Official Ultimate Fighter 3 thread (Spoilers, duh)

[Nark Order]

This season has been going pretty damned strong so far. I'm still not sure how Ortiz and Shamrock have been able to stand each other so far. Right now the teams are tied. Alot of people couldn't believe Noah beating Jesse but I knew it was gonna happen the whole time (As I won $20 off of the fight with my friends). I could tell by looking at the two who was going to win. Jesse is really spontaneous and doesn't think things through alot. Noah seemed more like the guy that would basically stay nuetral until a perfect opportunity was given to him. That's exactly what happened. Noah was getting pounded for awhile but kept calm, kept his composure, waited for his spot, found it, and then submitted Jesse rather easily. Awesome fight. I love finishes like that.

Anyways... what have you al thought of the season so far?

[Crimson]

Ortiz loves the deaf kid. His work ethic n such. We are getting to know the fighters a lot more this season without the competitions.

[Rob]

Awesome so far. Apparently only gonna get better. Especially with the Brits holding it up. And at least one of them is gonna be there for a long time.

[Blitz]

Good stuff so far. I'm liking Noah.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

They couldn't have asked for a better result than that Noah/Jesse fight. Jesse was just a huge prick who got his mouth shut. Noah just listened to his coach and did what he was supposed to do.

[Crimson]

Awesome so far. Apparently only gonna get better. Especially with the Brits holding it up. And at least one of them is gonna be there for a long time.

How do you know you get the spoilers somewhere:rant:
My bet would be Michael Bisping

[Rob]

How do you know you get the spoilers somewhere:rant:
My bet would be Michael Bisping

I was told by someone. I'm not spoiling it for anyone who doesn't wanna know so PM me if you do.

[carrythezero]

Good season so far, can't really tell how it matches up to the other two quite yet though. I liked Season 1 better than I did Season 2 for sure though. This season does look promising however. BTW, I hope Noah loses his next fight.

[Nark Order]

Noah reminds me of a really buff, less wierd Luke Cummo.

[Savio]

I'm quite disapointed they don't do challenges now.

[Nark Order]

I like it and I hate it. The challenges were entertaining but I kinda like this whole "Winner chooses next fight" deal. There is finally an added bonus to the team for members winning.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Noah isn't really a nerd. He just wears glasses, and isn't a prick.

I seriously want someone to stomp Tait Fletcher's face in. He's such a fucking homo.

[Blitz]

I like the fact that they spend the whole episode building up to the fight now, instead of like 10 minutes.

[carrythezero]

Noah isn't really a nerd. He just wears glasses, and isn't a prick.

I seriously want someone to stomp Tait Fletcher's face in. He's such a fucking homo.

I agree, someone needs to stomp Fletcher. Can't stand looking at the guy.

[Kris P Lettus]

It's been aiight..

I like the deaf kid and the black guy that's missing teeth..

[Savio]

Who's fletcher? what did he do?

[McDoogle]

Ortiz and Shamrock are seriously the best showmen in the world. They play off each other like fucking magic. This season is fucking great.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Who's fletcher? what did he do?

The guy with the goatee, and the tatoos who gets so much fucking airtime it makes me sick. He also wears a stupid faggoty hat that makes me wanna watch him get stomped. He kicked Noah's ball into the garden and wouldn't get it because he's a prick.

[Savio]

Oh yeah I hope noah kicks his ass.

[YOUR Hero]

Hughes takes on Gracie? (bot off topic here)

[YOUR Hero]

Tito chose the next fight. He chose the Brit, Ross from Shamrock's team and from his team he chose Kendall. Big height advantage for Kendall. Interesting how they've got so much more personal info this season. I love it. Fight is 40 minutes from now :D Can't wait.

[YOUR Hero]

This Ross guy needs to cut weight for the next day and he's ignoring his trammates. LOL, I hope this guys isn't going to miss the weigh in like that jackass last year.

[Blitz]

Goddamn. Kendall fucked him up.

[YOUR Hero]

Beat him good. Rob, you're down to 1 Brit.

[Blitz]

I hope Ed Herman gets choked out sometime soon.

[Nark Order]

Good god, that wasn't even close. Kendall destroyed him. Ross made way too many mistakes for it even to be a fair fight. He didn't listen to his corner at all (except for a weak kidney punch), and gave up his back twice. In short, Ross got fucked up.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Kendall is a damned good fighter. Laid waste to Ross. It's a shame Ross is done though, he was a good personality.

Man, that team dagger shit has to stop lol. SERIOUSLY

I like Rory Singer, probably because he trains with Forrest Griffin, and you can tell he doesn't take himself too seriously.

Ed Herman is hilarious. I like how Tito was all "fuck I can't believe I didn't choose this kid, meh...now I'm gonna fuck with him every week".

This season= wayyyyyy better than last. Every fight has had a finish.

[McLegend]

Shamrock just looks like a terrible coach.

