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Stickman
06-14-2006, 03:28 PM
I gotta say baseball is the most grossly over rated sport. The world series is worth watching but seriously, do we need 162 regular season games? At least in the playoffs every pitch means something. Baseball isnt' really much of a team game. It's a guy throwing a ball and a guy hitting it back, and a bunch of other guys trying to catch the ball. Where's the teamwork?
I'd also say, since it's on ESPN, bowling and the spelling bee are terrible sports. They're not even sports. Same goes with Texas Holdem. I am interested in what you guys think are over rated sports.
Triple A
06-14-2006, 03:33 PM
I used to feel that way about baseball but I have been appreciating it a lot more recently cause I have been watching it all the time.
It definitely comes nowhere near football in terms of awesomeness, but it's sexy in its own way.
The Miz
06-14-2006, 03:46 PM
(American) football, but I still love it
Loose Cannon
06-14-2006, 03:49 PM
lol, how does baseball have no teamwork?
Defense is all about teamwork. You couldn't throw a guy out at the plate from right field if there was no right fielder, catcher or maybe cut off man, could you? That would be teamwork right?
You couldn't hit and run if there was no hitter and runner on base, could you? Teamwork?
The pitcher and catcher work together through the entire game.
Come on
no teamwork? Thats nearly as ludicrous when someone i know said it was a game without tactics!
Anyway, Ice Hockey, its fun to watch the fights, but seriously i spend all the game like WHERE DA PUCK BRU?!
McLegend
06-14-2006, 04:00 PM
NBA basketball
90% of the time its tough to watch.
NBA all star games however are about as fun to watch as sports get
The Icon of Elisim
06-14-2006, 04:11 PM
Ya NBA is the most overrated. It also has the most players with no heart than any other major sport as far as Im concerned
loopydate
06-14-2006, 04:46 PM
I'd also say, since it's on ESPN, (...) Texas Holdem.
Yeah. I'm seriously sick of this fad. It's fun to play, but I don't need it taking up two hours of ESPN, two more hours of ESPN2, and two more hours on FOX Sports per day that could be devoted to things that require actual physical exertion.
Gertner
06-14-2006, 04:46 PM
basketball
Team Sheep
06-14-2006, 04:47 PM
Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous to say there's no teamwork in Baseball. The guys on base can get 4 guys out in one play, which could ultimately (and most probably) decide a game. It's all about quick thinking, timing, skill and communication.
FakeLaser
06-14-2006, 06:53 PM
I would say basketball, but nobody really overrates it.
Football I'd probably go with but that's probably just because I enjoy baseball more.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
06-14-2006, 07:08 PM
Hockey
weather vane
06-14-2006, 08:02 PM
SOCCER
BCWWF
06-14-2006, 11:49 PM
I would have to go with NBA basketball. It gets so much coverage, but the games are about 1/4 as intense as college games. Like Icon said, there is no heart anymore.
As for baseball, I wouldn't say it is overrated at all, because I don't rate it highly, if that makes sense. Baseball, to me, is like a constant of the summer. I mean I go to maybe five games per summer, but it is always there and it is so easy to follow. The reason I mean it's not overrated, it's not hyped up as much as other sports. You go to a baseball game and it is a casual night, you go to any other sport and it takes your whole night. So basically, I think baseball is big because it is always there when you want something to do, it is incredibly easy to follow without spending your life reading about it, and basically just because it is a pasttime.
Gonzo
06-14-2006, 11:54 PM
I don't really get your points about baseball BCWWF, but I do agree I don't personally hype baseball up so I don't really think its overrated.
I love football personally, every game counts so much because there is only a 16 game season. Much more intense for me.
I don't really think sports can be overrated, some people will like it while others won't you know, so if someone doesn't think too highly of the NBA from square one, how can it be overrated?
100m Sprint.
Seriously, who gives a fuck who is the fastest person by foot, here in the 21st century. If you found out that 40km away was a suitcase with $100 million in it, who do you reckon will get there first - Linford Christie or Michael Schumacher?
toxic rooster
06-15-2006, 08:00 AM
Gotta say ice hockey.
People only ever watch it for the fights, and I can like never see the puck ever.
That makes hockey under-rated because of the fights, you fuckhead. :roll: :roll:
Pinnacle Charisma
06-15-2006, 08:11 AM
Soccer
Good to play shite to watch
toxic rooster
06-15-2006, 08:18 AM
Footy has better foights anyway, you dickhead.
