View Full Version : Even the internet hackers hate John Cena
KingofOldSchool
04-27-2006, 02:27 PM
John Cena’s MySpace page was hacked/and or shut down yesterday. Apparently if the page was deleted, the URL was quickly registered by a teenager out of California. WWE.com has since removed the link to Cena’s MySpace page from his Superstars profile on the official website. credit: rajahwwf.com
HaTeR
04-27-2006, 02:31 PM
Owned.
The One
04-27-2006, 02:31 PM
LOL. What a waste of time...
I think its all a ploy...
On last weeks "5 questions" he said he was going to be uploading more pictures of that Ironman Naturals competition he was in [Which caused the "Is that him or not?"].
How convenient the next week his site gets hacked ;)
LOL. What a waste of time...
Cena's blog or the hacking?
The One
04-27-2006, 04:06 PM
Cena's blog or the hacking?
Can't it be both?
KingofOldSchool
04-27-2006, 04:11 PM
Cena or the hacking?
Flair Wooo
04-27-2006, 04:12 PM
Ye all the little girls who used to go on his site were all crying an shit :D
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 05:00 PM
Cena's blog or the hacking?
:yes:
Volare
04-27-2006, 05:38 PM
blog or hacking who cares one less place cena is at :)
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 06:24 PM
What do they mean "even" the internet hackers?
Don't they know that John Cena is only hated by the smark community, a group of nerds who think it's "cool" to go against the grain?
Sadistic
04-27-2006, 06:30 PM
a group of nerds who think it's "cool" to go against the grain?
Isn't that group the cool hip hop listening 10 year old white kids trying to be black.....kind of reminds me of a certain wrestler..
Thechampishere!
04-27-2006, 06:36 PM
Cheers for the bad rep?
I Speak my mind ,and instantanously get Negative feedback.
F-U guys.
Why does this guy sound familiar? Who used to play the "speak my mind" card?
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 06:41 PM
Cheers for the bad rep?
I Speak my mind ,and instantanously get Negative feedback.
F-U guys.
I somehow doubt anyone gives a shit that you're speaking your mind...It's the total lack of content in your posts.
I somehow doubt anyone gives a shit that you're speaking your mind...It's the total lack of content in your posts.
And quality.
Londoner
04-27-2006, 06:46 PM
Cheers for the bad rep?
I Speak my mind ,and instantanously get Negative feedback.
F-U guys.
Don't expect too much positive rep when you're a fan of John Cena on a board full of Cena haters.I used to be a Cena fan back when he was good, but anyone who finds him entertaining now is viewed by me as retarded,or just doesn't have a true sense of what entertainment is.
That would explain your neg rep, as well as the fact you aren't that much of a good poster.Start getting positive rep by changing your username i would.
Don't expect too much positive rep when you're a fan of John Cena on a board full of Cena haters.I used to be a Cena fan back when he was good, but anyone who finds him entertaining now is viewed by me as retarded,or just doesn't have a true sense of what entertainment is.
That would explain your neg rep.Start getting positive rep by changing your username i would.
Actually, John Cena fans just never can make a clear reason for their choice on a pro wrestling level. It's always "he's a great wrestler" (bunch of bullshit) and "he lives his character, he's real" (also bullshit for the most part).
Personally I've been enjoying him more lately. I wouldn't call myself a fan, but I don't turn the TV off when he's on either.
Except on Monday. The main event was just too much for me to watch. Not Cena's fault, though. It was the fact that they put the Spirit Squad in the fucking main event.
UmbrellaCorporation
04-27-2006, 06:52 PM
Except on Monday. The main event was just too much for me to watch. Not Cena's fault, though. It was the fact that they put the Spirit Squad in the fucking main event.
I feel your pain. SS is pretty much the gayest thing I've seen in the last 5 years.
Londoner
04-27-2006, 06:52 PM
Lets be honest though, he's only entertaining because of the fans.I'll agree hes been more entertaining lately, but because of the fans mainly.Before everyone started booing him he wasn't putting any effort in and was just getting an easy ride to the top.I still hate him for getting that 'easy ride' without actually working for it.
Sadistic
04-27-2006, 06:57 PM
Lets get this clear, NO Cena fan likes Cena because of his "wrestling ability". His fans say thats why they like him but in reality they are just little rich white kids trying to be cool by being the hardcore gangsta that is a chain-gang member.
