NBA 2006 Offseason Thread

[Crimson]

Starts with the draft tomorrow. Toronto lookin to trade that #1? I'd take Morrison over anyone right now..and Roy will be a stud. I don't understand why these GM's keep drafting project big men within the first 5 picks, they usually never pan out.

[RoXer]

Not a "hot" draft this year but whatever. I picture Hassan Adams a good Scottie Pippen type of player. Hopefully he'll go to a team that needs that.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I am not excited for this draft. Celtics probably picking up a pointguard, all the projections I've seen haven't had any PGs going before the Celts pick at 7 so they will be able to grab whoever they think is the best at the 1. I read in the paper that Ainge is open to trading the pick and one of the Celtics current young players for a big name player, i'd love to see that. I am sick of this "rebuilding" bullshit that has been going on for basically my entire life (outside of a few seasons) The paper was throwing around huge names but that was probably just a bunch of BS.

ROFL@JJ Reddick being projected to go to Seattle in a few mock drafts I've seen, sure The Miz will love that

[SecretDesire]

I know this is offtopic but I really miss the grind of the NBA season. Actually kinda feel lost now. :) October cant comes quicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RP]

I'm hoping the Pacers make a deal to try to get Rudy Gay or Adam Morrison. I dont care what people say about Rudy Gay. The guy is one helluva a player. He'll get a fire lit under his ass in the NBA and when that happens, look out.

I love Morrison. Not because of his skill ( which is pretty basic and nothing special ), but because you cant teach a player how to be a fiery competititor and a winner. That guy is both. I love his EA commercial too.

My sleeper ( The player we'll be talking about in coming years ) Rodney Carney.

Who do i think the Pacers will draft?

I can see a situation where maybe Reddick falls and Indiana picks him up. I wouldnt mind that. I also wouldnt be suprised if they picked Quincy Doby with number 17. He's a Reggie Miller type guy.

Hassan Adams with number 45 pick would be sweet.

Trade Rumors :

The hottest rumor i've heard here in Indy involving Jermaine O'Neal is O'Neal and the 17th pick to Chicago for Ben Gordon, Tyson Chandler and the number 2 pick.

Doubt it happens though. I cant see Chicago letting Ben Gordon go. That guy is money.

[The Miz]

We will not pick poetry boy. If we do I might have to find a new team. I slowly lose more interest in the Sonics every year but if we pick that little fag... jesus. Where the hell did you read that though? I don't see how Redick could be a top 20 pick

My top 10 mock:

1. TOR - Andrea Bargnani (Italy)
2. CHI - Rudy Gay (UConn)
3. CHA - Tyrus Thomas (Louisiana St.)
4. POR - Adam Morisson (Gonzaga)
5. ATL - LaMarcus Aldridge (Texas)
6. MIN - Brandon Roy (Washington)
7. BOS - Marcus Williams (UConn)
8. HOU - Shelden Williams (Duke)
9. GS - Randy Foye (Villanova)
10. SEA - Ronnie Brewer (Arkansas)

[RoXer]

Miz, do you go to any Huskie games?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't really know, I definetly saw it somewhere and thought it was funny. Don't think it'd actaully happen.

I hope the Celts pick up Williams with their pick, i've heard a lot about Foye though and Im expecting them to get him instead. I watched a lot of 'Nova's games but nothing really stands out about him since they had so many guards playing at once. I remember seeing a lot of good things from Williams, whether or not that will translate to success in the NBA I don't know.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think Shannon Brown (Michigan State) is gonna a be huge sleeper in this draft. On this mock draft I am looking at right now (CBS Sportsline) they got him going to the Nets. That'd be a perfect fit for him, could easily see him running the wing in the Nets offense and banging it on Raef Lafrenz 4 games a year :(

[RP]

I dont care how much poetry he reads. I think he's gunna be a good player. I'd love to have him. He has Ginobli potential.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How is JJ Redick any better than potential 2nd round pick Gerry McNamara?

[RP]

I think Shannon Brown (Michigan State) is gonna a be huge sleeper in this draft. On this mock draft I am looking at right now (CBS Sportsline) they got him going to the Nets. That'd be a perfect fit for him, could easily see him running the wing in the Nets offense and banging it on Raef Lafrenz 4 games a year :(


Shannon Brown is fucking sick. I watched Big Ten ball all year. This guy would have blown up if he wasnt handcuffed by Tom Izzo's Paul Davis fetish.

[RoXer]

I could see Hassan Adams anywhere really.

[RoXer]

Hey Joey, stop talking about UofA.


Fine then.

[RP]

How is JJ Redick any better than potential 2nd round pick Gerry McNamara?


Are you fucking serious? You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about if you are.

[The Miz]

I dont care how much poetry he reads. I think he's gunna be a good player. I'd love to have him. He has Ginobli potential.

I'm pretty sure Ginobli does more than take long 3 pointers all the time

[The Miz]

Seriously though how can you compare Redick to Ginobili, their games are nothing alike. Redick is unathletic, slow, and an awful passer and defender. He has no offhand and can only go right to the basket. Ginobili is a slasher and is pretty much ambi going to the basket. He is a crazy passer and plays good aggressive D (yeah he's a flopper but so what, so is everyone else). Redick is a jump shooter and Ginobili is a slasher, just because they're white and play the same position doesn't make them similar

[RP]

For starters, Reddick is 2 inches taller and more of a pure shooter the Mcnamara. Reddick fits the 2 guard mold alot better the Mcnamara does. Mcnamara is not a point guard and he's only 6'2 which pretty much means he wont get drafted.

Mcnamara is alot more slower and cant even compare to Reddicks athletic ability ( which says so much cause Reddick isnt the most athletic player in the draft.) Mcnamara cant playe defense.

Reddick has good enough ability to drive to the basket and create his own shot or pass. Mcnamara has no way of creating his own shot unless its a fade from the arc.

Theres a major difference.

[RoXer]

Ginobili*

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Are you fucking serious? You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about if you are.
Obviously Reddick was a much better player in college, but do you really think Reddick's game will translate well into the NBA?

[RP]

I'm pretty sure Ginobli does more than take long 3 pointers all the time


I'm pretty sure you didnt watch a Duke game all year. Reddick can drive to basket and finish. He isnt a leaper and wont dunk on anyone, but he can make tough layups or pass kick the ball out. That along with the fact that he's one of the purest shooters coming out , is pretty deadly.

BTW i didnt compare anyone to Ginobli. I like how you turn my words around there. I said he has Ginobli potential.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Reddick [...] create his own shot or pass.lol

[RoXer]

Yeah. It's us. Not you. We're the bad guys.

[RP]

Obviously Reddick was a much better player in college, but do you really think Reddick's game will translate well into the NBA?