BCWWF
06-15-2006, 01:06 PM
I don't really get your points about baseball BCWWF, but I do agree I don't personally hype baseball up so I don't really think its overrated.
I love football personally, every game counts so much because there is only a 16 game season. Much more intense for me.
I don't really think sports can be overrated, some people will like it while others won't you know, so if someone doesn't think too highly of the NBA from square one, how can it be overrated?
I just mean that I don't think baseball is overrated at all because it isn't shoved in your face like the NFL is. A baseball game doesn't dictate what you do all day, it is just there. There are a lot of shows on it, but if you miss a game or a Baseball Tonight, you don't really miss much. I just look at baseball more as a constant of life rather than a big, overhyped sporting event.
Buzzkill
06-15-2006, 02:13 PM
gonna go against the grain here and say FUTBOL
Joey Slugs
06-15-2006, 02:32 PM
going with the NBA
SecretDesire
06-15-2006, 03:19 PM
Baseball...I'd rather play than watch.
James Steele
06-16-2006, 08:00 PM
Baseball
Personally, I can't watch a baseball game for more than 3 minutes before I channel it. Plus, baseball is viewed as this immaculate sport that is godly...Fuck off.
Downunder
06-16-2006, 08:46 PM
AFL and American sports
yianni
06-17-2006, 04:18 AM
How many fucking times have these 'overrated' and 'underrated' threads have been done? They all end up with everyone fighting especially me and Y2C, and this thread will end the same way. AFL is overrated because they think they are the world's greatest sport when nobody else gives a fuck about them, even though they are thinking of expanding.
Skippord
06-17-2006, 04:38 AM
Gotta say ice hockey.
People only ever watch it for the fights, and I can like never see the puck ever.
Its really not that hard
Zen v.W.o.
06-17-2006, 03:36 PM
Hockey is the most underrated as it is the best fucking sport in the world. Has all the great things about every other sport, but none of the shit.
It's a fucking mans game too.
Overrated? Soccer. It's fun to play for a bit, but it's not very passionate or very high octane..ya know..moves rather slowly. And for the simple fact pretty much the whole world loves it, that makes it overrated.
The Naitch
06-17-2006, 09:39 PM
gonna have to go with Baseball here.
toxic rooster
06-18-2006, 08:16 AM
Overrated? Soccer. It's fun to play for a bit, but it's not very passionate or very high octane..ya know..moves rather slowly. And for the simple fact pretty much the whole world loves it, that makes it overrated.
That is one of the most incorrect things I have read, anywhere, ever.
Also, hockey doesn't have "none of the shit". The whole "where the fuck is the puck?" thing is hard to avoid.
Overrated? Soccer. It's fun to play for a bit, but it's not very passionate
Ok seriously seriously wrong here!
Supreme Olajuwon
06-18-2006, 11:47 AM
How is this even an argument? It's clearly auto racing. Nascar, F1, LeMans, all of it is soooooooo boring.
Team Sheep
06-18-2006, 02:13 PM
Lol, not very passionate. Try going to Anfield or the San Siro on a Champions League night buddy.
toxic rooster
06-18-2006, 11:09 PM
It was a nice troll, Zen.
But troll or not, still one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum.
Stickman
06-19-2006, 03:49 PM
How can you not follow the puck on TV? The camera is always following hte puck
Kid Robb
06-19-2006, 10:00 PM
Baseball by a mile.
Wog arse-fucking is the the most over-rated sport ever.
& people who like Australian football like it because it's the most exciting sport in the world - not because of what poofters from other countries think, so therefore only a retard who has no idea on what the word "over-rated" means can call it over-rated.
yianni
06-20-2006, 04:45 AM
Y2C is overrated.
People not shipping fat, ugly, smelly wogs overseas to where they belong is overrated.
yianni
06-20-2006, 04:58 AM
I agree the Lebos should be fucked off from Sydney.
Pinnacle Charisma
06-22-2006, 04:45 AM
I hate it when people badmouth AFL they always crap on thats its not world wide and noone outside australia follows it. Who gives a shit.
McDonalds is the highest selling resturant in the world. Does that mean it makes the best food.
The only people who watch soccer are people with low self esteem trying to fit in with "the rest of the world", and immigrants living in Australia who should fuck off to their native land.
yianni
06-22-2006, 11:22 AM
I hate it when people badmouth AFL they always crap on thats its not world wide and noone outside australia follows it. Who gives a shit.
