The Official Jack Thompson Thread

[Kalyx triaD]

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This spiritual sequal to the PTA thread details the best thing since the Save feature in games: JackThompson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29)! To the uninitiated, Jack is the self appointed warrior against violent videogames and everything generally cool in life. His acolades include trying to have game developers fined or out-right arrested for releasing M-Rated games, having WWE-like feuds with the industries top guys, and more or less sentencing gamers to Hell. Lovely guy...

He's also host to some of the greatest qoutes I've ever read in my life. Some are funny, some are anger inducing, many are outlandish, and few actually appear agreeable. For the most part, he's a Soccer Mom pretending to be a NASCAR Dad; with agro-religious undertones. I love and despise his existence with deep conflicted emotion. Let's hear him out...

Words of a Holy Attorney (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson)

[Kalyx triaD]

"PWNED Is Not a Word... as it is in serious need of a vowel movement. Somebody get Vanna White on the phone to buy one. Having said that, this entire site has been "pwned" by Jack Thompson today, and you pixelantes don't even know it."

Pixelantes.

"Lets say you make a kid feel angry; he is going to act out what he has spent hundreds of hours doing. He has spent hundreds of hours hurting people in virtual reality. And the thing that is doubly troubling now is the graphics are so crisp and so virtually real that the brain can literally not differentiate between real violence and virtual violence, I'm a lawyer who for 20 years did medically related work."

Then how come whenever a shootout occurs, nobody's trying to capture the flag?!?

[Kane Knight]

Lets say you make a kid feel angry; he is going to act out what he has spent hundreds of hours doing.

Fiddling with his joystick?

[El Fangel]

ok kane knight seriously, how do you get such funny things to say to come to you?

also Jack Thomson in my beliefs is a person, who trys to over-exaggerate the effects of violent games, while I do believe games are harmful, I see no problem with older members of society buying these games, I can see why he whould be pissed that a 6 year old kid can go buy manhunt or gta: san andreas, frankly im pissed too, thats sick. But for the older player 17+ which is the minimum mature age, what is the difference really, between violent games, movies, and books or any other form of media, what i find said though is that violence sells so well, are we such a sadistic race that violence is that appealing? Also there is one other place violence extremely persists and that place is called reality, don't believe me watch the news some night, bombings in the middle east, soldiers being killed, people getting shot, murdered, raped, beaten, kids being beaten by there parents, and alot of other stuff thats happens in the real world I find alot worse, and alot scarier then virtual reality, because you getting shot in a game may make you mad because you died, but in real life there is no save, there is no pause, and there isn't no reload button.

point in case the world and what everything in it has done and is capable off is scary

[loopydate]

I can see why he whould be pissed that a 6 year old kid can go buy manhunt or gta: san andreas, frankly im pissed too, thats sick.

But the thing is, a six-year-old kid can't buy Manhunt or GTA. They're both rated "M," which means that only someone 17 or older can buy the game. Which means that if a six-year-old is playing Manhunt or GTA, it had to have been purchased by an adult. And more than likely, it was a parent, who then goes on to complain that the game is too violent. That's why the ESRB rates games!

are we such a sadistic race that violence is that appealing?

Sadly, I think we are. It's always been a part of human culture, going back to the ancient Colosseum. Look at how we resolve conflicts. We don't sit down at a table and discuss, we drop bombs.

Also there is one other place violence extremely persists and that place is called reality, don't believe me watch the news some night, bombings in the middle east, soldiers being killed, people getting shot, murdered, raped, beaten, kids being beaten by there parents, and alot of other stuff thats happens in the real world I find alot worse, and alot scarier then virtual reality, because you getting shot in a game may make you mad because you died, but in real life there is no save, there is no pause, and there isn't no reload button.

You hit the nail on the head. And, personally, that's one of the things I find appealing about video games. As mentioned before, aggression is a natural part of human physiology. But, rather than going and beating up my girlfriend (in a hypothetical world where I'm not single, that is), I take out my frustrations on video game characters. Playing games like GTA actually helps soothe my inherent violence.