Well.. i dunno. Honestly i cant say for sure. Given the right system possibly yes. I dont think he'll score 20 a game, but he'll be a solid player .

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Reddick ability to drive to the hoop did improve greatly his senior year but I really can't see this guy being good guard in the NBA. Maybe like a Steve Kerr or something definetly can't see him being a Kirk Heinrich type (gotta keep the White thing going here)

[RP]

lol


Typing and playing poker and my poker screen kept popping up as i was playing.

[RP]

Reddick ability to drive to the hoop did improve greatly his senior year but I really can't see this guy being good guard in the NBA. Maybe like a Steve Kerr or something definetly can't see him being a Kirk Heinrich type (gotta keep the White thing going here)

I think he's better then Heinrich was when he came out.

[RP]

I cant even find where i typed Reddick...creat his own shot.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You sure about that statement? Heinrich was a first team all american playing in the national championship when he came out (Heinrich also dunked it baseline in traffic in that game) Where as Reddick lost in the sweet 16 I think (2 First team All Americans on the same team and they still don't make the final 4) and had 2 fast break dunks in his Duke career.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Post 18 line 9 or so

[The Miz]

I'm pretty sure you didnt watch a Duke game all year. Reddick can drive to basket and finish. He isnt a leaper and wont dunk on anyone, but he can make tough layups or pass kick the ball out. That along with the fact that he's one of the purest shooters coming out , is pretty deadly.

BTW i didnt compare anyone to Ginobli. I like how you turn my words around there. I said he has Ginobli potential.

I watched quite a few, thanks. He can drive but he only attacks the basket if he is wide open, if he ran into anyone he would immediately pass. He does not make "tough layups". You're right, he is a fantastic shooter. But that's ALL. At Duke they would have 3 people guarding him so he could easily find an open man. That doesn't make him a good passer. In the NBA no one is going to respect him that much. Saying he can create his own shot is fucking laughable. He is purely catch and shoot.

His fitness is a joke too. He never had anything left in the 2nd half, he would hit a bunch of 3's and go into the half with 25 points, then finish with 31 and everyone would go "what a game!" He has no chance of surviving in the NBA with stamina that bad. That's why his most likely role is a Keith Van Horn type off the bench (continuing the white theme). He never hit a big or game winning shot in his career, not becuase he was a choker but because he was too fucking tired at the end. Not a surprise he never did anything in the NCAA tournament because playing a game every other day is too much for him

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

btw "[...]" represents taking out words in a quote, if thats what you mean lol

[RoXer]

The Miz, do you go to any Huskie games?

[The Miz]

Yeah all of them. Free for students

[RP]

Yah, but they arent drafting Duke, or Kansas. They're drafting the player. Reddick was an All American also and sure he had a tuff performace in the tourney, but that shouldnt be reasoning for passing on him. No team is drafting this guy to be a superstar player that will carry there team. Same with Heinrich. Same with almost every player in this years draft to be honest.

I think Reddick is gunna shock some people. I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but i think its automatically assumed that because he's white and read poetry or some shit, that he'll suck in the NBA. I think he's a special player. I think he'll contribute in a large way for a team. I'm just saying that i would love to have the guy on Indiana. He's a winner , he can shoot, he can flat out play the game of basketball.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How is saying JJ Reddick has Ginobili potential not saying that you think he is a similar player to Ginaobili? Wouldn't you just say he has potential to be an all star? Than you said you don't see him scoring 20 PPG so I dunno where you going with this - Since Ginobili is more than just a "solid player." It's not like Ginobili is James Posey or something. So how exactly does JJ Reddicks potential have anything to do with Ginobili at all?

[RoXer]

What about away games? (We should meet up)

[The Miz]

He's a winner? What the hell did Duke ever win when he was there?

He's a shooter, yes.

He can flat out play the game of basketball? No, he can flat out shoot the basketball

He would be a nice guy to have as a 7th or 8th man off the bench to hit 3's while your stars are on the bench. But that's it. Not worthy of a top 20 pick

[The Miz]

yeah exactly, if you are saying he is the next Ginobili or a Ginobili type player than obviously you are comparing the two.

[RP]

I watched quite a few, thanks. He can drive but he only attacks the basket if he is wide open, if he ran into anyone he would immediately pass. He does not make "tough layups". You're right, he is a fantastic shooter. But that's ALL. At Duke they would have 3 people guarding him so he could easily find an open man. That doesn't make him a good passer. In the NBA no one is going to respect him that much. Saying he can create his own shot is fucking laughable. He is purely catch and shoot.

His fitness is a joke too. He never had anything left in the 2nd half, he would hit a bunch of 3's and go into the half with 25 points, then finish with 31 and everyone would go "what a game!" He has no chance of surviving in the NBA with stamina that bad. That's why his most likely role is a Keith Van Horn type off the bench (continuing the white theme). He never hit a big or game winning shot in his career, not becuase he was a choker but because he was too fucking tired at the end. Not a surprise he never did anything in the NCAA tournament because playing a game every other day is too much for him

Thats a bunch of bullshit. There was nothing wrong with Reddicks stamina. He did make tough layups and he did drive in traffic. I'm not sure where the hell you get your info, but i watched probably half of Dukes games ( Cause ESPN has a hardon for Duke ) and almost everything you say about Reddick is the exact opposite of what i saw from Reddick. I'm not sure how many games you watched, but i think you're talking out of your ass.

[The Miz]

What about away games? (We should meet up)

I've been to a Washington St and an Oregon game. But I refuse to travel any further. :mad:

One time when UA came up here my friend said some shit to Ike Diogu and Ike goes "Hey... shut the fuck up". It was awesome

[RoXer]

(you mean ASU :o )

[The Miz]

Thats a bunch of bullshit. There was nothing wrong with Reddicks stamina. He did make tough layups and he did drive in traffic. I'm not sure where the hell you get your info, but i watched probably half of Dukes games ( Cause ESPN has a hardon for Duke ) and almost everything you say about Reddick is the exact opposite of what i saw from Reddick. I'm not sure how many games you watched, but i think you're talking out of your ass.

I watched all the same ESPN games you did. Why did JJ always score 3 times as many points in the first half?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

While Hinrich doesn't exactly carry the Bulls (he is listed as team captain though) he is a career 15 point a game scorer to go along with 6 and a half assists.

Plus he is way more athletic than Reddick is. While I think a lot of times NBA puts TOO much in athletic ability, it is still definetly a factor. You think a guy who is 6'4 and can barely dunk is gonna have enough explosion in order to defend a NBA guard?

[RP]

yeah exactly, if you are saying he is the next Ginobili or a Ginobili type player than obviously you are comparing the two.