I have no problem with people liking AFL solely. Ok soccer isn't your cup of tea, fair enough. What I DO have a problem with are the following people:
- Those that follow AFL and constantly bag the shit out of soccer for no reason. By this I mean Kevin Sheedy and co who just hang shit on the sport. Why? What the fuck has soccer done to you? They claim it will never catch AFL, well if it never will then why keep harping on about it?
- Those that bag soccer and have jumped on the bandwagon to cash in on the popularity (Footy Show). I know Eddie McGuire is a big Celtic fan, but the rest of them - what the fuck? These people are like Kevin Sheedy with blatant attacks on the game for NO reason, yet go to fucking Germany to do a show! Do you see SBS take their Sunday afternoon The World Game panel to the G for the AFL Grand Final? No!
- Those that CONSTANTLY compare AFL to soccer, be it deliberately or accidently. By that I mean pricks who go "ohhh 50 metres!" whenever someone is fouled, or calling the referees umpires or whatever. IT'S A DIFFERENT FUCKING SPORT, GET OVER IT IT IS NOT AFL. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE NAMES AND RULES OF THIS SPORT DONT FUCKING WATCH IT!
I will say it again, I have NO problem with people who like AFL and don't like soccer but never bag it. But if wankers want to hang shit on soccer unnecessarily then be prepared for AFL to cop it and for dickheads wanting to be smartarses to cop it like Sam Newman did in Germany. And speaking to a few of my AFL + soccer-loving mates ALL of them agree with me that the AFL and AFL people are full of shit in this situation and they should just leave soccer alone.
I was a big footy fan as a kid because I got more exposure to than I did to soccer, and my old man used to like going to AFL instead of soccer. But once I started going to soccer live, I grew more and more interested and my interest in AFL dropped off significantly. Since becoming more and more involved in my club I have seen first hand the blatant racism and prejudice against soccer by not only media and AFL but also the general public. So as a result I have grown very against AFL.
I'm more than happy to have a healthy debate about this subject but I'm not going to answer back in this thread to bullshit posts intended to shit stir (which is what I will 1000% cop back from Y2C).
By the way the above isn't directed at you P.C it's more of a general post.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
06-23-2006, 03:19 AM
they always crap on thats its not world wide and noone outside australia follows it. Who gives a shit.
McDonalds is the highest selling resturant in the world. Does that mean it makes the best food.haha I like that one
toxic rooster
06-24-2006, 04:57 AM
The only people who watch soccer are people with low self esteem trying to fit in with "the rest of the world", and immigrants living in Australia who should fuck off to their native land.
I don't think you've considered the possibility that there are people out there who simply like the game.
Lara Emily
06-24-2006, 05:15 AM
no teamwork? Thats nearly as ludicrous when someone i know said it was a game without tactics!
Anyway, Ice Hockey, its fun to watch the fights, but seriously i spend all the game like WHERE DA PUCK BRU?!
So you're blind then?
Lara Emily
06-24-2006, 05:19 AM
That is one of the most incorrect things I have read, anywhere, ever.
Also, hockey doesn't have "none of the shit". The whole "where the fuck is the puck?" thing is hard to avoid.
Not really unless as I said you are fucking blind.
Lara Emily
06-24-2006, 05:24 AM
And really for hockey how can it be overrated when sadly other than in Canada it is barely rated at all.
I don't think you've considered the possibility that there are people out there who simply like the game.
Yes I have considered it, and I have come to the conclusion that it is not true.
- Those that follow AFL and constantly bag the shit out of soccer for no reason. By this I mean Kevin Sheedy and co who just hang shit on the sport. Why? What the fuck has soccer done to you? They claim it will never catch AFL, well if it never will then why keep harping on about it?
Kevin Sheedy bagged basketball, not soccer you nounce. & he will spin up any shit to shift the attention from the fact that his team is shit. (Not only in the AFL, but their VFL affiliate side is going shit too; both in the seniors & reserves)
You bag "AwFuL" as much as anybody else bags soccer.
- Those that bag soccer and have jumped on the bandwagon to cash in on the popularity (Footy Show). I know Eddie McGuire is a big Celtic fan, but the rest of them - what the fuck? These people are like Kevin Sheedy with blatant attacks on the game for NO reason, yet go to fucking Germany to do a show! Do you see SBS take their Sunday afternoon The World Game panel to the G for the AFL Grand Final? No!
