Official Raw Thread (5/8/2006)

[Corndad]

Really corndad. My connection is just fine.

Mine's been coming in and out all night, usually isn't a problem. oh well.

[iquitted]

Was edge ever hardcore champ?


once, in a 2 min porno with lita...wanna buy a copy?:)

[Azriel]

So, are we gonna know the significance of May 19 next week then?

[ClockShot]

5 bucks says we hear "the voices"

That or something with "May 19th" written all over it comes out from somewhere.

[Volare]

holy shit the world's slowest wrestling match

[Astley316]

maybe he will show up on smackdown since its a friday and all

[iquitted]

the slowest drop toe hold ever...lol. that was cool.

[ClockShot]

maybe he will show up on smackdown since its a friday and all

Saturday for us since we got the yankees playing.

[Volare]

did we go back to 1992?? WTF is this shit

[Ben Rodrigues]

This match is a ratings disaster.

Sign Bill Alfonzo.

Fonzie's face = Ratings :-D

[iquitted]

TIVO this, and watch it at 4 times the rate...it will look like Super Mega Cruiserweights.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

This match is hilarious

[loopydate]

Was edge ever hardcore champ?

Not that I can find.

[Corndad]

What the hell, Benoit and Angle *and Azriel and Thunder* can pull this off but this is just boring.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Kane's mask on the Titantron there.

[G-wrath]

ITS THE MASK!










derp de derp

[Astley316]

ooooh the mask on the titan tron

[ClockShot]

Do I hear a boring chant up in the nosebleeds?

[Volare]

wait wait wait they just showed kanes mask on the titantron


AND I CALLED IT

[loopydate]

Okay, I'm not hallucinating, right? That was Kane Mask #2 on the Tron?

[iquitted]

Did they do all this promo crap when Triple H starred in Blade:Trinity? or when the Rock was in Walking Tall? The titantron came on, and voices whispered..."you're a hick, Rock...you're a hick, Rock..."?

[Azriel]

They're bringing back the Mask, which seems kinda pointless

[Ben Rodrigues]

OH MI DIOS!

[Volare]

by the way, just a question for the room. when did kane lose his mask??

[McLegend]

That was the best match ever.

[Azriel]

I don't think it was May 19th Volare

[ClockShot]

Did they do all this promo crap when Triple H starred in Blade:Trinity? or when the Rock was in Walking Tall? The titantron came on, and voices whispered..."you're a hick, Rock...you're a hick, Rock..."?

Or when Stone Cold Steve Austin appeared in The Longest Yard, or when the Great Khali appeared in The Longest Yard, need I go on?

[Ben Rodrigues]

by the way, just a question for the room. when did kane lose his mask??

When he faced with Triple H for the title - the feud that was suppose to go to Bubba Ray - but went to Kane with no build up.

[Corndad]

He lost his mask when he lost a Title Match to HHH on TV, and the first guy he attacked was RVD if I do recall.

[iquitted]

by the way, just a question for the room. when did kane lose his mask??

When he was Dr. Yankem, DDS...or something like that.
oh, wait...he took it off, and Raw lost a lot of viewers...oh, wait...that doesn't help.

[Azriel]

So, maybe the Mask keeps Kane "calm"

[Volare]

MOTORHEAD!!!

[Savio]

by the way, just a question for the room. when did kane lose his mask??May 15th

[Azriel]

The Spirit Squad!!!

[Skippord]

SPIRIT SQUAD

[Corndad]

Again I ask why wasn't Kane acting weird last May 19th?

[Volare]

and now as i love to call them


Cockmasters!!!

[ClockShot]

This is supposed to be the main event. They're either gonna load it with commercials or have something big happen with a good 20 minutes left.

[Azriel]

their cheers suck pretty damn bad

[Azriel]

I think they need the Spartan cheerleaders for some help :lol:

[Astley316]

maybe its an anniversary or something for kane, maybe this may 19th's special, or maybe the creative team just forgot that small detail when they came up with this self promoting crap

[Ben Rodrigues]

So... Is Victoria going to be the 3rd member of DX?