[Nark Order]

Hopefully this dagger alliance won't screw too many people over.

[Loose Cannon]

Noah isn't really a nerd. He just wears glasses, and isn't a prick.

I seriously want someone to stomp Tait Fletcher's face in. He's such a fucking homo.

haha, I think we all want to stomp his face in. That stupid ass goatee is ridiculous.

[Savio]

I hope Royce gets his ass beat at UFC 60. that dude was cheap in the early days.

[Nark Order]

Oh yeah, I predict Royce is gonna get handled. Hughes won't get caught in any stupid submissions.

[Innovator]

Shamrock just looks like a terrible coach.Dude he's trained the Lion's Den back in the day, he knows what he's doing

Also Hughes is going to destroy Gracie.

[McLegend]

He might know what he's doing, but that might not be the best thing. Sure doesn't look like it btw.

[YOUR Hero]

I hope Gracie beats Hughes. I don't consider Gracie to have been cheap in the early days of UFC, he was an innovator. He changed the way MMA was fought, in fact the way it's still fought. I mean shit, back in the day he was beating guys with arm locks and the announcers didn't even understand why his opponents were tapping out. It wasn't until replays that they'd see him cinching in the arm bar or whatever. Hughes is a big mouth to boot.

Tito is coming off as a way better person than I thought he was. It's not just the fighters that you learn about, but these two coaches.

I hope Shamrock's reason for no showing on the next episode is legit and not just him not showing up.

[Savio]

I think Kimo woulda beat gracies ass if Gracie wasn't pulling on his hair.

[weather vane]

Kimo is a bum.

[YOUR Hero]

not against the rules.

[YOUR Hero]

not to mention that in the early days, these guys would fight 3-4 times in an event to be crowned UFC champ.

[Rob]

Beat him good. Rob, you're down to 1 Brit.

I know. And he happens to be the favourite for the show with a MMA 10-0 record :D

As for the show, I think Ross was too over confident in his KO power which is something else to be fair. Probably the strongest and fastest hands on the show. His submission skills are piss poor. 4 out of 5 last losses before the show by submission.

I put a hell of a lot of the blame on Ken Shamrock. The guy is a fucking disgrace. How can he give his fighters so much rest, tell Ross his ground game sucks and then know he is gonna be fighting and not teach him a single submission attempt or escape? His team mates tried to do more to help Ross than he did. His attitude on the show has been absolutely piss poor. The fact he doesn't show up for training, nor send any of his staff either is mind blowing. And he has the nerve to question Tito Ortiz's attitude? Ortiz never pulled off anything this unprofessional. Anything he never did was to hype his fights.

I was dying for Ortiz to smash his face in come July but now it's Griffin vs. Shamrock on that show so that will probably be the last we ever see of Slamcock. Not a day too soon either.

Can wait for next weeks show. Bisping should bash that deaf cunt into the floor. :D

[Rob]

Tito is coming off as a way better person than I thought he was. It's not just the fighters that you learn about, but these two coaches.

I hope Shamrock's reason for no showing on the next episode is legit and not just him not showing up.

That's because Tito's rep is all from hype on PPV shows. He has never acted unprofessional in public (aside from the night he got drunk in London and got a couple of punches from Lee Murray). They edit shows well. You'd think Shamrock was a saint before now.

Shamrock's excuse might be legit next week. Things happen so that's cool. What isn't cool though is why the 2 other guys didn't show up or why nobody told the guys training was cancelled and that they had to take it into their own hands. Luckily they are smart enough to do so. Ortiz must be lapping it up after this.

[YOUR Hero]

wait. Ortiz and Shamrock aren't fighting each other now?

[Rob]

Nope. Ortiz can't get back to 100% for July because of his knee tears. The winner of Shamrock vs. Griffin will fight Ortiz but I'd strongly favour Griffin to KO Shamrock now. I'm pretty sure it's the last fight on Ken's deal too.

[YOUR Hero]

What isn't cool though is why the 2 other guys didn't show up or why nobody told the guys training was cancelled[sic] and that they had to take it into their own hands.
precisely

[Nark Order]

I'm psyched for tonight. I hope we get to see Tait get his ass handed to him.

[Rob]

I hope Solomon trips over his own feet and has to pull out the show. I fucking hate Team Dagger with a vengeance already. And with any luck, we'll see Michael Bisping get a win back for us Brits :D

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I really want to see Michael Bisping fight :'(

[Loose Cannon]

haha, they are turning Tito babyface and Shamrock heel in this.

They are going to edit shit and make it seem like Ken doesn't really care about anything. lol.

[Blitz]

Ken is certainly coming off like a shitty coach.

And no doubt Bisping's gonna fuck Kristian up.

[Blitz]

Wow. Literally a bloodbath.

[McLegend]

That was an asskicking

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Man, he fucked him up every which way possible. He is a serious motherfucker, there is no doubt about that.