You jumped off the Carlton bandwagon as soon as they started to go shit, after a life-time of making the finals and buying premierships.
- Those that CONSTANTLY compare AFL to soccer, be it deliberately or accidently. By that I mean pricks who go "ohhh 50 metres!" whenever someone is fouled, or calling the referees umpires or whatever. IT'S A DIFFERENT FUCKING SPORT, GET OVER IT IT IS NOT AFL. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE NAMES AND RULES OF THIS SPORT DONT FUCKING WATCH IT!
You're always comparing the 2, such as South's score of 7 goals.
toxic rooster
06-24-2006, 07:48 AM
My sight is in fact very sharp, Canadian Crippler. The puck is just too fucking small, and no normal person can see it.
And really for hockey how can it be overrated when sadly other than in Canada it is barely rated at all.
Ice hockey is a great sport. A few problems with its take off is that it doesn't snow in half the world, and that less people would wanna go into a freezing cold stadium to watch a game of sport.
yianni
06-24-2006, 12:36 PM
Y2C, you are a fucking idiot. I make comparisons between the 2 firstly as a joke and secondly as a result of AFL people firstly bagging soccer. The South 7 goals thing was a massive joke couldn't you tell with the laugh icons :roll:. As for the Carlton thing, you are a fucking idiot. Even Kid Robb knows I bailed from Carlton before they went shit so fuck off with that bullshit. I dislike AFL now and will never go back to liking it so get over it.
And as for Kevin Sheedy not bagging soccer... :rofl: :rofl: Ive just died at that comment so fucking ill-informed and misguided, no idea :nono: :rofl: :o :lol:
Lara Emily
06-24-2006, 10:38 PM
My sight is in fact very sharp, Canadian Crippler. The puck is just too fucking small, and no normal person can see it.
Its people like you that caused Fox to bringin the glowing puck, needless to say peopel realised how fucking stupid it was and how not difficult it is to follow the puck and that was scratched rather quickly.
Its fucking easy to follow the puck.
Lara Emily
06-24-2006, 10:39 PM
Ice hockey is a great sport. A few problems with its take off is that it doesn't snow in half the world, and that less people would wanna go into a freezing cold stadium to watch a game of sport.
Arena's are rarely abolustely freezing cold but yeah I understand that hockey is hard to get into with no winter lol.
toxic rooster
06-26-2006, 12:22 AM
Its people like you that caused Fox to bringin the glowing puck, needless to say peopel realised how fucking stupid it was and how not difficult it is to follow the puck and that was scratched rather quickly.
Its fucking easy to follow the puck.
Not when it's too fucking small to see.
Lara Emily
06-26-2006, 03:38 AM
Not when it's too fucking small to see.
I go back to the whole you're blind statement then.
Y2C, you are a fucking idiot. I make comparisons between the 2 firstly as a joke and secondly as a result of AFL people firstly bagging soccer. The South 7 goals thing was a massive joke couldn't you tell with the laugh icons :roll:. As for the Carlton thing, you are a fucking idiot. Even Kid Robb knows I bailed from Carlton before they went shit so fuck off with that bullshit. I dislike AFL now and will never go back to liking it so get over it.
And as for Kevin Sheedy not bagging soccer... :rofl: :rofl: Ive just died at that comment so fucking ill-informed and misguided, no idea :nono: :rofl: :o :lol:
Oh, ok then. When you make comparisons about the 2 sports it's as a joke but then when anybody else does the same thing then it's them being scared of soccer. :roll: :roll: :roll:
I reckon it's hilarious that you (and lots of other wog cunts) spend your life claiming that Soccer will overtake AFL as being the biggest sport in Australia, yet when other people take notice of the sport you bag everybody for jumping on the bandwagon. :lol: :lol: :lol:
You can't have it both ways. :roll: :roll:
yianni
06-26-2006, 01:53 PM
Yes I can. Understand where I'm coming from cunt then come back to me! :roll: :lol: :roll: :roll:
Pinnacle Charisma
06-28-2006, 01:54 AM
Y2C and Yianni you are both as bad as each other.
Y2C does have a point though. Wogs always predict that soccer will overtake AFL but when it does reach some level of popularity. Wogs get all shitty and complain about all the extra supporters thier club has gained.
And Y2C Sheedy has given soccer plenty of shit thoughout the year.
