Official Raw Thread 05/01/06-Return of the Cutting Edge

[Corndad]

Again I say... Foley , coming to ECW's aide against Edge at ONS II

[AJHayes]

CHEAP POP!!!

[Xero]

LOL, did Styles just say "next week"?

[Batsu]

LMAO @ Edge...

"YOU'RE ON.... CRACK!"

[The Optimist]

Ooooh burn Edge. "Your on Crack"

[Astley316]

lol joey called it before edge said it

[G-wrath]

This is bound to be good. :D

[RawRocks]

Barbedwire match! Next Week! ??

[Blitz]

Uh oh, Joey fucked up.

[Xero]

You know what we haven't had in a while? An empty arena match.

[ClockShot]

Edge vs. Foley round 2. Something to look forward to.

[Johnny Vegas]

Mark out for that high pitched "OHMYGOD"

Hell yea :y:

[RGWhat316]

That should be good.

[Astley316]

thats gonna endeer joey to vince

though have to say without coach aint been too shabby

[Azriel]

Foley will always be the man. But greatest hardcore match ever?? Highly doubt it.

[Hanso Amore]

What song is that from the Backlash recap?

[RGWhat316]

Sucks that might put Joey in more hot water.

[Blitz]

Terry Funk's supposed to be at ONS2, right? Maybe Foley/Funk, for old time's sake?

[Azriel]

Pretty smart crowd tonight. And those girls were pretty hot

[RGWhat316]

What song is that from the Backlash recap?
They said it was Danko Jones, but I dunno what song it is.

[RawRocks]

Sorry Mick.. but the greatest hardcore match was Table-Ladders-Chairs I .. IMHO

[RGWhat316]

Not only did Angle beat Hogan at KOR, but Hogan tapped!

[Hanso Amore]

Sorry Mick.. but the greatest hardcore match was Table-Ladders-Chairs I .. IMHO

That "match" was just 5 spots, that was about it.

Funk vs Sabu, Born to be wired

[Azriel]

Shut up Masters

[Hanso Amore]

Masters' promos are like a bad E-fedder's

[Astley316]

masters and rvd intresting

[AJHayes]

<---- Marked out for RVD

[Azriel]

Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Money in the Bank and the NEW Intercontinental Champion, the Whole F'N Show, Rob Van Dam

[ClockShot]

I see Masters pulling a Repo-Man during this segment. Take the MITB or IC title and run. Just a guess.

[RGWhat316]

RVD! RVD! RVD! RVD!

[Astley316]

Carlito and RVd, now thats cool

[Blitz]

Good pop for Carlito :y:

[Azriel]

Tag match

[G-wrath]

Carlito face? Shocker!

:shifty:

[Corndad]

Yea Tag Team Match.. *Yawn*

[ClockShot]

Tag Match.

[The Optimist]

Yeah I kept hoping Carlito would spit in RVD's face, declaring how uncool it is that he has Carlito's money in the bank.

[Blitz]

Christ, I don't need more McMahon.

[Astley316]

yes vince is getting some off a ten cent diva

back to the rvd match please

[G-wrath]

wtf was that for?

[ClockShot]

Not only is Unlimited slow tonight, but they are cutting out way to early.

[RawRocks]

The Mahonism storyline is getting on my nerves

[Batsu]

At least the announce team is just Styles and Lawler.

[Blitz]

SS gonna fire Joey.

[Xero]

LOL, Styles was fired because of the fuck up!

[Hanso Amore]

McMahon's ego is killing his company.

I also have a hard to believeing in Shelton as a Hell whe nhe was a Support our troops ribbon on his boots. Makes me like him

And here comes JR

[Blitz]

Spoke a little soon, eh Batsu?

[Azriel]

Hmm, wjhats going on here?

[The Greater Power]

lol and then there was one

[Loose Cannon]

LOL Yes

:wave: Joey Styles

[Astley316]

think Vince noticed joeys slip up?

[RGWhat316]

Joey forced to leave?

[Blitz]

LOL at Lawler having to do play by play.

[Corndad]

so what could be the best match of the night has been interupted by Styles leaving and Vince and Candice. Great choices guys.