Are you dumb? There's a big difference between say Reddick is like Ginobili and saying Reddick has Ginobili potential.

With your logic, if Dwayne Wade has Jordan potential, then he's compared to Jordan? I dont think so.

Go look up the word potential.

[The Miz]

He also has no position. How many 6'4" guys with no D, no athleticism, and no strength do you know that start at SG in the NBA? And he clearly doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills to play the point. Bench is his final destination

[RP]

I watched all the same ESPN games you did. Why did JJ always score 3 times as many points in the first half?


I dunno, maybe cause teams went in at half time and made adjustments to try to stop him, which opened up his teamates, which made Duke a winning team. :roll:

It doesnt really matter when he scored his points, though i'd love to see these stats you speak of.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah the usual Duke fan (can't believe I forgot Duke basketball in that "One team you really hate post") reply about Reddick stats dropping later on in games is that either A.) the defense is now "paying more attention to him" (since you know, they didn't when the game started) B.) He is too tired from carrying the team earlier on or C.) he was at the lacrosse house last night

[RP]

He also has no position. How many 6'4" guys with no D, no athleticism, and no strength do you know that start at SG in the NBA? And he clearly doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills to play the point. Bench is his final destination


He isnt the most athletic player, but he has athleticism. I dont know how you manage to judge his strenght. Please do explain that one to me. 6"4 is not a bad size for a SG with his range and shooting ability.

[RP]

Its got to be pretty hard to build your whole defensive game plan around stopping one guy on that team with all the talent they have.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

With your logic, if Dwayne Wade has Jordan potential, then he's compared to Jordan? I dont think so.Yes, if you said he had Jordan potential than you would be saying that Wade has potential to become one of the top 10 players of all time, while playing a similar style.

Go look up the word potential.
Potential has a different meaning if you put a guys name infront of it, other wise you wouldn't use another persons name, you'd just use potential.

[The Miz]

So if Redick has Ginobili-potential, that means you think he could one day become a Ginobili type player. So in his NBA career he is going to learn how to play defense, handle and drive the ball with his left hand, become a slasher, and acquire crazy passing skills? That's a pretty impressive turn a round.

[RP]

I'm honestly not a Reddick fan boi either. I just think he's alot better then given credit for.

[The Miz]

I was wrong though, JJ does have strength. The strength of a condor

I can't see what my future has in store
but I move forth with the strength of a condor
The courage of a warrior
The commitment of an American soldier
Despite this weight on my shoulder
my inner forces circulate to form
a nucleus of an unbreakable bond
These words describe the soundtrack to my life's song
My mind and body united like the Colors of Benneton
My destiny isn't told by the creases of my palm
A sharp thorn once cut my soul
The blood flowed
But no bandage would cover the wound
I couldn't help but stare at the distant moon
Waiting for a resolution to come at an instant soon
I asked the Lord, "What am I to do?"
He said, "Son, I made the sky blue
The rain falls because of me
Leaves change colors on a fall tree
I was the inspiration to Martin Luther King
I'm the reason Ray Charles could sing
I've changed others through and through
And my son, I'll do the same to you"

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also if you said Wade had Jordan potential it would also mean that Wade should become one of the most marketable athletes ever, if the potential panned out.

[RP]

Yes, if you said he had Jordan potential than you would be saying that Wade has potential to become one of the top 10 players of all time, while playing a similar style.


Potential has a different meaning if you put a guys name infront of it, other wise you wouldn't use another persons name, you'd just use potential.


Yah, but are you comparing Dwayne Wade to Jordan right now today. Is he anywhere near what Jordan was today? The answer is no. Does he have potential to be . Yes.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

And? It is a fair comparssion(although I don't think it is true) since they are very similar type of players.

Reddick and Ginobili are not similar players so I think you just made my point for me...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm honestly not a Reddick fan boi either. I just think he's alot better then given credit for.
He is projected to make an NBA team and probably be the 8th or 9th man off the bench, that means that there is only about 260-270 better than you at basketball.

I don't think anyone is trying to say he is a terrible basketball player

[RP]

Also if you said Wade had Jordan potential it would also mean that Wade should become one of the most marketable athletes ever, if the potential panned out.


you're missing my point. Comparing a person to another person today. Is different then saying that person has the potential to be like said person. I do infact think he has that kind of potential.

Miz, your opinion is that he cant play defense, he cant pass, he cant make a tough layup. My opinion is the exact opposite based on what i've seen the past two years from him. So yes i do think he has that kind of potential. I do think he can be taught more and expand his game once he gets in the NBA to become that kind of player.

[RP]

Where are you reading these projections at?

[RP]

I'll concede this. I probably could have thought of someone other then Ginobili to compare his potential too. My point in the first place was that he is gunna be a good player.

[RP]

When i say Ginobili i mean type of player. Not exact skill sets. More like the impact of that type of player.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

That is my personal prediction about the 8th man off the bench, I've seen him going to Utah (lol another white guard) with the 19th pick. So obviously they think he is better than the 8th player off the bench but I dunno.

Anyone remember Trajan Langdon? Didn't think so

[RP]

That is my personal prediction about the 8th man off the bench, I've seen him going to Utah (lol another white guard) with the 19th pick. So obviously they think he is better than the 8th player off the bench but I dunno.

Anyone remember Trajan Langdon? Didn't think so


I'm pretty sure Utah will take any white player in the league. Did you hear that 3 way rumor of Boozer going to Philly, Iverson going to Boston, Szcerbiak going to Utah.:lol: What a joke.

But i'd say this. What was Gilbert Arenas, Boris Diaw and Josh Howard projected as.

Its all a matter of opinion. I know what Reddick i saw play last year and i disagree with Miz's assesment. Thats all.


I'm trying to figure if Indiana taking Quicny Dobey with the 17th pick is a stretch. Unless they trade the pick somehow, i'm thinking thats who they'll take.

[DaveWadding]

Anyone remember Trajan Langdon? Didn't think so

I do..but that's only cause that was the year there were like 4 Dookies going in the 1st round and he went like 15th and was a total bust...

because he was nothing more than a bomber.

Just in case RP tries to miss the point.

[DaveWadding]

I'm pretty sure Utah will take any white player in the league. Did you hear that 3 way rumor of Boozer going to Philly, Iverson going to Boston, Szcerbiak going to Utah.:lol: What a joke.


I'll just point out its because Mormons (the vast majority of the Jizz fanbase) hate colored people.

[RP]

I do..but that's only cause that was the year there were like 4 Dookies going in the 1st round and he went like 15th and was a total bust...

because he was nothing more than a bomber.