Lets get this clear, NO Cena fan likes Cena because of his "wrestling ability". His fans say thats why they like him but in reality they are just little rich white kids trying to be cool by being the hardcore gangsta that is a chain-gang member.
I said they never give a clear answer for their choice. Wrestling ability is always one of their answers, it doesn't mean they believe it.
Well, actually it probably does. They keep telling themselves he's a good wrestler and he becomes the yardstick for great wrestlers to them.
Londoner
04-27-2006, 07:01 PM
Lets get this clear, NO Cena fan likes Cena because of his "wrestling ability". His fans say thats why they like him but in reality they are just little rich white kids trying to be cool by being the hardcore gangsta that is a chain-gang member.
Or they're little girls who cry their eyes out over Cena's myspace being hacked.:yes:
Random Myspacer: OMG HE WAS HAXD!!1!! NOW I WONT KNOW WAT HE HAD FOR BREAKFAST! IM GONNA GO LISTEN TO MY CENA CDS AND CRY!11!1
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 07:14 PM
Actually, John Cena fans just never can make a clear reason for their choice on a pro wrestling level. It's always "he's a great wrestler" (bunch of bullshit) and "he lives his character, he's real" (also bullshit for the most part).
And defend themselves as though they are martyrs.
That's the crux of the matter, the fans are fanatic enough that they think if you are a "hater," which in Cena's case means thinking he's anything less than the Rock, Kurt Angle, Stone Cold and Jesus rolled into one neat package. They are generally already so predisposed to defensive that they tend to do one of two things:
Attack everyone who disagrees, or
Spew out mindless garbage.
Both are "only" speaking their minds, and neither are ever wrong, no matter how ill-founded.
Jonster
04-27-2006, 07:17 PM
I somehow doubt anyone gives a shit that you're speaking your mind...It's the total lack of content in your posts.
I generally get away with it :$
And defend themselves as though they are martyrs.
That's the crux of the matter, the fans are fanatic enough that they think if you are a "hater," which in Cena's case means thinking he's anything less than the Rock, Kurt Angle, Stone Cold and Jesus rolled into one neat package. They are generally already so predisposed to defensive that they tend to do one of two things:
Attack everyone who disagrees, or
Spew out mindless garbage.
Both are "only" speaking their minds, and neither are ever wrong, no matter how ill-founded.
I can see the appeal of Cena for a first time wrestling watcher. He's "in your face" (even though you can't see him) and he's funny in an extremely immature way.
Thing is, once you've watched for a while, seen a few of the other comedy character, it should hit you that Cena is basically a starter gimmick that got huge.
Sure, a gangster rapper (from this generation) is fairly orginal. However, his gimmick is like the Spirit Squad or Matt Striker. He's in a gimmick that should have been left in 2004.
You think Striker or the SS will get huge in their current gimmicks? Fuck no. It's their stepping stone in the big time. If they get over, they'll be given bigger and better gimmicks. Or at least have a drastically changed for the better gimmick.
Cena is in the same gimmick since what, 2002? Sure, it's changed, but they changed it completely incorrectly.
Can someone get over with the same basic starter (very gimmicky) gimmick? Sure, it's been proven. Taker is the biggest example I can think of. But there were enough turns in his character to keep it fresh.
You can only go so far with an immature rapper gimmick before it starts to go down. Obviously, Cena's limit was mid-2005 (and I'm being generous). He should have had a cross of his ruthless aggression gimmick and the rapping gimmick by that time.
Pinnacle Charisma
04-27-2006, 07:32 PM
Cheers for the bad rep?
I Speak my mind ,and instantanously get Negative feedback.
F-U guys.
Just keep making or breaking it and you will get better.
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 07:35 PM
I generally get away with it :$
You have an evil monkey.
Pinnacle Charisma
04-27-2006, 07:35 PM
I dont think its the smarks and the internet hackers hate cena I think..........
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/onionwizard/everybodyhatesjohn.jpg
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 07:40 PM
I can see the appeal of Cena for a first time wrestling watcher. He's "in your face" (even though you can't see him) and he's funny in an extremely immature way.