I think Bisping'll win the contract. If he does, the ufc's got a new helluvan exciting fighter on their hands.

[McLegend]

Bisping is awsome. If I could invest money in people I would put all my money on him.

He's a star in the making.

[weather vane]

Yeah he is going to be good.

[Nark Order]

Kristian really didn't do as bad as they made it out to seem. He got two key takedowns on Bisping, who is supposedly a great wrestler. The main thing Kristian had working against him was his conditioning.

An impressive win by Bisping nonetheless.

[weather vane]

He got pumped pretty bad.

[Rob]

Man, he fucked him up every which way possible. He is a serious motherfucker, there is no doubt about that.

I think Bisping'll win the contract. If he does, the ufc's got a new helluvan exciting fighter on their hands.

Quick note. In the Observer last week, Meltzer said at the last PPV, people were trying to get autographs from George St. Pierre and then Bisping walked by and like 30 people ran away from GSP and went to Bisping :lol:


Kristian really didn't do as bad as they made it out to seem. He got two key takedowns on Bisping, who is supposedly a great wrestler. The main thing Kristian had working against him was his conditioning.

An impressive win by Bisping nonetheless.

You can thank Kenny Scamrock for his conditioning. Fucking rest from training every other session. What is he thinking?

I don't remember hearing anything special about Bisping's wrestling.

[YOUR Hero]

Missed the latest episode. Bloody work.

[Rob]

Missed the latest episode. Bloody work.

Download that shit. It was probably the best show to date.

[Loose Cannon]

My favorite is Matt so far. The kid just goes in there and does what he's suppossed to do. I know he's probably gonna go down and there's gonna be some touching moment when he leaves.

[Rob]

My favorite is Matt so far. The kid just goes in there and does what he's suppossed to do. I know he's probably gonna go down and there's gonna be some touching moment when he leaves.

Yeah Bisping bashes the life out of him :lol:

I like him to though :-\ Just being super supportive of the Brit.

[YOUR Hero]

Download that shit. It was probably the best show to date.

I have a dodgy puta. I should be able to catch the reply through.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah Bisping bashes the life out of him :lol:

I like him to though :-\ Just being super supportive of the Brit.

Oh, so they end up fighting in the semis? I really do want Bisping too assfuck him lol, like I like Matt and everything, but i dunno, Bisping is the best character that show has produced, and his standup is DIRTY

[Rob]

Don't know if Matt makes it past the first round to be honest. Be shocked if he didn't though.

[Nark Order]

Everyone here is busting their load prematurely over Bisping. He's good, he won his fight and all... but damn, I really didn't think he was THAT great. I expect Matt to take him out quite easily to tell the truth.

[Loose Cannon]

I wanna see that Ed Herman guy go down real quick

[Crimson]

Don't know if Matt makes it past the first round to be honest. Be shocked if he didn't though.


lol...are those hints to the spoilers you know about?

Bisping had a good fight ..it'll be hard to take him out. I think Grove or maybe Herman will win the middleweight, but Herman seems like a hothead who can get careless.

And either Shamrock's coaching sucks or the editing is making it seem that way...but the fighters have been complaining too so..

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Everyone here is busting their load prematurely over Bisping. He's good, he won his fight and all... but damn, I really didn't think he was THAT great. I expect Matt to take him out quite easily to tell the truth.

Just because you can wrestle doesn't mean shit. He'll be able to take Bisping to the ground, but Bisping could easily submit him, or ko him standing. The only way Matt Hammil walks over Bisping is via lay and pray.

[YOUR Hero]

And either Shamrock's coaching sucks or the editing is making it seem that way...but the fighters have been complaining too so..

thats the way I'm reading into it too.

[Savio]

I missed his reason for being away what was it?

[AareDub]

I missed his reason for being away what was it?

He wasn't really away. It's just that during their actual practice time, they didn't do anything. That might've been where they watched UFC tapes, but I can't remember. So anyway, they got back to the house and decided to do their own workout.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I heard Matt Hamill's wrestling style is not like Mark Coleman or even Kevin Randleman, apparently he is known for devestating and injuring his opponents as opposed to doing just takedowns and lay and praying. I want to see this to be honest.

[Blitz]

Fuck, I hope Rory destroys Solomon. Can't stand him.

[Dragon]

LOL, that dagger shit is ridiculous.

[RP]

rofl Rory kicked his ass.

[Blitz]

ROFL "He won?"

[Blitz]

This show is making Shamrock look like the worst coach in the world.

[McLegend]

Great show tonight

[Crimson]

So will the light go up in Shamrock's head finally...GET YOUR TEAM SOME FUCKIN CARDIO TRAINING. Solomon woulda tore Rory up if they were in opposite teams. But looks like Herman has an easy opponent, but who knows...he is afterall, in Shamrock's team.

[Nark Order]

rofl Rory kicked his ass.