Just in case RP tries to miss the point.


whats your point:?:

[BCWWF]

He also has no position. How many 6'4" guys with no D, no athleticism, and no strength do you know that start at SG in the NBA? And he clearly doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills to play the point. Bench is his final destination

Steve Kerr had a pretty good career I'd think. He is 6-1 and a shooting guard.

I don't think Redick is expected to be a big time player in the NBA, but you are probably kidding yourself if you don't think he will have a fine career. He is a very competitive player and a very talented shooter. I wouldn't be surprised if he went down as a Steve Kerr at the end of his career, and that would be nothing to scoff at in the NBA.

[The Miz]

Celts trade #7 overall pick for Sebastian Telfair.

[The Miz]

Maybe Boston traded the pick because they no longer need it to draft a PG, because they will soon be getting Allen Iverson. Also, what are the Blazers going to do with 2 top 7 picks. HMMMM

[BCWWF]

Really? I kind of like that trade for the Celtics. Telfair never seemed to fit in on the West coast, specifically in Portland. The only thing is that there should still be a top player left, maybe Gay, at No. 7.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the start of another Portland trade, giving up the No. 4 and No. 7 for a higher spot in the draft or else some player. Don't know who that'd be though...Mark Blount????

[The Miz]

Doubt Gay will be available at 7. I think most project him as a top 3 or 4

Maybe they'll draft JJ Redick with the #4 pick and the rights to his poetry at #7

[The Miz]

This is unconfirmed but several sources are reporting that the deal is actually

Celtics get:
Sebastian Telfair
Theo Ratliff

Blazers get:
#7 pick
Raef LaFrentz
Dan Dickau (lol this poor fucking guy gets traded every month)

thinking more about this though, with all the KG rumors, 2 top 7 picks would be a nice start to acquiring him

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Celts trade #7 overall pick for Sebastian Telfair.
wow my friend who would probably suck Telfair's dick if he saw him in the street most likely exploded when he heard that trade

[BCWWF]

Paul Pierce, No. 4, No. 7 for KG?

I don't think it's going to happen, but that's a hell of a lot better than No. 2, Ben Gordon and Tyson Chandler. I still wouldn't do either, unless another decent player was involved.

[The Miz]

There's no way you'd get a better offer than Pierce and 2 lottery picks

[BCWWF]

I don't think Boston has any plans of trading Pierce though, and it really wouldn't make sense for the Wolves to trade away their team for draft picks and an all-star. There'd be no point of having Pierce around getting stats for a bad team, although that's basically what he's doing now.

[BCWWF]

WTF, this is the most fucked up draft ever. I just got home and there has been like 10 trades.

What I don't get, Brandon Roy for Randy Foye straight up? Is somebody retarded and named Kevin McHale? Trade No. 6 for No. 7 straight up? Come on.

[Loose Cannon]

lol Bobcats got Morrison. Everyone I know hates him down here.

[Gertner]

Jazz got Brewer:) i'm very happy with this. We'll actually have a back court this season!

[Loose Cannon]

haha, this draft should be an SNL skit with all these trades.

[Loose Cannon]

lol @ the crowd booing the Knicks.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Who the fuck is Renaldo Balkman? And why did the Knicks just waste their first round pick on him when Marcus Williams is available?

Fuck you Isiah. I'm glad I stopped giving a shit about basketball before the Knicks fell apart.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ROFLLLLL@ Dan Dickau getting trade again though

Telfair could be pretty cool in Boston, I haven't really followed his career but that special they had on ESPN on him made him seen like he is a pretty cool shit. I know he didn't really have a jumper coming into the NBA (doubt its changed much) so we'll see, probably better than any other guy we could have drafted regardless.

[BCWWF]

Come on Wolves, it's round 54 and Pittsnogle and Taj Gray are still out there. At least they have a remote chance at making the team!

[Gertner]

hahahah stupid Knicks!!


Woohoo, Jazz drafted Dee Brown as well. Brown and Brewer definitley address our awful guard position

[BCWWF]

Well the Wolves officially had a pretty stupid draft. For some reason they drafted Brandon Roy, many peoples pick to be the Chris Paul of this year. Then they trade him basically straight up for the player picked right after him. I don't mind since Foye is the man and will fit the team well, but that was a stupid way to go about it. For one, they could have taken Luther Head from Houston and swapped picks and still got Foye. Second, now there could easily be a stupid money dispute because does Foye deserve No. 6 or 7 pick money?

Then the second round, I don't know what it was but our second, second round pick, some guy from Miz U, was traded. Probably a really minor deal, but I want to know what it was. So we got a 6-7 power forward who looks alright, but c'mon he is 6-7. Then some guy from Greece, meh.

[ddpBANG]

Blazers are idiots.

Knicks are bigger idiots.

[RoXer]

SCHRAGER ON THE SCENE: The Orlando Magic take Redick, arguably the greatest shooter on Earth. Redick joins Dwight Howard and Darko Milicic on what instantly becomes one of the most intriguing teams in the league. The Madison Square Garden crowd boos. Unlike me, they apparently HATE J.J. Redick, AND his poetry. The "Over-Rated" chants start, and cameras flash. ESPN cuts to Dick Vitale and he seems to be crying. Redick then scurries off the stage so he can jot his thoughts down in a poignant haiku:
Taken by Magic
Will miss my Xbox at school
No More Appletinis

[RoXer]

SCHRAGER ON THE SCENE: Yikes. The roof's going to come off of this place. Personally, I don't think Isiah meant to take Balkman. I'm convinced he thought he was taking former Dallas Maverick and Knick great, Ronaldo Blackman. He probably remembered Blackman lighting him up in the 80s, saw the draft board, and decided, "Yes, yes that guy's good! Let's take him!" Charles Dolan then likely ate a $100 bill, took a bath in Poland Spring water, and said "Go For it!" The Knicks fans are beyond outraged. There's an "F-Dolan" chant going at full force, which I'm sure is really delightful for the ESPN sound crew. So the Knicks have Balkman. I can't wait until Isiah realizes it's not the guy he thought it was. And I can't wait until Nate Robinson hazes him next year. What a disaster this team is.

[RoXer]

SCHRAGER ON THE SCENE: Great stuff out of the NBA right now. They just handed out a bunch of faces-on-sticks of Russ Granik. The crowd has a "We Want Russ" chant going, too. You've gotta love Granik — the face of second round steals and NBA sturdiness. Granik looks like a dorky uncle, and who doesn't have a soft spot for their dorky uncle? Meanwhile, a British guy who looks 12 was just taken. Joel Freeland's highlights are not of him. The one ESPN just showed had him running the floor and not even touching the ball. Yep, just a shot of him running up and down a basketball court. Really, how could anyone pass on this guy? I'm stunned he slipped until 30.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

a British guy who looks 12 was just taken. Joel Freeland's highlights are not of him. The one ESPN just showed had him running the floor and not even touching the ball. Yep, just a shot of him running up and down a basketball court.ROFLLLLLL

[RP]

Indiana actually drafted someone whos scouting report used the word atrocious in it. I dont know , if any part of your game is described with that word, you probably shouldnt be drafted at all.

