MLB 2006 Season Thread

[Joey Slugs]

Jim Fucking Thome. nuff said.

[Joey Slugs]

Brewers:eek:

5 HRs in one inning? ouch.

[D Mac]

The Royals won today! That's it. We're turning this thing around RIGHT NOW.




:shifty:

[YOUR Hero]

how long is Lee out for?

[YOUR Hero]

2-3 months...

[YOUR Hero]

An examination by Cubs doctors in Chicago Thursday determined that Lee has two broken bones in his right wrist. The Cubs' first baseman fractured the distal radial and distal ulna bones in a collision with the Dodgers' Rafael Furcal in Los Angeles Wednesday night. Lee is expected to be in a cast up to six weeks.

[Gertner]

So let get this straight, Red Sox where smacking the Jays yesterday but then made a bad decision leaving the starter in too long allowing Toronto to get back into the game and they lost in extra innings. Now granted the Sox are getting smacked today, but for the most part the majority of the games between the 2 teams have been pretty close (decided by 1 or 2 runs) As for the "world beaters" you talked about earlier, didn't the Blue Jays lose 2 outta 3 to Tampa Bay?

Also take a look at who you rocked, he isn't even a starting pitcher, Papelbon was suppose to take over incase of an injury in the rotation but he is too busy being the best closer in baseball and he didn't cost the Red Sox 50 millon dollars either :cool:

Oh yeah - I don't play for the Red Sox, so I dunno why you keep refering to me like I do.

Buttt just like everyone else, we'll see whats up at the end of the season.

the Jays have rocked fat ass wells, golden boy clement now a trillion times.

And B.J Ryan > Papelbon

yeah Stima but the Jays have at least beaten credible teams. Who have the sox beaten except for the jays once?

[YOUR Hero]

Man alive, doe Ortiz ever swing a lot at the 1st pitch. 2 run HR against Towers.

[Gertner]

friggen towers has been awful so far this year. can't get control of his command

[YOUR Hero]

he's not got enough zip on his fastball and he's not hitting the corners (yet) like he needs to, to be successful.

[Dragon]

Nice to see Johnson have such a good outing after that last one.

8 IP, 1 ER, 3 hits (all by Tejada).

Two nice starts in a row for the Yankees, Chacon and then Johnson today, hasn't happened often this year. Hopefully Moose continues to pitch well and does in his next start.

AL East is gonna be ridiculous this year.

[Dragon]

Have the Devil Rays next, so hopefully that series goes well. Jays and Sox are after that so it would be nice to have some momentum going into those series.

[YOUR Hero]

Last Johnson start looked like he had a dead arm. Sounds like if that was the case, he's over it.

[The Miz]

ESPN sucks. According to them, the only teams in baseball are:

St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs
Atlanta Braves
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
New York Mets
Barry Bonds

Boring. Why can't the game of the week ever be Rangers/Indians? Phillies/D'backs? Twins/Blue Jays?

[BCWWF]

Yeah, the Yankees one is kind of out there, they are 7-7

[CNM]

Tell me about it Miz. I rarely watch Sunday Night Baseball anymore because it's the same teams over and over again.

[ct2k]

Generally it means we get good games here in the UK, although i think it was back in 99 or 00, we got atleast a dozen stinking Orioles games because ESPN got it wrong:rant:

[The Miz]

Yeah, the Yankees one is kind of out there, they are 7-7

It's not even about that, it's that no matter how good or bad these teams are or who is on them, they are always going to be on TV. This year the Blue Jays, White Sox, A's, Brewers, and hell even the Rockies look to be some of the best teams in their respective divisions but that isn't going to get them any closer to getting more Sunday Night games (unless they happen to be playing the Braves, Yanks, BoSox, Cards, Mets, Cubs or Bonds's). And it shouldn't even always be about the best teams either, they should show Pirates/Reds every once in a while just so we can see every team. ESPN analysts complain about how guys like Todd Helton, Jason Bay, Mark Teixiera etc. are "underrated"; well maybe if you showed their team's games every once in a while insetad of Cardinals vs. Cubs every single week, more people would rate them higher.

[The Miz]

Damn Esteban Loaiza is terrible. Hitting 82 on the gun and probably isn't going to make his next start due to a combination of back spasms and sucking. What a waste of money that would be if Saarloos steps up in his spot and pitches like he did last year and Loaiza is left with nothing to contribute.

[Joey Slugs]

another sweeeeeeeeep!

[FakeLaser]

Yankees lead the AL in ERA and are first in MLB in runs scored. I'm thinking we'll do ok.

[The Miz]

I just read that once in 2000, Toronto put this deal on the table:

Toronto gets:
SP Pedro Astacio
RP Jose Jiminez

Colorado gets:
SP Roy Halladay
SP Chris Carpenter
OF Vernon Wells

...and Colorado turned it down, because the owner didn;t want to trade the popular Astacio

[The Miz]

1. Roy Halladay
2. Chris Carpenter
3. Jason Jennings
4. Jeff Francis
5. Aaron Cook

Would be the best rotation in the NL

[CNM]

Actually, the way I understood it, it was just for Vernon Wells. But yes, the Rockies owners are morons. They also turned down an Astacio for Alfonso Soriano trade that same summer.

[The Outlaw]

lol

[YOUR Hero]

I wish Toronto wouldn't have given up on Carpenter. Coming up he was the better prospect over Halladay. Carpenter's injuries slowed down his development big time but the Jays should have kept him.

[The Miz]

Hard to say what kind of success he would've had had he stayed in Toronto. Nowhere near the success in St. Louis, I can guarantee you that much.

[toxic rooster]

Actually, the way I understood it, it was just for Vernon Wells. But yes, the Rockies owners are morons. They also turned down an Astacio for Alfonso Soriano trade that same summer.