Of course, I was also taught when I was seven years old playing my first Nintendo that video games aren't real, and that the real world isn't like Super Mario Brothers or Kung Fu. That's why I didn't grow up kicking my classmates in the head. Again, good parenting can overcome a lot.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Oh, I spoke my piece on this moron a few months ago when the Hot Coffee scandal broke.

Loopy had it right. A lot of it is parenting, a lot of it is the ability of the stores to keep M/AO rated games out of the hands of those who are underage, and the other part of it comes from the common sense of people. Saying "kids will be kids" is not an excuse. Period. I don't condone the selling of M/AO rated games to minors, but this guy is what we in the real world like to refer to as a RADICAL.

I'm not a psychologist (although I'm striving/studying for that, or a physical medical major in college), but I think it goes to say that it's immeasurable how much better it is to play a violent game, then head out into the streets and commit a violent crime. Hell, common sense SHOULD lead someone to that conclusion on their own (although I give some people entirely too much credit).

I love it when I go to a gaming site, and I see people saying "OMG I WANT 2 KIL JAK TOHMPSON". Tools like that are just feeding into what he's saying, even if one of them never acts upon their comments. I find it funny that the state of Florida (I believe it was Florida) had him undergo a mental evaluation back in the late 80's (again, I think that's correct). If that doesn't speak volumes for this guy, I don't know what does. That, and in Alabama, his license to practice law was revoked or something. Didn't catch the full gist of it, but even the higher authority figures (judges, police departments, etc.) are laughing him out of state. And not just his state either.

He pulled a weird thing a while back with Penny Arcade, where he said he'd donate $10,000 to anyone who created a game that showed him beheading and urinating on gamers and game designers. Someone took him on it, but then he said the whole thing was satire. Penny Arcade actually donated $10,000 on his behalf, and wrote "For Jack Thompson, because Jack Thompson won't" on the check. So you can guess that he got pissy, called the Seattle Police Department, and they basically told him to never call there again with another complaint.

Bottom line, it'd be a crime if this guy kept his license to promote law in ANY state. Even several anti-violence groups and groups protesting the sale of Mature games to minors have distanced themselves from him, for fear that he may cause them to lose credibility.

[loopydate]

:lol: I forgot about the Penny Arcade thing. I read about that when it happened. I laughed then and I laugh now.

[Kane Knight]

ok kane knight seriously, how do you get such funny things to say to come to you?

also Jack Thomson in my beliefs is a person, who trys to over-exaggerate the effects of violent games, while I do believe games are harmful, I see no problem with older members of society buying these games, I can see why he whould be pissed that a 6 year old kid can go buy manhunt or gta: san andreas, frankly im pissed too, thats sick. But for the older player 17+ which is the minimum mature age, what is the difference really, between violent games, movies, and books or any other form of media, what i find said though is that violence sells so well, are we such a sadistic race that violence is that appealing? Also there is one other place violence extremely persists and that place is called reality, don't believe me watch the news some night, bombings in the middle east, soldiers being killed, people getting shot, murdered, raped, beaten, kids being beaten by there parents, and alot of other stuff thats happens in the real world I find alot worse, and alot scarier then virtual reality, because you getting shot in a game may make you mad because you died, but in real life there is no save, there is no pause, and there isn't no reload button.

point in case the world and what everything in it has done and is capable off is scary

Honestly, I think he's cashing in on the hot topic. His crusade is one of convenience that gets him on TV and allows him to get the attention he very much deserves. It allows him to persue his other interests, like deciding which of our goverment officials are homosexual.

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[Bad Company]

I hate Jack Thompson, always have, he can suck my cock.

[Bad Company]

"The 'video game community' surely seems exercised about someone who is a 'joke' and who is accomplishing nothing. You all seem rather bothered and worried about a nonentity. God is in this battle, and I am privileged to be a foot soldier. You all should be concerned, not about me, but about Him."

Oh shit, I didn't know he had the big guy on his side!

[Kane Knight]

If God is on his side, why is GTA more popular than the Bible Game?

[Kane Knight]

BTW, I'm scared right now.

[loopydate]

I'm not worried. God and I have an understanding. I don't use His name instead of making valid points in an argument (or for killing people I don't like), he doesn't smite me where I stand. I think it's worked out pretty well for the both of us.