I loved how we passed on Marcus Williams too. That was amazingly funny. He's only gunna be a multiple time all star on the Nets when Kidd retires, but yah fuck him.

The one position we didnt need at all, Indiana drafted two of. Both players arent that good at all. Our first round pick probably would have been there at pick 45.

[RP]

WTF@ Houston giving up Rudy Gay and Swift for Shane Battier.

[The Miz]

Who the fuck is Mouhamed Saer Sene? Although I'm happy we got Denham Brown, I fucking hate UConn but I always saw him as a NBA player (not Ginobili potential though)

[The Miz]

lol @ the Warriors drafting 2 7 foot projects... I thought after drafting Ike Diogu and Monta Ellis last year they were beginning to figure out. Nah

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

After looking at it, Delonte West is already a better PG than Telfair. I figured Telfair would have a lot of assists or something but he really does not. He also does not score that much. Delonte averages more minutes but I dunno, his stats are a lot better than Telfairs, Telfair probably won't even start for the C's.

Celtics got a long of young (legit) talent at every position now though
PG: Delonte West, Sabastian Telfair, Rajon Rondo (We'll see about Rondo)
SG: Tony Allen
SF: Gerald Green
PF: Ryan Gomez
C/PF: Kendrick Perkins, Al Jefferson

Getting Theo Ratliff in that trade is kind of interesting too. If he has anything left, he could definetly help the team with a presence inside.

[The Miz]

Oh I almost forgot, WE GOT THE JEW!!!

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/headshots/yotam-halperin-hd.jpg
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/collegeteams/israel.gif
Yotam Halperin
Ra'anana, Israel

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am kind of glad to see the C's get Telfair tho instead of some random dude, I mean even if he doesnt pan out to be something great he is an interesting pick up either way. If they ended up getting someone like Thabo Sefalosha or Renaldo Balkman I'd be like "uhhhhh what"

Also, thank god they didn't draft Reddick

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Thabo Sefalosha lol cmon

[The Miz]

I don't know about you but I'd want a black Swiss guy on my team. We already got the Hebrew Hammer though so I'm satisfied

[Gertner]

SF Kirlenko
PF Boozer
C Okur
SG Brewer
PG Williams


Woohooo here comes the playoffs baby!

[BCWWF]

You realize that Telfair is 20 years old though right? He was the first ever point guard to go right out of high school, so if you consider that I still think he can become a very solid NBA player.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah he could end up being good, we'll see.

Kwane Brown was the first high schooler drafted first overall so being the "first" doesn't always really mean much.

[BCWWF]

That has nothing to do with it though. Kwame is far from the first power forward selected right out of high school. He is the first point guard to ever be selected right out of high school, which means that under normal circumstances he would be going into his junior year right now. Say Marcus Williams for example, drafted No. 21 by New Jersey this year. If he puts up 9.5 points and 3.6 assists in 24 minutes per game, it will be considered a solid rookie season. Telfair has a long way to go before he is called a star or a dud.

[Crimson]

The Celtics are stocking up to trade for A.I

[BCWWF]

The Hawks look to have a package including Josh Smith and Al Harrington. I think there is one more player but I forget who.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't really see why it matters if he was the 1st all time or 8th all time PG drafted out high school. Also he wasn't the first PG drafted straight out of high school, LeBron James was drafted the year before him.

He is only 5'11 so we'll see, hopefully he can tap into his potential. Ainge also said they got Telfair to have him play for the Celtics, not to trade him to Philly for Iverson so we'll see if that holds true or not.

[BCWWF]

LeBron James is a forward who is talented enough to play point guard when needed.

I don't get what you don't understand? You can't compare Telfair to anybody, ever, so there is no reason to question his upside when he is 20 years old and still developing.

The fact that he was the first point guard to enter the draft out of high school isn't where the emphasis is. The fact is that Telfair is 20 years old, and any 20 year old point guard in the NBA who averages nearly 10 points and four assists in 24 minutes would be right on track to have a successful NBA career.

What I am saying is that you basically got a rookie who has a lot of upside who also happens to have two years practicing with NBA players and playing solid minutes (albiet for an awful team) instead of playing for a college.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LeBron is probably listed as a SG but I'd say he is a PG. He was definetly a PG coming out of SMSV high school.

I wasn't really saying that was the emphasis, I was just saying that Telfair being the first or second or thrid really has no factor on anything really.

I'm definetly happy to see the Celts get Telfair since he would be better than other option that they could have drafted. All this talk about the Celtics getting a good veteran kind of got me amped up tho but oh well. If half of these young guys the C's have right now pan they could be in a pretty good spot for the future.

[BCWWF]

The reason that Telfair being the first PG picked has any significance is because he is basically a rookie with two years of NBA experience instead of NCAA experience. The main reason that I think he has upside is because he is 20 though, the only reason I mention that he was the first PG picked is because it makes it impossible to compare his progress with anybody.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah thats what Ainge really liked about him, that he has logged "X" (forget how many) minutes in the NBA. Probably said it like 200 times in the press conference.

Definetly gonna be interesting to see what he can do but Delonte West will probably still end up beating him out for the starting spot and I can see him keeping it. While Telfair is only 21, Delonte isn't even 23 yet even though he went to college for a few years so they are pretty similar in that regard. I like how Telfair is more about getting his teammates involved (I remember him trying to get the asists record at the McDonalds All-American game) but West is a much better shooter than Telfair ever will be so next year should be interesting. I am definetly glad the Celtics actaully got an interesting pick, if they just ended up with Rondo without getting Telfair it'd kinda be like the same old shit - some random guy I barely remember from college.

[BCWWF]

Yeah I have been hearing a lot of good things about Delonte. Was he the guy who was Jameer Nelson's sidekick during that run in 2004?

[DaveWadding]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2506311

ESPN reporting the Raps have traded Villanueva to the Bucks for TJ Ford.

[CNM]

Yeah I have been hearing a lot of good things about Delonte. Was he the guy who was Jameer Nelson's sidekick during that run in 2004?

Yes

[D Mac]

Heard a rumour on the radio today that Kevin Garnett could go to the Bulls.

[The Greater Power]

I'm kinda pissed about TJ leaving, but the more I think about it, the more I LOVE the trade.

Ford was good for like 10-14 points and 8-10 assists a night....good numbers but not GREAT. Magloire isn't doing anything for us, so picking up Villanueva was a solid move.

