Another Radio Jerk Rips Wrestling Fans...

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http://www.powerwrestling.com/news/images/icons/arrow.gifESPN Radio Host Calls Wrestling Fans "Booger Eaters"
[ Wrestling News | Posted on 04.13.06 @ 12:20 am ]
On ESPN Radio’s The Herd show today, Colin Cowherd went on a rant ripping on wrestling fans, calling them “booger eaters”, and to turn the radio off because he was going to have “grown-up talk”. It was a lead-in to talking about steroid usage and that NFL athletes are the best in the world and that you couldn’t get any bigger or in better shape than them without steroids. He then took pot-shots at wrestlers and fans for a while longer, continuing to call them booger eaters, saying they lived in their parent’s basements, and that 90% of his audience is above them, basically the same generalizations the “mainstream” press makes on a regular basis. He then implied that Eddie Guerrero was on steroids when he died, took a couple more shots at wrestling fans, calling them morons, and then moved on. There are times when I wonder why this guy even has a radio show.

Credit: Allen and PWInsider.com (http://www.pwinsider.com/)



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[Dave Youell]

Ok folks, it's complaints time again!

[Hired Hitman]

It's sad when a lousy radio show host feels the need to badmouth something to get attention.

[Chavo Classic]

Isn't this Cowherd guy the same guy as last time?

Let them think what they want. I think he's an asshole for disgracing the memory of another human-being, and he thinks I eat boogers. Big deal.

[Ska-Wars]

Cowherd was the same guy who caused all the controversy when Eddie Guerrero first died, yes. From what I've seen/heard of him he sounds like an arrogant, ignorant fuckwit anyway so I'm not exactly surprised it's him again.

[Extreme Angle]

Wouldn't him calling us booger eaters be reffering us to kids as they always eat their bogeys? :wtf:
anyway back on subject, what did the guy say last time?
how would we all complain?
Burn down his house? :?:

[LK]

“booger eaters”
OUCH! LIKE A FLAMING DAGGER THROUGH MY HEART!!!

[AJHayes]

Sent an e-mail already, and will call later in the day. I can't believe an adult is calling people booger eaters. What kind of idiot is this?

[Kane Knight]

LOL. Last time it was outrageous. This time, it's just sad.

[Funky Fly]

Didn't ESPN's phone system get shut down last time? You think he'd learn.

[KingofOldSchool]

I happen to like my boogers, thank you very much!

[Just John]

lol booger eaters

[Chavo Classic]

Didn't ESPN's phone system get shut down last time? You think he'd learn.

Maybe he's a sucker for the any publicity is good publicity philosphy. Attention whore

[Shaved Monkey]

Didn't ESPN's phone system get shut down last time? You think he'd learn.

I think he learned that he can draw a shit ton of attention his way by doing this, and his ratings (or whatever they use for radio) probably go up whenever he makes fun of wrestling fans.

In other words, I'm pretty sure he knows exactly what he's doing, and let's face it, wrestling fans are pretty easy targets most of the time.

[TerranRich]

LOL WTF POO POO HEAD!!!111!1 :foc: :foc:

HE MAEK ME ANGERY!1

[Xero]

I'd boycot his radio show, but since only his mother and retarded friends at the "happy place" only listen it'd be a waste of time.

Seriously, I have never heard a grown man in his right mind call someone a "booger eater". You'd think that if this WAS grown-up talk, he could break out the "piles of crap" comment.

[Arnold HamNegger]

I've never heard of this guy, so I could care less. I could eat a can of Alphabet soup and crap out a better insult than "booger eaters."

[Just John]

It wasnt really a rip, just a blunt stab.

[RP]

I'm pretty sure Eddie Guerrero was doing steroids.

[PureHatred]

I'd boycot his radio show, but since only his mother and retarded friends at the "happy place" only listen it'd be a waste of time.

Seriously, I have never heard a grown man in his right mind call someone a "booger eater". You'd think that if this WAS grown-up talk, he could break out the "piles of crap" comment.

He's a nationally syndicated host carried on more than 80% of ESPN Radio's affiliates. pretty sure he's got more listeners than his mom and his retarded friends.

The truth is most people look down on wrestling fans as rednecks and/or white trash and as losers. To the mainstream media, we are all like that "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME" guy.

And the reason he was saying that he didn't want wrestling fans in the topic was that they (for the most part) can't have an objective discussion about steroids. Eddie's death kind of proved that. Let's face it, every year you hear about wrestlers dying because of how they abused their bodies: heart attacks, heart failures, overdoses, suicides. etc. To the rest of the world, when a wrestler dies inside a hotel room their response is, "Oh, that's not surprising."