No, he won. There is a difference. He got handled until Soloman gassed out.

God damn Shamrock, get those guys running some laps.

[weather vane]

Shamrock is a terrible coach and will just get pumped by Forrest.

[McLegend]

Shamrock and Tito is back on apparently

[weather vane]

RIGHT ON!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He showed good strategy. Tito was a great corner guy, just telling Rory to weather the storm. Because of that, when round 2 came, Rory was as fresh as how he started and Soloman was gassed to shit. At the end of the day, Solly boy got his ass handed to him, because he's a fuckwit.

TEAM DAGGER

[Dragon]

DAGGER

lol yeah, pretty funny that the guy talking the most shit got beaten by the nurse.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It's kind of wierd, Kendall seems like an alright guy...like he doesn't really annoy me that much, aside from that he is kind of efeminite in appearance...but that doesn't matter because he's beat my ass in about 3 seconds. I don't see why he's boys with that faggot Soloman...editing or no editting, Soloman just screams douchebag.

[Dragon]

Yeah, talking trash the whole time and then he gets his ass kicked.

Also, Tito Ortiz was great playing the mind games with Ed Herman.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The best part was that it was the quiet Jewboy who ktfoed him too :heart:

[RP]

It's kind of wierd, Kendall seems like an alright guy...like he doesn't really annoy me that much, aside from that he is kind of efeminite in appearance...but that doesn't matter because he's beat my ass in about 3 seconds. I don't see why he's boys with that faggot Soloman...editing or no editting, Soloman just screams douchebag.


Because he's black and people think they are cooler if they have a gangsta black friend.

[Rob]

No, he won. There is a difference. He got handled until Soloman gassed out.

God damn Shamrock, get those guys running some laps.

No, he got his arse kicked. When you get hit with the best kick of the fight (which wasn't that good) and punched in the face until you are out cold than that equals an arse kicking. Rory wasn't getting handled in the first round. He lost the round but there were maybe 2 decent punches and 1 slam. The wrestling was the shits, no real submission attempts (and Rory had a stupidly easy shot at an ankle lock or heel hook) and no good elbows. Solomon's boxing wasn't that good either. Low jabs? What the fuck?

Shamrock came off looking like a total jerkoff starting nothing with Tito. Why does he keep telling Tito to remember the last fight? Tito knows he whooped Kenny all over the shop. Kenny should remembering the mess his face was. He is in sooooo much trouble in July.

And Rory is a dead man when the semi's roll around. All the other middleweights who already fought would have killed him. Even Ross and he had zero ground game.

[RP]

Rory was in complete control to be honest. He got put on his back and went into textbook back defense. Solomon couldnt get a clean shot at all and wore himself down trying. Second round Rory caught him with a kick ( more like knee to the head ) and Solomon dropped. It wasnt really a fight to me.

[RP]

Soloman was probably right too. With more conditioning he probably could have won by just putting Rory on his back and punching.

[KillerWolf]

yeah, Soloman looked cracked after the first round. i didnt think Rory would knock him out, though. i expected Rory to win by submission later in the second round.

[KillerWolf]

so far, this season hasnt captivated me the way that season 2 did. i like the way that the fights are being set up. while it makes it so that all the good fights are likely to come later, at least this way everybody has to fight. the problem is that i dont really give a shit about any of the fighters. it's hard to care whether they win or lose. in the first season, i hated Leidman, and thought that Forest Griffin seemed pretty cool. in the second season, i was immediately able to get behind Rashad Evans, and also Luke Kumo was an interesting character. this season, i think maybe the remaining Brit seems to be a well rounded, tough fighter, but thats as far as it goes.

[Rob]

I disagree. This years show has been phenominal. Probably more characters last year but the heat on this show is friggin unbelievable. They are doing an amazing job of making you want to see guys fight.

[AareDub]

Wow, I have the complete opposite reaction. Season 2 was pretty bad IMO. The only one in the whole house that I liked was Jorge. Most of the fights weren't very good and most of the fighters weren't very entertaining.

Season 3 on the other hand has had my interest since the beginning, and there are several fighters I'd like to see progress. I also think that the Rory/Solomon fight is the first one this season to even hit Rd 2, heh.

[Nark Order]

This season has been fuckin awesome. Not one fight has gone down without an awesome finish. Caleb won by Stoppage. Noah won by armbar. Kendall destroyed Ross and won with a rear naked choke. Bisping put the hurt down on the N'Awlins dude. Rory knocked Soloman the fuck out.

I can't wait til Semis.

[Loose Cannon]

Matt man is getting some heat next week. can't wait.

[McLegend]

I love Michael Bisping

[Crimson]

I agree this season is a lot better than season 2. Tito's mind games, Shamrock's lame coaching, their hatred towards one another, and without the competitions they focus more of what's happening in the house, hense we get to know the fighters a little better and it makes the fights more intruiging.

