Are video games art?

[Savio]

I don't think they are

[DS]

They are as much as movies are.

[Funky Fly]

My immediate response to this is no, but then when I think back to playing certain games like Ocarina of Time and being blown away by the story and execution, I have to say yes.

[Jaded-Dragon]

They really are no different than movies. Someone has a concept, they sell their idea, a director takes over and uses a team to bring his visualization to the world. There are producers, publishers, writers, animators, actors, etc.

The only glaring difference is that games are user interactive and movies are not.

[D Mac]

Yes.

[Drakul]

If a Dyson Vacuum can be art along with a load of splashes of paint on canvas that make no real picture then games can be art. It all depends on the individual.

Art is something thats beautiful and beauty differs from person to person.

[Kane Knight]

Remember those old art/pornography debates?

I think that some games are very much art, while most are not.

[Savio]

Yeah I don't think they are but I don't really have a good arguement for it.

[Sadistic]

I say Yes.

[Extreme Angle]

all depends how you look at it... dragon quest is because its all 2d

[Disturbed316]

My immediate response to this is no, but then when I think back to playing certain games like Ocarina of Time and being blown away by the story and execution, I have to say yes.

[Blitz]

Yes, but only some.

[Hired Hitman]

everything is artwork in one shape or another, Video games are the expression of their creators, which is just what Painting, Photos and Film are, so I don't see why Video Games can't be classed as art.

[ClockShot]

Hideo Kojima had a big discussion about this topic a few volumes back in PS2 magazine. Stating "video games is not art." Or something along those lines. As for the poll, there should be a 50/50 answer cause some games are just great and could be considered art. And some games people ask "where do they come up with this garbage?"

[DS]

Just because something bad, doesn't mean it's not art. There are plenty of horrible movies, paintings, pictures, songs, etc that are just horrible but they are still considered art. If one game is considered a work of art then they all should be.

[Kane Knight]

Hideo Kojima had a big discussion about this topic a few volumes back in PS2 magazine. Stating "video games is not art." Or something along those lines. As for the poll, there should be a 50/50 answer cause some games are just great and could be considered art. And some games people ask "where do they come up with this garbage?"

Yeah, this isn't really a black and white question.

[Kane Knight]

Just because something bad, doesn't mean it's not art. There are plenty of horrible movies, paintings, pictures, songs, etc that are just horrible but they are still considered art. If one game is considered a work of art then they all should be.

...And yet, not all compositions and drawings and pictures are considered art.

[DS]

I would beg to differ, personally, but I can understand what you mean.

[el fregadero]

Are board games art?

[DS]

New thread, elf rag.

[Kane Knight]

Are board games art?

Monopoly is, but Yatzee isn't.

[Kane Knight]

I would beg to differ, personally, but I can understand what you mean.

Just the fact that the most asked question about art is "What is Art?" Indicates that there is some sort of art/not paradigm out there.

Similarly, some photos are to capture a memory or image, some are artistic expression. There are snap shots, and then there's photography. there's cinema and there's porn. There's all sorts of paradigms between art (Which is an element of expression) and everything else.

[el fregadero]

Monopoly is, but Yatzee isn't.
In fairness, Yahtzee isn't a board game really. No board anyway.

[Kane Knight]

In fairness, I have never played Yatzhee

[PapaGeorgio]

I agree that it can go a variety of ways. Looking at a game like Robotron, Guitar Hero, Wrestling Gmae or Pacman I would probably argue they are not really art. But looking at certain games like Ocarani of Time which was mentioned, or Wind Wanker, God of War, and other games that involve more of a story a stronger case could be argued. What I am mainly thinking of are cut scenes in videogames. To me there is a difference in a cut scene from a wrestling game to one in God of War.
I took a class dealing with the economics of arts. One thing we spent a lot of time on is what could be considered art. In theory all videogames could be art in some way. It really depends on what you think as an individual. There really is no set rules for what makes something art. I mean I'm looking at some of my action figures now. I display some like my AVP or X-Men ones, while others like my wrestling ones are currently tossed in a drawer. one could argue a case these are an art form. Just because an item isn't unique as an oil painting doesn't mean it's a form of art.
In conclusion thinking about it more, I'd say video games are an art form. I think a lot of video games are used as an outlet to express oneself.

[Requiem]

Video Games are a collaboration of art making up a finished product. They are not art in the traditional sense. Video Games usually have a story, which in itself is a work of art, and of course the graphic art, is just that... art. Now, molding something together with all of these things is a form of art itself. OoT for instance. Back then, those graphics were awesome, and it melded with the story so perfectly.

[Dorkchop]

Yes. Burger Time is art.

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