[Kane Knight]

I've got a better understanding. I don't believe in Him, and He doesn't believe in me. ;)

[Skippord]

"The Bible doesn't promote killing innocent people, Grand Theft Auto does. Islam does. Islam promotes the killing of innocent people. The Quran requires the infidel, whether Jew or Christian, to be killed. ... That's a core essence of the religion. ... Muhammad was a pirate who killed infidels and who advocated the killing of infidels. Not a nice guy. Osama bin Laden is in keeping with his fine tradition." -Sun-Sentinel

ROFL

[Skippord]

"You just watch. There is going to be a Columbine-times-10 incident, and everyone will finally get it. Either that, or some video gamer is going to go Columbine at some video game exec's expense or at E3, and then the industry will begin to realize that there is no place to hide, that it has trained a nation of Manchurian Children." [11]


OK this guy is fucking nuts if he thinks that video games are at fault for Columbine.What caused Columbine is a bunch of retards letting kids buy guns.

[Drakul]

You know, there are sociopaths everywhere. Some of them are in government, some of them are at TakeTwo. In fact, we got a bunch of sociopaths in Edinburgh, Scotland, sittin' around in kilts sippin' their single malt whiskey spreading racial, hurtful stereotypes in this country
A shiney gold penny for the man whom brings me the testicles of Jack Thompson!

Wild goose chase!

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd pay $40 to have a 2hr chat with him at a dinner table. Serious.

[Skippord]

I would give 700$ just to kick his ass for 5 minutes.Mostly because he uses The tragedy at Columbine high school for his own gain

[Kane Knight]

"You just watch. There is going to be a Columbine-times-10 incident, and everyone will finally get it. Either that, or some video gamer is going to go Columbine at some video game exec's expense or at E3, and then the industry will begin to realize that there is no place to hide, that it has trained a nation of Manchurian Children." [11]


OK this guy is fucking nuts if he thinks that video games are at fault for Columbine.What caused Columbine is a bunch of retards letting kids buy guns.

Fuck, there's a lot of blame to go around:

The folks who bullied Klebold and HArris (and company) were known, and nobody did anything about it. Already, I can hear the one and Destor wwhining BUT YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!

A couple of people knew about this before hand. They did nothing.

These kids had the cops called on them, and apparently nobody, the schools or parents, did a damn thing. They were considered a legit threat by the police, and nobody took it seriously.

But it's easier to blame Doom and Marylin Manson.

[Kalyx triaD]

Combo: 5 Hits!

[El Fangel]

That was seriously the most retarded thing ever, blaming kids going on a killing rampage, because they play doom, and listen to marilynn manson?

in that case I should have the FBI and Homeland security
because I play Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom,and recently Doom 3 and I listen to Manson, alongside other rock and metal bands.
And guns are always around me because my Grandfather and Dad hunts, in total there is 8 guns 4 shotguns and 4 rifles.

and I have yet to kill anybody, not that I whould ever want to or even in an extreme case as someone trying to kill, whould I want to kill somebody.

They have video games opposition lawyers, such as Jack Thomson, who is equivalent terms would be considered as an extremist is that takes everything in the bible too literally, from what I see is that J.T sees videogames as a source of all problems and troubles related to kids, what I don't get is wht he doesn't seem to realize is that there is always other factors affecting violent outbursts, and rampages, such as what happened sadly at columbine they were bullied ( I Think) and tormented daily ( I think) again im not sure but this is what I heard, and from what I read no one did anything and they just couldn't take it anymore. This is what happens when no one listens, if they could have gotten someone to listen, and talk to and try to help them resolve the problems what happened probabily wouldn't have.

~TNA ROCKS~

[Kane Knight]

That was seriously the most retarded thing ever, blaming kids going on a killing rampage, because they play doom, and listen to marilynn manson?

Actually, I think the most retarded thing ever is "God is on our side" as a proclaimation during the War on Terrorism. If God is on our side, howcum they have all the oil? ;)


in that case I should have the FBI and Homeland security
because I play Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom,and recently Doom 3 and I listen to Manson, alongside other rock and metal bands.
And guns are always around me because my Grandfather and Dad hunts, in total there is 8 guns 4 shotguns and 4 rifles.