...wow. :$

[The Miz]

They also traded Chone Figgins for Kimera Bartee.

[YOUR Hero]

Hard to say what kind of success he would've had had he stayed in Toronto. Nowhere near the success in St. Louis, I can guarantee you that much.

Perhaps.

When he came up he was a harder thrower had great movement on his change up. Now that he's in St. Louis, I don't get to see him, but I wonder iof he is still throwing with the same type of zip.

[YOUR Hero]

Gotta nice start from Ervin Santana last night. This guy's looking promising.

[OssMan]

8-4-5 double play

[YOUR Hero]

Toronto cast off.

He had one hell of a slider. If he can hit his spots, get ahead and then go to that slider, he'll do well. IF IF IF...

[The Miz]

When are people (Peter Gammons) gonna stop sucking Jose Reyes' dick? Hes not that good at all

[The Miz]

MLBtv is awesome. I am watching every game at once!!!

[The Miz]

"He's not exactly a threat to steal, but the threat is there" - John Kruk

[YOUR Hero]

why did you delete your post about Gaudin?

[BCWWF]

Carpenter wasn't anything special until last season though, if I was Toronto I would be happy with Halliday.

Anyway, I got to my first game tonight, Twins at Kansas City. Pretty fun, it's only the second time I have even seen them this year since only one game has been on TV here. Ruben Sierra came off the bench and hit the game tying RBI, which was fun, and then Nathan got the save. I almost like going to away games more than home games.

[ct2k]

Twins are off to a rocky start, they can't let themselves get too far behind, Detroit are already on a roll :\

Mussina pulled another beauty out of the bag last night, that guy has had one of the most consistent careers every, like one losing season or something, and that was with the O's.

[The Miz]

why did you delete your post about Gaudin?

Meant to post it on the ESPN A's message board, didn't think anyone here would even know who Gaudin is.

And Gaudin loses the game, in his first appearance of the season, coming in a tie game vs. the Rangers in the 9th inning. Don't get me wrong, he needs to get work, but not in that situation.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Does baseball still mandate just one mandatory random drug test per year? Last year, after you were tested once you didn't have to be tested a 2nd time.

If that's the case, pretty obvious Bonds got tested early and is now back on the juice</font> :mad:

[Dragon]

Wow, awful game by the Yankees. The Devil Rays gave up 14 walks throughout the game and the Yankees only manage to score 2 runs and end up losing 4-2. 16 people LOB also, pretty ridiculous.

Bad baserunning as well and the offense just died.

But at least Chien-Ming Wang faired pretty well lol, which is good. 7 IP giving up 2 ER.

[Gertner]

nice outing by the jays tonight. Vernon Wells is money

[Gertner]

lol btw remember how bad i got reamed for saying Gustavo Chacin was better than Joe Blanton?

Are you guys ready to apologise to me yet?

[RoXer]

It's way too early and their stats are very similar. The only thing you could really argue is hits.

[ct2k]

nice outing by the jays tonight. Vernon Wells is money

I heart Vernon Wells, he's still doing wonders for my fantasy team:drool:

[FakeLaser]

lol btw remember how bad i got reamed for saying Gustavo Chacin was better than Joe Blanton?

Are you guys ready to apologise to me yet?
Blanton hasn't been too swift this year either...

[Gertner]

Chacin is 4-0

[FakeLaser]

My bad, read that post wrong. I thought you were saying Blanton was better.

[The Outlaw]

lol btw remember how bad i got reamed for saying Gustavo Chacin was better than Joe Blanton?

Are you guys ready to apologise to me yet?

So going by your great logic, Bronson Arroyo, Erik Bedard, and Chacin are all better than Johan Santana.

Good point!

[The Miz]

Who cares if he is 4-0? He hasn't pitched that well at all so far this year. Neither has Blanton, but the key thing here is they both have 30 starts left. How many times to people have to explain this to you before you understand?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Delmon Young, baseball's top prospect, has been suspended indefinately for throwing a bat at an umpire.

Fucking moron. He might have to spend another year in AAA now.

Maybe the Mets should offer Victor Zambrano for Delmon Young</font> :shifty:

[YOUR Hero]

Jays brought up a prospect from AAA to fill in for AJ Burnett. He didn't look too bad for the 2+ innings I seen him. He went 4 innings, left the game trailing 3-2. 2 wlaks and 2 hitter batters cost him. Jays have a deep and decent farm system of young pitchers.

[Gertner]

Who cares if he is 4-0? He hasn't pitched that well at all so far this year. Neither has Blanton, but the key thing here is they both have 30 starts left. How many times to people have to explain this to you before you understand?

Chacin was better last year and he's already better this year

[RoXer]

How? The only answer you could have is he has given up like 4 less hits and has a slightly lower ERA than Blanton yet it is still in the 5's.

Get outta here.

[Gertner]

and blanton is 2-2 and chacin is undefeated.

[Nervous Ferret]

That is pretty sick with Delmon Young throwing the bat. He through that harddd

[Dragon]

You are putting way too much importance on how good a pitcher is on something that can't control completely.

[Dragon]

Anyways, yeah. Saw the video of Young throwing the bat a little while ago. When I first heard of it I thought he just flipped it against the ump while standing right next to him. He walks away so you can't even see him on the screen and then chucks it pretty damn hard, lol. Pretty crazy.

[Gertner]

You are putting way too much importance on how good a pitcher is on something that can't control completely.

yeah it's called not giving up more runs than the other team. it's liek grant fuhr in hockey. sure he'd win games 8-7 but all that matter is that he won.

[Dragon]

He can't control how many runs his own team scores, so wins/losses really don't show much about which pitcher is better though. I'm not even talking about Chacin/Blanton just saying in general BTW.

[RoXer]

LLCOOLG IS PULLING OUR LEG

[RoXer]

YANKING OUR CHAIN, if you will

[RoXer]

He is NOT twisting our arm, however.

[Gertner]

Chacin is a better pitcher than Blanton

[RoXer]

har har har

[Gertner]

lol blanton has done shit all. ouch sophmore slump has hit

oh yeah and chacin has pitched so far against baltimore, yankees, boston and minny and he's 4-0. beat that

[RoXer]

I know you don't think that we don't catch your sarcastic undertones, but trust me, we do.

You're such a kidder.

[Gertner]

just face the facts that your A's and Blanton come in 2nd to my jays and King Gustav

[RoXer]

:love:

[Joey Slugs]

If Delmon Young isn't suspended for a year (they should throw him out of baseball for the shit he pulled), there is something wrong with the game.

This stupid million dollar bonus baby fuckhead walks around like he deserves to be there. No one is bigger than the game. It's about fucking time these minor leaguers started fucking acting like it.

Don't give me the "he's got the talent" bullshit either. I had the talent. Most guys that I played with in rookie ball camp had the talent. Never saw anyone of us throwing a bat at an ump because we got rung up.

Fucking bullshit.

Ban him. I don't give a fuck who he is.

[The Miz]

Who is better, Blanton or Chacin. Although most all non-biased people would say Blanton, it still has to be considered a toss-up.

But one thing is clear.

Blanton > Burnett

[The Miz]

I see just 2 wins for Halladay. When is he going to learn how to pitch?

[Gertner]

differnce is. Blanton ERA AND record blows

[The Miz]

I was gonna make a long post about how you are stupid, but nevermind, youre just really stupid basically

[YOUR Hero]

Wait a second. everything I had read, said he just flipped the bat and it hit the ump. You guys are telling me he threw it hard? - If that's the case, he should be banned a minimum 1 year past this season.

[YOUR Hero]

Wait a second. everything I had read, said he just flipped the bat and it hit the ump. You guys are telling me he threw it hard? - If that's the case, he should be banned a minimum 1 year past this season.

[Dragon]

http://tampabay.devilrays.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060427&content_id=1421241&vkey=news_tb&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb

[Dragon]

Could see the video there. Looks like he throws it pretty damn hard.

[BCWWF]

Wasn't a flip

[OssMan]

YEAHHHHHHHH stupid braves

[Joey Slugs]

Wait a second. everything I had read, said he just flipped the bat and it hit the ump. You guys are telling me he threw it hard? - If that's the case, he should be banned a minimum 1 year past this season.

Didn't just flip it. He got about 10 feet away or so and flug it at him. You're right.... 1 year minimum.

[BCWWF]

So anyway, Joey Slugs was in the minors?

[RoXer]

Oh, fucking Loaiza. I hate my fantasy team right now.

[YOUR Hero]

Yankees destroyed my Jays today. They scored in every inning. I noted there were a lot of high scoring blowouts today.

[BCWWF]

I don't know what to say about the Twins last two games. Either the Tigers offense really is THAT good, or else their offense is good and our pitching is really, really awful.

[The Miz]

A gift from God to the A's. Down 5-1 to the Kansas City Royals in the 3rd after Esteban Loaiza put up a line of

1.0 IP, 4 H, 5 ER, 6 BB, HR, 0 K

, God takes a giant piss, and it never happened.

[YOUR Hero]

Loaiza should still be given a loss, just for the principle of it.

[BCWWF]

Lol, watched the first inning of that. Pretty bad.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox finally pick up a win, with Papelbon getting a save to tie some type of rookie record with saves in April (Why does baseball always seem to have the pointless "records?") Sox started out great this year but they haven't looked too good as of late, Manny got another homer atleast. Still real early, but I'd rather see them doing good instead of shitty haha, Schilling tomorrow so hopefully it's a win. Kazmir always owns the Sox though, so we'll see.

[RoXer]

Wow. My Prayers WERE answered.

[ct2k]

Holy shizer, Twins got destroyed last night:|

[Loose Cannon]

my man Aaron Harang 4-1. He was one of my favorites with the A's. Too bad they got rid of him.

[The Miz]

What happens when you pitch in the NL. But, he would be much better than Esteban Loaiza; Harang's fastball is faster than 70 mph.

[Gertner]

good lord Towers. Not good

[YOUR Hero]

did you see Towers freeze up yesterday when the ball was hit back to him? Damon's scores from third on a sharply hit ball, back to Towers, he double clutches a throw to 2nd, no throw, he double clutches a throw to 1st, no throw finally he double clutches a throw to home plate, which is too late and not accurate. He needs a shrink or something.

[The Miz]

Mets reliever Yusaku Ikiri suspended 50 games for testing positive for roids, first guy caught under the new rules

[MVP]

Oh, fucking Loaiza. I hate my fantasy team right now.

I never start him in my other league.

I can't get rid of him either cause there's no talent in the FA pool and I keep getting denied my waivers.

[Dragon]

Chacin and Mussina both pitched pretty decent today, Yankees win 4-1. Definitely been the ace so far, Johnson hasn't been too consistent.

Two games at Fenway next, can't wait to see the reaction Damon gets lol.

[The Miz]

Blanton (W) 5 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 5 BB, 4 K, HR
Chacin (L) 6 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 6 K, HR

I'm beginning to see the light Gertner. W-L is a good way to determine who is better.

[YOUR Hero]

'bout time you came around, Miz

[Joey Slugs]

sweeeeeeeeep!

