View Full Version : Someone seems to be back full time... (Slight Backlash spoiler)
Blitz
04-30-2006, 05:59 PM
From Observer:
--Jim Ross will be lead announcer for tonight's Backlash PPV, in the place of Joey Styles. The internal decision has been finalized for Ross to take over as lead announcer on Raw, either tomorrow, or within a few weeks.
McLegend
04-30-2006, 06:04 PM
Ha everyone is going to cry now except for me, because I love JR.
Anyway Styles will call ECW so whatever.
loopydate
04-30-2006, 06:05 PM
I suppose that makes sense if they're going to bring ECW back full-time.
But I loathe Jim Ross. Oh, well. All the people who hate the new "gimmicky" wrestlers like the Spirit Squad will be in luck, since JR will go out of his way to bury them in his play-by-play (the same way he's done for the last couple of generations of promising obnoxious heels).
Blitz
04-30-2006, 06:09 PM
Styles should call ECW alone, like the old days.
Unless, of course, they can get Cyrus or Gertner.
redoneja
04-30-2006, 06:10 PM
Eh, I don't really care. To me, no one will ever compare to Gorilla Monsoon.
I really don't care either way. JR may be horrible, but he can put guys over.
Styles should call ECW alone, like the old days.
Unless, of course, they can get Cyrus or Gertner.
I say go with either Heyman/Styles or Tazz/Styles if they don't let him do it alone, which I doubt they will.
Tazz/Styles would make a lot of sense, and if they do tape on SmackDown! days he could still do SmackDown! (even though they would probably replace him).
Hanso Amore
04-30-2006, 06:17 PM
WHy fucking hire Styles after 5 years of not being an announcer, just to dump him? How the fuck does Coach still have a job?
WHy fucking hire Styles after 5 years of not being an announcer, just to dump him? How the fuck does Coach still have a job?
They originally hired him for 24/7 and DVD voice overs.
KingofOldSchool
04-30-2006, 06:22 PM
Bring in Jesse Ventura, he's not doing anything nowadays.
redoneja
04-30-2006, 06:25 PM
WHy fucking hire Styles after 5 years of not being an announcer, just to dump him? How the fuck does Coach still have a job?
Styles has had some work as an announcer. I know he worked for Court Bauer's MLW promotion in Florida a couple years ago.
Bring in Jesse Ventura, he's not doing anything nowadays.
Isn't he living outside the US now?
Kane Knight
04-30-2006, 06:32 PM
I suppose that makes sense if they're going to bring ECW back full-time.
But I loathe Jim Ross. Oh, well. All the people who hate the new "gimmicky" wrestlers like the Spirit Squad will be in luck, since JR will go out of his way to bury them in his play-by-play (the same way he's done for the last couple of generations of promising obnoxious heels).
Loopy has done the impossible: Sold me on JR.
On the other hand, now he's got a scapegoat when the shitty gimmick tanks.
McLegend
04-30-2006, 06:33 PM
WHy fucking hire Styles after 5 years of not being an announcer, just to dump him? How the fuck does Coach still have a job?
Cause Coach is home grown talent
Nervous Ferret
04-30-2006, 06:36 PM
What is Coachs talent
What Would Kevin Do?
04-30-2006, 06:45 PM
Ugh. Granted, this may have happened when/if ECW came back, Raw just became a lot more unbearable now IMO.
KingofOldSchool
04-30-2006, 06:50 PM
What is Coachs talent
Being annoying.
Mr. JL
04-30-2006, 07:06 PM
Bring in Jesse Ventura, he's not doing anything nowadays.
I thought he was putting a wrestler in the White House in 2008.
Kane Knight
04-30-2006, 07:10 PM
What is Coachs talent
He has none, but really, when you're in WWE, you're called talent anyway.
happylad
04-30-2006, 07:13 PM
They dont need three commentators on Raw its pointless. Put Coach where he belongs back on heat or let him do coachs mailbag again. That was what his talent merited.
loopydate
04-30-2006, 07:53 PM
Loopy has done the impossible: Sold me on JR.