But what I dont understand Yianni you give shit to all the panielists on the Germany Footy show edition but you exuse Eddie of all people. You do understand that Eddie is the CEO of Channel 9 and this show was most likily his idea and he is the one who hand picked the panel and decided to include Gary Lyon, Sam Newman and so forth. So if you pissed off about the that particular example of the media you anger is best directed at Eddie the rest are just minions who do what they are told.
If Eddie McGuire was so great then he would fork out $1.50 from his wallet and buy the soccer rights from SBS.
And Y2C Sheedy has given soccer plenty of shit thoughout the year.
The only reason why Sheedy says ANYTHING is to either promote his club or get the attention away from the fact that they are shit at football.
yianni
06-28-2006, 07:56 AM
Y2C does have a point though. Wogs always predict that soccer will overtake AFL but when it does reach some level of popularity. Wogs get all shitty and complain about all the extra supporters thier club has gained.
It's one thing to have new supporters to the game, but it's another to have bandwagon. I welcome those who have never followed the sport in the past but now are interested and make a genuine attempt to follow it and get to know the rules etc. I have no time for wankers who sit there going "ooo ump give the bloke a 50". There's a difference.
But what I dont understand Yianni you give shit to all the panielists on the Germany Footy show edition but you exuse Eddie of all people. You do understand that Eddie is the CEO of Channel 9 and this show was most likily his idea and he is the one who hand picked the panel and decided to include Gary Lyon, Sam Newman and so forth. So if you pissed off about the that particular example of the media you anger is best directed at Eddie the rest are just minions who do what they are told.
What so he's going to take The Footy Show to Germany and not take the core part of the panel? It wouldn't be The Footy Show then. I know Eddie's position at Channel 9 but I also know he's a big football man (soccer, whatever) and the various other times they have had people like Viduka and Kewell on the show he hasn't acted like a fuckwit. On another note I have noticed Gary Lyon has begun to change his tune about soccer in a few articles he has written ever since he has returned from Germany. He is now fasinated by the atmosphere generated by football and reckons both football and AFL can co-exist. It might be him trying to act like a cool cunt about it but if he's genuine then good on him, it's good to see him act differently than most AFL meatheads.
Pinnacle Charisma
06-28-2006, 10:09 AM
The only reason why Sheedy says ANYTHING is to either promote his club or get the attention away from the fact that they are shit at football.
No shit. I am well aware of Sheedy saying crap at press conference to hide the fact that they are shit. He is the master of deflection. Essendon gets pumped by 80 points and he has to do is crap on about how Paul Vanderhaar kicked 10 goals back in 1985 and the media lets him off the hook.
But the most recent time he has bagged soccer was during the irish/aussie series last year when he was the coach. His hatred agasnt soccer this time dosnt have anything to do with Essendons shitness.
Pinnacle Charisma
06-28-2006, 10:22 AM
It's one thing to have new supporters to the game, but it's another to have bandwagon. I welcome those who have never followed the sport in the past but now are interested and make a genuine attempt to follow it and get to know the rules etc. I have no time for wankers who sit there going "ooo ump give the bloke a 50". There's a difference..
Sometimes bandwaggoners go on to become long time fans. Exuse my ignorance but I have never meet or heard someone who has said "ooo ump give the bloke a 50" so I cannot comment on this as I guess we have a communication gap
.What so he's going to take The Footy Show to Germany and not take the core part of the panel? It wouldn't be The Footy Show then. I know Eddie's position at Channel 9 but I also know he's a big football man (soccer, whatever) and the various other times they have had people like Viduka and Kewell on the show he hasn't acted like a fuckwit. On another note I have noticed Gary Lyon has begun to change his tune about soccer in a few articles he has written ever since he has returned from Germany. He is now fasinated by the atmosphere generated by football and reckons both football and AFL can co-exist. It might be him trying to act like a cool cunt about it but if he's genuine then good on him, it's good to see him act differently than most AFL meatheads.
Yeah but It wasnt the panel of the footy show fault to go to germany and talk about soccer. I mean they where being offered money and a free trip to Germany for a once in a life time trip. I dont think any sane person would refuse that offer wheither he hates soccer or not.