[Volchok]

where'd joey go?

[Blitz]

Nice kick Shelton.

[Blitz]

:heart: backcracker

[Corndad]

so we go from a 3 man team last week, to just the King this week? lol

[Blitz]

Haas/Benjamin feud could be hot.

[Hanso Amore]

At least they seem to be using HAAS

[Azriel]

Haas/Shelton feud coming up

[Astley316]

smackdown rebound best way to watch smackdown these days

[ClockShot]

Huh. I just got lost during this whole match. Styles dissapeared, and I see Haas with the crowd. Recap please?:wtf:

[RGWhat316]

Damn Mark Henry, injuring another star.

[Astley316]

this is way too much spirit squad

[Corndad]

and the hits keep coming...

[Blitz]

God save us from Styles wearing that.

[Blitz]

Styles ought to get pissed off next week, cut a huge promo on Vince, and quit.

[Hanso Amore]

They are ripping on Joey's Oh my Gods way too much

[RGWhat316]

Yeah, i dunno about all of this.

[G-wrath]

lol I love that Skittles commercial

[Xero]

You know, I just had a horrible, horrible thought.

I think they may actually put the title on Kenny.

[Azriel]

I feel bad for Joey. WWE writers are really smooth

[Corndad]

so how bout Unlimited still has a still picture from the last match on it. Outstanding.

[RawRocks]

this is getting way too pathetic!

[AJHayes]

It pains me to see what is happening to Styles.

[Azriel]

Xero, with HHH as ref, that won't happen

[Astley316]

You know, I just had a horrible, horrible thought.

I think they may actually put the title on Kenny.

yeah, i mean if randy orton is done with the wwe, last thing there gonna wanna do is have him as the youngest world champ ever

[RGWhat316]

You know, I just had a horrible, horrible thought.

I think they may actually put the title on Kenny.
I sure as hell hope not. Cena is the lesser of the 2 evils, so they better not do a title switch.

[ClockShot]

Score report
Boston 7 Yankees 3. Game over.

[Vazz]

It pains me to see what is happening to Styles.

[Xero]

yeah, i mean if randy orton is done with the wwe, last thing there gonna wanna do is have him as the youngest world champ ever
That's my thought. They gave Randy the title in part to get the youngest WWE champion off of Lesnar. If Randy's gone, they need to erase that.

And pros don't come too much younger than 20.

[Blitz]

I can completely buy the fact that that Gregory Dark guy used to direct porn.

[Azriel]

See No Evil is gonna be disturbing

[Astley316]

go Joey

[Blitz]

Fuck I love Joey.

[RGWhat316]

So with Coach gone, is King back to the heel announcer?

[Batsu]

Now this is really starting to look like the slip-up was deliberate.

[Xero]

LOL, this is Joey's way out of the booth.

[Corndad]

I hope this is the whole start of the ECW angle.... Yup. Joey's gonna do play by play for ECW.

[ClockShot]

Uh oh. Joey's gonna open a can.....

[Blitz]

JOEY STYLES IS THE FUCKING MAN.

[Batsu]

ECW!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xero]

LOL at the guy behind them "OH NO HE DIDN'T!"

Lawler/Styles at ONS?

[Hanso Amore]

JOEY IS GOING TO REFORM ECW, maybe they will have a decent story leading back int othe ECW product

[NeanderCarl]

.... interesting stuff!

Most interesting thing to happen on Raw tonight anyway.

[Astley316]

that was the best part of raw all night

[Xero]

JR: BAHGAWD KENNY IS THE WWE CHAMPION! BAHGAWD BAHGAWD BAHGAWD!

[The Optimist]

I hate that they think they need to erase history every time they have a dispute with a wrestler. I mean what if Kenny gets kicked out later, are they gonna make Steph's baby the champ.

[Blitz]

Hanso, I suggest you make your custom title read "King of the Obvious".

[Batsu]

Maybe -that's- why there was no Coach.

[RGWhat316]

Unlimited seems really short tonight.