That was never a personal attack on Eddie; it was more of a statement of how the wrestling industry tends to chew people up and spit them out.

[Xero]

The truth is most people look down on wrestling fans as rednecks and/or white trash and as losers. To the mainstream media, we are all like that "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME" guy.
So did I not get them memo about when "booger eater" became such a sophisticated term?

[PureHatred]

So in that whole post, the one thing you want to address is the term 'booger eater?'

Calling someone booger eater is basically like calling them a loser. Mainstream media thinks wrestling fans are low income losers; the same people who watched Jerry Springer. There's a reason that wrestling, despite relatively high ratings for cable, can't seem to get big name sponsors. There's a reason that UPN, moved Smackdown to Friday nights despite being by far its highest rated show.

If you don't believe that the mainstream media looks down at wrestling; or you don't realize to what degree, you're kidding yourself.

[Just John]

He's a nationally syndicated host carried on more than 80% of ESPN Radio's affiliates. pretty sure he's got more listeners than his mom and his retarded friends.

The truth is most people look down on wrestling fans as rednecks and/or white trash and as losers. To the mainstream media, we are all like that "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME" guy.

Truer words have never been said. To be honest, some guy on a radio show calling people 'booger eaters' is so stupid there's no point making any sort of deal out of it.

[Xero]

So in that whole post, the one thing you want to address is the term 'booger eater?'

Calling someone booger eater is basically like calling them a loser. Mainstream media thinks wrestling fans are low income losers; the same people who watched Jerry Springer. There's a reason that wrestling, despite relatively high ratings for cable, can't seem to get big name sponsors. There's a reason that UPN, moved Smackdown to Friday nights despite being by far its highest rated show.

If you don't believe that the mainstream media looks down at wrestling; or you don't realize to what degree, you're kidding yourself.
Didn't know that I suggested that.

Of course I know the media looks down on us, I just don't find the need to take shit that they say seriously.

Are steriods in wrestling? Yeah. Do they kill wrestlers? Yes, a lot. Did steroids have a hand in Eddie's death? Of course.

But the thing is, you never hear these guys making fun of football players, for example, for taking steroids, they take it SO FUCKING SERIOUSLY.

Even another psudo-sport, body building. You never hear about steroid scandals there, but you can't tell me they don't exist. Wrestling is a scapegoat for everything. Steroids, violence, sexism, etc, it always has been and always will be.

I just think they could be a bit more professional in the WAY they handle it. No reason to start calling people names and then not expect a backlash.

[PureHatred]

But the thing is, you never hear these guys making fun of football players, for example, for taking steroids, they take it SO FUCKING SERIOUSLY.

Football has a ridiculously stringent testing policy. I'm sure a few players slip by, but the reason people in the media don't hammer the NFL is that they addressed the issue, whereas the WWE is basically the wild west when it comes to steroids. Also, it doesn't help the Vince makes it a point to push the most freakishly large wrestlers he has on his roster. When it comes to steroids, wrestling has asked for it.

[Just John]

Sport - Sports Entertainment

That's almost an invite to start the ripping

[PureHatred]

I just think they could be a bit more professional in the WAY they handle it. No reason to start calling people names and then not expect a backlash.

And thinking on this...he is a sports talk host. He blasted Brett Favre and then took calls from Packer fans. He cracked on Vince Young's Wonderlich score then took calls from Texas fans. Just today, he called Babe Ruth overrated and then took calls from baseball 'purists.' So being an ass is his schtick. He wants the backlash.

[Arnold HamNegger]

Sport - Sports Entertainment

That's almost an invite to start the ripping

Did you guys see Jarrett, The Hammer, Jackie and Monty on ESPN 2's "Quite Frankly" last night? Amazingly it wasn't a rip fest and was handled quite professionally I thought.

[The One]

You guys are fucking dumbasses! This guy makes his living by annoying, pissing off, and getting in people's heads. You complaining is what people tune into to listen to. On top of that, when Vince McMahon wants to have strip contests between divas, have blood pouring from someone's forehead, and take people's patients with religion to the boundries and back...it's free speech and the all powerful "if you don't like it, change the channel" argument comes up. But when someone offends wrestlers, dammit! That's too far.

It's free fucking speech! Hell, Eddie Guerrero DID use steriods, he DID abuse pain kilers, and he WAS a sloppy drunk for many years. It DID kill him. If someone assumes it was in his system when he died, bassed on many previous years of abuse, it's a logical conclusion. And if he wants to take shots at Owen Hart and Eddie Guerrero...let him. Who the fuck are you to say what is and isn't ok to talk about? If you don't like what he's saying, don't listen, but don't do the fucking PTC bullshit of lodging formal protests...hell that is just what he wants! And face it, a good majority of pro wrestling fans are back water, red neck, trailer park trash...Monday, Friday, and Sunday belong to WWE, the other days to Nascar.