Thing is, once you've watched for a while, seen a few of the other comedy character, it should hit you that Cena is basically a starter gimmick that got huge.
Sure, a gangster rapper (from this generation) is fairly orginal. However, his gimmick is like the Spirit Squad or Matt Striker. He's in a gimmick that should have been left in 2004.
You think Striker or the SS will get huge in their current gimmicks? Fuck no. It's their stepping stone in the big time. If they get over, they'll be given bigger and better gimmicks. Or at least have a drastically changed for the better gimmick.
Cena is in the same gimmick since what, 2002? Sure, it's changed, but they changed it completely incorrectly.
Can someone get over with the same basic starter (very gimmicky) gimmick? Sure, it's been proven. Taker is the biggest example I can think of. But there were enough turns in his character to keep it fresh.
You can only go so far with an immature rapper gimmick before it starts to go down. Obviously, Cena's limit was mid-2005 (and I'm being generous). He should have had a cross of his ruthless aggression gimmick and the rapping gimmick by that time.
If I tuned in for the first time, I'd likely wonder what this whitebread guy was doing trying to play hardcore and looking like Will Smith bleached his ass. I can't see him as "in your face." Seriously.
However, when the guy himself wants to be in this lame-ass gimmick, and management lets him, I guess that's where we're stuck. I have an immense respect for Cena's ability, but if he doesn't want to use any of it...
Sadistic
04-27-2006, 07:41 PM
Well, actually it probably does. They keep telling themselves he's a good wrestler and he becomes the yardstick for great wrestlers to them.
And that's why we hate them more than Cena himself.
Shaggy
04-27-2006, 07:50 PM
I dont know about the hacking and all....
but the guy that restarted the page from California....
was Arron Rift who runs the NoDq.com and the forums there...He sent me a message on myspace telling me that he did and turned it into a "We Hate John Cena" web page.....after doing he received tons of death threats from fans.....lol
If I tuned in for the first time, I'd likely wonder what this whitebread guy was doing trying to play hardcore and looking like Will Smith bleached his ass. I can't see him as "in your face." Seriously.
I was mainly referring to the redneck-type of crowd who are "into" hip hop. And Eminem fans. And wiggers themselves. And the youngin's. That makes up a fair portion of the viewing audience unfortunately. Or at least did i the Attitude era.
That's the funny thing about it. Kids were huge into the WWE(F) during the Attitude era, which was clearly produced for adults. I should know, I started to watch the WWF right around WM 13, the unoffical start of the Attitude era. I was about 8 or 9. Now the kids aren't as into the WWE as in the 90s and it's being geared towards them more and more.
My grandmother asks me if I would have let my kids or my cousins watch back then. My answer was fuck no, proving what watching that did to me. :shifty: Seriously though, back then and even some shit now I wouldn't let anyone under 13 watch unsupervised.
As far as Cena's talent goes, I've never meant that he's a bad wrestler. He's a bad wrestler in this gimmick.
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 07:55 PM
Unfortunately, reaching women and children doesn't exactly edear yourself to the largest base.
That's my point. They're always bragging about "we had the largest viewership of male 18-34 year olds last week, thank you", and yet you have pirates, grown men who eat worms and MALE (emphisised for the fact I could see the point of female) cheerleaders on TV.
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 08:09 PM
Note that's the largest number of 18-34s on a dead night, and not much of an indicator.
Put it in perspective: How many 18-34 year old guys really stay home?
The numbers are horribly low compared to...
That's why it never happens on Raw. And that's why it means so little, except for bragging rights. Hell, they didn't start saying that til the time they moved to Friday.
So it's not really a strong indicator of how the kids' stuff is over with adults and vicey versey. college and late high school were still their bread and butter, even in the previous era.
They've claimed it a few times on RAW while mentioning number one on Cable.
The whole point of my posts is that by using that as bragging rights is saying "hey, we produce for your demo, watch", but they clearly don't.
Of course I couldn't see them claiming "we won the 11-17 year old male demographic last week. Take that Spongebob!".
Kane Knight
04-27-2006, 08:25 PM
They've also claimed to be number one on cable on weeks where it wasn't true.
However, you're right, I forgot they've made the claim a couple times on Raw, which is a lot stronger an indication than Smackdown.