[KillerWolf]

you bring up some good points. maybe this one is just going to take more time to grow on me.

[AareDub]

I fucking hate when an episode doesn't have a fight. They could've gotten past the Noah bs in like 10 mins, then still had the fight.

So, its gotta be Jesse coming back, right?

[Crimson]

what happened in tonites episode? someone recap.

[AareDub]

The guys were getting sick of Matt being cocky and going 100% in practice. Kendall rocked him in practice with a stiff kick, then Josh rocked him again with a stiff uppercut. They were saying its the first exposure he's had to a real MMA punch, but Matt thought he had a broken jaw. They took him to the hospital and everything checked out fine. He milked it and tried to get people to bring him sandwiches, etc.

Josh and Tait were picked to fight.

Noah got a letter from home. Somebody told his girlfriend (of 6 whole months) that he cheated on her, and he made a big deal about it like somebody died or something. He finally told the house what happened and they were like "meh, big deal." He demanded a phone call home, or he was leaving. Dana gave him the "do you wanna be fucking fighter" speech, then told him to pack his bags.

Noah is out, somebody else is coming back in... *end of episode*

[Crimson]

So no fight? Guess i picked the right episode to miss. They better show 2 fights next week.

So Noah left because of that..what a puss, Im guessing they bring back a light heavywheight..hope it's Jesse

[Blitz]

Shamrock continues to resemble the World's Shittiest Coach.

[Nark Order]

It's gotta be Jesse for sure.

[McLegend]

Last nights episode was great. Dana White was hilarious with his I don't give a fuck line.

[Nark Order]

Or Ross or even Soloman.

Prolly Jesse though

[RP]

Has teh possibility of someone from a previous season coming back been completely ruled out?

( I missed the last episode )

[Rob]

Noah is a total fanny. He left an oppotunity of a lifetime because some stupid bitch read something on the internet? She'll be reading that shit all the time on the net if he ever makes it. Well he won't make it now because he just burnt his bridge with the UFC.

Don't know any better but I'm convinced Kendell is making the finals now.

Solomon definately won't be back. You have to get clearance to fight after a KO and he just lost days before the last show.

[Apocolyptik1]

Has teh possibility of someone from a previous season coming back been completely ruled out?

( I missed the last episode )

I thought about this also after the show ended. It has to be a light heavyweight right? Noah was a light heavy, would only make sense to give Tito a light heavy back in return for one leaving. So if thats true, I think its going to be Jesse. I tried to find a list of the ultimate fighter season one light heavyweights, but I cant seem to find a decent site for it on the web. If it was an season one light heavy that would be awesome depending on who the person was.

I just dont think its going to be anything other then a light heavy, but someone could move up a weightclass easily from middle to light heavy. Solomon to me looked like he would be better fighting at a light heavy class for example, not saying its him because he just lost last week, but he is just an example of someone who could move up a weight class. That one episode of the ultimate fighter ross was 199 pounds before he went to bed and everyone was freakin out that he wasnt going to be able to drop the weight. Then he woke up, weighed in at 191, and everyone got off his case. Could be a middle weight that just put on some pounds.

[RP]

how did he lose 8 pounds in his sleep?

[Rob]

He didn't eat or drink anything that night where his body would retain the water. He obviously knows how to cut weight better than anyone else in the entire UFC since they are all starving themselves and sweating off anywhere from 12 to 25lbs.

[Nark Order]

Hot fight so far. 3rd round?

[Blitz]

Dunno. I hate Tate, but I think he won that.

[Nark Order]

wtf. Tait won that shit

[McLegend]

I'm glad Josh won, but yeah that should have went to a 3rd round.

[Crimson]

Agreed, neither one was impressive but it shoulda gone a 3rd round.

[Dragon]

Yeah, definitely seemed too close to decide like that without the third round.

[AareDub]

I had 20-18 for Tait. Josh seemed very ineffective for a large portion of the fight, Tait kept looking for submissions and takedowns. Josh landed some good shots and had some nice escapes, but I didn't see anything that convinced me to score a round for him.

[KillerWolf]

Tait won the fight hands down. i lost faith in the show after that decision. if it did go a third round, Josh would have been knocked out or submitted - or their would have been a stoppage.

now it is hard for me to get out of the habbit of scoring a fight like this: "who would have eventually won the fight?" but clearly, Tait would have won in a third round, and i think it is clear to most people that at least the second round was dominated by Tait, and if Josh won the first round, it was by a thin margin.

Josh was not impressive to me at all. i actually felt as though I could have taken him. he looked like what is called a fish. once the fight went to the ground he just sorta flops around. at best, he looked like a Tough Man Contest fighter - not an MMA fighter.

[Innovator]

First round was 10-9 Josh, Tait wasn't solid on the ground yet. Second round was 19-0 Tait but I could see an argument for 10-8.