[ct2k]

Moose:cool:

[ct2k]

Also, Kenny Rogers:y: Way to boost my fantasy score son:cool:

[MVP]

Red Sox trade Josh Bard and a minor leauger to get Doug Mirabelli back. :cool:

[Loose Cannon]

Johnny comes home tonight. Bet he gets a hit first time up.

[Loose Cannon]

fuck, thought the game was an 8pm start. I waited all off-season to see Damon get booed and I miss it :mad:

Did they boo him hard?

[Loose Cannon]

hmmm, guess they cheered him cause I see a picture of him tipping his helmet

[FakeLaser]

I wish I could tell you, but I'm at work and have to watch the game via Yahoo box scores.

[FakeLaser]

Just downloaded flash on this computer so now at least I have GameChannel...

[Dragon]

I dunno, bringing in probably the worst pitcher in our bullpen in Tanyon Sturtze in a tie game in the 8th seems pretty smart to me. Honestly, who could not see Sturtze letting at least a run up when he came in? Haven't had confidence in Sturtze in quite some time.

It is kind of ironic though that the very reason Myers is brought in this offseason was to get Ortiz out but he gives up a 3 run homerun the first time he sees him and puts the game out of reach.

lol, I dunno. Wasn't the best game played by the Yankees, bad baserunning and whatnot. But that decision by Torre to put Sturtze in there was awful.

[MVP]

AL EAST

Red Sox - 15-11
Yankees - 13-11

[Dragon]

At the first at bat Damon actually got cheered quite a bit mixed in with the boos. You could see a lot of people clapping and stuff. But after that he was booed at every at bat which was expected.

[FakeLaser]

I don't know why Torre has such a hard on for Sturtze. He always puts him in. Hopefully Dotel comes back strong so we only have to deal with Sturtze in mop up situations.

[Dragon]

Yeah, Sturtze was effective for about half a year and Torre just falls in love with him. He trusts him so much in big spots; I hate to see him come out at all but in a tie game against the Sox in the 8th is just ridiculous. Torre sees him as the second set up man to Farnsy, but he shouldn't be anywhere near the game when it is close.

Proctor was in the pen warming up wasn't he? I have so much more faith in him than Sturtze.

[Dragon]

BTW, with Small coming back they sent Matt Smith down to AAA. He didn't pitch that much but he was good while he was here, I don't think he gave up any hits in a couple innings. Really should give him a chance and just find something to do with Sturtze.

[FakeLaser]

Proctor has improved a lot. I think he's gonna be solid. I'd rather have him in the game in the 7th than Sturtze. Sturtze should be used if we are getting crapped on big time and we need someone to eat innings, that is it.

I didn't really get a chance to see much of Smith. I doubt he'll make it back up if Dotel is any good, which I think he will be.

Rotation:
Johnson
Mussina
Wang
Chacon
Pavano

Bullpen
Longman - Small, Wright
Mop-up - Sturtze, Villone
Lefty specialist - Myers
7th - Dotel
8th - Farnsworth
CL - Rivera

Hopefully the staff turns out like that. Not too sure what to expect out of Pavano though. I don't really have much confidence in the guy, but I'd rather have him starting than Wright. Ideally we'd have Clemens, but yeah I wouldn't count on that, if he's going anywhere it's Houston.

[Dragon]

Yeah, Proctor has been good this year. He's been brought in some tight spots too and has done fairly well.

Dotel will be a huge boost for the pen when he returns as well. Dotel, Farnsworth and Rivera will be a great back end of the bullpen if Dotel produces when he gets back.

Pavano is the biggest question mark on this team. I doubt he will come back and produce much better than Wright which is pretty sad. What month did he get injured last season? It must be close to a year since he's been in the rotation. Him getting injured when he does return or is close to returning will be no shock to me so I'm really not gonna count on him for much. Maybe he will suprise me and actually come back and pitch for the rest of the season strong but I doubt it.

I dunno, its gonna be interesting how the rotation situation works out.

[FakeLaser]

I hope he's halfway decent, because I wouldn't be too comfortable with Small or Wright out there.

Bottom line is Pavano is a mediocre pitcher. We'll try to replace him next year with Zito but he's on the decline too. Ditto for Mark Mulder, who will also be a FA. Pettite will be a free agent too but I don't know if he'd return to NY. Kelvim Escobar and Jason Schmidt are the only other 2 free agent starters worth anything and I don't know how they'd fare in NY (wouldn't mind Escobar but I feel like he wouldn't stay healthy).

[Dragon]

Hopefully A-Rod and Matsui get back on track soon too, lol. I swear the last couple times I've seen A-Rod hit he either strikes out swinging on the high fastball or just gets a cheap walk. Trying too hard again.

[FakeLaser]

They'll come around.

Hopefully A-Rod comes around when we need him though.

[Dragon]

Yeah, it will be a boost if he is even halfway decent. I hope we don't trade for Zito near the deadline, we will get robbed on whatever we have to give Oakland.

Interesting to see what the rotation will look like at the end of this year, or next year. I can't wait until some prospects actually start going through the minors, seeing as all of our talent is in A-ball. Phillip Hughes should be great from what I've read and heard. Would be nice to have a pitcher from our system actually develop into something.

[FakeLaser]

Yeah, probably won't be seeing anything like that for about 3 years though. Oh well.

Kinda sad that the last top tier starter we've produced and kept is Pettite.

[Dragon]

It's gonna be a weird time between when Johnson/Mussina are done and some prospects develop. Obviously George is gonna do something, but we are going to have to rely on free agents which really hasn't worked out with the past few we have signed.

[FakeLaser]

Johnson scares the crap out of me. I really don't know how long he can go.

Mussina is looking great this year though, he's healthy and pitching like he did in his prime. He's more of a finesse pitcher so I think he can keep it up for a couple more seasons. Hopefully we can get him a ring before it's too late.