Now we need to ship Magloire for someone

[DaveWadding]

Peja verbally agrees to a 5 year/65 million deal with the Hornets :eek:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-hornets-stojakovic&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I have been hearing a lot of good things about Delonte. Was he the guy who was Jameer Nelson's sidekick during that run in 2004?
Yeah he has switched over to the point since coming to the NBA and has done a pretty good job. Hopefully will continue to improve as well. I dunno, just seems like the Celtics are going into the season with the same team they had last season without that many improvements. Really banking on a lot of young guys for next year if they wanna do any better than they did this season, can't expect all of them to turn out into good players.

[SammyG]

Lake Show got Radmanovic. Clips got Tim Thomas.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I guess Chicago is pushing hard for Ben Wallace - that'd be interesting

[RoXer]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0702suns0702.html

Link for Clips signing Thomas

[RoXer]

Bobby Jackson agrees with New Orleans

[BCWWF]

1. Kevin Garnett isn't being traded to the Bulls

2. I think I like the TJ Ford trade for both teams. Villanueva was kind of a risky draft pick by the Raptors and ended up being one of the top two or three rookies. Well, there is a reason why he was such a risky draft pick and there is a reason why Colangelo is such a good GM. So instead of banking that Charlie continues to be a good player without problems, trade him for a direct need. TJ Ford is a very solid point guard who I think still has a lot of upside. I was a big fan of him at Texas and was disappointed to see him sidelined for so long. On Milwaukees front, a guy like Villanueva is probably of more use to them. I don't forsee him getting any worse, because I don't think his problems are like that, but if he can still be a solid forward for the Bucks it could lead to good things.

[BCWWF]

Man, if New Orleans can get PJ Brown to come back they should have a pretty solid squad.

[RoXer]

Piatowski signs with Suns

[RP]

Wallace to Bulls

[The Miz]

PG Chris Paul, Bobby Jackson
SG Desmond Mason, Kirk Snyder
SF Peja Stojakovic, Rasual Butler
PF David West, Cedric Simmons
C Tyson Chandler, Hilton Armstrong

Looks like a contender to me

[BCWWF]

Not according to some genius at ESPN.com. One of their "Insiders" had a big column about the Hornets acting like they are legit when they are not. I would call a team that consists of a rookie and PJ Brown nearly making the playoffs very close to legit. I don't think they'll win a title, but I'd be pretty shocked if they aren't in the final 16 next year.

[RP]

PG Chris Paul, Bobby Jackson
SG Desmond Mason, Kirk Snyder
SF Peja Stojakovic, Rasual Butler
PF David West, Cedric Simmons
C Tyson Chandler, Hilton Armstrong

Looks like a contender to me


Desomnd Mason = crap
Kirk Snyder =?
Peja = Wait until he disapeers in the playoffs with some mysterious knee injury. I will be laughing my ass off. It will happen.

West and Simmons = Nice players, but still pretty far from playoff caliber. Maybe a year or so away.

Tyson Chandler= One hugely overrated peice of crap.

This team isnt playoff caliber imo. In the East maybe, but not the West. Unless Chris Paul just totally blows up like Steve Nash or something.

[BCWWF]

I wouldn't go as far as to call Desmond Mason "crap". A front court of Hilton Armstrong, Tyson Chandler and Cedric Simmons can easily survive in the new Western Conference. Houston will still be awful and I am not holding my breathe for Pau Gasol to do anything spectacular. The Hornets will finish third in the division and seventh in the West.

[BCWWF]

Partially since I am bored, partially for justification...

1. Dallas
2. Phoenix
3. San Antonio
4. Los Angeles Clippers
5. Los Angeles Lakers
6. Denver
7. New Orleans
8. Sacramento

[BCWWF]

That's right, FUCK YOU MEMPHIS

[mrslackalack]

Partially since I am bored, partially for justification...

1. Dallas
2. Phoenix
3. San Antonio
4. Los Angeles Clippers
5. Los Angeles Lakers
6. Denver
7. New Orleans
8. Sacramento


Good picks. I think almost every team in the West has possible playoffs teams, The 8 you listed and Memphis, Houston, Utah, Seattle and GS. Minnesota is still too young and Portland has been trading guys like they are Pokemon lately.

[The Miz]

I forgot New Orleans was in the West. Nevermind

Golden State could be pretty damn good if Baron Davis could not get injured all the time. They probably won't contend until they get rid of Dunleavy and Foyle though

[Joey Slugs]

I guess Chicago is pushing hard for Ben Wallace - that'd be interesting

As of July 12th, he'll be a Bull.

[BCWWF]

Golden State still doesn't have a frontcourt does it?

[mrslackalack]

Golden State still doesn't have a frontcourt does it?


Nope but most anylists think of they had one theyd be a title contender.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yo chill guys, the title is coming back to Boston next season. You know whos bringing it here? Theo Rattliff and Leon (Chris Berman makes millions saying things like this) KUNG Powe

[RP]

Getting Marquis Daniels is a very interesting aquisition for Indiana. I've liked this guy alot. I'm not sure why he got burried in Dallas for. He was hot his rookie season and then they paid him big money and burried him. Indiana is apprently going athletic and getting rid of there white guys. I think this move could be a sleeper pick for move of the year once next season is about done. Now if we can just get rid of Stephen Jackson, Jamal Tinsley, and get David Harrisons head screwed on straight. We might contend . Oh yah. Maybe get Jermaine O'neal out of diapers for a full season would be nice too. He seriously needs to man up from day one of next season or i guarantee you he'll be traded before the deadline. I promise that.

[mrslackalack]

Heres how I see the East.

1. Miami
2. Chicago
3. New Jersey
4. Detroit
5. Cleveland
6. Indiana
7. Orlando
8. Washington

[mrslackalack]

Getting Marquis Daniels is a very interesting aquisition for Indiana. I've liked this guy alot. I'm not sure why he got burried in Dallas for. He was hot his rookie season and then they paid him big money and burried him. Indiana is apprently going athletic and getting rid of there white guys. I think this move could be a sleeper pick for move of the year once next season is about done. Now if we can just get rid of Stephen Jackson, Jamal Tinsley, and get David Harrisons head screwed on straight. We might contend . Oh yah. Maybe get Jermaine O'neal out of diapers for a full season would be nice too. He seriously needs to man up from day one of next season or i guarantee you he'll be traded before the deadline. I promise that.

Besides diapers getting J'Oneal out of the IL or suspensions would be nice as well.

[BCWWF]

Jermaine sucks, he was on the verge a couple years ago but he is done. You should trade him while he still has some value. Marquis Daniels for Croshere isn't a bad trade for either team I think. Dallas was just loaded with the swingmen.