I wanted a third round dammit

[Rob]

Tait won the fight hands down. i lost faith in the show after that decision. if it did go a third round, Josh would have been knocked out or submitted - or their would have been a stoppage.

now it is hard for me to get out of the habbit of scoring a fight like this: "who would have eventually won the fight?" but clearly, Tait would have won in a third round, and i think it is clear to most people that at least the second round was dominated by Tait, and if Josh won the first round, it was by a thin margin.

Josh was not impressive to me at all. i actually felt as though I could have taken him. he looked like what is called a fish. once the fight went to the ground he just sorta flops around. at best, he looked like a Tough Man Contest fighter - not an MMA fighter.

You just said Tait won hands down and yet said Josh won the first round and Tait won the second. How the hell does that work out? Tait didn't win hands down anyway. It was a close fight and he lost a decision. Personally I thought he won at first glance and on review, I had it a draw. And you can't say Tait would have definately won the 3rd round because a single shot can change a fight and Josh was more likely to get that shot (not saying he would have though).



First round was 10-9 Josh, Tait wasn't solid on the ground yet. Second round was 19-0 Tait but I could see an argument for 10-8.

I wanted a third round dammit

Out of interest, what arguement could you have seen for a 10-8 round to Tait? To get a 10-8, you have to dominate the round and be in a extremely good position to finish the fight and Tait didn't do that.

[Nark Order]

Naw, Tait pushed the action. Lots of knee shots, lots of submission attempts, even when he was dog tired he was still trying to finish the fight. Tait won in my eyes, no comparison. Bad call on judges part.

[Innovator]

Josh was tired and wasn't landing the shots he was in the first. When it went to the ground Tait was constantly going for submissions, and was a couple seconds away from making Josh tap to a couple of them. Josh was just getting pushed around the second round.

Again, that would be my argument, I wanted Josh to win

[Apocolyptik1]

I dont think the last fight had a clear winner and it should of gone to a 3rd round. They gave the fight to Josh because of the knockdown in the first, but I wouldnt of even considered it a knockdown. It looked like Tait slipped more then anything else.

But this is what happens when fighters dont finish, they leave it in the hands of the judges, and no one wants it to go that way. Both fighters need more training, especially more cardio work. Tait's submission work wasnt solid, but it was terrible either.

I just saw it as another fight with 2 average fighters. You put 2 people in the ring that arent well rounded and you get a lame fight. What I thought was the funniest thing was that they hyped the fight as "one of the best of the season" and it was not even close.

Lol at Killerwolf's comment of "I think I could have taken the guy". Some people must not understand that fighting professionally isnt something that just comes to you. You train at it, and while it didnt look like Josh had a lot of training coming into the fight, their is no way that you or anyone else on this website would be able to hang 1 round with anyone that has been on the ultimate fighter. Unless of course you are infact already a fighter in MMA, but I dont think anyone on here is. Killer, you would of taken a couple of jabs from the guy and not of wanted it to go on anymore.

[Crimson]

He'd probably pull a Whitehead and walk away from the fight all around the ring.

[AareDub]

I just saw it as another fight with 2 average fighters. You put 2 people in the ring that arent well rounded and you get a lame fight. What I thought was the funniest thing was that they hyped the fight as "one of the best of the season" and it was not even close.

Yea, I guess people don't understand that a close fight doesn't necessarily equal a good fight. Both fighters looked like complete amatuers. It was FAR from a good fight.

Unless of course you are infact already a fighter in MMA, but I dont think anyone on here is.

:wave: No professional fights yet, but nationally ranked NCAA wrestler now training in BJJ. Can't wait to get in a ring/cage.
(though, in regards to being able to take one of those 2, hell no. They would've kicked my 140lb ass)

[Innovator]

TUF 4 news on mmafighting.com





The Boston Herald is reporting that the fourth season of The Ultimate Fighter will premiere Thursday, August 17 on Spike TV.
Season 4 will follow 16 UFC veterans as they battle for a six-figure contract and a title shot for one middleweight and one welterweight.
The UFC will do away with coaches and place Randy Couture and Georges St. Pierre as "advisors and counsels."

[McLegend]

Danny is gonna get ass kicked. This is gonna be bad.

[Blitz]

Shamrock's daughter is hot.

[weather vane]

Danny is a bitch.

[Innovator]

Danny, you are not an ultimate fighter...you got your ass handed to you by a guy seemingly going at half speed

[Rob]

I predict now Kendall pisses this 185lbs division.

Ed did absolutely nothing to convince me he is anything special. His clinch looked weak, his ground and pound looked weak. Danny looked like he was lost in the headlights. Anyone else would have probably reversed Ed and pounded him. Ed wants to start worrying about Kendall and Kalib instead of trying to stir shit with Tito Ortiz. Ortiz would absolutely muller him and probably without breaking a sweat.