[Dragon]

Yeah, not too sure about Johnson either. How long is his contract for? One more year or is this his last?

As for Mussina he probably could go a while longer. I know we have an option for him next year at like 18 million haha. That obviously won't be picked up no matter how good he does this year. But I've heard he would like to sign a smaller contract to come back next year, would like to see that happen so he could add some stability to the rotation.

[FakeLaser]

If I recall correctly, next year is Johnson's last year. I don't see him pitching for the Yankees beyond that.

Moose will be back at a reduced rate.

[Dragon]

I dunno, don't know how effective Johnson will be after this year. Guess we will see.

[RP]

lol Doug Miraveli.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'd like to congratulate whatever Bostonians who decided to write "TRADER" on a giant white sheet and bring it to the game. They definately knocked Damon down a peg with that.

[The Outlaw]

I'd like to congratulate whatever Bostonians who decided to write "TRADER" on a giant white sheet and bring it to the game. They definately knocked Damon down a peg with that.

LOL

[RoXer]

lol

[MVP]

Jason Kendall charged the mound after John Lackey yelled at him for leaning over the plate. Lackey got suspended for 5 games even though Kendall was the faggot and started the fight.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'd like to congratulate whatever Bostonians who decided to write "TRADER" on a giant white sheet and bring it to the game. They definately knocked Damon down a peg with that.
lol I missed that, they were chanting "traitor" (or that dude with the sign was chanting "trader") when he was in the outfiled but that wasn't even the best chant. The best one was when Giambi came up in the first and the crowd started chanting steriods.

Damon is a little bitch though, it was like 75% boos then he tipped his cap and got some cheers after he did that. People threw money at him in the outfield, pretty good shit. On top of Mirabelli making a crazy return, overall great game for early in the season. These games always are classics though. Red Sox lead the series 46-45 now :shifty:

One my friends works at Fenway and he said some guy had a stereo right outside of the park with the audio from the Damon interview before last off season where he said he would never go to the Yankees, even if they offered him more money. Kept playing it over and over

[FakeLaser]

People threw 20 dollar bills. Wouldn't mind being on the grounds crew.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They looked fake to me. If people threw legit money then they are idiots haha especially considered the amount of money they paid for those tickets. I saw tickets on stubhub.com going for almost 1G like 3 weeks ago.

Ortiz's homer in that game probably would have been the longest homerun in the history of Fenway Park if the wind wasn't blowing straight in from center field. He still hit out with the wind, it hit the bat right at the perfect spot. The wind saved a few homeruns that game though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Jason Kendall charged the mound after John Lackey yelled at him for leaning over the plate. Lackey got suspended for 5 games even though Kendall was the faggot and started the fight.
Lackey was the instigator. He yelled at Kendall for wearing a ton of armor and Kendall yelled back and charged the mound. Lackey has 6 inches and 30 pounds on Kendall so I don't see how he was being a faggot.

[The Miz]

All Kendall did was crowd the plate, which is not illegal. Lackey did the only thing Angels players/fans/coaches know how to do, whine and complain. Lackey instigated the entire thing, and his punishment is sitting out 1 whole start. But yeah, Kendall's a fag.

I'm glad it was Kendall charging Lackey and not Posada charging Beckett, then ESPN would have a 3-hour special on it. They might even create a new channel so they could have 24-hour coverage on it.

[MVP]

So why did he have to charge the mound over a comment? It's not like he got beamed. Lackey may have instigated, but Kendall was the one who started the physcial fight regardless of Lackey's size advantage. Kendall should be suspended as well.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's the American League. A batter can't let a pitcher talk shit because he won't bat during the game. Kendall should get suspended but he did what he was supposed to do.

[The Miz]

lol neither one of them have been suspended yet, so what are you even complaining about? Don't worry; penis-loving, skirt-wearing, flamboyant homogayfag Kendall is going to get suspended.

[MVP]

I read that Lackey was the only one who got suspended, which would have been bullshit so I said something.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kendall is mad cuz he hasn't hit a homerun since 2004

[RoXer]

lol

[The Miz]

It actually couldn't have worked out better for the A's, they got Lackey out of the game, they won the game, and now they have Kendall and his T-ball swings out of the lineup for 3-5 games.

[The Outlaw]

Didn't the same thing happen with Kendall and one of his current teamates not too long ago?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

From what I've heard, it doesn't really seem like one guy as at fault. Like Kendall has a rep for leaning out to get hit so Lackey said something about his elbow protector. Then a fight started, don't really see how you can blame anyone, if anything I would thing it would go more towards Kendall but I haven't seen the play yet, so I can't pass judgement.

[YOUR Hero]

pitchers need to be able plunk more batters.

[OssMan]

sheesh

[Gertner]

Papalbon's perfect season is PapelGONE!

BLUE JAYS OWN YOUR ASS BITCH!

B.J Ryan> Jon Papelbon

[Joey Slugs]

JOE CREDE

[BCWWF]

LEW FORD :shifty:

[CNM]

Didn't the same thing happen with Kendall and one of his current teamates not too long ago?

Haha yeah I'd forgotten about that. Kendall charged Joe Kennedy a few years back.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Papalbon's perfect season is PapelGONE!

BLUE JAYS OWN YOUR ASS BITCH!

B.J Ryan> Jon Papelbonlol PapelGONE! did you seriously just say that?