And Gary Lyon is a champ. He used to be a hawthorn supporter before he got drafted. You wouldnt expect anything less from a Hawk man
LMAO @ Garry Lyon being a hawks man. :lol: :lol:
The only reason why he woulda barracked for them as a kid woulda been coz daddy played about 10 games for them. If you cunts had have let him play another 2 seasons then you mighta actually had a champion who wasn't a tool off the field. The Germ & Piggy Dunstall are a disgrace to TV/radio. & I love it how once we're done with a tard you guys put him on the coaching panel :lol: :lol:. Clarkson was a dud footballer and about as good as coach.
Also, your colours represent piss & shit.
yianni
06-28-2006, 09:46 PM
Sometimes bandwaggoners go on to become long time fans. Exuse my ignorance but I have never meet or heard someone who has said "ooo ump give the bloke a 50" so I cannot comment on this as I guess we have a communication gap
Nah you see it everywhere. I'm surprised you don't hear it much from the area you come from but yeah here I heard it heaps in the qualifiers against Uruguay in 2001 and 2005 and the Greece game last month. And that was at the game! Heard it and thousands of other AFL references at the Croatia game when I watched it at Fed Square (didn't wanna go there but my mate begged me to tag along). It's pretty shocking and pathetic.
Yeah but It wasnt the panel of the footy show fault to go to germany and talk about soccer. I mean they where being offered money and a free trip to Germany for a once in a life time trip. I dont think any sane person would refuse that offer wheither he hates soccer or not.
If I was from England but had watched AFL (lol) and got offered the opportunity to come out here for when the AFL finals were on, of course I wouldn't reject it. But I wouldn't come here and harp on with soccer propaganda
Pinnacle Charisma
07-02-2006, 07:51 AM
LMAO @ Garry Lyon being a hawks man. :lol: :lol:
The only reason why he woulda barracked for them as a kid woulda been coz daddy played about 10 games for them. If you cunts had have let him play another 2 seasons then you mighta actually had a champion who wasn't a tool off the field. The Germ & Piggy Dunstall are a disgrace to TV/radio. & I love it how once we're done with a tard you guys put him on the coaching panel :lol: :lol:. Clarkson was a dud footballer and about as good as coach.
Also, your colours represent piss & shit.
Massive ROFL
I am of course like every other sports fan. I dont like it when opposition suppporters give my team shit and usaully I dont get too angry when they do it (except sometimes for Geelong and Essendon fans) but I do get angry when Melbourne supporters try and give us Hawks shit (I say try because usally they have shitty points like you have just pointed out). Why you may ask why I get angry at Melbourne Supporters.
Its because Melbourne have been the only club in Australian professional sport history (and may as well the world for all I know) to have been weak, idiotic and soft enough to VOTE THEIR OWN CLUB OUT OF EXISTENCE. Yes Melbourne are that soft. And don’t bitch about money troubles or whatever because Hawthorn and clubs like Fitzroy had it way worse and even then their supporters didn’t give up on their original club.And yes I know it was called the Melbourne Hawks but it was still not your original club.
Not that NFL football isn't good, but it's so hyped that a person cannot consider it the most overated sport.
Massive ROFL
I am of course like every other sports fan. I dont like it when opposition suppporters give my team shit and usaully I dont get too angry when they do it (except sometimes for Geelong and Essendon fans) but I do get angry when Melbourne supporters try and give us Hawks shit (I say try because usally they have shitty points like you have just pointed out). Why you may ask why I get angry at Melbourne Supporters.
Its because Melbourne have been the only club in Australian professional sport history (and may as well the world for all I know) to have been weak, idiotic and soft enough to VOTE THEIR OWN CLUB OUT OF EXISTENCE. Yes Melbourne are that soft. And don’t bitch about money troubles or whatever because Hawthorn and clubs like Fitzroy had it way worse and even then their supporters didn’t give up on their original club.And yes I know it was called the Melbourne Hawks but it was still not your original club.
A majority of the Melbourne members didn't even get to vote on that fateful night, as they were locked out of the venue. It's a true story and if you don't believe me then read Joe Gutnick's book.
The only people who voted for the merger were Ian Ridley & all his cronies - if the members really believed that they wanted to merge then they wouldn't have kicked his arse out the door - and those who knew that it would have been a take over anyways. It would have been MFC + Dunstall & Crawford and we would have kept 95% of the jumper.
Pinnacle Charisma
07-03-2006, 09:09 AM
A majority of the Melbourne members didn't even get to vote on that fateful night, as they were locked out of the venue. It's a true story and if you don't believe me then read Joe Gutnick's book.