Damn UPN for taking Mohammed Hassan off the air, but damn ESPN for leaving a different controversal character on? Hell that just means ESPN had more balls then UPN. When will you fucking idiots realise that WWE isn't a sport, it is a soap opera with a sports setting. That makes many (not all) legit sports fan upset. Just like I am sure quite a few cowboys got all unholy pissed off at Brokeback Mountain. Just let it fucking go. We (some of the largest fans in the world) take cracks and make jokes about this industry all the time.

So everyone needs to chut the fuck up, realise this guy has a right to say whatever he wants, you can personally take it however you want...but don't bitch, moun, whine, complain, protest, boycott, or jump off the deep end just because someone said something you dislike. Personally I disagree with him, however I am a well adjusted human being who doesn't take every crack someone says about a group of people I may or may not consider myself to be a part of personally.

[Disturbed316]

Thing is, he is 100% right.

I still eat my boogers. I still live at home with my parents. I have done some very moronic things in my lifetime, AND I agree that NFL athletes are the best in the world.

Don't see what you people are moaning about him.

[ThruTheWire]

It not like this radio guy is anyone significant, who cares...

[Londoner]

Er ok.I find it funny that this guy thinks i care about what he thinks.He must really be struggling to find anything decent to talk about if he has to resort to this to get attention.

[Londoner]

And as for the Eddie comment, well he's reached a new low for even talking about Eddie in that way.Whether he's right or not, let Eddie rest in peace for fucks sake.

Also the media needs to stop making generalizations about wrestling fans, as soon as they do, they're not worth listening to.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

I'm gonna impose my own ban on any mention of E**** G******** in any thread, hes gone, we just disgarce his memory the more we bring him up. Rest in peace means just that

as for this guy, so what? I got called worse at high school. he just wants attention and i don't wanna give him anymore.

We love wrestling, if other people don't fine. Ignore them and live and let live

[ClockShot]

Colin Cowherd. Man I should go knock on this guy's door seeing on how he's in my home state of CT. and give him a piece of my mind. Time to flood the ESPN complaint lines again folks. But come on, if you're gonna rip on Vinne Mac, then atleast bring up the XFL. Leave the fans and wrestlers out. That's my two cents.

[Londoner]

I'm gonna impose my own ban on any mention of E**** G******** in any thread, hes gone, we just disgarce his memory the more we bring him up. Rest in peace means just that



:lol: @you thinking you can impose a ban on something when you only have 5 posts.:rofl:

Anyhow, its not disrespectful to Eddie if we mention him in a positive way, its just jerks like this guy on the radio that need to shut the fuck up about him.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

I was just showing i have the grapefruits to hang with you elites.

I'm a firm believer in the idea that the more you say how great something was the more you take away meaning from it. Like if you say to your girlfriend 'I love you' every ten seconds, not only are you sickening, it doesn't mean as much anymore.

we all know Eddie was great, and will be missed but i'm so sick of him being used in the WWE, and the Eddie chants. The guy needs peace and we need to move on and cherish the memories we have.

[Londoner]

Yeah i agree that the Eddie chants need to stop now, they've gone on long enough.But its not like we go on about Eddie all the time here.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

That'll help my ban then ;)

[The One]

Do you think George Washington is toiling because he is on the nickle and one dollar bill. I mean we see his image and reflection on how awesome he is all the time. There are national holidays were the goal is for you to think about how incredible he was for us. Does that mean his soul isn't resting in peace? I am fairly certain that in the afterlife, you realise what some radio guys says about you is far less important then realising millions of people were personally touched by your work. His soul is peacful and will remain such, and I doubt anything we fans or anti-fans do will bother that.

[Londoner]

That's not the point though the one, it was mentioned earlier that his Radio show seems to have a lot of listeners, so saying such things infront of a large audience doesnt give a good impression about Eddie.

[Kane Knight]

That's not the point though the one, it was mentioned earlier that his Radio show seems to have a lot of listeners, so saying such things infront of a large audience doesnt give a good impression about Eddie.

And all you do by pissing and moaning about it is give him more attention, REWARDING him for taking the low road AGAIN.

[PureHatred]

The reactions by some people in this thread pretty much prove his point: wrestling fans have a hard time having an objective discussion about steroid abuse, especially when you bring up their favorite guys.