Vernon Wells was PapelGONE!!!! tonight when he was the tying run at the plate in the 9th

[Gertner]

your piece of crap team almost blew it again

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol So they got a big lead againest the Blue Jays then the Blue Jays made a semi come back (still lost by 3 runs not exactly close) and somehow you try to turn this onto the Sox? You are probably the funniest TPWW sports forum poster

[Joey Slugs]

fuck the AL East. sick of hearing about this shit.

easily the most overrated division in baseball. "oh, our 5th pitcher is better than your 5th pitcher". is that all you guys can think of? serious. Blanton and Chacin BOTH suck. last time i checked.... the reigning AL champs were still in the central.

and as for the "better" pitcher arguement...

Jose Contreras
5-0, 1.41 ERA, 21 K, 0.87 WHIP

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

White Sox are the best team in baseball right now but why am I gonna talk about them? I don't live in Chicago

People talk about the teams they care about, so if more people care about teams in the AL East then so be it. I don't see how it is the most overrated divison in baseball though, it is a pretty tough division even though the best team resides in the central.

[FakeLaser]

I bet if you put the Baltimore Orioles in the NL they'd have a shot at the playoffs. They'll probably finish last in the AL East.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Not to mention the number of wildcard births coming out of the AL East recently

Debatable which is the best, but I dunno how a division with the Yankees, Red Sox and the BlueJays can be seen as overrated.

[Gertner]

lol So they got a big lead againest the Blue Jays then the Blue Jays made a semi come back (still lost by 3 runs not exactly close) and somehow you try to turn this onto the Sox? You are probably the funniest TPWW sports forum poster

lol when will the sox stop trotting out Rudy Seanez? I think he's allowed a homerun every game he's pitched.

[The Miz]

fuck the AL East. sick of hearing about this shit.

easily the most overrated division in baseball. "oh, our 5th pitcher is better than your 5th pitcher". is that all you guys can think of? serious. Blanton and Chacin BOTH suck. last time i checked.... the reigning AL champs were still in the central.

and as for the "better" pitcher arguement...

Jose Contreras
5-0, 1.41 ERA, 21 K, 0.87 WHIP

Sorry, I'll only talk about teams I don't pay attention to from now on. I will never utter a word about Seattle or Oakland again.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol when will the sox stop trotting out Rudy Seanez? I think he's allowed a homerun every game he's pitched.Tell me about it

Him and Tavarez both

[Loose Cannon]

I think Pro baseball's leagues should work like this

American League

National League

AL East

and of course..

Barry Bonds

[BCWWF]

I bet if you put the Baltimore Orioles in the NL they'd have a shot at the playoffs. They'll probably finish last in the AL East.

I would take the Mets over the Red Sox and Yankees

[Adder]

I think Pro baseball's leagues should work like this

American League

National League

AL East

and of course..

Barry Bonds

That's beautiful. :'(

[FakeLaser]

I would take the Mets over the Red Sox and Yankees I highly doubt their starting pitching would hold up as well in the AL East.

Not saying the Mets aren't a good team or anything. The Mets and the Cards are the only teams that would be strong enough to compete for a playoff spot in the American League.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

While I understand that the same teams getting continued coverage gets a little old, its kinda funny to complain about it. They are putting out what people watch. If they got good ratings for Indians or A's games I am sure those would be on TV a lot more.

[YOUR Hero]

Stima speaks the truth

[RoXer]

When did I say Blanton was better than Chacin?

[The Outlaw]

Haha yeah I'd forgotten about that. Kendall charged Joe Kennedy a few years back.

Yeah that was it, haha.

I think Pro baseball's leagues should work like this

American League

National League

AL East

and of course..

Barry Bonds

LOL I love you

[ct2k]

While I understand that the same teams getting continued coverage gets a little old, its kinda funny to complain about it. They are putting out what people watch. If they got good ratings for Indians or A's games I am sure those would be on TV a lot more.


True.

You only have to look back to 99-00 and the Indians were on ESPN all the time. As soon as Manny, Robbie and Omar left, so did casual viewers and so, ESPN!

[BCWWF]

See I don't mind the Yankees/Red Sox getting coverage. I mean people want to see the Yankees because most fans know every player on their team. The thing that pisses me off is when they sensationalize little things that happen with either the Yankees or the Red Sox. Like last year, there was a random series in the middle of the season, but the Sports Center before the game had like five stories about it, including one all about the bloody sock. It wasn't the first time they played, it wasn't a particularly big series, but they just blew it way out of proportion. AWFUL.

[ct2k]

I find over here the coverage over-does it on things that are relatively unimportant, Ie whenever there's a Cubs/WSox or Yankees/Mets interleague game.

[The Miz]

The one I hate is Cubs/Cardinals. Nothing exciting ever happens in that series and ESPN always hypes it up as ANOTHER CUBS/CARDINALS SHOWDOWN

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

the Red Sox Yankees rivaliary never gets old to me (obviously) Maybe I am little biased here but they always seem to put on the best games. Atleast "rivarly" wise. I laughed though when I heard there was going to be a one hour pregame thing on ESPN before last Monday's game though, first thing I thought about was being complaining about the over-coverage.

You know what I am sick of though? That sports gambling shit, If I hear that Charles Barkley has lost 10 million dollars betting I think I am going to punch a baby.

[ct2k]

I never get bored of Yankees/Red Sox either, again probably i'm biased, but the tension always produces fireworks even when the game itself is crappy, and usually its not.

And yeah, Cubs/Cards was only a rivalry when McGwire and Sammy were both roiding and hitting 65 dingers a year. I guess because they're both midwest cities and national league they're automatically rivals :-\ Saying that you don't get two dozen Brewers/Cubs games a year with claims of it being the greatest rivalry ever.

[BCWWF]

If I was living in Boston or New York, and the two teams were both always playoff caliber, there is no reason no to be excited about it. Then you put the No. 1 and No. 4 (i think) media market into the mix and its on all the time and the rest of the world can sometimes get bored of it.

[Gertner]

King Gustav 5-1 baby!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Angel Hernandez should be kicked out of baseball.

---

With runners on first and third and one out, Smoltz hit a tapper in front of the plate against Jose Lima (0-1). Lo Duca fielded the ball with his right hand and lunged back in an attempt to tag Atlanta's Brian McCann. Plate umpire Angel Hernandez called McCann safe, and Lo Duca slammed the ball to the infield grass while arguing.

"I spiked it pretty good, probably better than Ickey Woods, but I didn't do the Ickey Shuffle," Lo Duca said.

Hernandez immediately ejected Lo Duca. Cox got tossed for arguing after Smoltz wasn't allowed to take second.

After the game, both Lima and Lo Duca said that Hernandez told them that he was calling pitches farther off the plate strikes for Smoltz, but not for Lima.

"When the umpire said 'I'm going to give you a couple of inches off the plate, but I'm not going to give you 4-5 inches because you're not John Smoltz,' I'm trying to protect my pitcher," Lo Duca said.

---

Blatant favoritism. Don't get me wrong, I think the Mets would have lost with Lima starting anyway...but that's bullshit</font>

[The Outlaw]

LOL he didn't tag him first off, unless he got him on the heel. Lo Duca sure was pissed but from all the angles I saw he didn't tag him. Second off, is Lo Duca a moron? Just wondering because spiking a ball during a live play is pretty smart. Yeah it's blatant favoritism IF that happened, but that happens everywhere. Is Pedro Martinez going to get the same calls as John Lackey? No. It happens for and against every team. Deal with it. Thrown out of baseball? Come on.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Lo Duca clearly got the tag on the heel. Don't really see why he'd get so pissed if he didn't.

And I'm aware that umps are biased all the time, but to flat out say it to the people participating in the game itself is beyond retarded. OK, banning is strict...but he definately deserves investigation and needs to be reprimanded.</font>

[The Outlaw]

Clearly? I saw three or four different angles and it wasn't clear. The announcers said they thought he tagged him, this was after the slow motion replays though. Obviously, that's why I said "Lo Duca sure was pissed", don't see why he'd throw such a little bitch fit if he didn't tag him. Then again, he threw a ball during a live play and let runners advance (should have been runners instead of the one runner to third), so he must not be too bright.

[BCWWF]

You guys are clearly missing the big story of the day. Johan Santana 7 IP, 2 ER, 11 K MEAT

[YOUR Hero]

no no no Barrry Bonds hit a HR

[The Miz]

Really? It's hard to keep up with Bonds these days

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yea that Lo Duca call was a pretty tough call, I am sure he tagged him otherwise he wouldn't have flipped out like that but cmon. It's not like it was obvious and the ump missed it, I saw the replay a few times and I couldn't tell whether he got tagged or not.

[Gertner]

Casey Janssen with his first win of his career and looked damn good!

[Loose Cannon]

Just like to say Johnny D has started out nicely for the Yanks. yea, We call him Johnny D cause he's on our team now

[YOUR Hero]

Complete Game, Halladay. 3 out of 4 from the Angels. Yeah.

Now, onto Lo Duca. He overreacted so poorly. It wasn't game 7 of the world series. Relax, Paul

[The Miz]

lol I love it when the little leaguers on the Angels fail to have their bloop hits drop in all the time. That is the only way they win any game, ever

[YOUR Hero]

Adam Kennedy was trying to bunt all game long. Fucking guy's at the plate whilst Halladay is still working on a no hitter and he's trying to bunt. Some people say that's bad baseball.

[YOUR Hero]

Weaver was pitching a good game himself, until the 5th inning. He had a 4 inning no hitter going, and then the JAys lit him up for 5 runs. 2, 2 run HRs in the mix.

[Gertner]

Another great game for the jays. Fianlyl got some easy games coming up (Oakland in particular :) )

[RoXer]

Wed, May 10 7:07 pm EDT J. Blanton vs. G. Chacín

[Adder]

The Jays need to go on a winning streak. No more of this win 2 lose 2, win 1, lose 1 bullshit.

[The Miz]

Towers vs. Haren, that should be interesting for about 2 innings

[The Miz]

If any of you saw highlights of the Mariners/DRays game yesterday, look for The Miz and his brother catching Jonny Gomes home run ball to right

[Gertner]

lol how is towers still starting

[The Miz]

Delmon Young gets 50 games for bat throwing incident

[Gertner]

wow! thought it'd be more!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

6 World Series MVPs in Yankee Stadium tonight

[Loose Cannon]

yea, just so you guys didn't forget there was a Boston/Yankee series starting tonight

[Loose Cannon]

oh, started already.. again. god dam, these games seem to start earlier these days.

[The Miz]

lmao their backup catcher just hit a home run from the right side where he is like a .190 career hitter. Towers for Cy. 3-0 A's

[Loose Cannon]

Miz, how much do you pay for that baseball package you have?

[The Miz]

$80 for the season. Definately worth it.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, not bad at all. you get every game, right? And is this for Cable or Dish or what?

[The Miz]

mlb.tv, which in on the computer, but I paid my geeky neighbor 10 bucks to hook it up to my TV.

[The Miz]

And yes I can watch any game I want

[Loose Cannon]

ok cool

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Some kid from Cali got the MLB TV thing so he could watch the Dodgers while he is out here. Seems pretty sweet...didn't know it was possible to hook it up to your TV though.

[The Miz]

Yeah I have no idea how he did it. He's a huge geek and when he tried to explain it to me my head hurt.