This is my East:
1. New Jersey
2. Cleveland
3. Miami
4. Chicago
5. Washington
6. Detroit
7. Orlando
8. Milwaukee

[BCWWF]

LeBron resigned, not too surprised. Much ado about nothing if you ask me.

Also, I was just reading a Pat Forde column on ESPN.com and this stood out.

Class of 2007 star O.J. Mayo, from Cincinnati, reportedly has made a surprising oral commitment to Southern California (an arrangement that, if consummated, won't last longer than the Trojans' final dribble of the 2007-08 season). Class of 2009 star Renardo Sidney -- whose father, a former school security guard, is now a paid Reebok "consultant" -- has moved from Mississippi to L.A., according to several media reports.

Lol, college basketball is fucked up.

[Joey Slugs]

The Bulls are going to be a MAJOR force next season.

[The Outlaw]

I watched quite a few, thanks. He can drive but he only attacks the basket if he is wide open, if he ran into anyone he would immediately pass. He does not make "tough layups". You're right, he is a fantastic shooter. But that's ALL. At Duke they would have 3 people guarding him so he could easily find an open man. That doesn't make him a good passer. In the NBA no one is going to respect him that much. Saying he can create his own shot is fucking laughable. He is purely catch and shoot.

His fitness is a joke too. He never had anything left in the 2nd half, he would hit a bunch of 3's and go into the half with 25 points, then finish with 31 and everyone would go "what a game!" He has no chance of surviving in the NBA with stamina that bad. That's why his most likely role is a Keith Van Horn type off the bench (continuing the white theme). He never hit a big or game winning shot in his career, not becuase he was a choker but because he was too fucking tired at the end. Not a surprise he never did anything in the NCAA tournament because playing a game every other day is too much for him

I watched all the same ESPN games you did. Why did JJ always score 3 times as many points in the first half?


I thought these statements looked familiar.


I don't really see how you can use the argument of oh he scores all his points in the first half so he isn't clutch, kind of reaching there but ok. Let's take a look at the last 5 games Duke has won and see if JJ only scored his points in the first half.

3/12 against BC - 11 points in the first half and 15 in the second half.
3/11 against WF - 6 points in the first half and 14 in the second half.
3/10 against UM - 9 points in the first half and 16 in the second half.
3/4 against UNC - 11 points in the first half and 7 in the second half
3/1 against FSU - 14 points in the first half and 16 in the second half

I mean, do I really need to go on? You make it sound like he disappears when they are down or in the clutch. He scores 27 points a game when they win compared to 30 when they lose. He scores more on the road and in hostile environments. I don't really see how you can say he doesn't come through in the clutch. He's not going to hit every shot, that's pretty much a given. But if I was a coach and I needed a basket, I don't know if I could say I would want anyone else with the ball besides him.



I get so tired of hearing everyone on here bash JJ because he can't "hit the clutch shot". Let's take a look at the big games and how he has performed.

Texas - 13/24, 9/16, 6/6
North Carolina - 12/22, 5/10, 6/6
North Carolina State - 7/15, 4/11, 10/10
Boston College - 8/18, 3/6, 9/10
Wake Forest (big game at the time) - 12/21, 5/13, 3/4
Indiana - 10/17, 4/8, 5/6


This was a while back too. Don't really want to start any of the old dead arguments up again, but everyone seems to have some kind of wild image that the guy never scored in the second half and never hit big shots.

[BCWWF]

Apparently Miami is in the Mike James lottery now too, although I don't know why he would go there when they will still have Jason Williams, Gary Payton and Dwayne Wade (to an extent) next year.

[RP]

The Outlaw







:yes:

[mrslackalack]

We played Mayo in high school and got whipped. Hes quite old though as he had his license in Middle School. Suprised to hear him go to USC as Cincy and Kansas St. and UCF was his top 3 choices.

[BCWWF]

Huggins wasn't ever going to get a recruit like Mayo to spend a year in Manhattan, Kansas. Cincinnati was out of the question when Huggins left. As for UCF, is that Central Florida? Do they even have a basketball team.

[RoXer]

If Mayo goes to the Pac 10 then that sohuld be interesting

[BCWWF]

Bill Walker just got ruled ineligable for his senior year, wonder what happens now.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Some of these kids are such fucking idiots, thank god they can put a ball into a hoop otherwise who knows what the fuck they would be doing.

[RoXer]

See: Vince Young

[samichna]

BREAKING NEWS

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story/?ID=171077&hubname=

Marijuana found in Carmelo Anthony's car

Associated Press
7/11/2006 6:48:02 PM

LOCHBUIE, Colo. (AP) - Police found marijuana in Carmelo Anthony's car during a traffic stop, but the Denver Nuggets star wasn't in the vehicle at the time, officers said Tuesday.
Anthony and team officials refused to comment. Anthony is set to sign an $80-million US, five-year contract extension on Wednesday.
Police said Tyler Brandon Smith, who identified himself as Anthony's friend and roommate, was pulled over late Sunday in this small town 32 kilometres northeast of Denver and cited for marijuana possession and three traffic infractions.
Police said Smith was driving the 2005 Dodge Magnum, which was registered to Anthony's company, Melo Enterprises. Police said two other men were in the car, but they were not cited and their names were not released.
Police Sgt. Dan Boyle said Smith was pulled over just before 11 p.m. Sunday on Interstate 76 in Lochbuie, a town of 3,300. An officer smelled marijuana and found a small amount in the centre console of the car, Boyle said.

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Smith was issued summonses for possession of less than an ounce of marijuana, driving in the passing lane when prohibited, failing to drive in a single lane and failing to present proof of vehicle insurance.
Each charge is a misdemeanour. The marijuana charge carries a fine of up to $100 US for conviction but no jail time.
Smith was released and the car was returned to him because his address was the same as Melo Enterprises, Boyle said.
No phone numbers were available for Smith or Melo Enterprises.
Bill Duffy, president of BDA Sports Management, which represents Anthony, told the Rocky Mountain News that Anthony was out of town Sunday and had nothing to do with the incident. Duffy did not immediately return a call from The Associated Press.
It was the second time Anthony has been linked to marijuana. In October 2004, Denver airport inspectors found marijuana in his backpack, but prosecutors dropped a drug charge after a friend said the marijuana was his and Anthony didn't know about it.
Anthony has also made headlines for a bar fight in New York and an appearance in a bootleg DVD in Baltimore in which a man threatened to kill drug snitches.
He averaged a career high in points last season and led the Nuggets to the top of the Northwest Division despite a rash of injuries.

[mrslackalack]

See OJ Mayo.