...It's also the show without pirates and boogeymen, and I don't think I've heard much about it since the Spirit Squad showed up.
TerranRich
04-28-2006, 12:08 AM
Interesting point about starter gimmicks. To me, starter gimmicks can be hot at first, and very interesting. Take Paul Burchill, for example. I'm loving his gimmick and current angle, as it has so much potential (especially in the UK at th emoment), and is very entertaining (I just love his look to the camera before his entrance, and the entrance itself, and his current belittling of William Regal).
However, all good things must (and usually do) come to an end, and Paul Burchill, once properly over, will get an even better, more natural gimmick. Maybe not a pirate, per se, but something along the lines, mixing in his amazing wrestling skills (as seen in many pre-WWE videos). He could probably end up having a cocky gimmick, self-assured in his skills and ability, and have a long winning streak, or something like that.
Anyway, my point is, starter gimmicks need to be renovated once every year or couple of years or so Cena's has been modified -- but instead of being renovated, it's been watered down and parodied.
Kane Knight
04-28-2006, 12:27 AM
Burchill's is easy to get out of, too. even when he's not pointing out that it's a gimmick, he plays it to the camera. It gets him over without trapping him (Eugene, Kane).
Cena got a great push out of a gimmick that wasrenovated though--Just for the worse.
It needed some changes, yes, but they went in all the wrong directions, and are sticking with the renovations without looking at the blueprints.
weather vane
04-28-2006, 12:48 AM
It has become the cool thing to hate Cena. Pretty brtl.
Jonster
04-28-2006, 05:22 AM
You have an evil monkey.
Good point well made.
Jonster
04-28-2006, 05:24 AM
It has become the cool thing to hate Cena. Pretty brtl.
To be honest, I didn't like Cena before he was Champion and couldn't care less about whether I'm being cool or not.
Kane Knight
04-28-2006, 08:46 AM
I'm having trouble seeing why it would be "cool" to hate Cena.
TerranRich
04-28-2006, 10:17 AM
Cena got a great push out of a gimmick that wasrenovated though--Just for the worse.
Hah, caught ya!
renovate - restore to a previous or better condition
You can't renovate something for the worse. ;)
Kane Knight
04-28-2006, 11:04 AM
Hah, caught ya!
renovate - restore to a previous or better condition
You can't renovate something for the worse. ;)
Yes you can. Within context, renovation is merely an attempt to make something better. If a building goes through renovations and then falls apart, it still went through renovations.
Not to mention, in their eyes, it was a change for the better.
Also, the second definition is to impart vigor...Which they did...:p
(I know you were joking, but I have this thing about people being retarded, and ya just tripped the reflex)
TerranRich
04-28-2006, 11:14 AM
I have this thing about people who think everybody but themselves are retarded. And don't correct my grammar. ;)
Renovation is not subjective. It either ends up being better, or it doesn't. Vince may have thought he was renovating Cena's gimmick, but then again, he thought the XFL was a good idea, too.
94 SVT Cobra
04-28-2006, 11:26 AM
I'm having trouble seeing why it would be "cool" to hate Cena.
Yea, im offically on the "walking stick" level, beacuse its so hard for me to see why its cool to hate him....i hated him since the danwn of time myself
Kane Knight
04-28-2006, 11:26 AM
I have this thing about people who think everybody but themselves are retarded. And don't correct my grammar. ;)
Renovation is not subjective. It either ends up being better, or it doesn't. Vince may have thought he was renovating Cena's gimmick, but then again, he thought the XFL was a good idea, too.
Renovation is an act of improvement, whether the end result is positive or not. You're right, it's not subjective, but you're the one trying to make it so.
Also, as mentioned, there is a definition which perfectly fits what happened with Cena. You're wrong, and the only reason I argued the first definition is simply the fact that your argument shows no understanding for the context of language beyond the strict dictionary definition (Which most folks who specialise in the English Language will tell you is quite often not the limits to the parameters of a word).
Kane Knight
04-28-2006, 11:50 AM
Yea, im offically on the "walking stick" level, beacuse its so hard for me to see why its cool to hate him....i hated him since the danwn of time myself
On the other hand, your mindless hate of John Cena is the other side of the spectrum. It's just as bad as the trendies who hate him because it's "cool" to do so (And I'm yet to see any evidence of this at all.
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