Don't worry about the guns. Guns are never the problem. Don't you know that yet?

To borrow from Bill Maher, there's a commercial in which a couple of kids get stoned, find their parent's gun, loaded and unlocked, and one of 'em shoots the other (Or something to that effect). "Only in America is the pot the bad guy in this scenario."

and I have yet to kill anybody, not that I whould ever want to or even in an extreme case as someone trying to kill, whould I want to kill somebody.

So you claim. However, I think you'll find it's generally a weak argument. In general. Not even just here.

They have video games opposition lawyers, such as Jack Thomson, who is equivalent terms would be considered as an extremist is that takes everything in the bible too literally, from what I see is that J.T sees videogames as a source of all problems and troubles related to kids,

First things first...

English motherfucker!

If for no other reason than the fact that your poor attempts at putting together thoughts does more harm than good. Jack Thompson rips apart semi-literate tards like you for an encore, after consuming the souls of dead babies.

Also, your unfinished sentences and total inability to spell simple words makes my head hurt.

what I don't get is wht he doesn't seem to realize is that there is always other factors affecting violent outbursts, and rampages, such as what happened sadly at columbine they were bullied ( I Think) and tormented daily ( I think) again im not sure but this is what I heard,

Both were pretty well established.

This is what happens when no one listens, if they could have gotten someone to listen, and talk to and try to help them resolve the problems what happened probabily wouldn't have.

Listening isn't the issue. Action is what it takes.

[Skippord]

Fuck, there's a lot of blame to go around:

The folks who bullied Klebold and HArris (and company) were known, and nobody did anything about it. Already, I can hear the one and Destor wwhining BUT YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!

A couple of people knew about this before hand. They did nothing.

These kids had the cops called on them, and apparently nobody, the schools or parents, did a damn thing. They were considered a legit threat by the police, and nobody took it seriously.

But it's easier to blame Doom and Marylin Manson.
An no one listened to them

[Skippord]

I could've gone to Columbine if I wanted too

[El Fangel]

I apologize for my poor use of english language and grammar.
But I am in school, and I have to do other work, besides type posts on the forums all day, so most of my posts are rushed, and not checked over before I post them. If I had more time, they would be in better english and grammar, but I don't have the time to do that and get work done at the same time.

[Kane Knight]

I apologize for my poor use of english language and grammar.
But I am in school, and I have to do other work, besides type posts on the forums all day, so most of my posts are rushed, and not checked over before I post them. If I had more time, they would be in better english and grammar, but I don't have the time to do that and get work done at the same time.

Don't lie.

Consistantly spelling "would" with an h is not an issue of being hurried.

[El Fangel]

I don't know whats up with me spelling would as whould (?) maybe it's that sub-conscienously I think it should be spelled like that because it rhymes with should, but it also rhymes with could, and everytime I write it as "would" it doesn't appear to look right. And im writing this post during my Communications Technology class, while working on making a video game that I want to get down before the next 8 days before school ends.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't know whats up with me spelling would as whould (?) maybe it's that sub-conscienously I think it should be spelled like that because it rhymes with should...

Surely you jest.

[Kane Knight]

I don't know whats up with me spelling would as whould (?) maybe it's that sub-conscienously I think it should be spelled like that because it rhymes with should, but it also rhymes with could, and everytime I write it as "would" it doesn't appear to look right. And im writing this post during my Communications Technology class, while working on making a video game that I want to get down before the next 8 days before school ends.

LOL. Then stop posting. If you can't take the 30 seconds to make a post like this legible, go away.

[El Fangel]

Nah, I think I will stay.

[Kane Knight]

Then stop lying about your "time issues."

Being rushed excuses typos. It doesn't cause you to forget the fundamentals of grammar and English. I should know. I've been a regular on this board through college, high school, and more than one job.

You're probably just some 13 year old who's retarded and jerking off to pictures of various nipples slips.

Excuse the typos, I'm in an important business meeting with Bill Gates. Yet for some reason, despite being involved in something that requires my attention so much I can't type right, I still take the time to read and post here. :roll: