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korinkahn
07-09-2006, 04:55 AM
Mr. Kennedy needs to be let go, they fired Christian-who was money midcard or not- and retained a Michael Buffer wannabe. Mr. Kennedy, from what I have seen, has virtually zero in ring ability he should go to ECW and get beat down by Sandman while yelling into a mic.

Skippord
07-09-2006, 05:38 AM
Are you retarded?

Impact!
07-09-2006, 05:54 AM
Why are you even asking Skippord?

Skippord
07-09-2006, 06:00 AM
Just to clarify

Impact!
07-09-2006, 06:28 AM
Oh right, he may not have realised.

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 09:29 AM
I just thought it was rhetorical.

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 10:07 AM
I just thought it was rhetorical.

Not rhetorical just commmentary regarding a poor "superstar"

CharismaInjection
07-09-2006, 10:14 AM
Point 1. They didn't 'FIRE' Christian dumb ass. He quit.

Point 2. You're an idiot.

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 10:16 AM
They didn't 'FIRE' Christian dumb ass.

He quit.
Why he was bank

Ben Rodrigues
07-09-2006, 10:17 AM
Why is he using a senton bomb now as a finisher instead of his senton samoan drop? Not that I'm complaining - his senton is extremely good, rather just curious.

Jaton
07-09-2006, 10:19 AM
Because the latter was too much awesome to be contained in a WWE ring.

Ben Rodrigues
07-09-2006, 10:20 AM
Ahh, should've figured.

Xero
07-09-2006, 10:29 AM
Why he was bank
Because he was the first midcarder to have the balls to say that they were shitting on his character. That's the main reason he quit.

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 10:45 AM
Not rhetorical just commmentary regarding a poor "superstar"

Are you retarded?

Impact!
07-09-2006, 11:45 AM
That might be

owenbrown
07-09-2006, 12:00 PM
Mr. Kennedy needs to be let go, they fired Christian-who was money midcard or not- and retained a Michael Buffer wannabe. Mr. Kennedy, from what I have seen, has virtually zero in ring ability he should go to ECW and get beat down by Sandman while yelling into a mic.

What fucking rock have you been living under?! Mr. Kennedy is outstanding! Anyone that tall and weighs over the cruiserweight limit that can do top rope moves like that are ok in my book. Why he hasn't even gotten a shot at least at the U.S. belt I don't understand.

Point 1. They didn't 'FIRE' Christian dumb ass. He quit.

Point 2. You're an idiot.

Enough said. :y:

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 12:39 PM
Mr Kennedy isn't an excellent talent, but he's a good entertainer at the very least. The bigger mystery is why you've singled out Kennedy as a guy who deserves his release? There are at least half a dozen other guys who should be pushed out the door before we even look at the possibility of Ken Kennedy leaving.

Lux
07-09-2006, 12:40 PM
owenbrown has a point, though his in-ring work could be upgraded a bit he is alright, why fire him, oh and as been pointed out christian QUIT, he wasn't fired bitch

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 12:54 PM
Smackdown is in shambles partly b/c of people like you all in positions of power unable to see he does not deserve a pay check. In regards to the Christian I was wrong. I stand behind my opinion of Mr. K 100% regardless of your name calling. Mr. K is on par/ interchageable with the Miz he could literally be doing the same thing in the audience as the Miz and all of you would hate him for it just like you hate the Miz.

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 01:02 PM
I dont hate the Miz. I nothing the Miz

Xero
07-09-2006, 01:04 PM
Smackdown is in shambles partly b/c of people like you all in positions of power unable to see he does not deserve a pay check.
Two things. One, you think we are in a position of power? Where the fuck did you get that type of retarded idea?

Secondly, I would like to point out that Kennedy was up for a push, but someone in the writing team, or more probably Vince, dropped it because they thought he wasn't getting over, just like they thought Christian wasn't getting over.

Oh, and you comparing any wrestler to The Miz just shows your ignorance.

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 01:10 PM
I dont even think the Miz should be dragged into this. The Miz knows his role in the company and is there for his vocal rather than wrestling abilities. Comparing the Miz to Christian or Kennedy (simply because KK is decent on the mic) is shortsighted.

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 01:10 PM
What fucking rock have you been living under?! Mr. Kennedy is outstanding! Anyone that tall and weighs over the cruiserweight limit that can do top rope moves like that are ok in my book. Why he hasn't even gotten a shot at least at the U.S. belt I don't understand.

I think there are two factors here:

1. Kennedy has just returned from an injury after having very little time in a WWE ring. I think they're holding off.

2. They're clearly intent on Pushing Lashley with the title right now, and I think this is a good bet, as he's a hoss, he's former military (So they can play the gaytarded patriotic crap), and he gets a good reaction.

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 01:12 PM
and he's black.

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 01:12 PM
What?

Afterlife
07-09-2006, 01:32 PM
Besides, putting Kennedy against Lashley poses a drop for either loser; if Lashley loses, his push was meaningless, and if Kennedy loses his 'undefeated streak' would die along with any would-be nearby rematches for said title. Now's just not a good time for that.

JH
07-09-2006, 01:41 PM
Kennedy is one of the best things going on smackdown right now
hell here in roanoke last week at the tapings he got a pop that was edited off the broadcast and i've got no clue why cause the mjority of the people said MISSSSSSSSSSSSTER KENNEDY right along with him

as far as Miz goes since he was brought up
he wrestled here at a house show in january and the guy actually looked good in the ring and i really wish they would let him wrestle instead of be the host of smackdown cause god knows smackdown needs more in ring performers

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 01:43 PM
Smackdown is in shambles partly b/c of people like you all in positions of power unable to see he does not deserve a pay check. In regards to the Christian I was wrong. I stand behind my opinion of Mr. K 100% regardless of your name calling. Mr. K is on par/ interchageable with the Miz he could literally be doing the same thing in the audience as the Miz and all of you would hate him for it just like you hate the Miz.

Hasn't it been made abundantly clear from the boos Cena has gotten while pushed as face, the cheers Christian got while heel, the pushing of people who get NO REACTION that they don't care about what we think? That doesn't put us in any position of power. Then again, you praise Ann Coulter, so I suspect your IQ is slightly lower than your standard barnyard animal.

And if they changed up Kennedy with the Miz, neither would be a good fit. On the sunny side, Kennedy would still suck less than the Miz.

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 01:55 PM
Besides, putting Kennedy against Lashley poses a drop for either loser; if Lashley loses, his push was meaningless, and if Kennedy loses his 'undefeated streak' would die along with any would-be nearby rematches for said title. Now's just not a good time for that.

I doubt they even care about that. Streaks only matter if the company is high on you, and Ken's midcard on the Negro League.

But it is a good point. If maintained, somewhere down the road a match using the winning streak of Kennedy and the awesomeness of Wayne Brady as promotion would be good, but there's no good way to book it currently without fucking up one or both of them.

JohnnyA
07-09-2006, 02:07 PM
Personally I think they should let Kennedy do other things on the mic, like oh, cut a fucking promo? Lost art imo.

Afterlife
07-09-2006, 02:10 PM
I'm actually hoping there's an "Undefeated Feud" at SummerSlam between Jamalga and Kennedy. One of them has to be stopped -- and Jamalga needs to work an actual match. I think the clash of styles and the ego would be amazing. Blus, an introduction battle between Kennedy and Armando has hilarious potential.

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 02:12 PM
Is Samoa Joe still undefeated in TNA?

loopydate
07-09-2006, 02:13 PM
Technically, yes. He lost the X Title twice (once in an Ultimate X match, once in a triple-threat). He's never been pinned or forced to submit. So, he's been in two matches that he didn't win, but he also technically didn't lose.

Personally I think they should let Kennedy do other things on the mic, like oh, cut a fucking promo? Lost art imo.

He did a couple when he was representing "The Network" during his injury. Pretty good, but the crowd didn't know whether to cheer him because he's awesome or boo him because he's technically a heel, so he got a really weird reaction, which may have something to do with why he's back fighting in the midcard.

JohnnyA
07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
I don't know, it just seems like great promos are something that's horribly absent from the WWE these days. (Or even good in-ring mic work. At least, entertaining mic work.) There are some exceptions, of course. I almost hate to say it like a little mark, but damn I miss the Attitude era. (Hell, even give me the old Kurt Angle)

Oh, yeah, post topic. Yeah, let Kennedy do something other than his goddamn Kennedy-echo.

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 02:29 PM
Hasn't it been made abundantly clear from the boos Cena has gotten while pushed as face, the cheers Christian got while heel, the pushing of people who get NO REACTION that they don't care about what we think? That doesn't put us in any position of power. Then again, you praise Ann Coulter, so I suspect your IQ is slightly lower than your standard barnyard animal.

And if they changed up Kennedy with the Miz, neither would be a good fit. On the sunny side, Kennedy would still suck less than the Miz.

1. Was not saying you all were in power just that those in power have the same intellect as the majority in this forum- Hence Smackdown in shambles. you ,like they, don't know showmanship b/c if you did you'd think MK needed to go too.

2. Ann Coulter raised legit ideas but b/c of media sensationalization and people being unable to handle having any disagreeable descourse regarding "The war on Terror" that does not bash Bush- people lke you get angry/rude- and divest the conversion of integrity. Ms. Coulter is truly american speaking and utlizing the freedoms being fought for-9/11 widows have not earned the right to speak on the stage of history in front of the world regarding any issues- let the troops talk. I will not pandner to them or you- they ought be shut up and confined to their side of the aisle b/c when they or anyone else comes over here they will be heard but not embraced simply b/c we pitty them and grieve their loss. Ann is a sharp intellectual mind who did the work to achieve her status. I understand supporting Bush is not the popular thing to do nor is saying that you support the war without qualifying your statement-but you are going to have to deal with it.

3. People who say "I support the troops but not the war" are pure cowards.


4. Miz...Straight garbage Hoorah

Xero
07-09-2006, 02:34 PM
1. Was not saying you all were in power just that those in power have the same intellect as the majority in this forum- Hence Smackdown in shambles. you ,like they, don't know showmanship b/c if you did you'd think MK needed to go too.
No, you see, if that were the case, the cruisers would be getting more air time, Cena would be back to being a "real" thug who isn't toned down, ECW would be booked by Heyman and Tommy Dreamer, Hulk Hogan wouldn't be anywhere near WWE TV, Rey Mysterio would have lost his title months ago, and Kurt Angle would be the WWE champion.

You see, they have the opposite of what we have. They are, in a sense, Vermaat.

Extreme Angle
07-09-2006, 03:27 PM
ok another person to add on to the list of people who've been noob bashed,
1,Vermaat
2,Unleash hell
3,wwefan4life
4,[insert name of noob here]
5,[insert name of noob here]
6,Korinkahn

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 03:45 PM
Technically, yes. He lost the X Title twice (once in an Ultimate X match, once in a triple-threat). He's never been pinned or forced to submit. So, he's been in two matches that he didn't win, but he also technically didn't lose.

Plus, they always played him up as undefeated in Singles competition.

Xero
07-09-2006, 03:47 PM
ok another person to add on to the list of people who've been noob bashed,
1,Vermaat
2,Unleash hell
3,wwefan4life
4,Extreme Angle
5,Nick Mondo
6,Korinkahn

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 03:50 PM
1. Was not saying you all were in power just that those in power have the same intellect as the majority in this forum- Hence Smackdown in shambles. you ,like they, don't know showmanship b/c if you did you'd think MK needed to go too.

2. Ann Coulter raised legit ideas but b/c of media sensationalization and people being unable to handle having any disagreeable descourse regarding "The war on Terror" that does not bash Bush- people lke you get angry/rude- and divest the conversion of integrity. Ms. Coulter is truly american speaking and utlizing the freedoms being fought for-9/11 widows have not earned the right to speak on the stage of history in front of the world regarding any issues- let the troops talk. I will not pandner to them or you- they ought be shut up and confined to their side of the aisle b/c when they or anyone else comes over here they will be heard but not embraced simply b/c we pitty them and grieve their loss. Ann is a sharp intellectual mind who did the work to achieve her status. I understand supporting Bush is not the popular thing to do nor is saying that you support the war without qualifying your statement-but you are going to have to deal with it.

3. People who say "I support the troops but not the war" are pure cowards.


4. Miz...Straight garbage Hoorah

2., 3., you are retarded.

loopydate
07-09-2006, 04:03 PM
Rey Mysterio would have lost his title months ago, and Kurt Angle would be the WWE champion.

Actually, I don't know about that. We were all pretty high on Rey right after Eddie's death and thought that - if they were ever going to push him - that was the time.

The problem was in how WWE handled it. Rey could have won the Rumble with the sympathy push, but he should have been booked completely different going into Mania.

If, rather than relying on divine intervention every week (and getting crushed by hosses in non-title matches), Rey had been booked like he had before Eddie's death, he could have become a credible champion by putting on great matches every week against guys like Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle (who wouldn't have been drafted to ECW if we'd been running things), and the members of King Booker's Court.

Play up the fact that he's an underdog, sure, but don't make that the basis of his character. And, for God's sake, don't have the World Champion lose to The Great Khali and Mark Henry cleanly on consecutive shows!

Of course, if the SmackDown bookers were anything like us, Henry would never have been brought back and Khali would never have been brought up, so it's all a big web of hypotheticals.

Xero
07-09-2006, 04:11 PM
Actually, I don't know about that. We were all pretty high on Rey right after Eddie's death and thought that - if they were ever going to push him - that was the time.

The problem was in how WWE handled it. Rey could have won the Rumble with the sympathy push, but he should have been booked completely different going into Mania.

If, rather than relying on divine intervention every week (and getting crushed by hosses in non-title matches), Rey had been booked like he had before Eddie's death, he could have become a credible champion by putting on great matches every week against guys like Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle (who wouldn't have been drafted to ECW if we'd been running things), and the members of King Booker's Court.

Play up the fact that he's an underdog, sure, but don't make that the basis of his character. And, for God's sake, don't have the World Champion lose to The Great Khali and Mark Henry cleanly on consecutive shows!

Of course, if the SmackDown bookers were anything like us, Henry would never have been brought back and Khali would never have been brought up, so it's all a big web of hypotheticals.
I knew someone would bring that up. I was talking more on after he won it. Let's just pretend someone else handled everything up to that point and we got to handle it after he started to go to shit.

loopydate
07-09-2006, 04:23 PM
Oh, well then yeah. Absolutely. He'd have dropped it at Judgment Day in May.

loopydate
07-09-2006, 04:23 PM
If not on SmackDown beforehand.

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 04:47 PM
People who say "I support the troops but not the war" are pure cowards.


Shut the fuck up you piece of shit.

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 05:16 PM
Shut the fuck up you piece of shit.


Mercy, you all are mighty corwardly, so disrespectful to your superiors.

3. People who say "I support the troops but not the war" are pure cowards.

You prove my point better than my eloquence ever could. Could not have done it without you:heart:

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 05:19 PM
He has proven no cowardice, nor have you demonstrated any superiority to defer to.

Skippord
07-09-2006, 05:25 PM
1. Was not saying you all were in power just that those in power have the same intellect as the majority in this forum- Hence Smackdown in shambles. you ,like they, don't know showmanship b/c if you did you'd think MK needed to go too.



So everyone is wrong but you basically.

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 05:43 PM
So everyone is wrong but you basically.

NOW YOUR UNDERSTANDING! YES!!! GOOD SHOW, YOU CAN TEACH AN OLD DOG NEW TRICKS!:D

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 05:51 PM
FAO Korinkahn

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Afterlife
07-09-2006, 05:52 PM
So....would you care to elaborate on what makes a coward, exactly? Because until you do that, I'm pretty sure your argument just makes you look like a toolbox.

Blitz
07-09-2006, 05:58 PM
Korinkahn, you are one of the stupidest fucking beings I've ever seen.

Chavo Classic
07-09-2006, 05:59 PM
Mercy, you all are mighty corwardly, so disrespectful to your superiors.

3. People who say "I support the troops but not the war" are pure cowards.

You prove my point better than my eloquence ever could. Could not have done it without you:heart:

Allow me to elaborate on my reaction. I chose those particular words not because I'm of lesser intelligence but because of my total outrage towards your claims that supporting our troops and not the cause of the war is cowardly. The only coward here is you sir, who hides behind their internet forum while six British soldiers have been killed this week alone fighting for you, me and everyone in the Western world. You are a vile, disgusting and pathetic waste of human life.

Disturbed316
07-09-2006, 06:00 PM
Scrubs rules.

Afterlife
07-09-2006, 06:11 PM
Allow me to elaborate on my reaction. I chose those particular words not because I'm of lesser intelligence but because of my total outrage towards your claims that supporting our troops and not the cause of the war is cowardly. The only coward here is you sir, who hides behind their internet forum while six British soldiers have been killed this week alone fighting for you, me and everyone in the Western world. You are a vile, disgusting and pathetic waste of human life.


Can I get a "hoo-rah"?

loopydate
07-09-2006, 06:19 PM
How the hell does John C. McGinley not have a room full of Emmys now?

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 06:57 PM
Allow me to elaborate on my reaction. I chose those particular words not because I'm of lesser intelligence but because of my total outrage towards your claims that supporting our troops and not the cause of the war is cowardly. The only coward here is you sir, who hides behind their internet forum while six British soldiers have been killed this week alone fighting for you, me and everyone in the Western world. You are a vile, disgusting and pathetic waste of human life.


Hiding? I am being as transparent as possible, as honest in expression as I can be- hiding! not at all. In the order of the first let me say this the loss of the British mens' lives is tragic while I understand I do not grieve for I do not know them personality. You can not have it both ways, ethier you believe and fortify the resolve of the troops many of whom believe that there is truth in the wars foundation or you spit in their face as you have Chavo repeatedly. Talking out of both sides of your pig-dog mouth believing in the men but not the cause they cling to in their hearts as they fight for the free world is vile. Do you tell a Man he dieing in days or do you allow him to live those final days in bliss unaware of his fate. Do you shoulder the pain or pass it on? This is all about sophistication, respect, nationalism, honour. Think about someone other than yourself and satisfying yourself by runnning your mouth for a moment and act like you respect our country and its leaders if only for appearances...put your massive EGO aside it is scewing up your judgement.:heart:. If you disagree !YES! you are a coward b/c u can't look pass yourself and have an inablity to look at the big picture,

You are so worried about protecting yourself that you can not see you are not worth saving....

If you really cared for the troops you'd sit your worthless body down, shut your mouth and suffer silently with dignity like the soldiers you love so dear.

Mr. Nerfect
07-09-2006, 07:00 PM
You know, the WWE actually sprung to my mind whilst watching a special featurette on my Scrubs Season One DVD the other day. They were speaking about how the writers are on the same floor as the cast, working on things, getting to know their strengths and weaknesses (not many of the later amongst them) and I thought "If the WWE did that, maybe the writers wouldn't be such douchebag fuck-ups when it comes to writing storylines and characters?". Really, one wrestling show needs to come along with the Scrubs approach to professional wrestling. ROH is probably the closest at the moment.

John C. McGinley is the father of my future children, 'nuff said. We're going to gay-adopt, raise our kids, including his current son Max, on an island in the Pacific somewhere, watching Scrubs on DVD and masturbating to Sarah Chalke, occasionally dressing up and doing our own scenes. :y:

And by the way, how does someone determine Mr Kennedy needs to go? He's one of the few working cogs of SmackDown!. He is one of the most popular stars they have. Not only smark-wise, but mark-wise. The WWE should let him cut assholic heel promos, like the ones he alledgedly used to do in OVW. Apparently he can reach extreme levels of assholicness. And the guy does have wrestling talent. Maybe not on the level of some other guys in the WWE, but he's definately a B-Grade wrestler, probably towards the higher end of the B scale. I love the Kenton Bomb just for its name, BTW. :D

They should call him Ken Kennedy, again. Part of the reason his "MISTER" shtick worked was because it was so pretentious. Now his name is officially "Mr Kennedy" and it just doesn't seem as egotistical anymore. He's also cut down his ring entrance (probably to save time). Kennedy is beginning to feel watered down to me.

Have him feud with Matt Hardy, then Vito. By that time, Bobby Lashley should be cleared to drop the United States Championship to Ken Kennedy. Once Champion, then should film Kennedy going to random parts of America (not even recogniseable places, just like convenience stores) and proclaiming to be their Champion, getting on buses for free, not paying taxi fares, taking grocery items without paying, then hurling them at said store. Kennedy as U.S. Champion, thus having self-professed immunity to the law = ratings.

Afterlife
07-09-2006, 07:01 PM
For having typed so much...I don't think you really said anything.

Mr. Nerfect
07-09-2006, 07:05 PM
Hiding? I am being as transparent as possible, as honest in expression as I can be- hiding! not at all. In the order of the first let me say this the loss of the British mens' lives is tragic while I understand I do not grieve for I do not know them personality. You can not have it both ways, ethier you believe and fortify the resolve of the troops many of whom believe that there is truth in the wars foundation or you spit in their face as you have Chavo repeatedly. Talking out of both sides of your pig-dog mouth believing in the men but not the cause they cling to in their hearts as they fight for the free world is vile. Do you tell a Man he dieing in days or do you allow him to live those final days in bliss unaware of his fate. Do you shoulder the pain or pass it on? This is all about sophistication, respect, nationalism, honour. Think about someone other than yourself and satisfying yourself by runnning your mouth for a moment and act like you respect our country and its leaders if only for appearances...put your massive EGO aside it is scewing up your judgement.:heart:. If you disagree !YES! you are a coward b/c u can't look pass yourself and have an inablity to look at the big picture,

You are so worried about protecting yourself that you can not see you are not worth saving....

If you really cared for the troops you'd sit your worthless body down, shut your mouth and suffer silently with dignity like the soldiers you love so dear.

OK, so you totally did not make sense then. We are worthless, yet we are worth saving? We are so worried about ourselves? Why the fuck shouldn't we be worried about ourselves? And how the fuck is it selfish to be worried about lives overseas? You make no sense, and you have just inspired me to ask you two questions which almost contradict each other you are so whimsical in your expression.

What is wrong with saying the war is meaningless, and our troops are better served elsewhere? How is it cowardly to STOP bullying other parts of the weaker world? How is it cowardly to say we appreciate the honour of American troops to their country, but think that their country is abusing it?

You're fucking nuts, man. I wish I had the same tunnel-visioned mind as you. It would help make watching NASCAR fun.

korinkahn
07-09-2006, 07:41 PM
In closing let me say this Chavo you are worthless.

Impact!
07-09-2006, 07:45 PM
and you are way below Chavo, so what would that make you.

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 07:49 PM
So....would you care to elaborate on what makes a coward, exactly? Because until you do that, I'm pretty sure your argument just makes you look like a toolbox.

I'm pretty sure he already looks like one.

Kane Knight
07-09-2006, 07:51 PM
For having typed so much...I don't think you really said anything.

I think that's the point. He's like Heyman. Without the finesse, the intellect, the substance...

Skippord
07-09-2006, 07:55 PM
and you are way below Chavo, so what would that make you.
A supercunt?

Xero
07-09-2006, 08:27 PM
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darkpower
07-10-2006, 07:19 AM
I think that's the point. He's like Heyman. Without the finesse, the intellect, the substance...

So who are we talking about, exactly? Alien or Capt. Jack (look at that fucktard's avatar for the reason I called him that)?

Kane Knight
07-10-2006, 10:52 AM
The Cap'n.

TerranRich
07-10-2006, 10:53 AM
I dont hate the Miz. I nothing the Miz
I sure as hell hate the Miz. I wish he would die. I hope everyday that his torn-apart, bloodied, mangled, putrid corpse is found on the side of a dirty old, abandoned highway by necrophiliac, homosexual, diseased, drunk rednecks.

I cringe everytime I hear him yell, every five minutes, "HOO-RAAAH!!!". Even when the focus should not be on HIMSELF, he yells that overused, pitiful excuse for a catchphrase. No, I don't cringe. I wish that I was born with an incurable disease of the ear that left me deaf (so I couldn't hear him), and I wish that I had suffered a gruesome, painful, and horrendous injury in my youth that resulted in the loss of both eyeballs (so I couldn't see him).

But alas, if I want to watch Smackdown!, I must deal with his random appearances and annoying "promos".







HOOO-RAAAAHH!!! *shoots self*

korinkahn
07-10-2006, 11:31 AM
Listen, I get that all you noobs in this forum suck each other off, I am not going to

The Show Off
07-10-2006, 12:33 PM
Hiding? I am being as transparent as possible, as honest in expression as I can be- hiding! not at all. In the order of the first let me say this the loss of the British mens' lives is tragic while I understand I do not grieve for I do not know them personality. You can not have it both ways, ethier you believe and fortify the resolve of the troops many of whom believe that there is truth in the wars foundation or you spit in their face as you have Chavo repeatedly. Talking out of both sides of your pig-dog mouth believing in the men but not the cause they cling to in their hearts as they fight for the free world is vile. Do you tell a Man he dieing in days or do you allow him to live those final days in bliss unaware of his fate. Do you shoulder the pain or pass it on? This is all about sophistication, respect, nationalism, honour. Think about someone other than yourself and satisfying yourself by runnning your mouth for a moment and act like you respect our country and its leaders if only for appearances...put your massive EGO aside it is scewing up your judgement.:heart:. If you disagree !YES! you are a coward b/c u can't look pass yourself and have an inablity to look at the big picture,

You are so worried about protecting yourself that you can not see you are not worth saving....

If you really cared for the troops you'd sit your worthless body down, shut your mouth and suffer silently with dignity like the soldiers you love so dear.

Just two questions in all seriousness. Do you support the war in Iraq? If you do, why?

Answer in the best fashion you know how.

TerranRich
07-10-2006, 02:20 PM
Listen, I get that all you noobs in this forum suck each other off, I am not going to
Look at the pot calling the LSD psychotropic.

Chavo Classic
07-10-2006, 03:29 PM
In the order of the first let me say this the loss of the British mens' lives is tragic while I understand I do not grieve for I do not know them personality.

By all logic, I did not appreciate the courage of generations past at the nintieth anniversary of the Somme or contemplate life at the one year anniversary of the London terror attacks recently because I did not know those who were killed ? . That's just senseless

You can not have it both ways, ethier you believe and fortify the resolve of the troops many of whom believe that there is truth in the wars foundation or you spit in their face as you have Chavo repeatedly. Talking out of both sides of your pig-dog mouth believing in the men but not the cause they cling to in their hearts as they fight for the free world is vile.

Does a man's death become any more tragic or warrant any more sadness if his intentions while fighting are different from the next man's? Yes, many of our troops believe they are fighting a war against terror but many believe they are fighting because they are told to. Regardless, they are fighting a war and should they die they should still be mourned.

Do I support the war? No. Do I believe that are reasons for war and the way we have gone about war are unjustified and unacceptable? Definately. Leaders like General Haig led many a British man to their death are infamous in British history because of their sheer ignorance and misguided beliefs in the Great War. Should this mean I spit in the face of the soldiers who died en masse at Ypres or the Somme because Haig is almost as despised as his modern day equivalent? No.

Do you tell a Man he dying in days or do you allow him to live those final days in bliss unaware of his fate. Do you shoulder the pain or pass it on? This is all about sophistication, respect, nationalism, honour.

Sorry, that just sounded a bit too emo, even for you.

Think about someone other than yourself and satisfying yourself by runnning your mouth for a moment and act like you respect our country and its leaders if only for appearances...put your massive EGO aside it is scewing up your judgement

You don't know me. Don't pretend you do. I am believer in not letting the left hand know what the right hand does so I won't brag about what I do for a living or spend my spare time doing, but I can guarantee that the things I do make me anything but egotistical or self-centred.

In closing let me say this Chavo you are worthless.

In closing, that was a rubbish closing.

My Final Heaven
07-10-2006, 04:35 PM
So who are we talking about, exactly? Alien or Capt. Jack (look at that fucktard's avatar for the reason I called him that)?
I believe that's Baltor from Skies of Arcadia. Not that I'm getting into this flame war or anything :-\ Though, it seems appropriate that Baltor crashes & burns after about 4 hits in SOA :lol:

Y2Jeremy
07-10-2006, 04:41 PM
Mr Kennedy isn't an excellent talent, but he's a good entertainer at the very least. The bigger mystery is why you've singled out Kennedy as a guy who deserves his release? There are at least half a dozen other guys who should be pushed out the door before we even look at the possibility of Ken Kennedy leaving.

Goodness Yes, you understand

Kane Knight
07-10-2006, 06:37 PM
I believe that's Baltor from Skies of Arcadia. Not that I'm getting into this flame war or anything :-\ Though, it seems appropriate that Baltor crashes & burns after about 4 hits in SOA :lol:

I'm playing that game right now. How could I miss that?

Skippord
07-11-2006, 12:37 AM
Listen, I get that all you noobs in this forum suck each other off, I am not going to
You're going to suck yourself off then?

El Fangel
07-11-2006, 12:49 AM
Ok seriously, while in some peoples opinions such as yours Kennedy may be a joke, etc. Then to the majority or the people, we love Kennedy, for me I really don't understand why, maybe that I love the ....Kennedy thing. Or his moves. I don't know. And also many have told you but because I'm a Christian fan I must say it again, HE QUIT, and one of my happiest wrestling memories was finding out that he had won the TNA title, I had missed the match sadly :(

Also if I was in any position of power, to most people the WWE would become
unrecognizable because mid-carders would be ME-ing , some ME-ers would be jobbers or less. and I would get rid of the annoying crappy angles they have now, to say IMO all of them.

and lastly any wrestling fan who doesn't like Kennedy, all I have to say is


"Tsk Tsk"

Have a Nice Day :)

korinkahn
07-11-2006, 11:17 AM
You're going to suck yourself off then?

Can't bend like that, I could ask your mom however.

Chavo Classic
07-11-2006, 02:50 PM
Jesus Korinkahn, people come here to relax and unwind. I get shit all day from retards like you in the shape of my clients. So shut the fuck up, stop trying to be a witty, tough guy and pull the stick out your arse.

Afterlife
07-11-2006, 04:18 PM
Not to fuel the fire or anything, but I'd like to point out that every logical question posd to his ridiculous theories and accusatinos have gone ignored.

korinkahn
07-11-2006, 06:46 PM
Jesus Korinkahn, people come here to relax and unwind. I get shit all day from retards like you in the shape of my clients. So shut the fuck up, stop trying to be a witty, tough guy and pull the stick out your arse.


You all come at me! I just wanted to be friends! Talk about wrestling was all! Plus what legit questions? all I see is F-Jerk and Noob-I would be happy to explian whatever you want.

Kane Knight
07-11-2006, 07:17 PM
Just two questions in all seriousness. Do you support the war in Iraq? If you do, why?

Answer in the best fashion you know how.

korinkahn
07-11-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by The Show Off
Just two questions in all seriousness. Do you support the war in Iraq? If you do, why?

Answer in the best fashion you know how.

By Popular demand

Yes, in support the war in Iraq.
Terrorism must be defeated, resourses must be seized, civilization must oblierate all lives which stand contrary to the greater good-to American's and America's good-As an American my life takes priority-bottom line.

Kane Knight
07-11-2006, 08:19 PM
:rofl:

Dorkchop
07-11-2006, 09:05 PM
Sounds about right.

Xero
07-11-2006, 09:08 PM
MY VOTES STILL COUNT TO ME DAMMIT!

Kane Knight
07-11-2006, 09:28 PM
THE WAR ON TERROR IS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!

The Show Off
07-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by The Show Off
Just two questions in all seriousness. Do you support the war in Iraq? If you do, why?

Answer in the best fashion you know how.

By Popular demand

Yes, in support the war in Iraq.
Terrorism must be defeated, resourses must be seized, civilization must oblierate all lives which stand contrary to the greater good-to American's and America's good-As an American my life takes priority-bottom line.

Alright, that's certianly a straight foward answer. Forgive me for being just a little curious to your line of thinking but I'd like to ask you another question.

Did you support the war in Iraq back when it started?

Skippord
07-12-2006, 01:13 AM
Yes, in support the war in Iraq.
Terrorism must be defeated, resourses must be seized, civilization must oblierate all lives which stand contrary to the greater good-to American's and America's good-As an American my life takes priority-bottom line.
:|

korinkahn
07-12-2006, 06:35 AM
Alright, that's certianly a straight foward answer. Forgive me for being just a little curious to your line of thinking but I'd like to ask you another question.

Did you support the war in Iraq back when it started?


MY FIRST HOT THREAD! I AM A SUPERSTAR!

Yes I did

Skippord
07-12-2006, 07:20 AM
Yer dum

owenbrown
07-12-2006, 09:17 AM
What the fuck does whether or not you support the war have anything to do with the fact that you think Mr. Kennedy should gone from WWE?! :wtf:

korinkahn
07-12-2006, 09:32 AM
What the fuck does whether or not you support the war have anything to do with the fact that you think Mr. Kennedy should gone from WWE?! :wtf:

It just ended up like this-you could read the thread u punk

Mr. Kennedy= Bitch-ass

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 09:41 AM
Kennedy is a communist.

The Show Off
07-12-2006, 12:00 PM
MY FIRST HOT THREAD! I AM A SUPERSTAR!

Yes I did

Alright well that contridicts you're first point that you support the war because he have to fight terrorism where ever it is. Back when the war first started there were no terrorists in Iraq, the only flocked to Iraq after we invaded. So either you were mistaken and didn't know that (which is understandable because Govener George W. Bush said that there were terrorists there which was a lie) Or their is another reason why you supported the war right off the bat.

I suppose you're real reason then for wanting to go into Iraq was to seize there assets, such as oil, which he have yet to do for any profit to the every man, however to huge profits to Dick Cheany and Halaberten. So you couldn't possibly support seizing of resorses because it serves no benifit to you, which you have said is paramount in your thinking. And believe me I think that you only looking out for yourself isn't selfish, it's honest and I respect your honesty. But honor the fact that you are honest and now tell me the real reason you support and supported the war, when you're orignal reasons sereve no purpose to you.

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 12:25 PM
To be fair, there probably were terrorists. There are probably terrorists in every country in the world, really. And Bush did argue a link between al Qaeda and Saddam. More importantly, he said we didn't have any proof Saddam wasn't behing 9-11 or something like that. It's shitty, halfass logic, but terrorism was one of the given reasons for invading Iraq.

Of course, that's among other reasons: Human rights (He gassed his own people 20 years ago!), Democracy (We'll give it to them whether we want it or not), Personal (He tried to kill mah pappy!), imminent threat (45 minute strikes on the US, something the Koreans had just proven they COULD ACTUALLY DO), etc.

Korniakania or whatever his name is, his reason probably wasn't oil. His reason was probably convenient racism or the more likely one, he believed the lies that were told to bring us there.

(Of course, I seriously doubt this guy's legit. He sounds like a mentally handicapped Heyman--Trying to stir up controversy, only more retarded).

korinkahn
07-12-2006, 01:05 PM
Alright well that contridicts you're first point that you support the war because he have to fight terrorism where ever it is. Back when the war first started there were no terrorists in Iraq, the only flocked to Iraq after we invaded. So either you were mistaken and didn't know that (which is understandable because Govener George W. Bush said that there were terrorists there which was a lie) Or their is another reason why you supported the war right off the bat.

I suppose you're real reason then for wanting to go into Iraq was to seize there assets, such as oil, which he have yet to do for any profit to the every
man, however to huge profits to . So you couldn't possibly support seizing of resorses because it serves no benifit to you, which you have said is paramount in your thinking. And believe me I think that you only looking out for yourself isn't selfish, it's honest and I respect your honesty. But honor the fact that you are honest and now tell me the real reason you support and supported the war, when you're orignal reasons sereve no purpose to you.


Saddam was a terrorist himself as was his regime and was providing safe habour for terrorist . There were WMDs in Iraq approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain mustard or sarin nerve agent. As for Dick Cheany and Halaberten get off the Michael Moore Train.

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 03:08 PM
The only WMDs found were so degraded they were of no threat. The most dangerous thing in Iraq were the DU rounds we left in there when we went in last time. Even Bush admitted he was wrong on the WMDs, son. And Saddam was not a terrorist, he was a dictator.

korinkahn
07-12-2006, 03:54 PM
The only WMDs found were so degraded they were of no threat. The most dangerous thing in Iraq were the DU rounds we left in there when we went in last time. Even Bush admitted he was wrong on the WMDs, son. And Saddam was not a terrorist, he was a dictator.


Not a terrorist, Ask the families of the men destroyed and flung in a big hole if he was a terrorist, ask the women he had gang raped if he was a terroist, son. Moreover, degraded agents could have been used by terrorist when constructing the fabled "Dirty Bomb"

The Show Off
07-12-2006, 04:31 PM
Not a terrorist, Ask the families of the men destroyed and flung in a big hole if he was a terrorist, ask the women he had gang raped if he was a terroist, son. Moreover, degraded agents could have been used by terrorist when constructing the fabled "Dirty Bomb"

Wait I'm confused are you saying Ken Kennedy is a terrorist?

Cause I never heard of anyone Kennedy gang raped...






...raped

Afterlife
07-12-2006, 05:56 PM
Not a terrorist, Ask the families of the men destroyed and flung in a big hole if he was a terrorist, ask the women he had gang raped if he was a terroist, son. Moreover, degraded agents could have been used by terrorist when constructing the fabled "Dirty Bomb"

Let's see...W's tried to argue against evolution. He wants prayer in school. He's tried to ammend the constitution to ban gay marriage. And he sends our men to a foreign country to die in a 4 year conflict that he has yet to actually explain to his own nation.

The only reasoning he he can give to 'his people' is that he runs a 'faith-based administration'. He claims to talk to God. He thinks he is doing God's work, and his country is about ready to revolt.

It's tru, W hasn't gassed his own people. But we do have bombs. And he does send our people to die--just not in our homeland. So you tell me why I should have any more faith in our 'Leader' than I do in Irag's former totalitarian, and we'll go from there.



Oh, and Kennedy rocks.

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 06:36 PM
Not a terrorist, Ask the families of the men destroyed and flung in a big hole if he was a terrorist, ask the women he had gang raped if he was a terroist, son. Moreover, degraded agents could have been used by terrorist when constructing the fabled "Dirty Bomb"

He's not a terrorist. Emotional, tearjerking stories of horrendous acts do not change the definition.

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 06:40 PM
Oh, by the way, those weapons were not usable in any way or form, according to the Department of defense. Are you unpatriotic enough to call them liars?

korinkahn
07-12-2006, 08:19 PM
Let's see...W's tried to argue against evolution. He wants prayer in school. He's tried to ammend the constitution to ban gay marriage. And he sends our men to a foreign country to die in a 4 year conflict that he has yet to actually explain to his own nation.

The only reasoning he he can give to 'his people' is that he runs a 'faith-based administration'. He claims to talk to God. He thinks he is doing God's work, and his country is about ready to revolt.

It's tru, W hasn't gassed his own people. But we do have bombs. And he does send our people to die--just not in our homeland. So you tell me why I should have any more faith in our 'Leader' than I do in Irag's former totalitarian, and we'll go from there.

You seem to simply disagree with Bush's views and the life of faith he lives-that seems to me to be a personal problem. "send our people to die" anti-conserv rhetoric. Bush is looking out for his base-bring issues to the talbe that matter to his admin and supports. I assume you voted against him-if so you lost most Americans don't want gay marriage, most want pray in school. I reason that you argue b/c you are powerless, suck it up and get you punk ass bitch friends in this forum to stop jacking of to internet porn for a hour and vote.

korinkahn
07-12-2006, 08:24 PM
Oh, by the way, those weapons were not usable in any way or form, according to the Department of defense. Are you unpatriotic enough to call them liars?


He's not a terrorist. Emotional, tearjerking stories of horrendous acts do not change the definition.

Defintion..you are the defintion of a coward

Me calling a gov agency lairs does not make me unpatriotic, free speech like flag burning is what makes America grand- If i were unpatriotic for saying the Dep of Def are liars then everyone who says is a Bush liar is unpatriotic too.

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 08:25 PM
So you're saying you know more than the DoD?

Than Bush?

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 08:27 PM
Also, calling me a coward does not change the fact that you're wrong. Saddam is a bad, bad man, but he was not a terrorist.

Too bad we didn't go after a legit threat, like North Korea, or an actual country harboring terrorists, like Pakistan.

Afterlife
07-12-2006, 09:06 PM
You seem to simply disagree with Bush's views and the life of faith he lives-that seems to me to be a personal problem. "send our people to die" anti-conserv rhetoric. Bush is looking out for his base-bring issues to the talbe that matter to his admin and supports. I assume you voted against him-if so you lost most Americans don't want gay marriage, most want pray in school. I reason that you argue b/c you are powerless, suck it up and get you punk ass bitch friends in this forum to stop jacking of to internet porn for a hour and vote.

I do disagree with Bush's personal views and, had I not missed the registration date, you can bet your ass I"d have voted against him. After all, forcing spiritual beliefs on people is wrong, hence, forcing children to pray is wrong. Also, wether ppl "want" gay marriage or not doesn't fucking matter; this is America, Land of the Free, not Land of the Straight. A tru American fights for the freedom of all people. This is another case of W mixing church and state which is the exact opposite of the basis of this country. And yes, I am powerless, but that's b/c the last 2 elections weren't exactly fair.

Oh, and if "sending people to die" is liberal rhetoric, then your talk of WMDs is right-wing bogus malarky.




And Kennedy still rocks.

El Fangel
07-12-2006, 09:16 PM
Actually Both Kennedys Rock

John FitzGerald Kennedy






...Kennedy



BTW I am glad I don't have to put up with Bush, still got that stupid-ass conservative Harper who shakes his kids hands before school and Hugs his cabinet members.

Skippord
07-12-2006, 10:17 PM
Korinkanh where are you from?

Kane Knight
07-12-2006, 10:24 PM
BTW I am glad I don't have to put up with Bush, still got that stupid-ass conservative Harper who shakes his kids hands before school and Hugs his cabinet members.

Bush is the world's problem.

Fortunately, Kennedy could whoop his ass.

Xerzes
07-13-2006, 03:31 AM
John F. Kennedy did rock.

The ladies.

With his penis.

korinkahn
07-13-2006, 08:00 AM
I do disagree with Bush's personal views and, had I not missed the registration date, you can bet your ass I"d have voted against him. After all, forcing spiritual beliefs on people is wrong, hence, forcing children to pray is wrong. Also, wether ppl "want" gay marriage or not doesn't fucking matter; this is America, Land of the Free, not Land of the Straight. A tru American fights for the freedom of all people. This is another case of W mixing church and state which is the exact opposite of the basis of this country. And yes, I am powerless, but that's b/c the last 2 elections weren't exactly fair.

Oh, and if "sending people to die" is liberal rhetoric, then your talk of WMDs is right-wing bogus malarky..

You missed the registration date-frankly you don't even have the right to complain.
He is not forcing beliefs he is delivering the method of government he was elected to deliver. Tha ACLU is forcing politically correct rhetoric on children making it unexceptable to say "Christmas" , focing institutions to conforming to there ideas, complain about them. I contend that gay marriage does matter-the family unit is paramount and without both a father and a mother children are at a disadvantage. Realize that b/c society says smoking weed is acceptable and drinking is accetable and homosexuality is just another sexual preference,.etc does not make it so. Society is sick, rather or not you agree homosexuality wrong, by extension so is endorsing it as a legit lifestyle. The idea of not mixing church and state is not even an American idea. the last two electon not being fair the the electral college to me does seem like a relic but the most recent electon was fine.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 08:35 AM
:lol: Do you even read what you write?

TerranRich
07-13-2006, 09:29 AM
I contend that gay marriage does matter-the family unit is paramount and without both a father and a mother children are at a disadvantage.
Pfft. Give evidence to support your claim, son. 'Cos I'm willing to bet that it doesn't matter what gender they are. The only disadvantage is the teasing they might receive at school. But whose fault is that? Answer: The parents of the children who tease, who teach that homosexuality is something gross and wrong.

Everybody keeps talking about the "sanctity" of marriage being upheld by keeping it strictly man-woman. I think that's just a mask to hide behind, used by people who think gays are "icky" and can't face the fact that it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight? No. No more than you chose to be retarded. You just are.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 09:36 AM
Dude. The guy just said separation of Church and State was Un-American, despite the writings of our own founding fathers, the guys who CREATED America. Do you really feel the need to actually refute someone who's clearly either a total liar or that delusional?

TerranRich
07-13-2006, 09:49 AM
No. I just needed somebody to argue with.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 10:03 AM
Fair enough.

This guy'll be fun to bat around for a while anyways.

Afterlife
07-13-2006, 10:35 AM
Someone should tie this guy to a chair and force him to watch Penn and Teller's Bullshit. He could do with a reality check.

No Miz reference intended.

'Cause this is a Kennedy thread.





And Kennedy rocks more than Miz.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 11:14 AM
Even Penn and Teller's bullshit is often questionable though. It's kind of like refuting Ann Coulter with Michael Moore or vice versa. They may not be accurate, but to refer to the other guy just makes you the pot calling the kettle black.

Their show on Global Warming, for example, seems great until you actually look at the facts, and that they distort some facts for their point. Such as the notion people used to believe in global cooling (Which was not a wideley believed statement, or even remotely so).

Basically, just do your homework, folks.

korinkahn
07-13-2006, 12:20 PM
Pfft. Give evidence to support your claim, son. 'Cos I'm willing to bet that it doesn't matter what gender they are. The only disadvantage is the teasing they might receive at school. But whose fault is that? Answer: The parents of the children who tease, who teach that homosexuality is something gross and wrong.

Everybody keeps talking about the "sanctity" of marriage being upheld by keeping it strictly man-woman. I think that's just a mask to hide behind, used by people who think gays are "icky" and can't face the fact that it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight? No. No more than you chose to be retarded. You just are.

Nature vs Nurture you choose Nature I choose Nurture,

Where does homosexuality come from? Many people may feel that perhaps God made them gay, i.e. that they were born gay. They may honestly not remember any conscious decision to be gay.

Our inheritance of a sin nature is relevant to the discussion of the roots of homosexuality. We are born with a tendency to rebel against God, with hearts that are prone to lust, pride, sexual immorality, idolatry and other evils (Matthew 15:19). So, for example, it is possible to be born with a tendency toward homosexual desires, just as it is possible to be born with a tendency toward pride, or love of money or any other type of sin. Though each of us has weaknesses toward particular sins, God still expects us to resist temptations in those areas and rely on his power for strength to keep sin from ruling us (Genesis 4:7, Romans 6:11-14).

Being the opportunist that he is, Satan tempts each of us according to our particular weaknesses. He is a master at orchestrating events in our lives to tempt us into false conclusions about God and our identity.

An area that seems to be common in the development of homosexual tendencies is dysfunctional relationships. It often starts early in life with unhealthy relationships with parents, siblings and peers, which cause emotional wounds. Here are some example factors in childhood relationships that can be influential in sexual development:
Abuse (sexual, emotional, physical, spiritual)
Parental problems: Absent, detached, uninterested, overbearing or controlling; lack of gender affirmation
Betrayal
Ridicule or teasing from peers
Sex play with same-sex peers
Rejection
Abandonment
Lack of nurture
Loneliness

Another area to consider is generational sin. The Bible mentions the concept of generational curses in several places. The idea is that the consequences of one generation’s sin can be visited on future generations (usually up to the third and fourth generation). Just as we inherit a sin nature from Adam, we also may inherit sin tendencies from our more recent ancestors. It is not uncommon for patterns of sexual dysfunction like homosexuality to run down the family tree. For more information, see our generational sin page.

Other factors that can contribute to homosexual development include societal pressures, pornography, masturbation, demonic influences and an amoral belief system (see Dr. David K. Foster’s Sexual Healing, chapter 6, for a detailed explanation of these factors).

Homosexual tendencies can be fed from these kinds of roots, yet it is still up to the individual to decide whether to yield to the temptations. It usually doesn’t happen over night, but rather over years. As people progress through the teen years, they inevitably will be presented with the powerful feelings associated with their sexual development. This period typically offers prime opportunities for the enemy to persuade a person that he or she “is gay” and that this is a permanent condition. Again, troubles in relationships can be instrumental in a person coming to the wrong conclusions. Some examples include:

Difficulty connecting emotionally with members of the opposite sex
Unpleasant sexual experiences with members of the opposite sex
Trauma connected with sexuality (rape, abortion, incest, etc.)
Feeling sexual attraction to same-sex persons (including arousal by gay or bisexual porn)
Feeling “different” from others
Enjoying homosexual experiences, fantasies or dreams
Involvement with the occult (gives way to spiritual, emotional & sexual confusion)
Words spoken over the person by parents, peers, counselors or teachers
Affirmation, acceptance and recruitment by other homosexuals
When a person decides to embrace the lie of a gay identity, the deception is completed. From then on, it can seem like an unbreakable stronghold, especially if it conveniently explains the pattern of experiences and feelings the person may have had in life to that point. Even so, a person making the conclusion that they are gay will discover an endless desire for peace and approval, but will not find it (Isaiah 48:22). They will need to surround themselves with others who continually reaffirm their homosexuality in order to numb their conscience about the lies they have embraced. They may even seek God’s approval of their choices by embracing “gay theology”.

TerranRich
07-13-2006, 01:29 PM
Okay, I stopped listening the second you quoted the Bible.

My girlfriend's brother is quite gay. I spoke to him. I doubt you can claim that you have actually spoken to a homosexual in person and find out for youself what goes through their head. Don't read studies. Talk to them.

I asked him, straight-out, if he chose to be gay, if it was a conscious decision. He looked at me like I was an idiot and told me that he never chose to be gay. He basically asked me, What kind of person would CHOOSE to take the risk of alienating his family, would CHOOSE to disappoint so many people in his life, and would CHOOSE such a thing as grand-scale as sexual orientation.

After a lengthy talk, I came away knowing so much more. Nothing traumatic happened in his life. He was never abused. Nothing happened to "make" him gay. He just discovered, over time, that he liked men sexually and romantically.

As for your argument that gay porn "makes" people gay, as well as masturbation and "demonic influences" and an "amoral" belief system (all of which SCREAM of religious thought): you're quite wrong. Here's why:

* I've seen a gay porn video once or twice in my day, mostly out of curiousity, sometimes by accident. It didn't make me gay. I'm quite straight.

* As a side note, I used to "experiment" sexually when I was like 10 or 12 with a male friend. Neither of us are gay as a result.

* I masturbate. Frequently. Sometimes too much. I'm not gay.

* I have no fucking clue what "demonic influences" are, but I watch porn frequently, have several fetishes (lactation, female ejaculation, some water sports now and then), and I listen to heavy metal and alternative rock. Nope, still not gay.

* I am an atheist. I do not believe in God. I've had thoughts about killing people, but have never done so. I used to abuse animals when I was younger. Nope, still straight.

* Societal pressures? If you mean guys are pressured to be gay, that's way off. If you mean guys are pressured to be straight, then that would mean that ALL guys are gay, because ALL guys are pressured to be straight.

My conclusion? You're a nut job. There are TWO people that nullify your claims both ways. I've been subjected to all the crap you listed and am quite straight. My g/f's brother is gay but was never abused, molested, picked on, or even bothered in the slightest.

The Bible this, the Bible that. Find another way to argue your point.

The Show Off
07-13-2006, 02:02 PM
As a guy that wrote a 25 page thesis on homosexual litrature, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt the homosexuality is something that is encoded in your DNA, no one ever chooses to be gay. The fact that you would even suggest such an obviously false statment is an insult to people Matthew Shepherd who died because of ignorant pricks like you that want to usggest something is wrong with someone because of there sexual orientation.

You and anyone who does believe that homosexuals shouldn't have the right to marry are as ignorant as people who believe that marrying somone outside your race or social structure is "of the devil." How about you quit twisting around the words of the bible to fit your own needs and actually meet someone who is gay. I'm sure you never have meet a homosexual, because you're lack of compassion for there plight is something that will prove to be the downfall of conservitives.

I'm a spiritual person, and I know how now-a-days it's increasing the number of people that are athiests out and the lack of faith in the world is because of assclowns like who who make believing in God seem as absurd as believeing in Voodoo.

I pray that you see the error of your "opinions" because I'm almost certian you did not develop them on your own, you just heard what jackasses like O'Reily, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and various church groups have said and just agreed like the stupid lemming you are.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 02:02 PM
Why the fuck would people "choose" to be gay, anyway? It seems a bit retarded to choose to be hated, to have to sneak around, and of course, it seems retarded to claim you get to choose who you fall in love with. Because really, how many of us choose who we fall in love with? Well, Korinkahn's parents, but only because the strip turned pink and pappy had a shotgun.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 02:07 PM
As a guy that wrote a 25 page thesis on homosexual litrature, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt the homosexuality is something that is encoded in your DNA, no one ever chooses to be gay. The fact that you would even suggest such an obviously false statment is an insult to people Matthew Shepherd who died because of ignorant pricks like you that want to usggest something is wrong with someone because of there sexual orientation.

You and anyone who does believe that homosexuals shouldn't have the right to marry are as ignorant as people who believe that marrying somone outside your race or social structure is "of the devil." How about you quit twisting around the words of the bible to fit your own needs and actually meet someone who is gay. I'm sure you never have meet a homosexual, because you're lack of compassion for there plight is something that will prove to be the downfall of conservitives.

I'm a spiritual person, and I know how now-a-days it's increasing the number of people that are athiests out and the lack of faith in the world is because of assclowns like who who make believing in God seem as absurd as believeing in Voodoo.

I pray that you see the error of your "opinions" because I'm almost certian you did not develop them on your own, you just heard what jackasses like O'Reily, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and various church groups have said and just agreed like the stupid lemming you are.

Considering he's citing the whole "War on Christmas" Bullshit (The ACLU is trying to ban Christmas! WAAAAAH), I'd say you're bang-on here.

Basically, he chooses to ignore Science and study and selectively quote Biblical passages in hopes of twisting them into something tangible. In other words, ignoring real, tangible evidence to twist the word of God.

But it also isn't his fault. Christianity more and more now, praises the stupid and breeds ignorance as a result.

Lux
07-13-2006, 02:08 PM
Ok after Terranrich and The Show Off's posts if i were what ever his name is i sure as hell wouldn't bother posting anything more

The Show Off
07-13-2006, 02:38 PM
Ok after Terranrich and The Show Off's posts if i were what ever his name is i sure as hell wouldn't bother posting anything more

You've just assured that he will post again.

Besides which I don't think the guy is retardad or anything, he just misguided and stubborn.

TerranRich
07-13-2006, 03:50 PM
Thank you KK for mirroring my thoughts that no person in their right mind would choose to risk alienation of their family, and everything that comes along with it. When a person comes out of the closet, he's not making a decision to bang dudes, he's making a decision to tell everyone of his sexual orientation, "breaking the news", so to speak.

It's called reasoning and logic, what I just did up there. I've noticed a trend: most (not all) religious fanatics lack reasoning and lack and have an overabudance of "lemmingness" (the tendency to following whatever is most comfortable for them to believe) and stubbornness.

korinkahn
07-13-2006, 04:39 PM
it is just another side of an argument believe what you want- all i said was kennedy was stupid i stand by that

oh yes, this thread is on fire baby!

Lux
07-13-2006, 04:43 PM
Funny, the thread might be on fire but you aren't

Lux
07-13-2006, 05:01 PM
Take your time in replying, oh and the bible won't help you in every instence

korinkahn
07-13-2006, 05:14 PM
As a guy that wrote a 25 page thesis on homosexual litrature, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt the homosexuality is something that is encoded in your DNA, no one ever chooses to be gay. The fact that you would even suggest such an obviously false statment is an insult to people Matthew Shepherd who died because of ignorant pricks like you that want to usggest something is wrong with someone because of there sexual orientation.

You and anyone who does believe that homosexuals shouldn't have the right to marry are as ignorant as people who believe that marrying somone outside your race or social structure is "of the devil." How about you quit twisting around the words of the bible to fit your own needs and actually meet someone who is gay. I'm sure you never have meet a homosexual, because you're lack of compassion for there plight is something that will prove to be the downfall of conservitives.

I'm a spiritual person, and I know how now-a-days it's increasing the number of people that are athiests out and the lack of faith in the world is because of assclowns like who who make believing in God seem as absurd as believeing in Voodoo.

I pray that you see the error of your "opinions" because I'm almost certian you did not develop them on your own, you just heard what jackasses like O'Reily, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and various church groups have said and just agreed like the stupid lemming you are.


the article I post was from here

http://www.porn-free.org/
again I was just presenting a counter-argument however I would be interested in reading the information-if any- regarding sexuality begining DNA encoded. As pour talking to gay men I went to fashion design school in Miami Florida and work as a men's bespoke suitmaker apprentice. I have talked to gay men, mostly they say they just like men over women, but they are always looking for some form of vindication-my observation. I actually think think gay couples deserve to be able to take care of their mates. Gay people aren't inhuman, heatlh care should be universal no one should have to marry to obtain insurance and frankly I have seen gay porn and think it is rather beautiful-but thats just me. I simply don't think O'Reily, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and various church groups are not without their points. they should be considered thoughfully as should your views. Pink is my favorite colour too.

lactation, wow.

Fire Baby, HOT FIRE!

Xero
07-13-2006, 05:51 PM
So wait, was everything you have said a personal opinion of your's or were you just debating for the sake of debating, just passing it off as your own?

Afterlife
07-13-2006, 06:05 PM
It's looking to me like his arguments are changing at every turn, and it's probably because he can't really rebuttle against Universal Truth.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 06:07 PM
Thank you KK for mirroring my thoughts that no person in their right mind would choose to risk alienation of their family, and everything that comes along with it. When a person comes out of the closet, he's not making a decision to bang dudes, he's making a decision to tell everyone of his sexual orientation, "breaking the news", so to speak.

It's called reasoning and logic, what I just did up there. I've noticed a trend: most (not all) religious fanatics lack reasoning and lack and have an overabudance of "lemmingness" (the tendency to following whatever is most comfortable for them to believe) and stubbornness.

It's Occam's razor, really. The answer with the least extraneous steps is probably the best. Calling gay a choice or a lifestyle brings up too many things that need explanations, too many extra steps to justify. Suddenly you have an overarcing conspiracy, because it's the only way you can make sense of gay marriage and the interest in "choosing" a path neither condoned nor accepted in society. It makes considerably less sense when one considers the implications of such a "lifestyle" choice.

Further, to indicate such a thing is to ignore the evidence from the animal kingdom, and even to ignore scientific indications. Back in the 90s, they actually manipulated the genes of fruit flies to make the males mate with males. Fruit Flies, of course, being easier to manipulate than humans. And more ethical.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 06:21 PM
So wait, was everything you have said a personal opinion of your's or were you just debating for the sake of debating, just passing it off as your own?

Yeah, I love how suddnely he wasn't being retarded, he was just plagiarising something he didn't agree with!

korinkahn
07-13-2006, 06:37 PM
So wait, was everything you have said a personal opinion of your's or were you just debating for the sake of debating, just passing it off as your own?

Mostly everything about homosexuality/gay marriage I got from the site
http://www.porn-free.org/homosexual_roots.htm
You really thought I wrote all of the Bible verses! I do not know the Bible that well.
I wanted to hear what everyone had to say I am genurally interested in your points of view. Regarding "Universal Truth" I don't know about that.
American Psychological Association says
Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?

No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.
People should not be disrespected for being who they are or for their opinons about Mr. Kennedy and
Personal opinion
I am not against gay marriage or for gay marriage, I just don't care. What you want to do is you, but parades are to much. However I do care about the numerous persons without heatlh care, poverty, crime, war and Saturday Night Main Event coming on the same time Smackdown does b/c of baseball on Friday unless SNME starts at 10:00. Frankly I am a bit torn i respect the Bible and its take on managing life. I simply want to live as I choose love what I love and hate what I hate. I do not cuss I do not think people who do are bad or dirty I just have choosen not to in my life-I extend that to everyone of you.

Xero
07-13-2006, 06:43 PM
LOL, you are such a bullshitter. You were clearly trying to pass all that was said off as your own. You got into a tight spot and came up with your only way out: Admitting that you were bullshitting and then throwing a story covering your real reason onto it.

Disturbed316
07-13-2006, 06:44 PM
Wow, a number of people in this thread needs to shut the fuck up.

Disturbed316
07-13-2006, 06:45 PM
......KENNEDY!

Skippord
07-13-2006, 07:11 PM
Nature vs Nurture you choose Nature I choose Nurture,

Where does homosexuality come from? Many people may feel that perhaps God made them gay, i.e. that they were born gay. They may honestly not remember any conscious decision to be gay.

Our inheritance of a sin nature is relevant to the discussion of the roots of homosexuality. We are born with a tendency to rebel against God, with hearts that are prone to lust, pride, sexual immorality, idolatry and other evils (Matthew 15:19). So, for example, it is possible to be born with a tendency toward homosexual desires, just as it is possible to be born with a tendency toward pride, or love of money or any other type of sin. Though each of us has weaknesses toward particular sins, God still expects us to resist temptations in those areas and rely on his power for strength to keep sin from ruling us (Genesis 4:7, Romans 6:11-14).

Being the opportunist that he is, Satan tempts each of us according to our particular weaknesses. He is a master at orchestrating events in our lives to tempt us into false conclusions about God and our identity.

An area that seems to be common in the development of homosexual tendencies is dysfunctional relationships. It often starts early in life with unhealthy relationships with parents, siblings and peers, which cause emotional wounds. Here are some example factors in childhood relationships that can be influential in sexual development:
Abuse (sexual, emotional, physical, spiritual)
Parental problems: Absent, detached, uninterested, overbearing or controlling; lack of gender affirmation
Betrayal
Ridicule or teasing from peers
Sex play with same-sex peers
Rejection
Abandonment
Lack of nurture
Loneliness

Another area to consider is generational sin. The Bible mentions the concept of generational curses in several places. The idea is that the consequences of one generation’s sin can be visited on future generations (usually up to the third and fourth generation). Just as we inherit a sin nature from Adam, we also may inherit sin tendencies from our more recent ancestors. It is not uncommon for patterns of sexual dysfunction like homosexuality to run down the family tree. For more information, see our generational sin page.

Other factors that can contribute to homosexual development include societal pressures, pornography, masturbation, demonic influences and an amoral belief system (see Dr. David K. Foster’s Sexual Healing, chapter 6, for a detailed explanation of these factors).

Homosexual tendencies can be fed from these kinds of roots, yet it is still up to the individual to decide whether to yield to the temptations. It usually doesn’t happen over night, but rather over years. As people progress through the teen years, they inevitably will be presented with the powerful feelings associated with their sexual development. This period typically offers prime opportunities for the enemy to persuade a person that he or she “is gay” and that this is a permanent condition. Again, troubles in relationships can be instrumental in a person coming to the wrong conclusions. Some examples include:

Difficulty connecting emotionally with members of the opposite sex
Unpleasant sexual experiences with members of the opposite sex
Trauma connected with sexuality (rape, abortion, incest, etc.)
Feeling sexual attraction to same-sex persons (including arousal by gay or bisexual porn)
Feeling “different” from others
Enjoying homosexual experiences, fantasies or dreams
Involvement with the occult (gives way to spiritual, emotional & sexual confusion)
Words spoken over the person by parents, peers, counselors or teachers
Affirmation, acceptance and recruitment by other homosexuals
When a person decides to embrace the lie of a gay identity, the deception is completed. From then on, it can seem like an unbreakable stronghold, especially if it conveniently explains the pattern of experiences and feelings the person may have had in life to that point. Even so, a person making the conclusion that they are gay will discover an endless desire for peace and approval, but will not find it (Isaiah 48:22). They will need to surround themselves with others who continually reaffirm their homosexuality in order to numb their conscience about the lies they have embraced. They may even seek God’s approval of their choices by embracing “gay theology”.


HOLY SHIT YOU ARE A PSYCHOPATH

El Fangel
07-13-2006, 07:46 PM
What happened to people discussing Kennedy like the thread named implys.

If anyone comes in here and looks at only the last 3 pages, they will be like, what the f***.

Maybe we should get back to you know.








...Kennedy

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 07:52 PM
You're not from around here, are you?

El Fangel
07-13-2006, 07:59 PM
Just where is "here"

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 08:03 PM
Der Interweb.

Seriously, unless you have incredibly strict moderation, it's unlikely for any topic to stay on topic on the web.

korinkahn
07-13-2006, 08:03 PM
LOL, you are such a bullshitter. You were clearly trying to pass all that was said off as your own. You got into a tight spot and came up with your only way out: Admitting that you were bullshitting and then throwing a story covering your real reason onto it.


Ahhh..right..You caught me:shifty:


Skippord, MAKE THIS YOUR BIBLE
http://www.porn-free.org/homosexual_roots.htm

KENNEDY SUCKS!

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 08:05 PM
I have homosexual roots under my heterosexual perm.

El Fangel
07-13-2006, 08:07 PM
Nope, Kane Knight. Im not actually from around here. I Have never owned a home computer, plan to buy one soon though. and this is the first actual forum I joined and post regularly in. I had no idea that this type of off-topic threads are made regularly.

So you sort of hit the nail with my head there.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 08:11 PM
Now yo know.

AND KNOWING'S HALF THE BATTLE!

Also, Kill Whitey.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 08:23 PM
On the topic of Kennedy, why is it there are no lyrics sites that can get the theme song right? I keep noticing they keep saying "I turn up the trouble." Is it that hard to figure out?

There are other mistakes, but I can't rightly remember most of the rest of the song anyway.

El Fangel
07-13-2006, 08:26 PM
Well thanks for the info, now I won't be so surprised when a thread changes content completely such as this one.

Also the same thing happened with my buddy and Rob Conways theme he downloaded 10-12 of them and none were right.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 08:57 PM
You mean the actual theme? That's weird. I was just talking about lyrics sites.

And Conway's theme was easy to hear. I mean, no crowd reaction should make it easy to hear.

Xero
07-13-2006, 09:21 PM
And Conway's theme was easy to hear. I mean, no crowd reaction should make it easy to hear.
That's why they put subliminal messages in Gangrel's theme.

Seriously, listen to it backwards. The opening is clearly "Hairy Balls".

Skippord
07-13-2006, 09:25 PM
Ahhh..right..You caught me:shifty:


Skippord, MAKE THIS YOUR BIBLE
http://www.porn-free.org/homosexual_roots.htm

KENNEDY SUCKS!
Do do I click it?

Xero
07-13-2006, 09:27 PM
Do do I click it?
I didn't, but I bet it has something to do with Darwin making out with Satan.

Dorkchop
07-13-2006, 09:28 PM
Der Interweb.

Seriously, unless you have incredibly strict moderation, it's unlikely for any topic to stay on topic on the web.

Like that time I had Subway for lunch this afternoon. I normally don't eat cookies (I eat pretty healthy), but I decided to get some today. My only tiny complaint is that there weren't enough chocolate chunks in them. But overall they were good, fresh, and soft. MMM mmmm.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 09:30 PM
I didn't, but I bet it has something to do with Darwin making out with Satan.

That'd grossly improve his logic...

Schoenauer
07-13-2006, 09:37 PM
WWE firing Ken Kennedy would be absolutely UNACCEPTABLE!!!

El Fangel
07-13-2006, 09:44 PM
Yeah, we downloaded like 10-12 versions there were from what I can tell 4 different variations and none sounded right, even to me, and i rarely pay attention to that stuff.

Lux
07-13-2006, 09:52 PM
Do do I click it?
Did anyone click it? after reading his arguments i sure as hell don't want to

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 10:06 PM
WWE firing Ken Kennedy would be absolutely UNACCEPTABLE!!!

Misterrrrrrrrrrrr...Kennedy is MAKE IT or BREAK IT for WWE.

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 10:08 PM
...WWE...

Schoenauer
07-13-2006, 10:12 PM
Did anyone click it? after reading his arguments i sure as hell don't want to
You don't need to read it, he just posted the entire website, word for word.

Lux
07-13-2006, 10:19 PM
Not reading the website, i ment reading his posts

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 10:20 PM
Not reading the website, i ment reading his posts

I think that's what he means too.

korinkahn
07-13-2006, 10:20 PM
And so ends this torrid tale

Lux
07-13-2006, 10:21 PM
stfu

Kane Knight
07-13-2006, 11:23 PM
And so ends this torrid tale

Too bad you have not ended yet.

Afterlife
07-14-2006, 01:06 AM
This thread is so calm now. Like...like the evil is gone. :)

korinkahn
07-14-2006, 07:55 AM
I have created the most viewed thread in 5 in years...You think you know me

Skippord
07-14-2006, 09:00 AM
Seriously where are you from?

Skippord
07-14-2006, 09:03 AM
Actually this is one of the most viewed threads http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38923&highlight=Nick+Mondo+Responds+TPWW

Kane Knight
07-14-2006, 09:14 AM
I have created the most viewed thread in 5 in years...You think you know me

Sorry, not even close, Edge.

Pinnacle Charisma
07-14-2006, 09:55 AM
Actually this is one of the most viewed threads http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38923&highlight=Nick+Mondo+Responds+TPWW


Lol good times

korinkahn
07-14-2006, 10:17 AM
Seriously where are you from?

Milwaukee, Wisconsin- lived in Columbia, Missouri, Lexington Park ,Maryland and Miami, Florida

TerranRich
07-14-2006, 01:40 PM
No...seriously...like what PLANET I think he meant.

Dorkchop
07-14-2006, 01:46 PM
No...seriously...like what PLANET I think he meant.

Planet Stasiak.

Lux
07-14-2006, 01:56 PM
Milwaukee, Wisconsin- lived in Columbia, Missouri, Lexington Park ,Maryland and Miami, Florida
Great a life history, does it have a resting place :shifty:

TerranRich
07-14-2006, 03:14 PM
Stasiak made his return to RAW on April 15th, 2002 under his new gimmick Planet Stasiak. He claimed that he was from Planet Stasiak, and he heard voices, talked to himself with rhymes and basically acted insane.
LMAO. Poor guy, I remember all that.

Stasiak then retired to become a chiropractor. He is currently attending Parker College of Chiropractic in Dallas, TX and will receive his doctorate in chiropractic in August 2006.
Stasiak: Is there something wrong with your back? Would you like to come to Planet Stasiak? I'm a great chiroprack! I can give your spine a good whack! And you're good as new, just like that!

Skippord
07-14-2006, 05:04 PM
No...seriously...like what PLANET I think he meant.
I had a theory he lived in Alabama