[Nark Order]

I don't know. It seemed to me maybe since he knew this wasn't going to be a very hard fight that he was trying to limit his chances of injury. Every blow was slow but it was hard and calculated. He was in control the entire fight (spare maybe the first punch). He knew everything Danny was going to do and had a counter for it. I'll bet he goes twice the speed and does triple the damage come semi-finals.

[Crimson]

Nah. If a guy was that good he woulda DESTROYED Danny. He wouldn't look avarage. Diego's ground n pound looks alot better than Ed's from what i saw.

[Rob]

Ed hit him with at least 50 shots to the face as well as everything else and Danny barely looked marked.

[McLegend]

I can't wait to see Matt fight tonight. I'm pumped.

[RP]

Matt is lighting him up

[AareDub]

That fight was disgusting. Both fighters were unbelievably sloppy. A more skilled fighter would've finished either of them off with no problem. Matt had Mike's back for several minutes during the fight and he stayed in pure wrestling mode. Mike has to be one of the worst fighters I've seen on the show to this point. No doubt in my mind that Bisping has the competition all wrapped up now.

[KillerWolf]

Mike has to be one of the worst fighters I've seen on the show to this point. No doubt in my mind that Bisping has the competition all wrapped up now.

[KillerWolf]

:lol: Mike fights like the character of "Roy" played by Micheal McDonald on MAD TV.

[Rob]

I seriously can't believe that Matt does not know any submission. There were like 10 oppotunities at least to put a rear naked choke on Mark and he blew it. How this fight went past 2 minutes is beyond me. He had a good jab but his defense is the shits and anyone else will punish him. Even with his wrestling, I'm not convinced he can beat anyone on the ground even in full mount ground and pound. He got in stupid submissions postions where others would have tapped him.

[Innovator]

I was screaming at my TV for a rear naked choke

[Crimson]

So the middleweight semi's look good, Kendall against either Kaleb or Ed...and then you have Rory, who looks like the weakest of the 4.

[Rob]

Still saying Kendall Groves and Michael Bisping to win it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I seriously can't believe that Matt does not know any submission. There were like 10 oppotunities at least to put a rear naked choke on Mark and he blew it. How this fight went past 2 minutes is beyond me. He had a good jab but his defense is the shits and anyone else will punish him. Even with his wrestling, I'm not convinced he can beat anyone on the ground even in full mount ground and pound. He got in stupid submissions postions where others would have tapped him.

Well Matt hadn't been training for even a year before the show, so it's unfair to expect skill out of him. The fact that he beat a guy with more experience, and who actually had a submission game says something. He's got heart, and that'll help him in years time when he's finally making way.

[Rob]

With his wrestling background, the first submission he should have learned was a rear naked choke. I see your point but he is trying to get into the big time now so there's no excuses.

[Innovator]

That fucking sucks for Matt, won a fight but can't continue. Buuuuut

Poiton vs. Bisping :love:

[Dragon]

Missed the show today, what happened?

[Blitz]

Matt Hamil can't continue with the competition, nor can Mike Nickels. Shamrock hustled Tito in a game of pool. A bunch of the old fighters came back for the night, and Dana asked both Tait and Kristian (who now has pink hair :wtf: ) if they wanted to replace Matt. Both declined, so they brought back Ross Pointon, who's gonna fight at 205 pounds.

They made the semi finals:
Jesse Forbes Vs Josh Haynes
Mike Bisping Vs Ross Pointon
Kalib Starnes Vs Kendall Grove
Rory Singer Vs Ed Herman

Kalib and Kendall had their fight, it was pretty even, but Kalib quit the fight in the third round because he said his rib was broken. Kendall advances.

Next week is Rory Vs Ed.

[Rob]

Missed the show today, what happened?

Immediately download this show. Or catch the replay or whatever.

Ross Pointon is a fucking legend. Kristian and Tate just buried themselves to Noah's level. Pussies. The British are holding it up again. :D

Next weeks show looks awesome too.

[McLegend]

If Bisping loses to Ross Pointon I will cry. He won't though.

[McLegend]

O yeah also next week TUF is on for two hours from 10-12.

[Crimson]

Are they gonna have 2 matches or what? Kaleb looked pretty good before he got gassed, I think he will be someone to look out for.

[Innovator]

What the fuck is wrong with this season?

If Dana offers you a second chance, you take the opportunity. He isn't gonna forget you passed on fighting anytime soon

[McLegend]

Are they gonna have 2 matches or what? Kaleb looked pretty good before he got gassed, I think he will be someone to look out for.
I would imagine they would have to have 2 fights in one of the hours.

[Blitz]

--It wasn't pushed last night, but the final two episodes of Ultimate Fighter are scheduled from 10 p.m. to midnight this coming Thursday, and the three remaining semifinal matches, Ed Herman vs. Rory Singer at 185, Mike Bisping knocking out Ross Pointon in the first round (I don't know this, but can't imagine anything else happening)
LOL

[Rob]

What the fuck is wrong with this season?