Here, I'll take out the inflammatory rhetoric he uses to get people to call his show and translate what he said a few months ago after Eddie died:

"Boy, it seems like every few months a wreslter dies young because of something having to do with drug or steroid abuse. That can't be a coincidence. There must be something wrong with the business. Somebody should look into that."

And a few days ago::

"Dam, wrestlers sure are big. Much bigger than NFL athletes. if congress is going to look into bnaseball and football, maybe they should also look into pro-wrestling. Because, damn, they sure are big."

Now, if you can get through all that without getting emotionally scarred, I think everyone will see that he's making some legit points.

[Kane Knight]

I don't think anyone was crying because he said "somebody shoudl look into that." I'd be willing to bet money they were reacting to the rhetoric.

So isn't your scathing insight kind of moot?

"Hey, if I take out all the offensive points, you have no reason to take offense. This proves the point that wrestling fans can't have an intellectual discussion on the issue of steroids, even though one wasn't really presented."

[PureHatred]

I don't think most of the people who responded to this thread even bothered to try to read what was said. So your right, they responded to the rhetoric.

But the first time he brought up Eddie a few months back, all he did was bring up the possibility that Eddie's death had something to do with his past drug abuse and the fact that a lot of wrestlers die of similar causes and wrestling fans responded by shutting down ESPN radio. So maybe if there had been more discussion initially than he wouldn't have started the discussion by completely trashing all wrestling fans this time.

Everyone on this board -especially THIS board - has used rhetoric to trash one aspect of the product or another. Christ, people are regularly flamed on this board with worse terms than 'booger eater.' We could probably do a search in any thread Vermaat started and find worse things said to him.

So while it would be easy to dismiss everything he said entirely because of the way he said it, I think it would be far more useful to actually listen to what he was saying: Eddie's death was fucked up. A lot of wrestlers seem to die in the same way. Maybe someone (Congress, since they're looking anyway) should look into the steroid problem in wrestling.

I think its far more useful to look at that issue instead of 'boycotting every post that has Eddie's name in it' or calling him a nobody than no one listens to anyway and sending ESPN an e-mail.

[Kane Knight]

Vermaat is anathema to reasonable discussion. You're digging.

[Kane Knight]

Also, Cowherd, among other things, asked "who cares that [eddie] died" and criticised it for not being newsworthy at all.

So are you lying, or simply glossing over the fact that he didn't merely address a reasonable discussion topic?

[Kane Knight]

Seriously.

Because while I understand that he may not be a fan of fake wrestling or Eddie Gurerro or any of that shit, asking "who cares" if someone died is far beyond simply saying we need to look into why so many wrestlers drop dead so young.

In fact, several people brought up the notion that this needed to be looked at and it was no wonder he died. Several people including folks on here, the online community in general, etc.

Cowherd, on the other hand, took it a step further. Kind of the difference between the stance that "America's foreign policy has lead to inevitable attacks against their own citizens" and Cat Stevens' line that the folks who died on 9-11 deserved it because they're Americans.

One is a discussion point, the other is inflammatory bullshit.

While I think people pissing and moaning about him only serves to reward him for his actions, I think trying to misrepresent what he said is not only horribly dishonest, it quite frankly is hypocritical that you would do that, while accusing people of not actually listening to what he's saying (And thus responding to the rhetoric), not to mention complaining abou the unreasonable reaction when your reaction (Falsification) is clearly not reasonable.

[PureHatred]

Also, Cowherd, among other things, asked "who cares that [eddie] died" and criticised it for not being newsworthy at all.

So are you lying, or simply glossing over the fact that he didn't merely address a reasonable discussion topic?

I'm not lying. And I realize that he put it that way. But he was also saying it wasn't newsworthy because it seem slike every year a wrestler seems to die in his hotel room due to overdoes/heart failure/suicide, etc. He said it wasn't noteworthy because it happens all the time.

He also compared wrestling to the porn industry because it seems like in both, having some sort of emotional issue or chemical dependency was almost a prerequisite. And like with wrestlers, it seems like just about every month you can find a story of a porn star dying of dubious causes. Its not a news item for porn stars m why should it be with wrestlers?

Not the most human way of putting things, but he had a point. It seems like every year a handful of wreslters die due to some shady circumstances. He's a non-fan coming form the viewpoints of most media outlets that wrestling is a white trash sport with performers that are one step below doing softcore porn on Cinemax. he';s saying things in order to stir upa shit-storm.

But in all that outrage I think fans lost sight of the fact that he made some good points: Wrestling has a problem. Wrestler obviously don't lead the healthiest lives. Wrestlers seem to have a suspiciosly short lifespan. Maybe someone should look into steroids in wrestling.