On the other hand, now he's got a scapegoat when the shitty gimmick tanks.
Nah. If it tanks, I'll just have to acknowledge that the gimmick just didn't have a wide enough appeal. Of course, since that won't happen...
But I sincerely hope that JR doesn't go out of his way to bury them vocally like he did La Resistance. Dupree and Grenier (and later Conway/Grenier) could have been the saviors of the RAW tag division the way that MNM have helped buoy the SD division.
But, since they were BAHGAWDUNAMERICANHEELS, JR rarely acknowledged their in-ring skills and instead talked about how everyone hated them and didn't respect them. So, shocker of shockers, fans took JR's cue that these guys must suck, and down down down the card they went.
Lance Storm shared a similar fate when JR played along with the "boring" chants that Austin started. "Hey, if JR says the guy is boring, why should I care about him?"
I'm not asking for him to act like the Spirit Squad are the best thing going on RAW (although I'd personally rank them just behind the Trish/Mickie angle), but if he could actually acknowledge the fact that they're talented performers, but he just doesn't like them, that's all I ask. None of this "How the hell can you like these guys, Coach?" garbage.
Nah. If it tanks, I'll just have to acknowledge that the gimmick just didn't have a wide enough appeal. Of course, since that won't happen...
But I sincerely hope that JR doesn't go out of his way to bury them vocally like he did La Resistance. Dupree and Grenier (and later Conway/Grenier) could have been the saviors of the RAW tag division the way that MNM have helped buoy the SD division.
But, since they were BAHGAWDUNAMERICANHEELS, JR rarely acknowledged their in-ring skills and instead talked about how everyone hated them and didn't respect them. So, shocker of shockers, fans took JR's cue that these guys must suck, and down down down the card they went.
Lance Storm shared a similar fate when JR played along with the "boring" chants that Austin started. "Hey, if JR says the guy is boring, why should I care about him?"
I'm not asking for him to act like the Spirit Squad are the best thing going on RAW (although I'd personally rank them just behind the Trish/Mickie angle), but if he could actually acknowledge the fact that they're talented performers, but he just doesn't like them, that's all I ask. None of this "How the hell can you like these guys, Coach?" garbage.
Uh, they're heels. JR is a face announcer. You expect a face announcer to put over the heels? Fans are supposed to hate the heels, not cheer them.
Kane Knight
04-30-2006, 08:21 PM
Uh, they're heels. JR is a face announcer. You expect a face announcer to put over the heels? Fans are supposed to hate the heels, not cheer them.
He's making excuses. :)
loopydate
04-30-2006, 08:40 PM
No, I'm not. Listen to the way JR talks about Triple H. You can tell that, even though he doesn't like the man's methods, he respects him as an athlete. Same way when Randy Orton was on RAW. JR didn't like him, but he praised him as a competitor. Or when Undertaker was a heel. Or the couple of times he's done interbrand stuff and talked about JBL.
And, yes, the announcer is supposed to put everyone over, face or heel. That's the mark of a good announcer. You can put someone over in terms of making them credible while still being "BAH GAWD WHAT A DESPICABLE ACT! DAMN HIM TO HELL!" But, from time to time, JR chooses not to and it pisses me off.
Listen to Michael Cole call a JBL match. He doesn't make him out to be a terrible wrestler. He just thinks that the things he does are terrible. Or listen to Joey Styles calling a pre-face Rob Van Dam match in ECW. Or, hell, go back to the mid-'90s when JR was still a competent PBP man and listen to him call Owen Hart matches.
No, I'm not. Listen to the way JR talks about Triple H. You can tell that, even though he doesn't like the man's methods, he respects him as an athlete. Same way when Randy Orton was on RAW. JR didn't like him, but he praised him as a competitor. Or when Undertaker was a heel. Or the couple of times he's done interbrand stuff and talked about JBL.