[mrslackalack]

Big pickup for Minnesota with Mike James.

[BCWWF]

I am just a little skeptical because he had career numbers, not even close, last year. If he can put up 15-5 a game though, assume 22 from Garnett, 20 from Davis, 14 from Foye, we'd be a decent center away from the playoffs.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol CBSSportsLine's title for the Camerlo thing was like "Pot found in Carmelo's Ride" or something like that. Real professional

[BCWWF]

Although it's not the first time something like this has happened, doesn't the fact that he was not even in the car make the story somewhat irrelivant? Or at least not this sensational.

[mrslackalack]

Rumors are Al Harrington to GS which would be a HUGE pickup for them, now if they can get a good center.

[The Icon of Elisim]

ESPN insider says that both the Raptors and Suns are offering John Salmons 5 year contracts for 27 and 22 million respectively. This seems pretty ridic but I guess this is the new trend in the NBA

[BCWWF]

Who is John Salmons? Is he the Europlayer of the year guy or whatever?

[mrslackalack]

Who is John Salmons? Is he the Europlayer of the year guy or whatever?

Salmons was a star player for Miami Hurricanes during the years they were making the NCAA tournament. He went undrafted however but has overachieved in his NBA career. Many say if he did not have to back up Iggy in Philly that he could break out as a very good player. I believe Suns and Raptors seen him as a sleeper and thats why the Raptors traded for him.

[SammyG]

I kinda feel sorry for Battier, like he is genuinely a really nice guy, and didn't want to get traded, poor fella...

[Johnny Vegas]

John Salmons is a pretty good player. And his height gives him a great advantage at the PG position (he is 6'7).

My team is Philadelphia...i'm sorry, but these guys DO NOT need to trade Iverson, more of building a team around him. At 31, the guy is not slowing down one bit. I see another good 5-6 years out of him. I want to see him win at least ONE ring...i think he deserves it.

He's going to go down as one of those "Greatest NBA players to never win a championship" if KING doesn't do something fast.

[CNM]

I think AI will end up in Denver, which would be awesome

[BCWWF]

Where did Battier go to?

[DaveWadding]

Houston.

[mrslackalack]

I think AI will end up in Denver, which would be awesome

I have heard that rumor as well. AI to Denver for K-Mart, Watson and a 1st Rd pick.

[mrslackalack]

AI said tonight he wants to stay in Philly.

[Johnny Vegas]

Where did you hear this? If is this true, hell fucking yea.

[mrslackalack]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-76ers-iverson&prov=ap&type=lgns

[CNM]

I have heard that rumor as well. AI to Denver for K-Mart, Watson and a 1st Rd pick.

Actually, Watson doesn't play for the Nuggs anymore, but Andre Miller would be involved

[CNM]

Oh, and expect the Bulls to trade JR Smith to the Nuggets in the next few days

[DaveWadding]

source? :shifty:

[BCWWF]

LOL, I was just flipping through the channels and on the Hallmark Channel there was a basketball game shot, then I realized it was Walker Texas Ranger and then I saw Mark Cuban. It was old, looked like before he was real famous or anything. But there were super generic shots of the Mavericks including Shawn Bradley. Then Cuban lets this kid sit by him and lets him randomly run out on the court and shag balls for Shawn Bradley and co. At the end, the kid is walking out and says something like "Mr. Cuban is really a nice guy." Classic.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Paul Pierce STAYIN IN THE BEAN

[mrslackalack]

Paul Pierce STAYIN IN THE BEAN

:y:

[Buzzkill]

yo wheres the blazer love

[Buzzkill]

just cause we had the worst record in the league last year and the lowest field goal % and the lowest free throw % doesn't mean we aren't a LEGIT BASKETBALL ORGANIZATION.

[Buzzkill]

Aldridge and Roy will give us a solid start, then if we do shitty again this year and get in the lottery and pray that the lottery does not fuck us over again, we will get greg oden, and then have the aldridge/oden 1-2 punch ala david robinson and tim duncan, along with recently named rookie of the year brandon roy in the back court.
POW

[Buzzkill]

then we'll probably trade them all away and start rebuilding

[RP]

and then you'll hire Isaiah Thomas

[Buzzkill]

ooh we have potential bargaining chips with randalph and miles too.

[BCWWF]

Foye > Roy

[RP]

ooh we have potential bargaining chips with randalph and miles too.



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Best post of this thread.

Who you gunna bargain for, Ricky Davis?

[Buzzkill]

by themselves, nobody will want them. As a package deal, we could maybe land a player that is maybe on par with the two of them combined, but without the attitude

[CNM]

Haha, no one would want them in a package either. They'd instantly destroy whatever team that traded for them.

[Buzzkill]

god dAMN

[RP]

Package deal :lol:


Is that packaged wrapped in coats of Anthrax.

[The Outlaw]

LOL

[BCWWF]

Stackhouse was on Quite Frankly tonight. For some reason I always thought he was a thug but he seemed like a pretty good guy on this.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol you thought Stackhouse was a thug? Why?

[BCWWF]

Probably because he played in Detroit

[mrslackalack]

I like Stack but he didnt become the mega-star I thought he would be.

[DrA]

Has anyone seen Steve Nash lately? He looks like he's being sent off to Iraq.

[DaveWadding]

http://mas.scripps.com/DRMN/2006/07/19/071906nash_o.jpg

[Buzzkill]

Well he's less ugly than he was before but that's not saying much

[DrA]

I seem to remember a certain Miami Dolphins running back who shaved off all of his hair and was never the same again.

I hope that Steve Nash does not suffer the same fate.

[SammyG]

I hope he does.

[mrslackalack]

Nash did not have a great career when he had short hair to begin with.

[The Miz]

BREAKING NEWS: SHAWN KEMP ARRESTED FOR MARIJUANA POSSESSION. OMG. HOLY SHIT

[mrslackalack]

Billy King said AI is returning to Philly.

[SammyG]

That's pretty sweet that Amare is gonna be playing for the USA at the World Championships. I'm still dissapointed that Kobe won't be there :(

[Buzzkill]

Blazers just got Jamaal something from Milwaukee for STEVE BLAKE :(

[SammyG]

Farmar should be pretty good this year.

[BCWWF]

YES! Timberwolves resigned Justin Reed!

We made a big signing in Mike James, although my expectations are probably lower than Kevin McHale's, and we may have gotten the rookie of the year in Randy Foye, but probably the most glaring issue wasn't resolved, and that is getting a center. Mark Blount, a jump shooter notoriously bad at rebounding, will not cut it. The worst part is that the division is going to be completely open this year. Seattle and Portland will again be no-good, Utah will be middle of the road and Denver continues to be a time-bomb that can't quite put it together.