If Dana offers you a second chance, you take the opportunity. He isn't gonna forget you passed on fighting anytime soon

Bobby Southworth did less to piss off Dana and he didn't even get a shot.

[McLegend]

Bisping is fuckin Ross up tonight.

Also I think Jesse Forbes is going to beat the guy with the blue hair. I forget his name.

[Blitz]

Soooooo...is Spike dead for anyone else, or is it just my shitty cable provider?

[Innovator]

i love meathead pranks...they always escalate

[Blitz]

ROFL I hope Kendall gets killed, fucking shit disturber.

[weather vane]

Soooooo...is Spike dead for anyone else, or is it just my shitty cable provider?

Yes mine is completely fucked. I cannot see a thing rn.

[McLegend]

Yeah mine is fucked right now. Went out with 47 seconds left in the first round.

Better be back for Bisping's fight.

[Blitz]

That fucking knee!

Bisping :love:

[McLegend]

Bisping is my hero

[weather vane]

Kendall and Bisbing will be the winners.

[AareDub]

It's funny that the 2 Middleweight finalists were taller than the 2 Light Heavyweight finalists.

Also, that knee was f'ng amazing.

[Innovator]

Love the flying knee :love:

Bisping definitely got a wake up call with that first right that Ross connected.

And Kenny...Tito is gonna killllllll you

[weather vane]

Ken Shamrock is a complete tool.

[Crimson]

Pretty good matches in the finale. My predictions are still there! ( Kendall, and Bisping) . I think they will both win...Haynes has heart, the match with Bisping will probably go the distance so I see Bisping with a decision there. And Kendall will make Herman tap, but should be a good fight.

[KillerWolf]

^ naw. i predict Kendall gets the decision over Herman by superior striking and good take-down defense. Bisping will TKO Haynes in the first round.

[Rob]

Bisping will murder Haynes in the first round. I'll still back Kendall to beat Ed. They announced the card for the live show:

--Complete line-up for the 6/24 UFC show from Las Vegas, live on Spike with the Ultimate Fighter finals
TV matches
Kenny Florian vs. Sam Stout
Michael Bisping vs. Josh Haynes for the .light heavyweight contract
Ed Herman vs. Kendall Grove for the middleweight contract
Keith Jardine vs. Wilson Gouveia

Undercard off TV
Wes Combs vs. Mike Nickels
Matt Hamill vs. Jesse Forbes
Solomon Hutcherson vs. Mike Stine
Kalib Starnes vs. Danny Abbadi
Rory Singer vs. Ross Pointon

No Tait. No Noah. No Kristian. Good job burning that bridge guys! :y: Fucking idiots.

And I couldn't have been the only person laughing when Matt found out he wasn't fighting in the semi's.

[RP]

What happend to the deaf guy?

[Rob]

Matt Hamill beat Mike Nicholls in the first round but his body kinda shut down after it and he got taken to hospital and the doctors wouldn't release him for the tournament.

Dana needed a replacement for him. Noah quit the show so he was out. Mike Nicholls wanted to fight but had a broken nose so wasn't cleared. That left Tait and Kristian. Dana first offered Tait the fight and he refused immediately. Kristian was offered the fight and refused too. They were stuck until Dana has the fucking awesome idea of offering the fight to Ross Pointon who accepted practically before he was even asked. Oh and he accepted before he was told he would have to move up to 205lbs and he didn't care in the slighest.

Ross = LEGEND!!!

Matt came back this week and has no clue if he won his fight. Then when he was told he won, he wanted to know who he was fighting in the semi's. It was amazingly funny TV but still a tad sad.

[McLegend]

The banter between Ross and Bisping was classic. They should have their own TV show.

[Crimson]

I would say Bisping is up there with Forrest as coolest motherfuckers to win TUF

[Crimson]

What a fight..Herman came out impressive this time around, I thought he had Kendall a couple of times in the 1st round. I would say this fight was better than Forrest/Bonnar .

What's the deal with the nicknames...do they HAVE to have one? Young Hercules?? come onnn..when a fighter has a nickname it's because he had it from childhood or he's earned it in the ring...they shouldn't just let everyone have one. They are getting pretty lame.

[McLegend]

Yeah Kendel/Herman was a great fight. I argee with the judges about Kendell winning, and Ed did deserve a contract I thought.

[McLegend]

Also Bisping is the man

[Innovator]

Ed/Kendall was the ground equivalent of the Forrest/Stephan fight. Those guys kept trading submissions attempts, I had no idea who was gonna win. Great fight and both guys deserved contracts.

[Savio]

Yo if anyone can tell me when a repeat is on I'll give em a rep or 2.

[weather vane]

NOW

[Rob]

Great show. Someone tell Dave Youell that Rob "only gets 50% of his predictions right" Harvey picked the two winners of this show and is still 100% on predictions this year ;)