[Azriel]

I was a bit suprised at King, but I guess without Coach, someone needs to be a heel color man

[Xero]

I hate that they think they need to erase history every time they have a dispute with a wrestler. I mean what if Kenny gets kicked out later, are they gonna make Steph's baby the champ.
I called that when I first heard about her pregnancey.

"TIME TO PLAY CANDY LAAAANNNDDD!"

[ClockShot]

Damn, we might just hit double digits in this thread tonight.

[Batsu]

LMAO! "You gonna take that from him?! You gonna take that from him?"

[Batsu]

This Columbus, OH crowd is great.

[Blitz]

Yeah, LOL at the "No he di'nt" guy.

[The Optimist]

So... Kenny vs. Cena with play by play with The King

[RGWhat316]

Damn, we might just hit double digits in this thread tonight.
Last week's thread almost hit 10 and it was taped. So this should get into 10or more.

[AJHayes]

Please bring the ECW Cavalry

[zdmay]

I hope JR comes out.

[Blitz]

Oh shit, big promo coming up.

[Corndad]

Is this a Shoot???

[Xero]

Oh shit...

[RGWhat316]

Oh yeah, Joey bring us a shoot promo.

[Vazz]

JOEY! JOEY! JOEY!

[ClockShot]

Shoot promo?!

[Batsu]

YEAH!!!

[AJHayes]

I'm building up to a massive JOEY-gasm

[Loose Cannon]

Half the forum is marking out right now

[Corndad]

DAMN RIGHT!!!

[Boondock Saint]

Holy shit Styles :love:

[NeanderCarl]

ECW (WWE version) = Worked Shoot-ville

[The Greater Power]

mother of god

[Xero]

Holy shit!

[RGWhat316]

Is it possible to positive rep Joey? lol

[zdmay]

This is good stuff.

[Astley316]

Joey Styles is my new hero

[Loose Cannon]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Hanso Amore]

This is the best TV raw has had in a year

[Xero]

If Heyman comes out...

[Corndad]

HOLY SHIT.

[Loose Cannon]

WTF?

[Xero]

LOL, holy shit...

[Blitz]

There's no gentle way to say this: I came during that promo.

[Loose Cannon]

marks vs smarks baby

[AJHayes]

OH MY GOD!!!

I think I need a cigarette.

[ClockShot]

On a scale of 1-10. 11!
BEHOLD THE KING!

[zdmay]

It sounds like Joey's been reading the TPWW.net boards.

[Xero]

Styles (worked-)shoot = greatness

[Hanso Amore]

If anyone thinks Joey can't hack it in the WWE, that just showed hw great he is.

No Hbk tonight though

[RGWhat316]

Best RAW moment this year!

[Xero]

Heyman had a hand in that promo, no doubt.

[Astley316]

that promo just convinced me they maybe be able finally manage to get an invasion brand war angle right

[Boondock Saint]

That was friggin awesome. If they keep the buildup for ECW as sick as this, I will have a renewed interest in wrestling again.

[RawRocks]

Finally something happpened on Raw worth a damn!

[Blitz]

Seriously, Holy fuck, even if it was a work, I can't remember the last time I marked out so hard.

[Astley316]

the best they got backstage is todd grisham lmao

[zdmay]

Todd Grisham announcing the main event.

[ClockShot]

Great. Grisham took over.:roll:

[NeanderCarl]

If WWE is smart in pushing a WWE vs ECW feud, it could be the massive angle that WWF vs WCW was SUPPOSED to be.

Despite the company being a huge money-hole with only moderate success at best, WWE has done a great job of sugar-coating the memory of ECW to the point where there is more fan interest in it now than there EVER was when it was in operation.

This could be the BIG angle that revives wrestling... it echoes of Austin vs McMahon. The anti-establishment, rebel takes on the big corporate success. Austin/McMahon.... ECW/WWE.... same thing. Same box, new tricks.

[Jaton]

With Styles shooting hardcore, and Kenny getting a WWE title shot, someone please tell me why Alienoid has been hired as a WWE writer?

[Xero]

Have Van Dam attack Cena here for Styles, that would be the perfect set up.

[Azriel]

That promo was just awesomeness, but why the turn on the fans at the end?

[RGWhat316]

I guess using Kenny is a way for Cena to get cheered.