[The Miz]

Big Unit is all over the place

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yankees didn't have the shift on for Ortiz because there was men on 2nd and 3rd so it figures Ortiz actaully hits to where the 3rd basemen normally plays but then A-Rod fucks it up and it leads to a 3 run inning for the Sox. Now Johnson keeps over throwing and is having all types of trouble. Fuck 'em up

[Loose Cannon]

my dad knows how to hook it up. Just a bunch of cabling you need I think.

Johnson sucked tonight man.

[Dragon]

Yeah, Johnson looked awful, he just looks scared and tired the whole time.

[Dragon]

Wow, pretty rough. 7-2

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

haha 3 run homerun by Alex Gonzalez. First homer since Aug 5 2005, dude crushed it with a golf swing too hahah

[RoXer]

Big Unit is all over the place
ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

[OssMan]

YES

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Why do Blue Jays start 2 minutes later everything where else? (7:07, 2:07 etc)

[Loose Cannon]

cause those dam Canadians are always a little behind on everything.

Just ask any one of thier sports teams, they'll tell you :lol:

[YOUR Hero]

Jays tried to come back, fell short. What is up with Towers. Jesus.

[YOUR Hero]

...he was so consistant last year too :(

[YOUR Hero]

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Jodi Olson, who was to marry Puckett next month, told the Star Tribune of his wishes in a phone interview Monday.
Attorneys representing Puckett's children have filed a petition in Maricopa County, Ariz., where he lived at the time of his death, asking that his ashes be given to his children, Catherine and Kirby Jr. Puckett's former wife, Tonya, is listed as the petitioner in the court papers.
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The petition was filed Monday after an agreement couldn't be reached over who should get the ashes, which have been kept by a Twin Cities funeral home.
Puckett, 45, died at an Arizona hospital March 6 after suffering a stroke a day earlier at his home in Scottsdale. His body was cremated after March 12 services in Wayzata and at the Metrodome.
In his 2003 will, Puckett named his children, who live in the Twin Cities with their mother, as his primary beneficiaries. But he didn't leave written instructions on what should be done with his ashes.
Puckett's children have said that they want the ashes. Five of his siblings have signed court papers saying they want the children to have them.
Olson said she has talked with the executor of Puckett's estate about dividing the ashes with Puckett's children.
"The children and his siblings do not want the ashes divided," said Bridget Logstrom, the attorney representing the children.
Olson said she is "devastated" that the issue has become so public.
She said that she "just assumed the ashes would be left with me as Kirby was going to be my husband in just 90 days." The couple, who had lived together in Arizona since November 2004, planned to marry June 24. They became engaged in October 2005. She said that in addition to spreading some of his ashes over an inner-city baseball field, she also wanted "a small bit" to wear in a locket "so I could feel Kirby close to my heart."
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[Gertner]

lol good to see gibbons has faith in towers

[YOUR Hero]

well he should come around. I still have faith in him too. but's it's getting painful.

[MVP]

Pretty good outing by Beckett tonight even though I was scared he was gonna have another shitty game after giving up the HR to Giambi in the first. Usually when Beckett has a bad game he gives up runs real early.

[Gertner]

towers is really strugling with his location and when it's off he's brutal

[FakeLaser]

God damn it RJ.

[The Icon of Elisim]

I dunno, Towers location looked pretty good for the first three innings. I dunno why Gibbons pulled him after 4, he had a rough spot and didn't get a chance to go past it.

I wouldn't be shocked if Towers gets 1 or 2 more starts before they send him to the pen (maybe it would help if they make Zaun his perminent catcher so that he gets someone to work with all week). If thats the case hopefully they give his spot to Pete Walker and not Scott Downs

[The Miz]

They shoud just stick with him until Burnett gets back and then give his spot to Janssen. His location wasn't bad, he's just occasionally throwing meatballs and theyre getting hammered. The pitches to Crosby and Melhuse were right down the middle. To be fair, he's had to face the Red Sox 3 times and the Yankees twice I think. If his ERA was over 10 and he'd been facing the DRays and Mariners that'd be a bigger problem.

[Gertner]

yeah but the jays are supposed to contend this year and we can't have our pitchers suck ass against the top teams

[The Miz]

Well they'll go with a 4 man in the playoffs anyway so that doesn't really matter. As long as he beats the teams he should he'll be fine.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

6 World Series MVPs in Yankee Stadium tonightAnd again :shifty:

[Gertner]

lol they gotta make the playoffs first

[YOUR Hero]

what an awesome Blanton/Chacin match up tonight.

[Gertner]

lol damn chacin

[YOUR Hero]

Chacin is having elbow troubles. Getting an MRI tommorow... SHIT

[Nervous Ferret]

7-3 Yankeesssssss

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Thought the Sox where gonna run away with it after Ortiz upper deck shot and Lowell's solo homer but Mussina recovered and pitched well while Schilling really didn't

[FakeLaser]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE

[Gertner]

lol since Blanton LOST and Chacin had another masterpiece of an outing, we can conclude that Chacin> Blanton

[Gertner]

8-3 Jays. A's are just pretenders.

[RoXer]

lol

3 innings, 5 runs

MARVELOUS

[Dragon]

Hideki Matsui injured his wrist in the first inning. He didn't get a half inning of play in so it doesn't count as an official game. His continuous games streak is gonna end at 1768 counting Japan and in MLB.

Pretty rough if he is gonna be out long, two of our main starters in the outfield will be out.

[The Miz]

8-3 Jays. A's are just pretenders.

Have you watched the second half of baseball the last 5 years? Oakland owns it. Everyone is injured or slumping and they still are in 1st/2nd place. Just wait, it'll be about the same time the Blue Jays are fading out

[YOUR Hero]

damn, the Jays/A's game isn't om tonight. I hate that. :rant:

[YOUR Hero]

...or did they play an early game tonight?