If the onyl issue we're talking about is HOW he stated his case, then fine, he used inflammatory terms in order to generate a response. But I wasn't reading a lot of "Well, he's as asshole, but I get his point" responses. Not this time. Not before.

[PureHatred]

Seriously.

Because while I understand that he may not be a fan of fake wrestling or Eddie Gurerro or any of that shit, asking "who cares" if someone died is far beyond simply saying we need to look into why so many wrestlers drop dead so young.

In fact, several people brought up the notion that this needed to be looked at and it was no wonder he died. Several people including folks on here, the online community in general, etc.

Cowherd, on the other hand, took it a step further. Kind of the difference between the stance that "America's foreign policy has lead to inevitable attacks against their own citizens" and Cat Stevens' line that the folks who died on 9-11 deserved it because they're Americans.

One is a discussion point, the other is inflammatory bullshit.

While I think people pissing and moaning about him only serves to reward him for his actions, I think trying to misrepresent what he said is not only horribly dishonest, it quite frankly is hypocritical that you would do that, while accusing people of not actually listening to what he's saying (And thus responding to the rhetoric), not to mention complaining abou the unreasonable reaction when your reaction (Falsification) is clearly not reasonable.


I'm not trying to misrepresent what he said. But I actually heard that show. And the way he said it and the way it came off when he was quoted were really different. He still sounded like an asshole. But one was him driving home the point that wrestlers, for what he called 'obvious' reasons, have short life spans. And the other made it seem like he was taking personal shots at Eddie himself.

He was attacking the industry. And on that subject it deserves to be attacked.

[weather vane]

Who gives a fuck about this guy? Making fun of wrestling fans is way too easy. He isn't doing anything special.

[Kane Knight]

You may not be trying to, but you are misrepresenting what he said, and now you're backtracking to justify what he said that didn't fit within the original purview.

[PureHatred]

I would have to kind of go over the whole show and how that whole "Who cares?" comment came about to explain what I meant. I'm going to get back to this.

[Savio]

He pursued a Bachelor of Arts degree in Radio and Television from Eastern Washington University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Washington_University) before dropping out prior to graduation. Although he has claimed to have graduated from EWU, it has been confirmed on air by his staff that he never earned a degree. It is thought by many that Cowherd attended USC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California) due to his obsession with the institution. Accordingly, listeners will note his strongly anti-intellectual rants and disdain for people he considers too sophisticated or overly educated (e-mailers with an .edu suffix, for example, are ridiculed) or who are pursuing careers that are not business-related.

[Schoenauer]

Hmmm... what caused the bastard to drop out?

[Pinnacle Charisma]

I thought this was going to about some radio host ripping into the boogyman from the use of the word ""Boogereaters

[TerranRich]

Who gives a fuck about this guy? Making fun of wrestling fans is way too easy. He isn't doing anything special.
Bingo. WGASA? (Who Gives A Shit Anyway?) So he's making fun of wrestling fans. Wow, that's creative and tough to do.

Here, let me help: Wrestling fans are poo poo heads and mama's boys! See? That was already more original than that Cow Herd guy.

[Batsu]

Who gives a crap about Colin Cowherd?
Other than the colon that birthed him?

[Kane Knight]

I think it says something about wrestling that this gets such attention. I mean, wrestling really isn't as "niche" a market as we often assume.

[Londoner]

And all you do by pissing and moaning about it is give him more attention, REWARDING him for taking the low road AGAIN.

Er, why did you single me out here?I wasn't complaining, i was just explaining the situation to someone else in this thread and how i see it.I don't think explaining my opinion on an internet forum gives him that much attention.:roll:

And by the way, yes i did read it all.

[Kane Knight]

You do know that "you can refer to one or more people, right?

did I say anything that singles you out specifically, or...

[Londoner]

Alright forget the singling me out bit, maybe that's just me over-reacting a bit there.

[Kane Knight]

It's more a "Attention gives them what they want" thing.

Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh get more attention from the side they piss off, than the folks they actually appeal to.

In this case, he's appealing to people for more attention, like the last time. And if wrestling fans react, it creates the controversy he was looking for.

Of course, PH was still wrong but... ;)

[Londoner]

I wasn't really reacting to what he was saying, i only pointed out that he reached a new low by commenting on Eddie, and well, if thats what he was trying to achieve then fair enough.I wouldn't say that's anything to be proud of though.I'm not pissed off btw, i can say my opinion without being pissed off you know.

[Kane Knight]

Again, name the part of the post where I singled you out.

[Londoner]

Again, look at the post where i said 'forget it, i was just over-reacting'.