advances ever made again. And fair play, most of these studies eventually faulter and fall, but this is what progression is all about. No one is expected to belive Freudian psychology anymore, at least since the 1950s, but science builds on previous beliefs and establish more effective explanations.

So at the moment, contemporary work has suggested yes... the gateway theory can be applied as a explanation for deviant behaviour and drug use. Unless you want to expand on why you don't think this is the case, then by all means do. I'll be looking forward to future editions of your work as published in the American Journal of Psychology.