[SuperSlim]

Styles was unbelievable tonight... and now that it's main event time I'm here to watch Triple H do somethin

[Astley316]

this will end ina no contest, triple h will get bored and take everyone out with a sledgehammer

[RGWhat316]

This could be that jolt for WWE right now. Last year's feud with WWE and ECW was good. But this could be the extra to make it that much better.

[NeanderCarl]

That promo was just awesomeness, but why the turn on the fans at the end?

Makes sense. Joey hates sports entertainment. The crowd are sports entertainment fans (guilty by association by purchasing tickets to WWE Raw).

[SuperSlim]

so far so good, Trips = best ref ever

[ClockShot]

Ha. Trips is just chillin' in the corner.

[NeanderCarl]

Re: this match.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict a schmozz/no contest.

Could see HBK/Edge/Foley all getting involved in this.

[Xero]

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Holy shit, LOL!

[RawRocks]

Triple H couldnt give two shits about this match no matter who is the champ.

[Blitz]

LOL at Trips.

[Hanso Amore]

I agree with the smarks vs marks comment.

The WWE has ackowledged the IWC/Smark community in regards to Cena.

Maybe they plan on running a ECW vs WWE angle, trying to split the fans.

I hope they have more buildup next week. Alot of time before ONS, But I hope they do a little every week, and just dont cram it all in at the PPV

[RGWhat316]

Styles just made this board skyrocket!

[RGWhat316]

LOL @ HHH taking his time.

[AJHayes]

You know, Kenny is good enough as a stand alone wrestler. We don't need the spirit squad there... The only reason they're there is to make Cena look unstoppable...

And then Kenny pushed Trips

[ClockShot]

Here we go.

[Corndad]

I'm liking this new HHH Seriously.

[SuperSlim]

yayyyy a new referee

[Corndad]

DX?????

[ClockShot]

And the plot thickens.....

[Xero]

They are seriously teasing DX here...

[AJHayes]

IN THE NAME OF CHUCK NORRIS!!!

[Corndad]

For the first hour and 1/2 sucking the last 1/2 hour has been amazing.

[RGWhat316]

LOL!

[Xero]

Holy shit my heart almost stopped...

[Skippord]

KENNY SHOULD'VE WON IT

[zdmay]

Great moment between HHH and Shawn

[SuperSlim]

the only thing that would cap this off is HBK nailing Cena

[Astley316]

the second hour of raw has been sheer greatness, the cutting edge, styles and a pretty decent main event

[Boondock Saint]

ROFL @ HBK

[Corndad]

LOL at HBK

[Blitz]

Hot fucking crowd.

[Xero]

Michaels should have refused to count Cena and Sweet Chined him.

[Corndad]

wow... if u would have told me an hour ago how great this show would be... I would have laughed in your face.

[RGWhat316]

Damn, I actually don't want RAW to end.

[SuperSlim]

maybe the kick didn't happen but the last half hour = best time of raw that has been seen in the past couple of years

[Boondock Saint]

Damn, that DX "tease" got my heart racing.

[ClockShot]

Great half hour of Raw. Have a good night gentlemen. (And lady.)

[Schoenauer]

With Styles shooting hardcore, and Kenny getting a WWE title shot, someone please tell me why Alienoid has been hired as a WWE writer?
Alienoid isn't writing for WWE, if he was, he'd be pushing Doug Basham and have him win.

[NeanderCarl]

Grisham didn't do that bad a job.

I take it Edge is now totally out of the WWE title scene again. Going backwards with another Foley match.

[SuperSlim]

hotness, that Raw was the crapper at the beginning but man alive the ending was too good for it to end

[rob11]

Well, I assume this sets up next week as HHH/Cena/HBK vs the Spirit Squad. Lets see if something happens next week.

[Azriel]

It was like watching two different shows tonight, but the real genius of it, most of the first half was really just a slow set up for the second half. Tonight was awesome, like the way RAW was in its prime. WWE better keep the momentum

[RGWhat316]

Pistons go up 3-1, so this is turning out to be a good night.

[Blitz]

Fuck yeah, the DX tease was a thing of beauty.

[McLegend]

That Joey Styles promo was Awe Inspiring

[Blitz]

OIL ELIMINATES THE WINGS, WHAT!!!!

[RawRocks]

wow.. the shittiest start to Raw finished with perhaps the greatest finish to Raw ever

[AJHayes]

I can't believe how excited I was during this show. It felt like attitude era excitement! Wow!

[Xero]

The beginning tonight was really jobber centeral. Snitsky, Eugene, and Goldust vs. SS? A women's tag match? A Kane squash (although entertaining)? That sounded like it was going to be a shit RAW.

Then Joey turned it around and the main event, even though it was more likely to bomb, was actually fair.

[rob11]

If there is something that is beyond marking out, I did it for Styles tonight.

[SuperSlim]

I kinda liked the beginning of Raw.. then again I just like seeing Victoria :D

[The Naitch]

I kinda liked the beginning of Raw.. then again I just like seeing Victoria :D

you mean Rhi(annon)

[What Would Kevin Do?]

A little late but.

WOW!

I LOVE YOU JOEY!!! One of the better promos I've seen in a long time. Haven't seen that great of a worked shoot since Heyman's old promos during the invasion.

[RGWhat316]

Damn, did Styles break the users record on here or not?

[Joey Slugs]

I am going to start going to church again.... and pray to Joey Styles.

"Our Joey, who art in Philly... Styles be thy name..."

[zdmay]

OIL ELIMINATES THE WINGS, WHAT!!!!

The top 2 seeds in the West gone, with my Dallas Stars losing to the Avs.

Marty Turco sucks in the playoffs.

[Xero]

Damn, did Styles break the users record on here or not?
About 100 shy.

Still really impressive for a RAW.

[SuperSlim]

you mean Rhi(annon)

:lol: nah I mean Victoria... not the cum guzzler of TPWW :p

[Xero]

I am going to start going to church again.... and pray to Joey Styles.

"Our Joey, who art in Philly... Styles be thy name..."
"OH MY GAWWWD! OH MY GAWWWWD!"

[Joey Slugs]

A little late but.

WOW!

I LOVE YOU JOEY!!! One of the better promos I've seen in a long time. Haven't seen that great of a worked shoot since Heyman's old promos during the invasion.

Last time I marked out that much during a promo was for Paul E. during ONS.

[rob11]

I am going to start going to church again.... and pray to Joey Styles.

"Our Joey, who art in Philly... Styles be thy name..."
I will join this Church.

[SecretDesire]

All I can say..........DX DX DX! Michaels and HHH tonight were the most exciting part of the show. And Styles just capped it off. Id have to agree with SuperSlim I really though Shawn was gonna superkick Cena. Great Raw!!!

[Jaded-Dragon]

Styles made that RAW. Period.

[rob11]

Last time I marked out that much during a promo was for Paul E. during ONS.
I tried to rep you but it said I had to spread some rep around before giving it to you again. But I haven't given it to you yet, I am trying to.

[Joey Slugs]

i can't even think about the DX tease of late. after tonight...

it's E C FUCKING W

[mrslackalack]

You know on RAW Lawlers been a Cena fan so it'd be great if Cena did turn heel and have a heel Lawler talk about how great he is while Styles and the crowd is for RVD.

[Blitz]

For real tho, the DX tease was done perfectly. That stare at the top of the ramp, you're on the edge of your seat wondering if Trips is gonna turn around and go back to the ring with Michaels...

[Skippord]

Holy crap Maria's music sucks ass *Watching on tape*

[Lara Emily]

Gonna catch some of this on the TSN replay

[Outsider]

I want to watch it so bad. But there is no possible way :(

[neuicon]

Styles was great, and said what Vince is so afraid to tell the fans. I mean, they cheer, then boo. I was a TRUE ECW FAN when it was around, and now I hafta settle for a bit of WWE every now and then, and tonight, when fans booed him, I was like, "But it's so true!! We do buy into that crap!! I have been for the past few months now!!"

Thanks God for Joey Styles...