[iquitted]

since 5 guys share a gimmick, do they split a paycheck 5 ways? I can see how Vince makes more money...he's a genius.

[Boondock Saint]

Did they do all this promo crap when Triple H starred in Blade:Trinity? or when the Rock was in Walking Tall? The titantron came on, and voices whispered..."you're a hick, Rock...you're a hick, Rock..."?

I think the difference with this is that it's WWE's first movie under the "WWE Films" banner. So they're promoting the hell out of it.

[loopydate]

Again I ask why wasn't Kane acting weird last May 19th?

Maybe whatever it was didn't happen until last May 19. So, this is the first year it bothers him.

Or it could just be bad writing.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

For a while, I thought Cena was the worst thing on television. I'm not a Cena hater, but he paled in comparison to old Cena.

Now after seeing the Spirit Squad, I realize that Cena was FAR from the worst thing on Television.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Is it me or does that one SS member look like a blonde haired Randy Orton?

[Azriel]

I still think it's when the fire happened.

[ClockShot]

I think the difference with this is that it's WWE's first movie under the "WWE Films" banner. So they're promoting the hell out of it.

I don't think so Boondock Saint. I think either "The Rundown" or "Walking Tall" was the first movie they put out.

[Volare]

oh BS!!! cena is the most controversial Champ

guess we forgot about calling Stone Cold that....:nono:

[Corndad]

Maybe whatever it was didn't happen until last May 19. So, this is the first year it bothers him.

Or it could just be bad writing.

I think LPD and Thunder will get along just fine in our 6 man with great explainations like that lol.

[Astley316]

nope all the rocks pictures have been outside of the wwe.

This is the first official film by wwe films to be released, cena also did the marine but thats dissapeared somewhere

[Savio]

Again I ask why wasn't Kane acting weird last May 19th Because wrestling isn't real

[Ben Rodrigues]

Marine's coming out October apparently.

[Skippord]

Go SPIRIT SQUAD

[Savio]

and last may 19th wasn't televisied I believe

[Corndad]

Because wrestling isn't real

True, but logical storylines should be real...

[ClockShot]

Yeah. Trampoline at work!

[Azriel]

We need a big DX tease tonight

[Boondock Saint]

I don't think so Boondock Saint. I think either "The Rundown" or "Walking Tall" was the first movie they put out.

Nah those were separate.

From http://corporate.wwe.com/company/merchandise.jsp

WWE Films was established in the summer of 2002 to expand WWE’s role within the film and television business. The division creates feature film and television properties, some of which star WWE Superstars.

WWE Films first feature, “See No Evil,” stars WWE Raw Superstar Kane. It will be released theatrically by Lionsgate Films on May 19, 2006. The second film from WWE Films, “The Marine,” stars WWE Raw Superstar John Cena and will be released theatrically on September 29, 2006, by 20th Century Fox. Legendary Superstar “Stone Cold” Steve Austin has signed to appear in three WWE Films productions. The first of these, “The Condemned,” will begin shooting in May 2006. It will be released theatrically by Lionsgate Films.

[Astley316]

one thing you should know by now anything to do with kane is his character backstory is anything but logical lol

[Corndad]

My Prediction... HHH will come down and lay out everyone except HBK who is slowly walking up the ramp

[Azriel]

Because wrestling isn't real
IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMNIT!!

[loopydate]

I think LPD and Thunder will get along just fine in our 6 man with great explainations like that lol.

Can you just imagine our team sitting around watching this, Corky passed out on the couch after an inadvertant Jabba Juice overdose? Thunder's watching to pick up new moves. LPD making out with Angie.

Yep, good times.

[Ben Rodrigues]

Whatever happend to the story about Kane being locked up in the basement for 20 years waiting to get his revenge on The Undertaker? Did he just up and leave from time to time to drive Katey Vick from a party and torment animals on the way home from school?