And, yes, the announcer is supposed to put everyone over, face or heel. That's the mark of a good announcer. You can put someone over in terms of making them credible while still being "BAH GAWD WHAT A DESPICABLE ACT! DAMN HIM TO HELL!" But, from time to time, JR chooses not to and it pisses me off.
Listen to Michael Cole call a JBL match. He doesn't make him out to be a terrible wrestler. He just thinks that the things he does are terrible. Or listen to Joey Styles calling a pre-face Rob Van Dam match in ECW. Or, hell, go back to the mid-'90s when JR was still a competent PBP man and listen to him call Owen Hart matches.
I have never heard JR say anything negative about anyone's ability in the ring. As a matter of fact, more often than not, he'll remark about how good they look in the ring.
La Resistance is a perfect example. He praised them on more than one occasion about how he many not like them but they're still great young talents. Can JR go a bit more into detail? Yeah, why not? But that doesn't mean that he's NOT putting them over, even the heels.
He has never, to my knowledge, put someone down for how bad of a wrestler they are. After all, if he did, he would have been fired more than twice by now.
Kane Knight
04-30-2006, 08:49 PM
JR wouldn't be fired. They won't get rid of him. Everyone loves JR.
But it's a perfect excuse if the Spirit Squad fails.
Mr. Nerfect
04-30-2006, 11:55 PM
Joey Styles should at least still do Heat. JR is going to be back for a few weeks, then people will be asking for his blood, again.
Dorkchop
05-01-2006, 12:39 AM
What is Coachs talent
The whitest black guy ever.
Dorkchop
05-01-2006, 12:44 AM
Bring in Jesse Ventura, he's not doing anything nowadays.
I thought he was putting a wrestler in the White House in 2008.
He's becoming a janitor now?
That'll be the only way he gets in there.
jindrak
05-01-2006, 02:53 AM
IMO, SCSA has the potential to be the best color commentator or all-time.
Don't believe me? Listen to SCSA on color during the Invasion angle.
JR wouldn't be fired. They won't get rid of him. Everyone loves JR.
But it's a perfect excuse if the Spirit Squad fails.
My point was that JR would never put one of the WWE's talents that they're trying to get over down on ability.
BobBitchen
05-01-2006, 11:08 AM
FINALLY THE J.R. HAS COME BACK TO............RAW.IF YOU SMELL WHAT THE J.R. IS COOOOOOOOOOOKING.(SMELLS LIKE HIS CHICKEN IS BURNING?)
I for one am happy about that.
Gertner
05-01-2006, 11:10 AM
like realy, What had Styles done that was so bad? I love him as lead announcer
Dorkchop
05-01-2006, 11:13 AM
IMO, SCSA has the potential to be the best color commentator or all-time.
Don't believe me? Listen to SCSA on color during the Invasion angle.
I loved his commentary during the Angle vs Benoit cage match. He's damn funny.
They should bring in Stevie Ray.
loopydate
05-01-2006, 11:36 AM
like realy, What had Styles done that was so bad? I love him as lead announcer
He's not JR.
That's reason enough for WWE.
Jaton
05-01-2006, 11:47 AM
I think Booker T and JBL would make good commentators, especially together.
Kane Knight
05-01-2006, 12:47 PM
like realy, What had Styles done that was so bad? I love him as lead announcer
He's not JR, and he's been buried by King.
Innovator
05-01-2006, 12:55 PM
He's not JR, and he's been buried by Coach.
Kane Knight
05-01-2006, 01:00 PM
I dunno. Coach isn't really the one to blame IMO. Though he is part of the pissing contest going on. But King seems to jump on anything that might be a mistake, whereas Copach is just talking over him a la King.
Innovator
05-01-2006, 01:01 PM
Whenever I'm listening to RAW (during 24 commercial breaks) Coach is always jumping on Joey's lines and trying to cut him down. Coach just needs to get over the fact that he sucks at announcing
Kane Knight
05-01-2006, 01:07 PM
Coach needs to be beheaded by a returning Muhammed Hassan.
And none of that garotting Bullshit.
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