[St. Jimmy]

I left around right after Kane Vs. Conway and just watched the rest now on tape. OMFG. Styles was unbelieveable. Heyman had to have written that shoot promo. I marked out like a little bitch. The DX tease near the end was fucking brilliant. I'm rather glad they didn't have HBK lay out cena... this sets up to make Cena a great Face against a Heel DX, should they decide to do it.

Best Raw in AGES.

[Brian Bee]

Main-eventing Raw and marrying Mickie James, and Kenny can't even legally drink in the U.S.

[loopydate]

It was like watching two different shows tonight, but the real genius of it, most of the first half was really just a slow set up for the second half. Tonight was awesome, like the way RAW was in its prime. WWE better keep the momentum

Exactly. I wasn't even on here during RAW, so it's kinda funny to come on the next day and find everyone talking about how awful this RAW is and how they're going to change the channel, then all of a sudden at 10:00 it becomes the OMFG BEST RAW EVER!

The first hour was hit-or-miss, but it built beautifully to the amazing finish. Spirit Squad as GMs led to the Joey "shoot." HBK/Kane/Conway led to Cena/Kenny/HHH/HBK. They laid the groundwork for the first sixty minutes, and it's only once we can step back and see the show as a whole that we can really appreciate how good RAW was this week.

I hope they can keep up this ECW momentum until June, and then on into the fall. I definitely can't wait to see what happens next week.

[Joey Slugs]

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[Kane Knight]

*Edit: build me a shelter...not buy :roll:

How good does the quality have to be?

[Kane Knight]

I stopped watching partway through. About the time of the Cutting Edge. I had it on my HTS speakers, so I heard the brilliant promo. It just wasn't enough t oget me to tune back in, no matter how brilliant it was.

If this is what the Attitude Era was about, it's a wonder it made it to 4.0 ratings, let alone the records it set, because the idea is to hype people up for the second hour, not to make them turn away.

[loopydate]

Since WWE will inevitably take that down from YouTube, here's a transcript:

You want to apologize. Like nothing happened. Like you didn't knock me on my ass in front of millions of people worldwide. And I'm going to come down there and work with you. I'm not coming back. And now - thanks to the magic of live television - I'm going to show the whole world why, for seven years in ECW, I was the unscripted, uncensored loose cannon of commentary!

Six months ago WWE called ME! I didn't call this company because I was looking for a job. I didn't need a job. WWE called me because they had humiliated and fired (AGAIN) Jim Ross! So I get JR's spot. And from week one, week after week, I got an ongoing lecture on the differences in professional wrestling...and sports-entertainment.

I'm not allowed to say "pro wrestling." I'm not allowed to say "wrestler." I have to say "sports-entertainment." And refer to the wrestlers as..."superstars." I'm told to deliberately ignore the moves and the holds during the matches so I can tell stories. Well, ignoring the moves and the holds is DAMN INSULTING to the athletes - the WRESTLERS, not the "entertainers" - who leave their families three hundred days a year to ply their craft in that ring.

There's the best part. Because I'm not a "sports-entertainment storyteller, I get pulled from WrestleMania. And the reason I'm given is is because I don't sound like Jim Ross...who's the guy they fired in the first place! That makes sense, right? So I swallowed the bitter pill. I'm a company guy. I get bumped from WrestleMania. Then I get bumped...from BACKLASH? I'm not good enough to call BACKLASH?!?

In ECW, I called live pay-per-views on my own. Solo. No color commentators dragging me down. Wasn't done before me, hasn't been done since! But I'm not good enough to call Backlash because I'm not a "sports-entertainment storyteller."

Well, you know what? I am sick of sports-entertainment. I am sick of male cheerleaders. I am sick of boogers and bathroom humor and semen and I am sick of our Chairman. Who likes to talk about his own semen. He mocks God. He mocks GOD! And makes out with the Divas. All to feed his own insatiable ego. I am sick of sports-entertainment.

And most of all, I'm sick of you fans who actually buy into that crap! This sports-entertainment circus! I never needed this job. And I don't want this job anymore.

[He pulls the WWE logo cube off the microphone he's holding and tosses it disdainfully to the ground.]

I QUIT!

[James Steele]

Beautiful.