The only people who voted for the merger were Ian Ridley & all his cronies - if the members really believed that they wanted to merge then they wouldn't have kicked his arse out the door - and those who knew that it would have been a take over anyways. It would have been MFC + Dunstall & Crawford and we would have kept 95% of the jumper.
It wasnt just Ian Ridley and his cronies I have seen the numbers and the votes for pro merger where into thier thousands as where the anti-merger. It included a large number of the members. I can understand that a MINORITY may have been locked out but the sheer numbers involved in the vote suggested a large number.
And yeah the merger would have been more melbourne based than Hawthorn The jumper was preety much MFC but the base of the club was going to Glenfeirre (oh yeah does the demons have a training ground yet) and the team was going to be 50/50 not just crawf and Dunstall as both teams where as bad as each other back then (if I remember correctilly I think the demons finished last that year and hawthorn 12th or 13th). And it dosnt matter if it was a takeover or not mfc supporters are still and always will be piss weak soft cocks who will fuck off to the snow when the going gets tough. Even your beloved Gary Lyon said this last year (although not in those words)
The amount of people locked out were in the thousands. Given that it was about 53% who voted in favour of the merger then I'm sure that it would have made a difference.
Melbourne has training facilities at the Lexus Centre, as well as the Ground down at Sandy.
Hawthorn supporters have been much softer than Melbourne supporters in the past. Didn't you guys get about 9,000 to a game against Freo (or it mighta been Port) at the MCG a few years ago? Your team also sells more home games than us per year. Although I didn't hear Lyon's comments last year, they may have been toungue in cheek as we were actually able to score sponsorship off Bula last year for the start of the snow season.
Pinnacle Charisma
07-11-2006, 08:48 AM
The amount of people locked out were in the thousands. Given that it was about 53% who voted in favour of the merger then I'm sure that it would have made a difference..
I doubt that but even if that true you still have a shitload of supporters that wanted you to merge.
Melbourne has training facilities at the Lexus Centre, as well as the Ground down at Sandy. .
Before this year you had to change grounds every few months because you could get a lease on anything. Dosnt Collingwood own the Lexus Centre.
You might not think its a big deal but it is. It means despite being the oldest afl club you have no culture. You are like the freo of Melbourne clubs.
Hawthorn supporters have been much softer than Melbourne supporters in the past. Didn't you guys get about 9,000 to a game against Freo (or it mighta been Port) at the MCG a few years ago? Your team also sells more home games than us per year. Although I didn't hear Lyon's comments last year, they may have been toungue in cheek as we were actually able to score sponsorship off Bula last year for the start of the snow season.
It was something like 15,000 to 18,000 (aganst port btw). Fair enough too the hawthorn supporters and members (me included ) where fed up with the direction the club was going. We where bottom on the ladder after being talked up as flag favorites, Schwab was still coach at that stage, they where playing the same shit players and the same game plan. We where sending a message to the adminstration that we where not happy by the only way that would hurt though money.
Lyon has always been critcal of mfc supporters (if you can call them supporters). He has writen constant articles about this, he even said that when he was playing for the demons him and the players didnt think they had the total support of the fans.
And I dont think a melbourne supporter should call another clubs supporters soft. Melbourne is well known for having the softest supporters in the league
I think everybody who has posted in this thread thus far is a big smelly stubbly minge...
Not including myself and anybody who agrees with me
yianni
07-11-2006, 09:45 AM
I'll give you 5 bucks if you work out what the fuck's going on in this thread.
Yeah isn't that like barely enough for a pint in real money?
yianni
07-11-2006, 09:52 AM
I was going to give you Monopoly money anyway. :D
Downunder
07-13-2006, 04:40 AM
I can't see the fucking puck either
Collingwood doesn't own the Lexus Centre. I doubt that it's officially called that; that's just the name that Collingwood use.
11682 was the official figure vs Port in Rd 16 2004, that's the lowest that the MCG has had for a home & away game in ages. I'm not saying that there aren't alot of soft supporters of the MFC; our main problem is that there are about 20,000 MCC members who aren't MFC members, and that hurts the club dearly. Last year for the first 16 or so rounds we had the second greatest home-game attendences in the AFL.
And it was Schwab who claimed at the start of the season that Hawthorn would win the flag, after in 2003 Hawthorn won a few junk games at the end of the year when the season was already well & truly over.
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