[NeanderCarl]

Anyone reckon this whole May 19th thing could lead to a... wait for it...

Kane vs Kane feud.

Maybe it turns out that the current bald Kane attacked masked "Big Red Machine" Kane and pretended to be him for a couple of years, but on May 19th, the REAL Kane is coming back to sort out this imposter Kane. Or even that Kane has a split personality and the deranged "masked" Kane has somehow found a passage into reality to become a seperate entity!

Obviously, I realise that Glen Jacobs, the current Kane, has always played the role. But if WWE had somebody of a similar build, I wouldn't put it past them to try and recreate the original masked Kane with a new wrestler.

Let's face it, it's a ridiculous suggestion on my part, but it's no more far-fetched than some of the crap WWE has been churning out lately, and would explain why the voices in Kane's head are his own.

[ClockShot]

Nah those were separate.

From http://corporate.wwe.com/company/merchandise.jsp

WWE Films was established in the summer of 2002 to expand WWE’s role within the film and television business. The division creates feature film and television properties, some of which star WWE Superstars.

WWE Films first feature, “See No Evil,” stars WWE Raw Superstar Kane. It will be released theatrically by Lionsgate Films on May 19, 2006. The second film from WWE Films, “The Marine,” stars WWE Raw Superstar John Cena and will be released theatrically on September 29, 2006, by 20th Century Fox. Legendary Superstar “Stone Cold” Steve Austin has signed to appear in three WWE Films productions. The first of these, “The Condemned,” will begin shooting in May 2006. It will be released theatrically by Lionsgate Films.

No shit. I know I saw their name in the credits and thought they had complete control with Rock's movies. Excluding Be Cool. But wow, after all this time being around, they are finally making their first film. What took them so long?

[Corndad]

Can you just imagine our team sitting around watching this, Corky passed out on the couch after an inadvertant Jabba Juice overdose? Thunder's watching to pick up new moves. LPD making out with Angie.

Yep, good times.

That's out strategy. lol

[G-wrath]

I'm bored.

[ClockShot]

Come on Trips. Get out here.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

(Mikey goes for swanton)

JR: Mikey going for a.........moonsault...

[Corndad]

Here comes H...

[Astley316]

yey finally triple h

[ClockShot]

Here we go.

[loopydate]

Here comes the swerve and I say it's all right.

[Skippord]

Pedifuckingree

[Corndad]

DX BABY!!!!!

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Again with the chopping.

STOP TEASING ME, DAMN IT. :(

[G-wrath]

DX CHOP

:love:

[iquitted]

Anyone reckon this whole May 19th thing could lead to a... wait for it...

Kane vs Kane feud.

Maybe it turns out that the current bald Kane attacked masked "Big Red Machine" Kane and pretended to be him for a couple of years, but on May 19th, the REAL Kane is coming back to sort out this imposter Kane. Or even that Kane has a split personality and the deranged "masked" Kane has somehow found a passage into reality to become a seperate entity!

Obviously, I realise that Glen Jacobs, the current Kane, has always played the role. But if WWE had somebody of a similar build, I wouldn't put it past them to try and recreate the original masked Kane with a new wrestler.

Let's face it, it's a ridiculous suggestion on my part, but it's no more far-fetched than some of the crap WWE has been churning out lately, and would explain why the voices in Kane's head are his own.

the original kane will be played by...

[Boondock Saint]

D-GENERATION X

[Azriel]

Maybe its just HHH going back to his DX persona

And I think that idea of 2 Kanes might be somewhat feasible. After all, remember Taker vs. Taker

[Azriel]

Anyway, big letdown from last weeks RAW. Maybe they need to get the writers from LOST on there. At least their quality is somewhat consistent

Night all.

[Xero]

Anyone reckon this whole May 19th thing could lead to a... wait for it...

Kane vs Kane feud.

Maybe it turns out that the current bald Kane attacked masked "Big Red Machine" Kane and pretended to be him for a couple of years, but on May 19th, the REAL Kane is coming back to sort out this imposter Kane. Or even that Kane has a split personality and the deranged "masked" Kane has somehow found a passage into reality to become a seperate entity!

Obviously, I realise that Glen Jacobs, the current Kane, has always played the role. But if WWE had somebody of a similar build, I wouldn't put it past them to try and recreate the original masked Kane with a new wrestler.

Let's face it, it's a ridiculous suggestion on my part, but it's no more far-fetched than some of the crap WWE has been churning out lately, and would explain why the voices in Kane's head are his own.
I've said that since he first took the mask off.,

I had it that the real Kane was taken when he started to talk. The new Kane would not talk and would just beat the fuck out of everything that moves. He feuds with "Kane" (Glenn Jacobs) and goes on to win the feud, with Glenn taking the gimmick back over.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Here's my thought process of the Foley/Dreamer thing. Funk is signed to One Night Stand II, Funk was Dreamer's "mentor". This sets up the battle of the hardcores as Funk tries to avenge Tommy by taking on Foley at ONSII

[RP]

Terry Funk is 80 years old. Getting out of bed is about as Hardcore as it gets for him.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Funk will never retire though. I didn't say the match was going to be good, just was going to be built as "the battle of the hardcores".

[RP]

Nah i'm just saying.. when i here Terry Funks name, I dont really get hyped. Honestly. Most of the ECW names do nothing for me. Most of them are older and beat up and rusty as shit. I'm not all that excited about ECW.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Pretty much. :( I'm excited because I'm an ECW mutant. I'm not excited because I know that ECW is dead, they've had their last hurrah and the vast majority of the talent should leave it that way.

[loopydate]

(Mikey goes for swanton)

JR: Mikey going for a.........moonsault...

And this is why Jim Ross is a terrible terrible play-by-play man.

[St. Jimmy]

(just finished watching RAW on tape)
I fucking hate Jim Ross. I didn't used to... but after going from Joey Styled to JR... jesus fucking christ. Decent raw, Maria/Mickie-Show/Kane-Umaga/Jobbers excluded. Maria's theme isn't THAT BAD. Not amazing for what a band like Zebrahead CAN do. DX tease getting really bad now...

one thing stands out.

Foley Heel Turn = Genius.

[Joey Slugs]

Here's my thought process of the Foley/Dreamer thing. Funk is signed to One Night Stand II, Funk was Dreamer's "mentor". This sets up the battle of the hardcores as Funk tries to avenge Tommy by taking on Foley at ONSII

I think it will be Dreamer (Funk) v Edge (Foley), with the legends as managers. But of course, all hell will break loose.

[Mr. JL]

Cactus Jack V. Tommy Dreamer looks pretty fucking good where I am sitting.

[James Steele]

:lol:

I actually liked the Kane/Big Show match.

[Mr. JL]

Of course, I am a ECW mark so.....

Watching old ECW tapes and CD's is pretty much the only wrestling I watch anymore. I occasionally tune in to watch a segment on RAW, get bored and turn the channel. Same can be said for Total Nonstop Bullshit.

[Blitz]

I like the idea of a Foley heel turn, but it was handled extremely poorly tonight.

[Corkscrewed]

Again I ask why wasn't Kane acting weird last May 19th?

Maybe this tragic event happened last May 19, and that's why he was fine before.

And it's connected to his masked self somehow.

And--aw screw it. You know the secret's gonna be something idiotic. Like he had sex with Rey Mysterio last year. So he's gonna show up on SD out of nowhere on May 19 and tombstone him to hell, but not before rimming up him real good.

[Xero]

And this is why Jim Ross is a terrible terrible play-by-play man.
I thought it was because he put the faces over and hated the heels. :roll:

[loopydate]

No. Although that certainly doesn't help. I'd be able to forgive the color-commentator-trapped-in-a-PBP's-body thing if he actually knew what was going on in the ring.